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Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Marvel1206: 5:20pm On Jan 21, 2017
dragonking3:
If chaos is the only language they understand, then we will give it to them. . He has to encourage people because Christians are too relaxed and afraid.
As for me i don't like the idea. It should simply be, they attack, you defend yourselves. And not attacking innocent people
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Iceman2017(m): 5:21pm On Jan 21, 2017
Mynd44:
This is really sad coming from a supposed religious leader. It is sad coming from any human being.

So people should kill any herdder whether innocent or not?

In the words of Tupac "I am one black man; I cannot be held responsible for the actions of every black man"

I wonder when we as human beings will stop living via hatred and revenge and learn to express our anger instead of acting like that thing we are trying to fight
Go to hell you jihadist! Nobody is monopoly of violence.
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by LoveJesus87(m): 5:23pm On Jan 21, 2017
Lightening:


This is because the only appropriate reaction to the assault of those on Christians is violent slaughter of the Fulani's. Feeding them their own pills raw. We are no longer going to pray. God's silence means that he long expected us to start taking decisive actions. That's the way forward.
Very Intelligent
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by dragonking3: 5:23pm On Jan 21, 2017
Marvel1206:

As for me i don't like the idea. It should simply be, they attack, you defend yourselves. And not attacking innocent people
Well it is a good idea because now they know that people are no longer smiling.

Are you not aware that El rufai paid the Fulani herdsmen not to attack instead of arresting them? Meaning El rufai knows the culprits so why are they not brought to book. Bro, time to wake up

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Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by omemero(m): 5:24pm On Jan 21, 2017
FOR THOSE OF YOU CALLING GOVERNMENT TO DO SOMETHING, WHEN THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING ABOUT THE OTHER KILLINGS AROUND THE COUNTRY. EXCEPT FOR THE MILITARY KILLING ARM LESS PROTESTERS, YOU BETTER WAKE UP FROM YOUR DAY DREAMING....AND START WORKING ON A SELF DEFENCE STRATEGY....BEFORE THIS BLOOD SUCKERS GETS TO YOUR LOCATION.....

THIS ATTACKS ARE WELL COORDINATED AND SPONSORED....
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Bizibi(m): 5:24pm On Jan 21, 2017
Marvel1206:

I agree with you. All i'm saying is, this Apostle is encouraging unprovoked attacks which is totally uncalled for. Yes, i know there are unprovoked attacks against christains but, two wrongs don't make a right. That is Chaos! You get me?
abeg forget all this talk.......the govt is helpless and the alternative is self defense. The number of souls taken away so far is enough to speak out,enough is enough
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by dragonking3: 5:25pm On Jan 21, 2017
ndcide:


TonyeBarcanista is not a Christian. Never ever forget that.

Ditto to others.
Is he a Muslim?
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Marvel1206: 5:26pm On Jan 21, 2017
dragonking3:
Well it is a good idea because now they know that people are no longer smiling.

Are you not aware that El rufai paid the Fulani herdsmen not to attack instead of arresting them? Meaning El rufai knows the culprits so why are they not brought to book. Bro, time to wake up
Err. We all know the government is kind of lacklustre concerning the matter tho. We can't afford a civil war right now anyway
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by dddrexjr(m): 5:27pm On Jan 21, 2017
maasoap:

Which premises? because I don't understand.
Church premises
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Marvel1206: 5:27pm On Jan 21, 2017
Bizibi:
abeg forget all this talk.......the govt is helpless and the alternative is self defense. The number of souls taken away so far is enough to speak out,enough is enough
You unconciously agreed with me tho. My post encourages self-defense but not unprovoked attacks
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by omemero(m): 5:28pm On Jan 21, 2017
PLEASE READ THESE RESEARCH REPORT CAREFULLY.....

~Professor Charles Adisa
Startling research findings on Fulani herdsmen
Must read

The Result of the Research about Fulani herdsmen.
"FULANI HERDSMEN KILLINGS; MODUS OPERANDI, THOSE INVOLVED, AND THE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.

The most significant problem that African nations face is lack of leadership. Normally, Leadership should be an intentional conscious effort to attend to the people’s needs and aspirations. But in Africa, even though many of those that are thrust into the position of leadership mean well, they lack the capacity to lead and meet the people/s hopes and aspirations. Apart from lack of adequate preparation for leadership, one other notable factor that had inhibited good leadership among African leaders is the seemingly non-existent structures for research and information management in the society. Hence, many well-meaning leaders often do not have the requisite information needed for a thorough appraisal and resolution of problems as they arise.

A clear example is the recent terrorist attack in Enugu State of Nigeria and the obvious ignorance of the State Leadership on the modus operandi of the Fulani Herdsmen which led to poor leadership decisions. For a long time, the Nigerian state has been under siege by Fulani herdsmen terrorists operating under a predictable pattern of reconnaissance, attack and withdrawal, leading to many deaths and social dislocations. Since January 2016, there has been documented deaths of approximately 1000 Nigerians from across the middle belt, the South-south, and Southeastern parts of the country from these coordinated Fulani herdsmen attacks. The Fulani herdsmen are credited with destabilizing the city of Jos, a once tourist destination; and their history of mayhem extend beyond the borders of the Nigerian state. They are also the major actors/catalyst to recent conflicts in the Central African Republic. Armed with adequate information about these murderous group, one would have expected the Governors in the Southeastern states, especially those whose citizens were murdered in cold blood by these terrorists to come out with a strong condemnation of the Fulani herdsmen carnage and unify towards a common cause solution. On the contrary, events in the past weeks only showed confused state executives, who do not even understand the magnitude of the problem at hand.

In fairness to these Governors, some of them mostly followed the normal state security protocol in responding to this abnormality, Hence, the failure to protect the citizens was the liability of the Federal Government of Nigeria and its armed forces. Though we do not excuse the shabby response of these Governors to the Fulani Herdsmen tragedy, we are inclined to give them a slack because to solve a problem, one needs to first understand the problem. The Governors did not understand the problem. Most Nigerians and international bodies do not understand the Fulani herdsmen problem and we at CACLD did not initially. We therefore dispatched a fact finding team to the Southeastern part of the country to unravel the intricacies and complexities of the Fulani terrorist group; a group rated as the fourth most dangerous by respected international conflict organizations (According to the Global Terrorism Index 2015 report; "Fulani militants" killed 1,229 people in 2014 -- up from 63 in 2013, Making them the "fourth most deadly terrorist group"wink.

Our fact finding team visited “Ama Hausa and Garki” camps in both Enugu and Abia States. They also interviewed neighbors from the local communities living within and around the Hausa communities in both states. Both the Northerners and the local community were very open and volunteered valuable information to our team. There seems to be a willingness and eagerness for the violence to end. Below, we will present our findings in numbered points.

1. The Fulani herdsmen terrorists are Fulanis but mostly non-Nigerians: This may come as a surprise to most of us. About ten percent of the terrorists are Nigerians and they live within the Hausa Fulani communities in Ama-Hausa and Garki’s in the South East and South-south regions.

2. The Fulani Herdsmen terrorists do not own cattle: This is another revelation that may come as a surprise to many. Fulani herdsmen killers’ major job description is just to kill. They do not own any cattle. Most of them are employed by the cattle owners as “security men” whose job is strictly to protect the cattle. They do not however follow the cattle around, but move in separate vehicles along a defined route within the states where cattle are being reared.

3. The Ama-Hausas and Garkis harbor 80% of the Fulani herdsmen killers. This is a very important revelation. The Garkis are mostly Hausas and other minorities from the north, but within them, they Fulani herdsmen killers reside. The northerners were able to show us these Fulani herdsmen “security personnel” and they were dressed differently from the normal Northern Nigerians within these settlements. They were young, less religious, most of them use drugs, and consume alcohol. A majority of these herdsmen terrorists are migrants from Chad, Niger, and other Fulani enclaves outside the Nigerian state. A small percentage of these Fulani youths are Nigerians born in the states where they reside. They are the ones vested with the responsibility of leading these Fulanis on their regular rampage; serving as compasses to the blood-hungry terrorists.

4. The Fulani herdsmen that accompany cattle from the North to the South per season do not own cattle. This is another surprise coming out from the investigation. The cattle are owned by more prominent Fulani leaders in the country. Most Nigerian Fulanis are no longer migratory herdsmen, but are either Emirs, Sultans, heads of parastatals, oil barons, Imams, Christian Pastors, Governors, Federal Reps, and Senators. However, they still maintain their cultural ownership of cattle. These wealthy Nigerians increase their wealth astronomically through cattle rearing by using their not well off brothers from outside Nigeria to rear these cattle. Instead of investing in ranches and buying of grasses from the South, they chose the cheaper alternative of having their kinsmen, imported from outside the country, take these cattle from the north to south seasonally; using the entire Nigerian space as their “grass kingdom”. These cattle, in turn, destroy farms in their path, rendering farmers economically bankrupt to further enrich the wealthy Fulani “remote herders”.

For clarity sake, let us present the breakdown of Fulani people in Nigeria as we deduced from our investigation.
There are about 5 million Fulani people in Nigeria making them one of the smallest ethnic group in the country.
Out of the 5 million Fulani people, only about 3 million of them are Nigerians. The remaining 2 million come from outside the country and are first generation immigrants.

About 60 percent of the Fulanis in Nigeria are governors, Pastors, Imams, Emirs, Sultan, House of Rep members, Importers, Exporters, Ministers, Oil well owners, lecturers, Vice Chancellors, Ministers, and Senators etc. In a nutshell, the Fulani control all sectors of the northern economy. These rich Fulani’s own all the cattle being reared in Nigeria.
The remaining 40 percent of Fulanis come from outside the country. These are the poor and peasant Fulanis. These immigrant Fulani’s are mostly in charge of the cattle owned by the Bourgeois Fulani. Because the Fulani’s have the highest income per capita in the Nigerian state (Fulani’s who are Nigerians), they constantly need to import their poor brothers and sisters from outside the country to increase their population (the Fulani’s always either marry into rich families or they would marry only Fulani to maintain their pure race) and to help with menial jobs.

In Garki and Ama-Hausa settlements all over the country, there exist a few Nigerian Fulanis (some are born in these states) who coordinate the cattle business. These Fulanis either help manage family cattle or are just contracted middlemen in charge of the business on behalf of various millionaire cattle owners. They themselves are also millionaires. Under these middlemen are about a group of 20 to 40 Fulani boys within the ages of 20 and 35. These are the unofficial Fulani herdsmen security team whose job is to protect the Fulani herdsmen cattle.
Lastly, there is a group of Fulani herdsmen who rear the cattle from the north to the south. These are at the bottom of the Fulani Herdsmen ladder. Some of them do not even know how to speak English and are so poor that they are paid just a little amount of money for their job. These herdsmen do not carry guns. They only carry arrows and machetes to help them navigate the bushes on their way down to the South.

6. Fulani Herdsmen Attack.
We learned from the surrounding communities and from some of the Hausa elders about what constitutes a Fulani herdsmen attack. According to information we received, when there is a disagreement between host communities, or between herdsmen and farmers, the Fulani herdsmen who accompany the cattle will locate the nearest Fulani settlement and if there is none, they will locate the nearest Garki or Ama Hausa. When they arrive, they will narrate their story. The Fulani (Nigerian middlemen) cattle managers will notify their top Fulani Herdsmen which in this case, include governors (like El Rufai) and other top Fulani Bourgeois who own the cattle. A decision will be made about whether there should be an attack or not on the said village or host community. If an attack is sanctioned, then modalities will be mapped out and a date will be chosen for the attack. Most times, Fulani herdsmen in the military and police are notified and everyone sends a representative. Neighboring settlements sends out representatives and arms cache are opened and arms are distributed to the participants. The major participants are the 20 to 40 Fulani herdsmen who reside in the Garkis and Ama Hausas. These are the Fulani warriors whose job is to kill.

During an attack, every Fulani person in the area knows there will be an attack and all will contribute to make sure it goes on successfully. Fulanis in the higher levels of the military will ensure all commands under them stand down, and the top Fulani police officers will do the same. The road is then clear for the Fulani herdsmen to carry their attacks.

7. Solution
Many of those who interacted with us suggested solutions that are very interesting. Most of the northern Hausas and the local communities suggested a ban on grazing in the affected states. A total ban would be the only way to solve this problem. Some argued that with the Fulani’s nature of encroaching on other people’s land and territories, any attempt to give them land would aggravate the problem and not solve it.

Most villagers from Abia State suggested that these cattle be penned in the north while government releases money for people in the South to cut grasses, process the grass, and send to the north. This is the practice all over the world. They indicated that any attempt to take their lands and give to the Fulani would definitely result to a civil war.

We agree, the solution is very simple; ban grazing, establish ranches for the cattle in the north, pay the southerners to harvest grass and send to the north. With this, everyone would be pleased with the outcome. This solution is expected to generate 1 million jobs in the South and about 500,000 jobs in the North. Also Fulani herdsmen terror will be totally eliminated.

Conclusion
Next time when we talk about a herdsmen attack, we must understand that the attack was not carried out by the herdsmen you see escorting cattle on the roads and bushes. These attacks are well coordinated and sometimes involves the approval of senators and influential men in Abuja. Even our president Mohammed Buhari has a herd of cattle and hence is a Fulani herdsman, corroborating the information we received from respondents on ground. Fulani herdsmen attacks involves all Fulani ethnic members in Nigeria. Most times, these attacks happen only because “respectable men” sanction them.

Issued by the News Team of Chinua Achebe Center for Leadership and Development

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Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by dragonking3: 5:31pm On Jan 21, 2017
Marvel1206:

Err. We all know the government is kind of lacklustre concerning the matter tho. We can't afford a civil war right now anyway
So what has Christians done to warrant such evil attacks from the fulanis? Let them tell us now or expect that war that they want.
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by blazer234: 5:32pm On Jan 21, 2017
Mynd44:
This is really sad coming from a supposed religious leader. It is sad coming from any human being.

So people should kill any herdder whether innocent or not?

In the words of Tupac "I am one black man; I cannot be held responsible for the actions of every black man"

I wonder when we as human beings will stop living via hatred and revenge and learn to express our anger instead of acting like that thing we are trying to fight

Mr Robust Speaker, what then do you think we should do?
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Bizibi(m): 5:34pm On Jan 21, 2017
Marvel1206:

You unconciously agreed with me tho. My post encourages self-defense but not unprovoked attacks
he is not encouraging unprovoke attack on anybody,all what he said is related to self defense.

Over 200 or 400 people in one region in a state,they have to stand and wake up.
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Yujin(m): 5:34pm On Jan 21, 2017
maasoap:

And for how many months will such community or village spend with one eye closed and one opened ,day and night? Better don't start a war that you can't finish or win.
Malo, you can't threaten anyone. Fulani settlement are scattered and well known. It only takes the assembly of men who have been victim's of their previous attacks to spray bullets on any living thing there which you is easy to do. Soon your cups will be full. The fulanis greatest tool is manipulation. They are good at it but it only works on those who don't know them well.

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Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by focus7: 5:34pm On Jan 21, 2017
pafestula:
Nigerian gave those fools upper hands in each state, whereas they don't deserve to be treated as human, maybe this is going to be a clarion call to the coward fellow Nigerians.

Anyone that want to condemn him should view this thread as a case study.

https://www.nairaland.com/3546254/killing-southern-kaduna-people-fulani
make the first move and kill the Fulanis to prove your point.
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Marvel1206: 5:37pm On Jan 21, 2017
dragonking3:
So what has Christians done to warrant such evil attacks from the fulanis? Let them tell us now or expect that war that they want.
Superiority complex dey worry dem. There are limited things we can do in their land.. We just have to make sure we balance the equation here. (Not by senseless killings tho) i actually like what Gov. Fayose is doing in Ekiti, the other states need to take a cue from him
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Marvel1206: 5:39pm On Jan 21, 2017
Bizibi:
he is not encouraging unprovoke attack on anybody,all what he said is related to self defense.

Over 200 or 400 people in one region in a state,they have to stand and wake up.
"If you see any Fulani herdsman, kill him and cut off his head"
If the literal meaning is anything to go by, he is encouraging it.
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by fortunechy(m): 5:39pm On Jan 21, 2017
kingdom of GOD suffereth voilent n only voilent pple taketh it by force
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by dragonking3: 5:41pm On Jan 21, 2017
Marvel1206:

Superiority complex dey worry dem. There are limited things we can do in their land.. We just have to make sure we balance the equation here. (Not by senseless killings tho) i actually like what Gov. Fayose is doing in Ekiti, the other states need to take a cue from him
Fayose armed his people with guns and ammunitions to kill and eat their cow which is no different from what suleman is saying here.. The only language they understand is violence that's why they respected themselves in ekiti. Do you know that there is a place now in Oyo state were the people now speak Fulani? The time to wake up is now

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Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Marvel1206: 5:46pm On Jan 21, 2017
dragonking3:
Fayose armed his people with guns and ammunitions to kill and eat their cow which is no different from what suleman is saying here.. The only language they understand is violence that's why they respected themselves in ekiti. Do you know that there is a place now in Oyo state were the people now speak Fulani? The time to wake up is now


Hmm bro! There's a huge difference! Kill and eat their cows if they ransack your farmlands right?

The bolded is funny grin
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by cstr55: 5:46pm On Jan 21, 2017
[quote author=murtalaa post=53007742][/quote]
What is more hateful than state funded security forces killing innocent protesters in cold blood?.
Nigeria is a jungle. There is no rule of engagement.
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by palsenator(m): 5:47pm On Jan 21, 2017
Marvel1206:
This coming from a 'Man of God'

He's stupid for that statement.. This will lead to chaos if followed
Am sure your relative isn't part of the CHAOS that happened in southern Kaduna... That's why u can talk like this or maybe u are a staunch Islamist.
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Bizibi(m): 5:49pm On Jan 21, 2017
Marvel1206:

"If you see any Fulani herdsman, kill him and cut off his head"
If the literal meaning is anything to go by, he is encouraging it.
did u watch the video?
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by hamzeiy: 5:50pm On Jan 21, 2017
hmmmm...people seem not to be asking the right questions.. what was the root cause of the crises in southern kaduna.. the root cause was the fact that innoccent muslims where killed across that axis of the state during the last political unrest in the state some few years ago while in northern part houses of pdp members of which are 98% muslims in kaduna where burnt including that of the emir of zaria..in southern kaduna the retaliated by killing muslims (on an issue that basically had noting to do with religion and no xtain was killed then)...unfortunately unliike the general muslim population who easily let things go by in this case fulani men where mostly the victims of the crisis.. that been said you cant kill a fulani man and expect to be in peace..they would definately retaliate. and as you keep killing them they keep coming for retaliation even if it takes 20 yrs a fulani man would have his vengance. but this a case of the real victims of the crises been called criminals. just two days ago after the curfew has been relaxed they tried to kill other muslim neighbours..but you wont here this on the news..until the muslims retaliate..that would suddenly become the breaking news of the year..that been said.."any southern kaduna christain that kills any muslim we would kill 10 for every one and noting would stop us" we wont let zango khataf or yelwa shandam to repeat it self we are done with thr media hypocrisy and we wont let them affect us..anyone who dosnt know the cosequence of killing our people should go to berom in jos and ask them.
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by phemmie06(m): 5:51pm On Jan 21, 2017
Mynd44:
This is really sad coming from a supposed religious leader. It is sad coming from any human being.

So people should kill any herdder whether innocent or not?

In the words of Tupac "I am one black man; I cannot be held responsible for the actions of every black man"

I wonder when we as human beings will stop living via hatred and revenge and learn to express our anger instead of acting like that thing we are trying to fight
What has the government do to it, the Imams and Co or they're not of God they're of the devil
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Marvel1206: 5:55pm On Jan 21, 2017
Bizibi:
did u watch the video?
No sorry, i have more things to do with my data

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Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by dragonking3: 5:57pm On Jan 21, 2017
Marvel1206:



Hmm bro! There's a huge difference! Kill and eat their cows if they ransack your farmlands right?

The bolded is funny grin
It is the same thing.. He said if they come near this premises, kill them.
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Nobody: 5:59pm On Jan 21, 2017
How long shall they kill the christians,why we stand beside and look.......
It's time for the church to rise against these downpressors.
The day these terrorists in guise of fulani herdsmen know that there will be multiple reprisals for every innocent soul they send to d great beyond, they will mellow.
Kudos Sulaiman n Oyedepo the rest are concerned about their pocket
Re: Any Fulani Herdsman You See , Kill Him, Cut His Head - Apostle Suleiman by Marvel1206: 6:00pm On Jan 21, 2017
dragonking3:
It is the same thing.. He said if they come near this premises, kill them.
Ok then. Thanks for sharing your views without insults

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