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Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Olu317(m): 10:52pm On Feb 18, 2017 |
Living4christ: IF YOU READ THIS ABOUT IBOS YOU WILL BE SHOCKED ABOUT WHAT RESEARCHERS DISCOVERED ABOUT YOU. YOUR WORDS SHOWS YOUR IDENTITY. PROOF THIS PIECE WRONG... The son of Osiris was called Horus. This is a Greek version of a native Egyptian word Heru , which means ‘Face’, as in ‘Face of the Sun’. Its Igbo original is Iru – ‘Face’. Horus was known as the Lord of the Horizon. The Horizon being known to the Egyptians as the land of the Rising Sun, a place located in the Southwestern direction from Egypt - the original mythological home of the gods of Egypt. Our analyses shows that this land of the Rising sun was known in several other world mythologies as the Center/Navel of the Earth. The actual cartographical center of the earth, as indicated in all old maps of the world is ‘Median Biafra’, for median means ‘Center’. Biafra is the ancient name for the place now known as Igbo land. It’s location on world maps shows that Igbo land was the true ‘navel of the earth’. Igbo land was thus, that Land of the Rising Sun/that Horizon Land to which Egyptian mythologies and pyramid records refer as the Heaven of the Egyptians. The international word ‘ Horizon’ is thus derived from the name ‘Horus’, which in itself is derived from Igbo word Iru – ‘Face of the Sun’. To demonstrate their genetic claim to being the true god-men who lived in this land of the gods, Igbo initiates marked themselves with the symbol of the sun – ichi , a word derived from another name of the Sun/daylight, chi, which is also the name of the spirit of God in Man and from which originated the Greek word Christ [14] |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by cheruv: 12:21am On Feb 19, 2017 |
disumusa:Lies everywhere 1 Like |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Igboid: 12:32am On Feb 19, 2017 |
iSlayer: True! Etche has many Igbo denials, and many proud Igbo people. Etche involvement in Rivers politics and their Igbo denial has not brought them much political and economic upliftment as it did for Ikwerres. Instead it resulted in Ikwerres eclipsing them. This makes the Igbo denials amongst them look stupid and those who uphold their Igbo origin appear wise. The highest political post an Etche man had ever wielded was achieved by Late Mazi Nwuke and this was achieved in the Eastern region, when Etche was not playing the Igbo denial politics. http://nigerianwiki.com/Jonas_Nwuke 1 Like |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by iSlayer: 11:16am On Feb 19, 2017 |
Igboid: Despicable! The Ikwerre eclipsing them is now a bitter pill for them to swallow |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Living4christ(m): 10:20am On Feb 20, 2017 |
Olu317: Well lets just wait for the DNA test to come ou we will know the deal. One thing you faild to understand is that Igbo language is one of the oldest language in the world that has remained uncurrupted, Hebrew as we know is currupted, the jews to day don't speak original hebrew, Igbo on the other hand is the older version of Hebrew, the word "igbo" was first written as "Heebo" during the trans Atlantic slave trade when Igbos was the demand in the market, the word heebo has striken similarities with the world "Hebrew". Egyptian does not circumcise, so where did we learn to circumcise? Igbos though have been here before Eri of Gad of Israel, came via omambala river and intermarried with Igbos by the direction of God, this shows that Igbos does not only share lineage with Hebrews, but with Israel also. 2 Likes |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Living4christ(m): 10:34am On Feb 20, 2017 |
Olu317: See as you dey deceive yourself, you can not expect Oluadah equianno to come back, you know why? There was no possibility of comming back, and you why? Because it is not possible. And again he was doing a great work stoping slavery. Oluadah (1745 - 1797) lived centuries before ajayi crowther was born 1809 -1891 1 Like |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Living4christ(m): 10:42am On Feb 20, 2017 |
Olu317: Can you tell me how many Jewish organization or group has visited yoruba land for fact finding mission as of whether yorubas are israelites? None. How many synagogue is in yorubaland with this population? (picx) How many certificate have you received as concerning your claim? But you know, they have visited igbo land thrice or more, first was the ambasador of israel, next was the Solomon Shepherdic federation, and so on. the latest jewish professors doing DNA testing on ndi anambara. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Olu317(m): 11:34am On Feb 20, 2017 |
Living4christ:Excellent question; Modern JUDAISM being practised in MODERN ISRAEL still have touches with YORUBA CORE TRADITIONS in YORUBA LAND. Another is the founder of JUDAISM for the dark skinned Hebrews called ARNOLD JOSIAH FORD in the United States of America. Now, read what one WHITE RABBI SAID ABOUT ARNOLD JOSIAH'S TEACHING “ A Jewish scholar who visited the congregation described their services as “a mixture of Reform and Orthodox Judaism, but when they practice the old customs they are seriously orthodox” (Kobre, 25). Harlem chronicler James VanDerZee" These were said in 1924.... YORUBA religion is so strong that it's has been termed accord to this study: “On the basis of comparative studies between the dynastic tradition of the Oyo-Yoruba and ancient Near Eastern history, the present article argues that Yoruba traditions of provenance, claiming immigration from the Near East, are basically correct . According to Ọyo-Yoruba tradition, the ancestral Yoruba saw the Assyrian conquests of the Israelite kingdom from the ninth and the eighth centuries B.C. from the perspective of the Israelites . After the fall of Samaria in 722 B.C.., they were deported to eastern Syria and adopted the ruling Assyrian kings as their own.” – Origin of the Yoruba and “The Lost Tribes of Israel”, By Dierk Lange Though there isn't A DNA test on any part of Yoruba land but be rest assured.. YORUBA LAND IS THE JEWISH SCIENTISTS DESTINATION. DO YOU KNOW THERE IS A SCROLL CALLED “IDI" AND BEING WORSHIPED AT ILE IFE ? THE EXCAVATION IN YORUBA LAND YET UNDONE WILL UNRAVEL ALL THESE MYSTERY... LASTLY IF A PROFESSOR WHO HAS USED ALL HIS LIFE STUDYING WEST AFRICA HISTORY IS BOLD TO WRITE IT OUT AND PRONOUNCED “YORUBA AS ISRAEL".... Then you need to PONDER ON SUCH INFORMATION..... |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Living4christ(m): 11:45am On Feb 20, 2017 |
Olu317: Anybody can practice Judaism but everybody are jews, Arnold Josiah was practicing Judaism does not mean he is Jew. As we speak there is a place reserved for Igbos in Israel till today. 1 Like |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Olu317(m): 12:04pm On Feb 20, 2017 |
Living4christ:The reason they came was to see if you TRULY IBOS HAVE any traces that LINK THEM TO ISRAEL.....WHAT CAN YOU TELL US why do igbos initiates marked themselves with the symbol of the sun – ichi , a word derived from another name of the Sun/daylight, chi, which is also the name of the spirit of God in Man and from which originated the Greek word Christ.. YORUBA HAVE NO GOD WORSHIPPED IN THE SUN...BUT SUPREME GOD AND HE IS THE OWNER OF ALL THINGS, DETERMINES ALL THINGS AND PASS DOWN MESSAGES THROUGH HIS PROPHETS/PRIESTS/PRIESTESSES EUNUCH IN YORUBA AREN'T LIKE OSU WHO ARE CONSECRATED TO gods in IBO LAND. IN YORUBA LAND,THESE ARE HIGHLY REVERED PEOPLE WHO ARE INITIATED INTO EUNUCH HOOD AND BECOME CONSECRATED TO SERVING THE KINGS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE... |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Olu317(m): 12:20pm On Feb 20, 2017 |
Living4christ:BLOODY LIE! ARNOLD JOSIAH FORD DIDN'T WANT TO PRACTICE IS BECAUSE HE THINK HE LOVED JUDAISM BUT STARTED IT BECAUSE HE KNEW HIS ANCIENT YORUBA TRADITION WAS FULL OF IT. REMEMBER, IN THOSE YEARS, AS A DARK SKIN, YOU ARE BEING PERSECUTED MORE AND THERE AREN'T AVENUE TO EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO READING THE TORAH AS IT IS OF TODAY.... IT IS ONLY THOSE THAT WANT TO CHANGE THEIR RELIGION TO JUDAISM THAT NEED BE BAPTISED INTO THE MODERN ONE. IT HAS ALWAYS BEING A YORUBA TRADITION.... READ EL-A, READ ABOUT ELEMI, ELEDUMARE,ELEDUA,OLORUN, THESE ARE PERSONALITIES LIKENED TO ISRAEL.. TELL US WHY YOU IBOS REFUSED TO OPEN UP ON YOUR ORTHODOX TRADITIONS THIS THE ONLY WAY TO IDENTIFY YOU WITH ISRAEL... HAVE YOU ASKED YOURSELF WHY WERE THE ANCIENT YORUBA MEN AND WOMEN HAVE ANTI BODY HORMONES THAT FIGHT AGAINST LASSA FEVER? WE ARE PRACTICALLY NON AFRICANS BUT A MIXTURE OF SOME MANY TRIBES DUE TO INTER MARRIAGE. YORUBA TRADITION IS STRICTLY PECULIAR TO YORUBA LAND ONLY AND PEOPLE ONLY. WHO IS HAMADIOHA? |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Living4christ(m): 12:27pm On Feb 20, 2017 |
Olu317: This shows that you don't really understand the igbo culture. 1. Not all class of Igbo makes themselves with ichi. The Ichi is a mark given to titled men, it identifies them among the society, men who are marked with ichi are not allowed to carry any load or do any work. That was the purpose of the mark, it was not a tribal mark. And can you explain how yorubas started having tribal marks? 2. Igbos does not worship any sun God, we have a supreme God whom we worship, he is refereed to as Chukwu okike Abiama, it means God the Creator. Take note, Omenala or omenani (which means customs of our land/Our customs which is idolatrous) that is being practice by the igbos today is not original to Igbos, it is a borrowed culture, borrowed form the Bijango people (the people of the forest) of guinea. This culture introduced many figurative worship, ranging from Agbala (godess of the earth), Amadioha, and many others. So what the Igbos practice today as their religion is just a borrowed culture, it is not ours. This was the main reason Arochukwu fell, they were given to Idolatry and wickedness. 3. Osu was not practised in every part of Igbo land, the spread of osu practice was as a result of the slave trade, it was a common practice for the Arochukwu Igbos, who then were the chief actor of selling their kins to slavery. The practise of osu helped them got more slave, because when a person is considered an "osu", he is bound to be sold out as a slave or bound to serve in the shrine. 1 Like |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Olu317(m): 1:09pm On Feb 20, 2017 |
Living4christ:It seems you didn't get the question correctly. I didn't ask anything concerning tribal marks. Instead, I asked about the reason for giving such marks. And I have read the reason but as you portrayed it as having to do with chiefs in ancient Ibo land. Infarct,they were a rejected kind of people during slave trade Area. I don't want to digress but strictly to ISRAEL IDENTITY CRISIS OF IBOS VS YORUBA TRADITION SHOWING SIMILARITIES WITH ISRAELITE JUDAISM. If today, Ibos claim to have SYNAGOGUE,THEY OWE YORUBA MAN A GREAT THANK YOU BECAUSE YORUBA MAN WAS THE FIRST RABBI IN THE HISTORY OF DARK SKIN ISRAELITES. AND ETHIOPIANS JEWS CALLED FALASAS OR BETA ISRAEL. YORUBA HAVE ALWAYS BEING A PROUD PEOPLE WHOSE RELIGION IS SEEN BY THEM AS THE WAY TO CONNECT TO GOD. You've not answered my questions on Ibo religion... Tell me the gods of Ibo called HAMADIOHA. Shango didn't create thunder but learnt the art of using thunder to fight from NUPE. YORUBA DON'T LIE. AND AFTER HIS DEATH, HE WAS DEFIED AS THE god of Thunder and this didn't make him equal to YORUBA almighty GOD called ELEDUMARE |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Olu317(m): 1:15pm On Feb 20, 2017 |
Living4christ:DEFEND THIS: Amadioha is the Alusi (god) of thunder and lightning of the Igbo people of southeastern Nigeria. He is amongst the most popular of Igbo deities and in some parts of Igboland , he is referred to as Amadiora , Kamalu (which is short for Kalu Akanu ), [1] Kamanu , [2] or Ofufe . [3] Astrologically, his governing planet is the Sun . [4] His color is red, and his symbol is a white ram. [5] Metaphysically, Amadioha represents the collective will of the people. [6] He is often associated with Anyanwu , who is the Igbo god of the Sun. While Anyanwu is more prominent in northern Igboland, Amadioha is more prominent in the southern part. His day is Afo, which is the third market day of the Igbo four-day week . ORIGIN Literally Amadioha means man of the people. Most people from the eastern part of Nigeria ascribe the name to their local deity/god. Shrines to Amadioha still exist in different parts of Igboland, but the main shrine is located at Ogboro Ama Ukwu or Ihiokpu as it is called in Ozuzu in Etche Local Government Area of present-day Rivers State , Nigeria. Although it is located there, it is not the patron deity of the people of Ozuzu. In fact, it is said that Ozuzu is the town in which Amadioha "lives" and it serves as it earthly headquarters. It is from there that it spread to other parts of Igboland. LEARN TO INFORM PROPERLY |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Olu317(m): 1:32pm On Feb 20, 2017 |
Living4christ:YORUBA LANGUAGE IS NOT ONE OF THE OLDEST IN THE WORLD AND ISRAEL LANGUAGE ISN'T EITHER. THEN WHERE DID IBO LANGUAGE DEVELOPED PROPERLY FROM? DO YOU KNOW BANTU GROUP PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STUDIED BY RESEARCHERS TO HAVE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED FROM NIGERIA? A SHOCKING AND COMPELLING FACT FINDING /RESEARCH ON IBOS A. K. A“IGBOS" Egyptians were Igbos. [11] These linguistic pieces of evidence suggest that the earliest Egyptian civilization (the time when gods and not men ruled Egypt) before Pharaohnic rule began in 3,100 BC was based in West Africa and not in North Africa – the civilization, now lost to which the Igbo Ukwu archaeological findings belong. [12] We have found several pieces of evidence supporting this assertion which will be published in subsequent articles. Ptah’s son was called Ra , meaning ‘Sun/Daylight’. It’s Igbo original was Ora (which in Afa – the cult language of Igbo native priests, also meant ‘Sun/daylight’). The grandson of Ra was called Osiris by the Greeks and Asar by the Egyptians. Osiris’ was associated with the number ‘seven’. No one knows the meaning of his name in Egypt [13] , but in Igbo language Asaa means ‘seven’! |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Olu317(m): 2:31pm On Feb 20, 2017 |
Living4christ:FUNNY. VERY FUNNY INDEED. WHERE ON EARTH DOES CERTIFICATE TURN TO A RACE? WE ARE REFERRING TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH DISTINCT CULTURE AND HAVING SUPREME GOD THAT WONT ASK ANYTHING FROM HUMAN BEINGS BUT HAVE FEELINGS LIKE HUMAN BEINGS, TALK LIKE HUMAN BEINGS AND FEEL LIKE HUMAN BEINGS BUT HAS NO BEGINNING NOR END.... THIS IS WHAT MADE ISRAEL DIFFERENT FROM OTHER NATIONS. A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAD NO MONARCHY SYSTEM BUT ADOPTED TO BE LIKE OTHER NATIONS. THIS IS MISSING IN ANCIENT IBOS TRADITION. ALL THE IGWES, OBIS ARE RECENT PAST. KINGS IN YORUBA LAND HAD BEEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS. I GIVE EVIDENCE AND BACK IT UP. THE WHOLE WORLD HAVE HISTORY AND IF AFRICANS AREN'T READY TO FIND ANYTHING ABOUT THEMSELVES BECAUSE IT IS A HAMITIC CONTINENT ,THE HISTORIANS ARE LOOKING FOR THE 10+1 LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL. YORUBA IS AN ISRAELI GROUP HAVING A LEVANT TRADITION. HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THAT YORUBA ARE HOMOGENEOUS IN SETTLEMENT? WE DON'T LIKE TRAVELING OUT AS SUCH AND ANYWHERE YORUBA FIND THEMSELVES , YORUBA ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WHERE THEY CAME FROM. |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by JacksonD7: 7:55pm On Feb 20, 2017 |
Living4christ: The stretch of the Benin Kingdom could have left some landmarks, and did you search their history before concluding that they have no links whatsoever with Benin. |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by 1Rebel: 7:29pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
Ooni: |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by Duru1(m): 7:36pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
Living4christ: No human being is black. Color can never be a human. |
Re: As Ikwerre, Etche Etc. Deny Igboness, Blacks In USA Express Joy For Being Igbo by geraldmezi(m): 8:15pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
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