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Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by Lokoyen(m): 11:55pm On Mar 13, 2017 |
obailala: Thanks for the matured response. I actually checked same day although late and check yesterday I didn't see my name. Yes, it can be the handy work of a bug but that doesn't proof Apostle bought the car. It is not possible to just alter a government website without going through necessary quarters for approval. |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:00am On Mar 14, 2017 |
chiefkpokp: Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source. The name was removed as damage control but it is still very much accessible on Internet Archive here: view-source:http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:01am On Mar 14, 2017 |
Lokoyen: Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source. The name was removed as damage control but it is still very much accessible on Internet Archive here: view-source:http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:06am On Mar 14, 2017 |
ChikaSunday: Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source. The name was removed as damage control but it is still very much accessible on Internet Archive here: view-source:http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:08am On Mar 14, 2017 |
yankosbaba: I personally checked it and it was there. Other people verified it. The site was able to show owner's names through its source viewer. To try it, use the internet archived page to check any Lagos plate number and just view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej 1 Like |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:12am On Mar 14, 2017 |
kenney222:Your sad attempts at damage control only help to prove Sulaiman's guilt in this matter. His name will be forever linked to Stephanie Otobo and the internet never forgets. Better tell him to come out and say the truth so that this matter can die a natural death. All these mercy after death methods won't work at all. The internet has the said page archived and saved for posterity: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej Nobody tampered with anything. There is no way someone can edit source code and upload without access to cPanel information. The fact that you edited source code in your screenshot doesn't mean others will open the website and see it. Thousands of people checked the website and saw the said information before it was removed. Just let this issue go and rest. You have no case. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:18am On Mar 14, 2017 |
remedick: Internet Archive saves a website mainly when its robots notice a change in the website. It does this automatically to provide a backup of the information therein. I will not also be surprised if they petition Internet Archive to remove the archived page. In which case, Google Cache Viewer will reveal it. If they remove it from Google Cache viewer, Coral Web Cache will be there. The circle will continue forever. |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:25am On Mar 14, 2017 |
virus05: What are you saying? The code wasn't working. It was hidden as a comment only to be seen in the source code viewer. Initially, it was displaying on the page as at December but when someone linked this same plate number to Apostle Sulaiman then, they stopped it from displaying using a comment tag in the code. However, they failed to realise that Nigerians will stop at nothing to find the truth. Some persons discovered that the names of car owners were still there, albeit hidden in the source code. Others verified it and I did so myself. Now the comment has been removed and so goes the name of the "Apostle" with it. However, the internet never forgets. You can use internet archive to get the information and verify easily. Check it on: Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source. http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:30am On Mar 14, 2017 |
yankosbaba: Hundreds of people on this thread have come out to say that indeed they saw it too. What more proof do you need? Kindly visit: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej and view the source code. The Internet NEVER forgets! |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:31am On Mar 14, 2017 |
Ruggedpen: Hundreds of people on this thread have come out to say that indeed they saw it too. What more proof do you need? Kindly visit: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej and view the source code. The Internet NEVER forgets! |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:34am On Mar 14, 2017 |
Abillsable: There is absolutely NOTHING smart about that response. Hundreds of people on this thread have come out to say that indeed they saw it too. Initially, it was displaying on the page as at December but when someone linked this same plate number to Apostle Sulaiman then, they stopped it from displaying on the website using a comment tag in the code. However, they failed to realise that Nigerians will stop at nothing to find the truth. Some persons discovered that the names of car owners were still there, albeit hidden in the source code. Others verified it and I did so myself. Now the comment has been removed and so goes the name of the "Apostle" with it. However, the internet never forgets. You can use internet archive to get the information and verify easily. Check it on: Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source. http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:35am On Mar 14, 2017 |
nopains: I personally checked it and it was there. Other people verified it. The site was able to show owner's names through its source viewer. To try it, use the internet archived page to check any Lagos plate number and just view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:38am On Mar 14, 2017 |
bionixs: I personally checked it and it was there. Other people verified it. The site was able to show owner's names through its source viewer. To try it, use the internet archived page to check any Lagos plate number and just view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:39am On Mar 14, 2017 |
pokipoki:Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source. The name was removed as damage control but it is still very much accessible on Internet Archive here: view-source:http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:40am On Mar 14, 2017 |
Skookum: Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source. The name was removed as damage control but it is still very much accessible on Internet Archive here: view-source:http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:41am On Mar 14, 2017 |
Edwinmason: Yes I did! It was confirmed. You can also verify it yourself! The was a website where owner information was displayed from its inception, mind you. Owner information was removed initially in December when the issue of Sulaiman's name came up first. However, it was removed and the code for that was hidden. Little did they know that it could be viewed from the source code. Now they have shut it entirely but the internet never forgets. Even if they shut down this internet archive, this page is archived in many other internet archives. Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:45am On Mar 14, 2017 |
5Kay: It was confirmed. You can also verify it yourself! The was a website where owner information was displayed from its inception, mind you. Owner information was removed initially in December when the issue of Sulaiman's name came up first. However, it was removed and the code for that was hidden. Little did they know that it could be viewed from the source code. Now they have shut it entirely but the internet never forgets. Even if they shut down this internet archive, this page is archived in many other internet archives. Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:48am On Mar 14, 2017 |
gadgetsngs: Is it now about the clarity of the picture. First they said it was a lie, then hundreds of people confirmed the story. Now you are focusing on the picture. Answer me this: What is his name doing in a plate number that is not his? A plate number of a car purportedly belonging to or seen in the residence of Daniella Okeke? |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:52am On Mar 14, 2017 |
remedick: Now you want to incite ethnic sentiments so that your "Apostle" can be defended? Southerners are not foolish you know. We are educated and we think for ourselves. It's just a pity that some, like you, would stare at the truth and turn the other way because he is your pastor and from your region. Kaduna State, Islam, and the North, did not make him sleep with Otobo and did not mysteriously take his car to Okeke's residence. Stop trying to politicise an issue of hypocrisy, infidelity and the usage of tithes, offerings and collections to enrich actresses, actors, stippers and prostitutes. 1 Like |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by pokipoki: 12:56am On Mar 14, 2017 |
fratermathy:I won't open you link for personal security reasons. My point is who owns and controls the website? Is it Sahara reporters ? The answer is No. So the owners of the website can virtually do anything on their site. It is their property!!!! The proper thing for Sahara reporters as investigative journalist is ask for an interview with the owners of the website for them to confirm the stories and not try to undermine their website. Without a verbal or written confirmation from the owners of the site, the story still remains unverified!!! An unverified story like any other thing is fake!!!! That is proper investigative journalism. |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 12:57am On Mar 14, 2017 |
Codes151: If you know the said man, you would know how he values the title of "Apostle" even more than his life. So it is not a surprise that the title sprung up there. Secondly, other people's plate numbers that were checked has their titles (if any). I saw one with Dr. Ebi........ So you have no point here. 2 Likes |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:00am On Mar 14, 2017 |
pokipoki: That website was launched for public use and that was what it was used for. It is not a private website. It was built by the Lagos State Government for verifying car ownership as obtained in other countries. You have no idea if Sahara Reporters requested for other proof of ownership other than the website and you cannot speak categorically on that unless you ask them yourself. And that link is a safe link from internet web archive, generally known as the backup of the internet everywhere. You can google it and open the link from their website yourself. Don't see only what you want to see. This is not an issue of guilt or not but that his name is linked to that car and was suddenly removed. The question is WHY? (if he is not guilty) 1 Like |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:02am On Mar 14, 2017 |
shine12: It was confirmed. You can also verify it yourself! The was a website where owner information was displayed from its inception, mind you. Owner information was removed initially in December when the issue of Sulaiman's name came up first. However, it was removed and the code for that was hidden. Little did they know that it could be viewed from the source code. Now they have shut it entirely but the internet never forgets. Even if they shut down this internet archive, this page is archived in many other internet archives. Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej 1 Like |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:07am On Mar 14, 2017 |
Lokoyen: It was confirmed. You can also verify it yourself! The was a website where owner information was displayed from its inception, mind you. Owner information was removed initially in December when the issue of Sulaiman's name came up first. However, it was removed and the code for that was hidden. Little did they know that it could be viewed from the source code. Now they have shut it entirely but the internet never forgets. Even if they shut down this internet archive, this page is archived in many other internet archives. Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:11am On Mar 14, 2017 |
gadgetsngs: Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source. The name was removed as damage control but it is still very much accessible on Internet Archive here: view-source:http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej 1 Like |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:18am On Mar 14, 2017 |
subsurface: No one knows what "Apostle" Sulaiman's car was doing in Okeke's garage. Hundreds of people on this thread personally verified that his name showed on the official Lagos State MVAA website. So hundreds of people were fed photoshops of their own names when they checked? Mind you, this page is archived on the web. The internet never forgets. Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source. The name was removed as damage control but it is still very much accessible on Internet Archive here: view-source:http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:19am On Mar 14, 2017 |
toyonnet: I personally checked it and it was there. Other people verified it. The site was able to show owner's names through its source viewer. To try it, use the internet archived page to check any Lagos plate number and just view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:20am On Mar 14, 2017 |
toyonnet: The was a website where owner information was displayed from its inception, mind you. Owner information was removed initially in December when the issue of Sulaiman's name came up first. However, it was removed and the code for that was hidden. Little did they know that it could be viewed from the source code. Now they have shut it entirely but the internet never forgets. Even if they shut down this internet archive, this page is archived in many other internet archives. Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by pokipoki: 1:24am On Mar 14, 2017 |
fratermathy: OK. My reason for not wanting to.click and open the website is for security reasons. Firstly, you mentioned the website was lauanched for public use. The question i want to ask is you as an individual, do you have an administrative privilege on the website ? (Can you control or change anything on the website). The answer is No. You can only view the website. Lagos state government owns and control the website, therefore, any information on the website is at their prerogative. Secondly, the website does not give names to owners of the vehicle. So again, how did Sahara reporters prove that the vehicle belongs to Apostle without trying to undermine the website. Recall I.mentioned that the proper thing for Sahara reporters is to get an interview from the owners of the site to confirm the information. Thirdly, If Sahara reporters have asked for information about the owners of the vehicle and Lagos state government has not responded, then the proper thing is to keep quite about it rather than publishing information or news that they cannot back up with facts and evidence. Simply put, it is unverified news. Unverified news is fake news!!!!! So how do you judge a man without proper evidence? |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:26am On Mar 14, 2017 |
Keegan: Yes! Liars like "Apostle" Sulaiman who would rather employ people to do damage control than own up to the truth. The internet doesn't lie!!! See the archived page here: Open the website on your internet browser on a PC and click on view source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170312200210/http://www.lsmvaapvs.org/search.php?vpn=mus123ej 1 Like |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:35am On Mar 14, 2017 |
pokipoki: Firstly, that website has always been open and anyone could access the owner's information. In fact, in December, someone created a thread on Sulaiman's name appearing in a car in Okeke's garage. After the initial scandal, damage control was done and the owner information element was removed. However, its removal was amateurish as it could still be viewed on the source code. They only hide the element using an HTML comment function. When this issue came up again, someone realised that the information was still there if you used the source code. Many people, including myself, checked it and confirmed. Sahara Reporters must have checked it as well and confirmed. It should be noted that this is a website built by the government strictly for this purpose in which it has been used so I wonder why you are trying to deflect the issue and causing more suspicions for the man. Sahara reporters may have gotten even more authentic information on this issue and you wouldn't know because you didn't ask and your "Oracle" has not sued for libel so that the evidence can be presented. That is how things are done. If this was all a game, the "Apostle" should sue for libel and we'll know he means business. The online truancy you and your cohorts are exhibiting only serve to convince more people of his guilt in the issue. Why take his defence so personal even when hundreds of people on this thread have verified the authenticity of the said information? As for me, I saw it myself and many others did. The page is still archived on the web for more to also see. The "Apostle" has not debunked it nor has Okeke. Sahara Reporters has not been sued nor has any official statement been made. As far as I am concerned, this information is authentic until proven otherwise and the burden of defence rests on Sulaiman. What you guys are doing is counterproductive. There is a reason he asked his members to refrain from speaking on the issue in the first place. 1 Like |
Re: False Evidence Against Apostle Johnson Suleman REVEALED. by fratermathy(m): 1:46am On Mar 14, 2017 |
Lokoyen: What makes them to special from the men you judge every day? By calling someone a "fool", you have already judged the person. I reckon you are a Christian. What makes your pastor or Sulaiman different from the person you just called a "fool"? Isn't it hypocrisy to judge someone yet ask others not to judge your "Oracle"? This same "Oracle" that uses moles to deceive all of you in the name of miracles. C'mon man! 1 Like |
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