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Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by mangood74: 12:26pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
Dats Why Biafrans Call Nigeria A Zoological Republic Of Nizooria |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by Abagworo(m): 12:27pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
Soldiers are there to protect them and yet the ungrateful people went ahead to kill a soldier. The best thing is to leave them with their militia to fight unending war with invisible herdsmen. That way they would beg the soldiers to come back. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by EDSONSMITH(m): 12:29pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
what if they know nothing about the dead Soldier and d wounded ones?? This Ortom of a man na another One Chance for ma State o |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by Nobody: 12:31pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
UltraLeslie: Absolutely not. You are an idealist and there is nothing wrong with that. But changing anything requires us to see as it is and not as it should be. Military doctrine is reprisal based but I never said it was correct. The reality which you are avoiding is that for many armies loyalty is not to the constitution but first to superior orders and next their comrades at arms. The twist in Africa is that in situations like this ( and again we are addressing reality) soldiers see hostile civilians as " enemy combatants" and the host village as " the enemy support system" Once soldiers are switched on they will kill. Once they are in theatre, chemicals and hormones create people who will kill. It takes takes strong commanding officer to restrain them. This is true for Israel, for America or for the UK. For those who have never experienced state sanctioned violence they may see soldiers as change over switches that go from peaceful to violent. This is not true. Once deployed to the place where death has occurred ( especially to one of them), they totally change. Educating soldiers and changing this mindset involves long term psychology and changes to training. In the meantime, we must prevent deaths deaths by addressing today's realities. My post recognized Ortoms attempt to deal with this reality. You can be sure Ortom made several calls to different people but it is this call that can be made public. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by flowe247(f): 1:07pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
this incident just made me remember this punch lines......" soldier go soldier come, any soldier go, when e go return u go know say an shut down.....I laugh at that community in Swahili.... |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by billyG(m): 1:13pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
I lack adjective to insult dis useless guvnor,he gav agatuland 2 fulani & he want 2 take their guns they use 2 defend theirselves.how many fulani herdsmen hav d useless soldier arrested? |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by Tunenez(m): 1:19pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
leofab: You make a very valid point...but you dey vex oo |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by neche2007: 1:31pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
Cowardice to the highest level. Why have you not asked for the culprits of the previous killers of innocent Agatu people. This governor is a sell out. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by femolii: 1:32pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
The governor is crazy. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by 99foxxy(f): 1:37pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
See this road side governor, so over 300 people that were killed is only a soldier own that matters? It's a pity. God have mercy on this dead country called Nigeria. I wish I can create a country so that we the citizens can go and the bloody leaders remain in their zoo they ve created. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by jacko007(m): 1:38pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
freeze001: Its Nigerian dear, everything is acceptable.... When he was about to be killed , the never thought about the aftermath... Many ugly events have had its way in benue. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by 99foxxy(f): 1:39pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
UncleJudax:Don't mind the idiot. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by Ken4Christ: 1:43pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
The Governor is silly. I hope this is his first term. He should be voted out from office if he is contesting for another term. The truth about the matter is the soldiers are sent to arrest any Aguta person trying to defend itself against the fulani herdsmen. So, if a soldier was killed, they could have done that out of frustration. When the fulani herdsmen attacks, no soldier shows up. But the moment the youth come out to defend themselves against the fulani herdsmen, the soldiers will arrest them. About two weeks ago, in one of the community, the vigilante group were able to resist the fulani herdsmen. The next thing they saw was soldiers coming to arrest two men and while they were taking them away, the boys blocked the road and they were forced to drop the men arrested. So, the Aguta crises has actually taken a new dimension. It is the fulani herdsmen and the soldiers on side and the people of Aguta on the other hand. Buhari is the master mind behind all this and people are wishing him quick recovery so he can continue with his Islamic agenda. I wish the soldiers from the south who are Christians would understand what is going on and use wisdom to carry out the wicked orders of the President. God is fighting for us and no one will continue to spill the blood of innocent Christian and go unpunished. The Governor is a disgrace and a coward. Osibanjo should do the needful and call the soldiers to other. 1 Like |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by DonCortino: 2:04pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
EasyMoh where are you? Come and explain to us why d governor is looking for soldiers. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by Nobody: 2:12pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
HungerBAD: I used to think you are a good analyst, but I was wrong. You support one idiots threatening civilians to produce killers...what is the job of your useless uniformed men? |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by sweetgala(m): 2:30pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
weyabcom: Once soldiers and police become open targets then the security of the country is at stake. Those soldiers left their homes several thousand kilometres away left their families to come guarantee the safety of the people of agatu from herdsmen only to be killed by militias from that same community Nigerians never fail to amaze me |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by sweetgala(m): 2:31pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
dragonking3: Are you condoning murder now because I don't get your foolish arguement |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by kechywillz(m): 2:37pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
The governor is an asslicker |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by weyabcom: 2:48pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
sweetgala:u lack sayings. The soldiers we know that joins in killing of agatu people. How many herdsmen have they arrested. Also stop seeing soldiers as if they are doing the hardest work in Nigeria. No on force them. Even teachers do more great job than them. Let the fg handle economy we don't even need soldiers openly. In USA u won't see them in such ways... Go take cold coke abeg |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by hannyjay(f): 3:03pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
leofab:U ar a very useless AKUYA. In fact let dat 72hrs elapse and u ll see wat happen. They forgot ZAKIBIAM abi, no problem we ll remind them and i pray u shud b in dat village |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by sweetgala(m): 3:10pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
weyabcom: Your first sentence betrayed you as the illiterate I know you are. Incoherent nonsense The Army were sent there for their own protection and to keep the peace and stop it degrading into another plateau state. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by thebadmus(m): 3:36pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
SalamRushdie:. I never believe fulani herdsmen killed 100s Agatu people. if this Agatu people can be bold enough to kill soldiers and put vigilante, it means all the story we are hearing is a rumour |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by horllyma(m): 4:04pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
[quote author=HungerBAD post=53757980]These Agatu people sef. I remember when it was almost a taboo to touch or harm a representative of the Federal Government. I remember when putting on the Military,Police, NYSC Uniforms is a source of safety for those that put them on. Sadly, you become a prime target for killing these days if you put on any kind of Uniform. In Rivers State, they did not only kill the Police Officer, but they stole his head, as if his head contained GOLD and buried a WHOLE Vehicle. The Governor got this one right. The Agatu people should produce the killers of the Soldier, or the town should SMH. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by horllyma(m): 4:08pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
[quote author=horllyma post=53771694][/quote] guess your brain is between ur two leg. smh. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by weyabcom: 5:09pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
sweetgala:u are a mad illiterate. An slowpoke. So u have to know they are there for their duty and no one force them. Teachers must b in the class. Animal like u |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by Gnwuashi: 7:00pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
The governor should rather investigate what the soldiers did that led to the killing because they won't just kill a soldier for no reason. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by sweetgala(m): 7:22pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
weyabcom: Why the truth pain your life like so. No be me talk make Buhari frustrate your life . |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by fyinka47(m): 7:25pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
Police in any sane country are in charge of the internal security. The right thing to do is to allow the police to investigate, arrest and prosecute the culprit. |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by Omeokachie: 7:27pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
Or what? Send fulani after them? |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by captainjoh(m): 7:32pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
HungerBAD: you're the biggest fool of 2017. how many of the fulani's that have been killing in agatu have they produce? what evidence dose he have to show that the killer is an agatu person and not a Fulani? |
Re: Ortom Gives Agatu 72 Hours To Produce Soldier’s Killer by UltraLeslie: 8:34pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
greenpasture:Please stop this ridiculous postulation!!! It is embarrassingly irksome. All military rules of engagement are inline with the constitutional provision. What the military has done is murder by taking laws into its hands. Are the military in war with the people of Agatu or whatever? Even in war situations, military officers are brought to book for killing unarmed , defenceless citizens. You must be a militarily man endorsing murder and genocide with the ridiculous excuse of reprisal? You are thoroughly worrisome. So the army is carrying out reprisal on villagers who aren't soldiers? May God help you! greenpasture:Please cease this preposterous show of ignominy. I just gave you illustrations where the soldiers of these countries show professionalism by disciplining their erring members. The US has repeatedly punish its soldiers for misconduct in Iraq and Afghanistan it's no longer news. You're genuinely in need of update. You wonder why Nigerian soldiers have been reduced to boyscout by Boko Haram which didn't receive more than 6 months training? It is because they lack discipline and restraint. If you believe in military reprisal on a village, then you're a coward murderer and undisciplined thug. Soldiers are supposed to be have the highest level of restraint and discipline ever, and not displaying primal impulses and emotional vulnerability. That's why the defence of a country is put on their soldiers. Saying soldiers doctrine is reprisal is a norm is regrettably dangerous. And coming in 2017 is a huge step back for our social and mental development. greenpasture: Still more crap. Nigeria is a country where our rulers and military officials take laws into their hands knowing it can be swept over the rug and no one will call them to account. I put it to you, if the soldiers met the very person who killed their colleague and he surrendered, any soldier who fires at him has gone against military rule of engagement! If a soldier met an enemy solider of another nation who surrenders and he killed him in Cold-blood, he has gone against the rules of engagement. Coming into a village and shooting sporadically to avenge a colleague is pure murder. No one else in the world does this except the dumb fúcks in uniform called Nigeria Army These brutes lack intelligence gathering, tactics and stealth and that's why Boko boys are butchering them. They should be hang on a noose for murder. 1 Like |
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