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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by KaptainAfrika: 8:32am On Jan 14, 2017 |
Did you read what I wrote? "JUST WAR" is defensive in nature. It is not offensive in nature, that is, you don't attack first, but in response to an attack, you defend yourself. The purpose of this defensive action, is to stop an attack, with the result that the attack is stopped. Research World War 2 and see if what's happening in Southern Kaduna isn't similar, not in the number of casualties but in the context of potential genocide. I hope you will defend your family, if they are attacked, I really hope you do. It is never okay to kill anyone, because you didn't give them life in the first place. But what will you do, if you are being attacked, or if your family is being attacked? Ubenedictus: |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Nobody: 8:40am On Jan 14, 2017 |
snapscore: OK
No. Farmers illegally used the ranches for farming.
Why do you farm in my ranches? Farmers oppressed herdsmen by farming in their ranches also. It's not a 1 side oppression.
Nobody said they are right. Infact they should be punish. 2 wrong don't make right. But we should never forget Farmers used herdsmen land to farm.
Do you also speak on farming on grazing reserves established during (I think) military regimes ?
I still insist ranches is the root of the problem. It's an issue of realizing right from wrong. Samething goes to farmers they couldn't realize it's wrong to farm on grazing reserves. If we say the ranches is the root problem, then we can say the root problem of crimes committed by the poor is the lack appropriate jobs or income. Lack of good job is the root of the problem. Provide job & majority of the crimes will drastically reduce But this not the case because there are other factors that contribute as well. One of them is morality. I agree but nobody is born with violence. There must be a reason for it. And 90% of it is not morality. Let me give a real life example. I think about three days ago there was a news about a man who knowingly lured a woman to her death for 10k. Can we then say that the government should first provide people with jobs and then watch for who would break the law? No. Why? Because he's not the only person who doesn't have enough and what he did is wrong and unacceptable anywhere in the world. Regardless how poor a person is, it is not justifiable to take another soul just to earn money. Ok We can agree that the ranches are not enough but how about going about it the right way? We don't agree on this. We agree fermers illegally used up herdsmen ranches to cultivate.
How can they allow them to graze on crops? Crops you said. Then what's the essence of farming. Herdsmen will pays tax to government on feeding their livestock on reserves. Why do farmers oppress rearers by using their ranches also? Can't they ask government for more land to farm ?
They know it's wrong. They also believe it's wrong to use their ranches. If the ranches are insufficient, there are appropriate ways of dealing with it and oppressing people isn't one of them. It's not the matter of sufficiency but illegal usage of ranches by farmers and the government keeps mute
I think the aboves can answer this one. 1 Like |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:00am On Jan 14, 2017 |
vislabraye:My own is to write, understanding my point is your responsibility, and I shall not be held responsible if you don't. Oyedepo spoke carnally, his words are apostasy, and Paul said if anyone, even amongst the apostles come to preach another doctrine he should be cast out. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:04am On Jan 14, 2017 |
MichaelUweh:Which fire from which god? fire from god Oyedepo? Uncle, I am from waiting for the fire o 1 Like |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by aalangel(f): 9:15am On Jan 14, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista: Mtchewwww... 1 Like |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Topgainer: 9:58am On Jan 14, 2017 |
The story of lord Oyedepo, his god and his version of Christianity. We've not heard the last of his unchristlike rants and his Canaan Emirate. TonyeBarcanista:No mind the people who have been indoctrinated into Oyedepo's version of Christianity. They have this belief that Oyedepo is so powerful that he could literally spit curses, threats, fire and brimstones. It is simple let Oyedepo be the first to draw the sword against Fulani Militia being that his curses and "do you know who I am" is not working. Unfortunately, he moves around with armed escorts and has a team of Senior Advocates that could help his course but his followers that he's inciting OYO. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:04am On Jan 14, 2017 |
Topgainer:The same man wey open the gate of hell for APC yet them win election. All these apostates |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by MNDY(m): 10:10am On Jan 14, 2017 |
thesicilian: Leave am! If I sight any of those i.diots charge at me to kill me, I should watch him remove my head or strike me! I swear to God, Oyedepo is not pissed the way I am at what has been happening to my fellow Christian brethren! On my own, if any i.diot among them come at me, if I no murd' am sharp-sharp, make God punish me! Rubbish! 2 Likes |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by vislabraye(m): 11:11am On Jan 14, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista: You're quoting scriptures out of context..... . Maybe you should tell us what you would do to address the crisis in Kaduna. If fir instance Israel had not stood up to fight, would there be any land called Israel ? |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:28am On Jan 14, 2017 |
vislabraye:Your Oyedepo is even ashamed of the statement. he has started preaching peace, you are here spilling badderash “If there has been anything done, it has been prayer for peace and unity of Nigeria"- Oyedepo |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by saintmark88(m): 1:49pm On Jan 14, 2017 |
vislabraye: Stop this madness, first of all there alot of muslims tht live n southern kaduna, u will prolly have more muslims than xtains n d southern kaduna, secondly the fact tht they shout Allah hakbah doesn't mean it's just xtains tht r been killed, what is wrong with u?? Doesn't Boko Haram and other radical extremist terrorist chant the same Allah Akbar tin wen dey kill n d North East, dnt they kill their fellow muslims n d name of Allah too?? Dnt b stvpid |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by saintmark88(m): 1:50pm On Jan 14, 2017 |
jusRadical: So lemme guess u r against Islam?? |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by vislabraye(m): 1:54pm On Jan 14, 2017 |
saintmark88:. Stop your mumuness. Well, I don't blame you. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by snowblaq(f): 2:52pm On Jan 14, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista:.......he has said wat he has to say...if u have any problem with it...meet him personally and stop ranting online..... 3 Likes |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Nobody: 9:38pm On Jan 14, 2017 |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Nobody: 9:47pm On Jan 14, 2017 |
saintmark88: I DO NOT HATE muslims. I love them and wish that they will come to the knowledge of the truth and take hold of the salvation offered freely by Christ Jesus, who died for the forgiveness of our sin and our redemption from the law of sin and death. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by fromnigeria(m): 10:36pm On Jan 14, 2017 |
Things need to happen for us tp knpw who is who. For me, i knew real christians are not much on this country. and Oyedepo might be asking for forgiveness for falling into this temptation, else... #Christians Oyeah!!!! The real persecution of the last days never show be this o. When it comes, alot and a lot will deny their faith. May Elshaddai help us all believers. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by saintmark88(m): 3:29am On Jan 15, 2017 |
jusRadical: No wonder, I give up on u |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Nobody: 12:00pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
saintmark88: You see? Hate una (muslims), problem: love una, trouble. Na wa ooooooooo. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Nobody: 12:00pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
saintmark88: You see? Hate una, problem: love una trouble. Na wa ooooooooo. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by saintmark88(m): 12:16pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
jusRadical: Any wise person would see that from my moniker, I'm not a muslim |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Nobody: 12:26pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
saintmark88: Monikers do not show ones faith. I have a muslim neighbour that bears the namr Favour. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by saintmark88(m): 12:31pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
jusRadical: Wel just so u know, am a Christian and am Catholic |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Nobody: 12:43pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
saintmark88: Now I know. Catholics prefet muslims to other christians especially, the born agains. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by bezimo(m): 2:35pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
I thought that this Tonye or whatever his name was a reasonable and rational person, now I know he is actually the opposite.I am embarrassed that I followed such a mess with a grossly archaic and daft perspective. What a mess!!! So christians can be killed willfully without attacking back.You are free to donate yourself to them. How does Isreal, the nation whom God liveth, stay in charge in the middle east? Those Islamic nations surrounding Israel know the consequence of trying to fight Isreal, so they behave themselves. Touch an Israeli, Fire would fall, you don't know that in your deep seated ignorance. If those Isreali behave like you are proposing, the nation of Israel would have since been wiped out, yet you are here yarning gross garbage. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by bezimo(m): 2:39pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
yaki84: The guy is a big shame, I was grossly mistaken on the extent of his rationality. He is perhaps one of the ignorant men parading this platform.Does he know the genocide going on in Southern Kaduna by this normadic sons of Ishmeal? |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by jojotemitopaz(m): 7:34am On Jan 16, 2017 |
At wat cost...they perpertually live in constant fear all theor lives...always watching their backs. If you get the war u want...then u would know how foolish it was to be manililated by some selfish profit making warmongers bezimo: |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by saintmark88(m): 8:20am On Jan 16, 2017 |
jusRadical: So Catholics are not born again??, well hope u saw in d news that Boko Haram just bombed a mosque n d university of maiduguri, a mosque not a church, so how do u xplain this, since u tend to understand their demands so well |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by bezimo(m): 8:30am On Jan 16, 2017 |
jojotemitopaz: You mean at what cost? First ask yourself What is the price for been the victim:Monumental proportion, massive genocide, destruction and death. What is the cost of attacking back and reprisal: Destruction of the Islamic fulani idiots which would reduce the attacks, off course casualties are inevitable but it won't be in such large scale. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Image123(m): 10:07am On Jan 16, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista:This is a lie, stop mixing propaganda with commonsense. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Image123(m): 10:33am On Jan 16, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista: i really don't think Oyedepo is ashamed of his statement. It's a question of context and timing. Oyedepo didn't tell people to go around killing boko haram members, it's a self defense thing. You can be sure other pastors like Kumuyi, Adeboye, the pope and even your pastor practice it even if they don't say it. They all have security in place and would not watch helplessly if attacked. Christ is not against self defense against criminal elements and senseless terrorists. If you can't defend, you run. There's nothing holy about being killed for nothing. |
Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by jojotemitopaz(m): 11:19am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Those whk would start the war would be the ones to dialogue it out to an end when lots of inmocent lives would have been lost...war mongers promote violence for thier gains, they are the safest and would ultimately be the winner if we dont curb these excesses from its root cause bezimo: |
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