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Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by OlujobaSamuel: 9:00am On Jan 23, 2017 |
op, i see you as someone with zeal and knowledge, but lacking in wisdom and understanding. as beautiful as the topic is, you already have a subjective mindset, so no point engaging you as it's of no benefit to you nor fellow readers. |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Noneroone(m): 9:41am On Jan 23, 2017 |
Funnicator:dont be ridiculous. Jonathan's era was democratic and he wouldn't annul it himself only jega could. If jega had annuled the election during the orubebe saga, and jonathan handed over to an interim govt like IBB, nothing could have been done about it. If you are not pronounced winner in an election even when preliminary results point towards your victory, nothing for you. |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 9:43am On Jan 23, 2017 |
Noneroone: So annuling and getting away with it only goes for military governments Issokay |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 9:45am On Jan 23, 2017 |
OlujobaSamuel: Please don't mind the character oozing from my posts. Comment objectively anyway. Thanks. |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 9:55am On Jan 23, 2017 |
Corrinthians:Igbos are not in hurry to see the NA dead bodies coz somedays it wil com Many of you were hapy that the NA are killin us, months later the killed they shites som of they shites members were hapy seein Ipob memenbers dead bodies now its the turn of the IDP soon it might reach u 1 Like |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by saintmark88(m): 10:03am On Jan 23, 2017 |
Fifthcolumnist: Y r u like this, u dnt involve in an convo to win but to sometimes educate urself.... Aboila was declared winner by delectoral chairman although he was clearly D winner on paper, but ibb annulled the election bfre d winner was annoyed by the chairman. Adama barrow on d other hand was announced and decleared as the winner by their electoral chairman, that my friend is the first difference, secondly jammeh had conceded defeat only for him to turn 360 and say he doesn't believe in d same election that he conducted... |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by OlujobaSamuel: 10:19am On Jan 23, 2017 |
Funnicator:i see everything in the world as a game of asserting power, from animals to plants to humans, each trying to subdue that which it has power over, if nigeria should have a gambia issue again today, no org can send foot soldiers into our nation, as it costs a lot, except they are to use air strike, the worst is using nigerians to attack nigerians, how many ecowas nation can face us to challenge us? none except life don tire dem, we have so many rebels already in the name of militants, from fulani herdsmen, to niger delta to biafra movements to opc to islamic fundamentalist, all those listed are armed in one way or the pther, so they can be used depending on who is on seat. a report today said our own tinubu jet dey carry gambia jammie go exile, na d same jet dey carry guinea president, who wan question us, we run ecowas for now, with the situation of things, its not changing in the nearest future. on au sending armed unit here, which country amongst our neighbours wan take us? from lagos to ghana 8hrs, from lagos to akwa ibom 10hrs, also consider our population, etc. on the issue of ibb n mko, the result wasnt declared, the NEC, Nwosu no announce even though the winner was obvious as everyone could see it all, ibb did something very illegal using the law to legalize it by using a court to stop the election, so many devils dey our nation, no one wants to underestimate any, including external forces. i just hope our sai baba no sit tight when time reach(although i dont see him sitting tight), we go just kill ourselves tire as no nation go send us military aide, na only talk we go dey hear for radio, they will only come after the civil disorder to settle us, reposition us and take our resources that might be booming by then. |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Noneroone(m): 10:20am On Jan 23, 2017 |
Funnicator:the question is partly on who annulled but the major question is at what stage was it annulled. A dictator could annul election an election at an early stage an still mange to hold on amids pressure but not after a winner had legitimately emmerged from such election. Abiola was not declared winner that is why he is refered to as the 'acclaimed' winner. If Nwosu managed to declare him winner, IBB couldnt have done anything. At most UK through UN resolution would oust shonekan if ECOWAS was reluctant to do so. |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 11:07am On Jan 23, 2017 |
saintmark88: I'm not arguing to win bro. My point is both case scenarios (although technically different) were both condemnable as they both serve to ensure power remained with the incumbent(IBB didn't look ready to relinquish power) Or are u going to say what IBB was cool? would it happen in a sane society? abeg make una forget joor. no get time for argument too 1 Like |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by saintmark88(m): 11:21am On Jan 23, 2017 |
Fifthcolumnist: Atleast ur objective enough to agree tht there r technical differences, no one is saying what ibb did was bad but the matter of contention is y didn't Ecowas act den.... The technical difference u have just admitted to is d reason Ecowas didn't act I presume...moreover then dissemination of info wasn't like what we have today, with d rise of internet, social media and all.... |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 11:27am On Jan 23, 2017 |
OlujobaSamuel: That's a wonderful post. Thanks. Though it sounds scary. It seems as though we are doomed with no external aid to always help us, that's why the biafran war caused so much damage and why nothing much would be done if any president decides to sit tight. |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 11:31am On Jan 23, 2017 |
saintmark88: Hmmm. Even it were worse than Jammeh's case, I don't see ECOWAS deploying fighter jet squadrons to our borders or reading invasion troops. They'll probably impose sanctions and give ultimatums that would be ignored. Also, Nigeria has been arguably the bone of ECOMOG operations in the last two decades. Without Nigeria, ECOWAS would would have a shaky voice; and against us their resolve would be drowned. Only Western Pressure can really intimidate a Nigeria leader....I could be wrong sha |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by saintmark88(m): 11:46am On Jan 23, 2017 |
Fifthcolumnist: You are not far from the truth, a nation like Nigeria with its population and size would require a stronger army.... Dnt forget tht f UN, AU, EU and other countries backed D Ecowas military unit to go into Gambia.... Same woukd happen in our case, all they need is stronger force... Probably UN troops will have to be deployed too. |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 11:52am On Jan 23, 2017 |
saintmark88: And then there is the risk of leaving the country weaker and more insecure after the invasion; a haven for more conflict like Libya, for instance. I hope it never gets to that level. |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by ismart: 11:59am On Jan 23, 2017 |
khadaffi:I know you are a Yoruba and you should be ashamed of yourself. I was a baby when that election took place and my mother was in the opposing party (NRC) against Abiolas (SDP). It was visible to the blind and audible to the deaf that Abiola won that election. The news was all over the whole place so what are you talking about here? In our street then if I could remember, Abiola WON on clean slate. I really don't know why most of you Yorubas are like this. Why? |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 2:10pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
ismart: Abiola would be rolling on his grave. |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by khadaffi(m): 2:18pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
ismart: Nwosu conducted the 12 June 1993 election, which was seen as the freest and fairest election to date, in which Chief Moshood Abiola was presumed to have won. Nwosu's commission introduced the novel Option A4 voting system and the Open ballot system. Nwosu had released many of the election results when he was ordered to stop further announcement by the military regime. In 2008 he published a book in which he claimed that Babangida was not to blame for annulling the election. The book was severely criticized for failing to accurately account for what happened.… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Nwosu One Coward Professor Called Humphrey Nwosu By Ndiameeh Babrik It took him 15 long agonizing years for him to claim to release the result of the June12 1993 election. But he left us the apostles of June 12 more traumatized and severely annoyed. Not only did he try to distort facts but with impunity knowing that his master as at then and now will still pay him any way.…… www.gamji.com/article8000/NEWS8054.htm Meanwhile go back and read Humphrey Nwosu's book - Laying the foundation for Nigeria's democracy: my account of June 12, 1993 presidential election[2008]. He was the electoral chairman then. The man who had the power to have declared MKO the president and return him elected but refused because he was scared of IBB |
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by khadaffi(m): 2:36pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
ismart: A former chief judge of the Federal High Court, Abuja, Justice Dahiru Saleh (retd.), who tied the last judicial knot before the annulment of the June 12, 1993, presidential election has absolved former President Ibrahim Babangida of culpability over the issue. Saleh, while taking responsibility for the annulment, also faulted the failure of Chief Moshood Abiola, the acclaimed winner of the election, to appeal his decision. Justice Saleh had in June 1993 ordered the then National Electoral Commission, NEC, to stop further release of the results of the election upon the claim that the election itself should not have been conducted in the first place. He had cited the mid-night ruling on June 11, 1993, by Justice Bassey Ikpeme that the election should not hold. The Prof. Humphrey Nwosu-led NEC had upon the provisions of Decree 13 of 1993 which ousted the courts from derailing the transition programme, gone ahead to conduct the election on June 12 which turned out to be one of the best organised elections in the history of the country. Speaking toThe Interview,a magazine publication, the former jurist fully absolved Babangida of any role in the issue, even as he expressed no regrets over the ruling which led to a five-year impasse in the march towards democracy. Besides, several lives were lost in the agitation for the manifestation of the mandate. However,Vanguard recalls that Babangida in his address to the nation cancelling the June 12 election had noted the failure of the judiciary, which he said behaved less than satisfactorily and alleged the use of money in the election as he said as much as N2.1 billion was expended by the two presidential candidates, Chief Moshood Abiola and Alhaji Bashir Tofa. Babangida also alleged that the election............ www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/blame-not-babangida-june-12-annulment-ex-chief-judge/ Meanwhile sorry to disappoint you, I am neither a yoruba, Igbo or an hausa person. But you are free to assume I belong to anyone of them |
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