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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Gentsndladys: 9:56am On May 22, 2017
CDS oversees the functions of all other chief of staff (Army, Navy nd Airforce etc), in other words they report to him CDS. But Nigeria being who she is......., anything goes

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by arrestdarrester: 9:57am On May 22, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:

Defence only consists of the three services in the Armed forces.

Police is outside their purview, same with Civil Defence etc.


Wrong! Absolutely wrong!!

Defence is more than Military. Go check your facts NOW.
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nobody: 9:57am On May 22, 2017
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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by vickylincon(m): 10:03am On May 22, 2017
erimmy:
Lol another coordinator. OK continue.
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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by serikigoro: 10:04am On May 22, 2017
Ideally it should be the chief of defense staff (CDS), but considering our history of military incursion in politics, the office of the chief of army staff COAS has turned out to be the most favoured/cherished by the various C in Cs. These things largely depends on the disposition of the C in C.

Obasanjo as a military man was very confident in himself and so did not bother much about who was COAS, OR CDS. Rather he appointed his long time friend and collegue TY danjuma as minister of defence, in those days the military was firmly under the control of the ministry of defense, understandable so, perhaps many of the army chiefs and generals at the time were perhaps just entering NDA when TY Danjuma, ObJ were already head of state and CDS respectively.

Under Gej Alex badeh as CDS was far more visible and more influential than Lt Minimah even though Minimah was Ijaw, whereas when Oluseyi Petirin was CDS Ihijirika as COAS was more visible and influential. In the current dispensation Buratai is more influential and visible than Olonishakin(CDS). Under Yardua Lt Gen Danbazau(COAS) was more visible/powerful than Paul Dike the then CDS. Nigeria is a very disjointed country without specific structures, our strength is mainly in nepotism and anyhowness.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by timota(m): 10:07am On May 22, 2017
badoh:
Good day,
kindly enlighten me on the more superior position between Chief of defense staff and Chief of Army staff in the Nigeria settings.
It seems the Chief of Defence staff do not get much public attention compared to the Chief of Army staff .
What are the expected roles of the two Military Chiefs?
chief off defence staff is superior but not powerful (when he is not an army ) but where the cds is an army he is both powerful and superior .Rem Abdulsalami abubakar was the cds before abacha died and he was more powerful than Bamaiyi who was the chief off army staff

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:07am On May 22, 2017
arrestdarrester:


Wrong! Absolutely wrong!!

Defence is more than Military. Go check your facts NOW.
Police is an internal security unit headed by the IGP who report to the President directly or through his designate, Minister of Police Affairs/Minister of Interior as the case may be.

The Police Council is the Highest Authority that controls the Police.

This consists of;

- Nigeria Police Council
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27. The Nigeria Police Council shall comprise the following members:
(a) the President who shall be the Chairman;
(b) the Governor of each State of the Federation;
(c) the Chairman of the Police Service Commission; and
(d) the Inspector-General of Police

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by theSpark(m): 10:10am On May 22, 2017
NNAMDIII:
bro Secretary of defence in Nigeria is called minister of defence! He's more powerful than CDS and COAS

He was talking about the most senior military officer in the USA which is the Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff which he mistook for the civilian Secretary of Defense.

I doubt of the minister of defence in Nigeria wields more power than CDS or COAS. For one he's just a civilian administrator

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by millhouse: 10:13am On May 22, 2017
My brother u don say every.. I just dey look all these JJC and indomie generation children comment here dey laff.. Because them dey see lt.gen.burutai face for TV everyday dem no know say him get oga why him dey double up to...person wey dey over see one arm of the country's military u wan take am rub shoulder with person wey dey oversee the 3arms? I tire for some people reasoning ooo.
ehissi:


This is totally misleading, in short, it is complete hogwash........ undecided

It's like saying AOC Training command is just there, while the commander of 330 NAF Station na D koko..... angry

Are you even living in this country? undecided


You say joint operations in this country is rare? undecided

Chief of Defence Staff cannot tell Chief of Army Staff what to do at any given time!? undecided

You say Chief of Army Staff is more powerful within the army than Chief of Defence Staff? undecided

Chairman, in short the whole Nairaland, disregard in entirety what was said here. This is the typical talk you hear from politicians who know nothing about the Nigerian military.

In all things, the Chief of Defence Staff is the Koko. It is even worse when the CDS and COAS are from the same Military force, na close marking COAS go dey collect.

CDS can even recommend COAS for instant retirement for your information, don't allow pant to be wearing you there Ooooh.

No foolish Chief of Army Staff will near Mr President or Minister of Defence or NSA etc for any type of briefing without first calling Chief of Defence Staff, except he wants to terminate his career..... angry

Chief of Army Staff dey mad? Them never born that kin Chief of Army staff yet......Not even for Hollywood movie, not to even talk of Nollywood....... angry

For your information, if C-in-C even give an order now, Chief of Defence Staff can use his influence and give a counter - order to Chief of Army Staff - provided C-in-C is not on ground as at that time - and Chief of Army Staff will double up and perform it........ angry

Abi you never hear of "Obey the Last Order" before for your life. Make Chief of Army Staff no try himself, except him wan die. Him father yansh there......... angry

A 4 star officer will be on ground in the earth - even if no be Nigeria E dey, so long as he is not 6ft below the ground - and common Chief of Army Staff who is just one of the 3 service chiefs will go and be seeing C-in-C without notifying him first............ angry


I laugh in Blanket putty........... cheesy grin cheesy

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by seangy4konji: 10:14am On May 22, 2017
You go fear the two star one eagle and te sword.

If you drink better palm wine and high small make you just get liver slap that cheif of defense for your bustop and run make dem no see you catch.

Omo. Na confirm jazz be dat o. If u enter bank demand for 20 million with no gun. Dem go hand am over to you.na confirm jazz if u fit do am sha.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by vickylincon(m): 10:16am On May 22, 2017
tdayof:


The Chief of Defence Staff is the highest ranking military officer of the Nigerian Armed Forces. It is occupied by the most senior commissioned officer appointed by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Nigeria. The position was established for the first time under Nigeria's 1979 constitution.

The Chief of Defence Staff reports to the commander-in-Chief with administrative supervision of the Honourable Minister of Defence. It is the duty and responsibility of the CDS to formulate and execute policies, programmes towards the highest attainment of National Security and operational competence of the Armed Forces namely; the Army, Navy and Air Force. The CDS is assisted by the other Service Chiefs.


The chief of defense commands all troops under any of the armed forces while the COAS only has authority on men of the Nigerian army.

To you all saying the CDS cannot mobilize a unit from the army, I hope you know the most feared unit of the Nigerian armed forces after the Navy SBS is the AFSF (comprises of men from the Navy, Airforce, and Army) which is under the ONSA. These guys will answer to the CDS during an emergency as they are being funded by the ONSA.
bro, is there a way I can get info on all the forces you mentioned here..you can list them all for me. love exploring these forces
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by millhouse: 10:17am On May 22, 2017
Them no know Say Na d defense board go sit to promote or retire the COAS? Make him go form say him superior naaa.. Him know him ogas and he dare not disrespect them

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by NNAMDIII(m): 10:18am On May 22, 2017
theSpark:
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I doubt of the minister of defence in Nigeria wields more power than CDS or COAS. For one he's just a civilian administrator
Minister of defence was once a General in the army! After the President is the minister of defence followed by Chief of defence

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by abu12: 10:18am On May 22, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Administratively, the CDS oversee the activities of the COAS, CAS and CNS. But operationally, the CDS is "just there" while the COAS controls the ground troops and the entire Army.

However, CDS only take charge during "joint" operations, which is rare.
Also, though the CDS has Administrative supervision over the COAS, he CANNOT tell the COAS what to do at any given time. Only the C-in-C enjoy such power. All Service Chiefs brief the C-in-C irrespective of their title.

The COAS by virtue of the control he has, is more powerful and influential within the army than the CDS. The COAS is more dangerous too.

Hence, a C-in-C could make anybody CDS but the COAS is usually a TRUSTED general.

@OP The COAS na him be d koko

this is how they spread lies to their fellow ipob youth, pls re edit ur false information
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nobody: 10:20am On May 22, 2017
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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nobody: 10:20am On May 22, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:

Police is an internal security unit headed by the IGP who report to the President directly or through his designate, Minister of Police Affairs/Minister of Interior as the case may be.

The Police Council is the Highest Authority that controls the Police.

This consists of;

- Nigeria Police Council
==========================
27. The Nigeria Police Council shall comprise the following members:
(a) the President who shall be the Chairman;
(b) the Governor of each State of the Federation;
(c) the Chairman of the Police Service Commission; and
(d) the Inspector-General of Police
Please, who is the current minister of police affairs? And who is more superior in the chairman of the police service commission, IGP, and minister of police affairs ?
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nobody: 10:23am On May 22, 2017
Eaa247:
chief of defence staff is superior. in USA its calld defence secretary or secretary of defence
It's not true. Secretary of defence in d US is equivalent to minister of defence in Nigeria. It's not d same as chief of defence staff.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nobody: 10:27am On May 22, 2017
NNAMDIII:
Minister of defence was once a General in the army! After the President is the minister of defence followed by Chief of defence
What of National security adviser?
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by vickylincon(m): 10:28am On May 22, 2017
Segadem:


hmmmmm, I'm learning, but which of these two cheifs have power to plan coup?
wehdone o...trust me, no one will answer your question. That's a treasonable offence
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by abu12: 10:29am On May 22, 2017
Alexkene:
Please, who is the current minister of police affairs? And who is more superior in the chairman of the police service commission, IGP, and minister of police affairs ?

police and other para military are under minister of interior
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Birminghamvirgo(m): 10:29am On May 22, 2017
this is all I know

Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by SmartyPants(m): 10:29am On May 22, 2017
ShobayoEmma:
Ofcourse it is the Chief of Defence
staff but because the marginalization
is real, technically now makes Buratai
to be the ....

The only reason Buratai is a more popular figure is because the army is currently in the spotlight. Kinda obvious unless you want to be mischevious

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Jones612(m): 10:31am On May 22, 2017
Eaa247:
chief of defence staff is superior. in USA its calld defence secretary or secretary of defence
wrong, the secretary of defense is the equivalent of the minister of defense here. while the CDS equivalent is the Chairman of the joint chiefs.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Sodijan(m): 10:31am On May 22, 2017
Chief of Defense Staff na Oga on top. Army, custom, nscdc,police etc are under defense staff
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nobody: 10:33am On May 22, 2017
ikdaddy01:
...ref to Lt Gen Oladikpo Diya's statement in his defence of de allegation of Coup:......
He said even if he had wanted to plan a coup, as a CDS he didnt have control of the troops and couldnt give dem orders hence.......
He was not CDS at that time. Rather, he was CGS (chief of general staff) at that time, which is same as vice president in d democratic setting. In d democratic setting, does a vice president have power to command troops. No! It's cos d VP is not a C-in-C.
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nobody: 10:33am On May 22, 2017
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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Disneylady(f): 10:35am On May 22, 2017
allrightsir:


there is something called the internet, you are using it now, there is something called google....google is your friend, there is something called Wikipedia. Why do our youths refuse to show initiative, why must you always wait for people to do things for you?

The time it took you to type the above you could have typed "Nigerian military hierarchy" into google or Wikipedia

...and you wonder why the old generation refuse to handover
lol.....
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by vickylincon(m): 10:35am On May 22, 2017
allrightsir:


there is something called the internet, you are using it now, there is something called google....google is your friend, there is something called Wikipedia. Why do our youths refuse to show initiative, why must you always wait for people to do things for you?

The time it took you to type the above you could have typed "Nigerian military hierarchy" into google or Wikipedia

...and you wonder why the old generation refuse to handover
I don't think I asked you the question. Moreover, there are some information that are best given by insider..and the guy gave some office post have not heard before. I Know us have seal..so when I ask a question, I know why I asked. good day
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nobody: 10:36am On May 22, 2017
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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by vickylincon(m): 10:40am On May 22, 2017
allrightsir:

and you know the guy is an insider because?
bros..wetin na? is it even your mention sef
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by mechanics(m): 10:42am On May 22, 2017
The chief of army staff is under the chief of defence staff in hierarchy and so he's responsible for all the activities under the army and he has more responsibilities than the chief of defence staff, you don't expect the chief of defence staff to do the work of chief of army staff, the chief of defence staff coordinates the activities of all the other chief.

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