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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by jist2day: 8:27am On Apr 21, 2017 |
selfmadeboss:This will eventually happen soon. The beast will turn against the harlot, tearing it to pieces. The unholy union between the political structure and the world's religious groups will be broken soon |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by OAUTemitayo: 8:29am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Wacky lawyer, next time before calling people fool, learn and learn.
World has grown beyond all those wacky knowledge.
Calling somebody a fool on something you know NADA about.
You think Russia answers to any fuc.king European law.
Iranu |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by otswag(m): 8:30am On Apr 21, 2017 |
cosade:my brother,No disrespect. the lie wasn't about your experience. It is about is the false inference u made from d incident,concluding that they don't pray with others. If something like that happened, it wasn't because they have a thing against praying. "EVERYTIME" and I mean everytime I met with them, we prayed before and after the Bible studies. |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by joe4real12: 8:35am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Dongreat:Read and understand what extremism is |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Zitere1: 8:42am On Apr 21, 2017 |
I love J. W. I hope copy copy Nigeria will not copy from Putin. I enjoy their explanation of d Bible at home on Saturday's. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by akanbiaa(m): 8:45am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Nigeriadondie:Ok noted but hope their Judicial system is unbiased? |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by abduljabbar4(m): 8:47am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Successobed: I knew one goat will soon mention islam despite the fact that it has no business with this thread. You people are sick |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Maximus85(m): 8:48am On Apr 21, 2017 |
We don't sell our journals. Even if you're willing to donate and we perceive you won't read, we won't release our journals to you. We pray. We pray with respect to the Supreme one we are praying to. That's why we might not pray in public so that people will see us. Jesus taught us to pray. He's the one who sent us out to preach. Luke 10:5,6 Jesus said "When you enter the house, greet them" Who are we to do something else. When Jehovah's Witnesses have visited you repeatedly, and they have ascertained you really want to learn the truth, they will pray with you. Mind you, once they make contact with you, they include you in their our personal prayers. Bro, you need to hear Jehovah's Witnesses pray. 1 Like |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Maximus85(m): 8:55am On Apr 21, 2017 |
jist2day: Bro, this is food for adults in the spiritual sense. Not for Babes, they can't understand this prophecy. Someone with a good sense of reasoning would ask "Why are Jehovah's Witnesses be singled out to be criticized amongst all other religious organizations in the world?" Something special must be about them. The world would love what is its own but because we don't belong to the world or do the same things with them.... They hate us and we are not surprised... Bring it on. They are just helping us to believe the more that we are in the right path to life everlasting. 3 Likes |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by SlyCharlie(m): 8:55am On Apr 21, 2017 |
OAUTemitayo:Lol, u dey mind the guy?... I was about tackling him wen I saw u had already done the job. Nice One |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 8:57am On Apr 21, 2017 |
akanbiaa:If u know Russia well bro then a lot of questions wud need to answered. Are u aware that there is great discontent in Russia, no freedom of expression and as such no dissenting voices that goes unpunished, that is a country where domestic violence perpetrators go free while d victim is punished, that is a country where anything against d state and d Orthodox church is a target. I live in a country close to Russia and u need to know how people from surrounding countries hate Russia. Corruption is so high. If u as a black man go their believe me anything that happens to u, u can never get justice. Infact it is easy to get justice in Nigeria than in Russia.Consider the links i will show u below https://www.google.no/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/07/putin-approves-change-to-law-decriminalising-domestic-violence http://www..com/talk/topic,262186.0.html http://www..com/talk/topic,85356.0.html https://www.google.no/amp/s/www.naij.com/amp/41010-61921.html https://www.google.no/amp/s/www.marketplace.org/amp/2012/09/03/world/corruption-problem-russias-courts |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by philGeo(m): 9:00am On Apr 21, 2017 |
rabzy:Hahaha, please no kill me with laugh, but Guy no even give the Judge space oh. |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by dragonking3: 9:03am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Successobed:There is no difference between what happened in Russia and what is happening in nairaland Seun gives Muslims opportunity to roam everywhere even to the religion thread and allow them cause chaos but the Christians are being persecuted, banned and must forcefully convert to Islam before they can make comments |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by TheLogicalMind(m): 9:05am On Apr 21, 2017 |
OAUTemitayo: Actually you're the one who is out of order my dear idiotic wannabe intellectual. The decision you referred to only affects human rights issues as they touch on Russia's national security and it was taken when the ECHR declared it to be a violation of human rights law for Russia's Security services to spy on Russian citizens who were living in EU countries. Other areas of human rights law are NOT affected. Next time try and put those handful of brain cells in your near empty head to good use or you'll graduate with a low GPA. If you're the kind of product that OAU is producing these days then I fear for the future of your Law Faculty. Maybe I should bring it to the attention of the Council for legal Education. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by kristana(f): 9:06am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Hitler did worse, he even said he was going to exterminate Jehovahs witnesses in Germany. Today we have thousands of Jehovahs witnesses in Germany. We will patiently wait for Jehovah to act. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by thinkmoney(m): 9:07am On Apr 21, 2017 |
I made front page for the first time. Ho mine, what a sense of fulfilment. My Muslim brothers, ebami gboloun tobi! Christian brothren, may una help me shout hallelujah oo. 1 Like |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nobody: 9:07am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Dongreat:You are a lier they don't knock by 6am you are lieing just because of likes be sincere to yourself lier 1 Like |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by neocortex: 9:08am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Nwakaumu: They are not different from other sects or religions on dividing family. Here is what jesus have to say: For I have come to turn "'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother,Mathew 10:35 So using your logic, all christian sects should be banned, not only JWs. 1 Like |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by rabzy: 9:09am On Apr 21, 2017 |
philGeo: I have been following the proceedings online from the first day, as arguments and counter arguments are proffered. I suspected it would be a ban and it would come to nairaland and people who don't have an inkling of what is happening will just talk based on personal opinion and prejudices. The guy didn't waste time in opening a thread sharp sharp. 1 Like |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Origin(f): 9:12am On Apr 21, 2017 |
What were they in court for and why was the judgement given. If the only heart surgeon in the world became a JW and he fell ill and could be saved but refused transfusions. What would be the impact Lost knowledge, future lives lost, the decline in the morale of doctors who could easily have saved him but couldn't, his loss to his family, future taxes lost. For a militarized nation like Russia, not saluting the flag would probably be seen as treason or uncertainty about one's alliance. Everybody has a right to religion. Everybody must also comply with the laws of the land. See dilemma. Russia that can shout war anyhow. Imagine if half the population become JW. Imagine if them force the JW go war, men you can't afford for any of them to be injured o. Cos he will refuse blood. Hmmmmm.... |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by neocortex: 9:12am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Randy100: For I have come to turn "'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother,Mathew 10:35 Are you indirectly condemning jesus your god ? |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by thinkmoney(m): 9:13am On Apr 21, 2017 |
nuesmann:The man fall my hand. As I take like am reach? His problem is that he is too nationalistic. His hand must have been forced by the Russian eastern Orthodox church. |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 9:21am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Origin:Yes our refusal to go to war makes us not stain our hands with blood. It is d reason an Isreali JW wud live in peace with a Palestinian JW, it is the reason a Hutu JW didnt kill Tutsi JW in Rwanda during d genocide. If Nigeria were at war with Cameroon a Catholic in Naija army fight will kill his brother in Cameroon military and both wud ve prayed before going to war. So who wud God ve listened to? Read Acts 5:29. When d law of d land say i should go against God's law then God's law must be prioritised. 3 Likes |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by phiszo(m): 9:23am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Most people here don't know the meaning of extremism. |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by OAUTemitayo: 9:29am On Apr 21, 2017 |
TheLogicalMind:Ignoramus. You stated that Jehovah witness will appeal to one yeye ECHR that holds no leverage over Russia and i countered your wacky knowledge with proven facts and cases and you are still talking nonsense. On what basis did you think Russian Justice Ministry requested that the RussianSupreme court outlaw JW? You really don't know anything about how international politics and law works. FYI, I am not even a law student, but did some law course in part two which seems more valuable than your wasted five years of studying law in your comatose University. Nonsense 1 Like |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by NwaGodl1000(m): 9:33am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Russia and hateful international affairs. believe me this is bcs JW was found by an American(Russell)and their fight against human right act. |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by rabzy: 9:34am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Origin: The case of the ministry of justice against the witnesses was a case of being extremists and having extremist literature such as my book of Bible stories, which was listed as an extremist literature. Extremism as defined by the Russian law is when you incite people to violence or cause violence. The ministry of justice could not provide a single incidence where witnesses comitted extremism. All the ministry witnesses were former JW and they were asked if there was any incident where they were asked, encouraged or forced to commit an act of extremism. Not one could bring a single incident. One said he was expelled from being a JW and therefore is a case of extremism, the lawyer of the JW quoted verses where that was applied and therefore is a doctrinal matter which is not the case in court, he also mentioned that the orthodox church expelled a famous author and despite calls in the media for his reinstatement the church has not done, so would the ministry of Justice charge the ROC for extremism based on that. 3 Likes |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by OAUTemitayo: 9:35am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Nigeriadondie:Another Brainwashed tomboy. There is discontent in Russia. Tell me a society where there is no discontent. Most Russians love Putin, minority doesn't even hate him though they don't like his style. Tell me, is it everybody in America that like Trump? There are people who don't even like him at all. Russia has issues of corruption yes, likewise America and other western countries. Forget all those media brainwashing |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nobody: 9:37am On Apr 21, 2017 |
seeyouin2019: Then Nigeria is?? |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 9:40am On Apr 21, 2017 |
OAUTemitayo:Must u be so stupid or careless to insult yourself even if people's opinion differ from urs? Are u a ruminant to regurgitate insults? It is u who is d tomboy useless child. U re there in Nigeria but I ve been to Russia and currently live very close to Russia. Or are ur brains washed with what only d Russian state media feeds u with |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 9:41am On Apr 21, 2017 |
rabzy: U dey mind haters |
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by ekanDamie: 10:05am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Dongreat:this is d kind of false allegation that wicked people like you spread all around. Jehovah's witnesses never knocks people door below 8:30. |
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