laudate:

Actually, those people depicted in those artworks are likely to be Ethiopians, rather than ancestors of the current Nd'Igbo, going by some of the earliest historical records on relationships that existed between Ethiopians and the Jews. Remember the story of the Queen of Sheba? There must have been trade, political and diplomatic relations between her homeland, and the Israelites, before she decided to visit King Solomon. That is what I think anyway.

ScotsReferendum:



Was Sarah a fair skin woman as recorded by the bible.?

Yes or No


To me, the Igbos are maintaining the real Jewish color and they are neither black nor white


Remember that the Arabs were birthed by Abraham also

ScotsReferendum:
It is no doubt that we are Hebrews but I want to make it clear to Op that the Igbos aren't pure blacks neither are they pure whites


Igbos are neither pure blacks nor pure white


So saying that the Hebrews are black is wrong and saying that they are white is wrong


Igbos are in between


Check out the complexion of Nnamdi Kanu and most natural Igbo women if you want to have a view of the true colour of Jesus as at then.

laudate:

Actually, those people depicted in those artworks are likely to be Ethiopians, rather than ancestors of the current Nd'Igbo, going by some of the earliest historical records on relationships that existed between Ethiopians and the Jews. Remember the story of the Queen of Sheba? There must have been trade, political and diplomatic relations between her homeland, and the Israelites, before she decided to visit King Solomon. That is what I think anyway.

laudate:

Very funny..! But what about the Igbos that look like Charles Soludo?

ScotsReferendum:



I know Awolowo free education was substandard

Don't you know the difference between many and all


Many and not all your Igbo friends are fair skin people

wickyyolo:
If igbos can believe this, I won't blame almajiris for joining book haram to kill for 72virgins

Rossikki:


Do you realise that over 1 million Jews fled into Africa after the fall of Jerusalem?

This was over 2000 years ago! Calculate that population up till today. We are talking hundreds of millions of black Africans today, not just Igbos, are descended from the Israelites. There are ancient European maps that refer to the West African sub-region as the ''Land of Judah''.

Let me refer you to the book of Deuteronomy. Which race do you think is being referred to here, knowing what you know about world history?

It is the Negro race of ancient Jews and their future descendants. read it very carefully.


DEUTERONOMY 28

Blessings for Obedience

28 If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God:

3 You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the country.

4 The fruit of your womb will be blessed, and the crops of your land and the young of your livestock—the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

5 Your basket and your kneading trough will be blessed.

6 You will be blessed when you come in and blessed when you go out.

7 The Lord will grant that the enemies who rise up against you will be defeated before you. They will come at you from one direction but flee from you in seven.

8 The Lord will send a blessing on your barns and on everything you put your hand to. The Lord your God will bless you in the land he is giving you.

9 The Lord will establish you as his holy people, as he promised you on oath, if you keep the commands of the Lord your God and walk in obedience to him. 10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they will fear you. 11 The Lord will grant you abundant prosperity—in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your ground—in the land he swore to your ancestors to give you.

12 The Lord will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands. You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. 13 The Lord will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the Lord your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom. 14 Do not turn aside from any of the commands I give you today, to the right or to the left, following other gods and serving them.




Curses for Disobedience

15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:

16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.

17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.

18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.

20 The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.[a] 21 The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish. 23 The sky over your head will be bronze, the ground beneath you iron. 24 The Lord will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed.

25 The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth. 26 Your carcasses will be food for all the birds and the wild animals, and there will be no one to frighten them away. 27 The Lord will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured. 28 The Lord will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind. 29 At midday you will grope about like a blind person in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you.

30 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. 31 Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. 32 Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand. 33 A people that you do not know will eat what your land and labor produce, and you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. 34 The sights you see will drive you mad. 35 The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head.

36 The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone. 37 You will become a thing of horror, a byword and an object of ridicule among all the peoples where the Lord will drive you.

38 You will sow much seed in the field but you will harvest little, because locusts will devour it. 39 You will plant vineyards and cultivate them but you will not drink the wine or gather the grapes, because worms will eat them. 40 You will have olive trees throughout your country but you will not use the oil, because the olives will drop off. 41 You will have sons and daughters but you will not keep them, because they will go into captivity. 42 Swarms of locusts will take over all your trees and the crops of your land.

43 The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. 44 They will lend to you, but you will not lend to them. They will be the head, but you will be the tail.

45 All these curses will come on you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the Lord your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you. 46 They will be a sign and a wonder to you and your descendants forever. 47 Because you did not serve the Lord your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity, 48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in unclothedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the Lord sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.

49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or olive oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the Lord your God is giving you.

53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For in her dire need she intends to eat them secretly because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of your cities.

58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the Lord your God— 59 the Lord will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring on you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The Lord will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the Lord your God. 63 Just as it pleased the Lord to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.

64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy [ie redeem] you.

Rossikki:


Anyone who reads the above and is still asking who the ancient Jews were, needs a refund on their education.

greenmonk:

If arabs are the children of Abraham who are the ismaelites who bought joseph or you are telling me that between Abraham and jacob the ismaelites have occupied the whole of arabia. Babylon was already in existence by the time of abraham or you forgot that abraham came to canaan from somewhere.
In your quest to come from israel you forgot that the black race was already in existence before the birth of jacob.

Rossikki:


How does it relate to this?

ScotsReferendum:



So you are doubting the bible


Abraham gave birth to Ishmael and 13years later Isaac.

Isaac gave birth to Esau and Jacob


Jacob had a family of about 50 as of when Joseph was sold into slavery and that family was 70 in number 30years later when they joined Joseph in Egypt


So what I am saying is that, if Jacob could have about 50 children, how many do you think Ishmael's descendants were as of the time Joseph was sold into slavery


Don't forget that Ishmael married many wives and his descendants also married many wives unlike Isaac his half younger brother who only married one wife(Rebecca)


In conclusion

Ishmael beget many children who beget many children who beget many children

Ishmael descendants were more than that of Isaac because he married many wives and his descendants married early and also many wives.



By ancient standard

Isaac married late

Jacob married late

Joseph married late



In those days, male children marry at the age of as young as 15-20years


Go to the bible to find out the age the age the descendants of Isaac got married including Isaac

Rossikki:
Linguistic Similarities Between Igbo and Hebrew

Excerpts from research


1) Hebrew word for Camp - Sukkat

Igbo word for Camp - Nsukka


2) ''The dependent clause 'sema Dawid' meaning from the 'line of David' is Igbo. The word 'sema' is an exercised Hebrew version of the more popular Igbo 'si ama David' meaning from the 'line of David' or from the 'booth of David' or from the 'Villagesquare of David'.''

3) ''Since the day I came across two Hebrew words; 'aru' and 'arusi', I don't think I had a moment's rest without satisfying my curiosity. What does 'aru' and 'arusi' mean, I asked, and I was told that 'aru' means 'evil' or 'forbidden' and 'arusi' means 'idol' in Hebrew. Holy Moses! I said, what did I just hear? Did I hear these people speak Igbo or Hebrew or were they teasing my intellectual curiosity?''

4) "As such words that we hear today in Hebrew are things that may not have any useful meaning in some ages past. For instance, the Hebrew word 'Judah' does not appear in anything in ancient Jewish literature. How ancient, is a matter of emelioration, since we are certain that J in current history of letters is a very recent acquisition. In older Hebrew literature, we might have Yuda and Uda for current Judah, which am told simply means 'loud praise'. Now this is still Hebrew language unless am mistaken, since 'Uda' in Igbo language is nothing but 'loud praise', in fact Uda is a short version of Olu-uda in some part of Igbo meaning 'loud praise', which is also Ehu-Uda. Now in Genesis we learn after the birth of Judah, that his mother exclaimed that "this time I will praise God".

The Jews of today her names like Ehud, and some of them think they are the only ones with the name. There is in Igbo, the name Ehude meaning the 'popular one'. There is Ehuvad in Hebrew, and in Igbo we have Ehumadu meaning "the great one". The Jews have Ude as a name, it is all good since we know Ude is an Igbo name, meaning 'great story' or a good 'annunciation'. The Jews have Agbai which Agbarus in Greek or Agabus, so does the Igbos have Agba and Agbai as a family name. The Jews have Enude and sometimes Enud, and Igbos have Enude meaning the same thing as Ude...only a louder version of 'praise' . The Jewish version of the name Gabriel is Agaba or Gaba, and there is no mistake in the first, it is very much a Igbo name although the meaning is now lost."

5) The Jews speak of 'Bayit' as house and the Igbos call 'Ebayi' or 'Bayi' 'our home'. The Jews call thier first market of the year which is in September and October of Western Calender Ekkepparra, and in Igbo Ekkeakpra is the first market of the Harmattan season usually October. The market last till December.

http://iroabuchi..co.uk/2009/01/relationship-between-hebrew-and-igbo.html

greenmonk:

Because ismael had many children the people from where abram came from became impotent so that all those left in that region became children of ismael.

ScotsReferendum:



Yes it is related


If Sarah is fair skin, how come her descendants are black.?

Are you saying that Abraham is black.?


Use your logically mind

ScotsReferendum:



Pat Utomi is also fair skin


Many of your Igbo friends are also fair skins

newbornmacho:

Just like that?
Well there is circumstantial evidence that doesn't quite neatly fit in to your theory: we know that several allusions to body parts were made in the scriptures that suggest a different truth. Absalom's hair was said to have been entangled with tree foliage... That suggests a hair type not distinctly negroid. Paul mentioned that long hair was a woman's glory, the usage doesn't sound like thick afro hair. There was a certain Simeon the Niger in the book of acts, probably indicating that black skin wasn't quite the norm. Again I think it was Jeremiah 13.23 that asked can the Ethiopian change his skin?
That's not to deny that there's merit in your argument but Depending on how far back in time you want to go,
Archaeological evidence may be telling a different story.http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-israel/the-only-ancient-jewish-hair-ever-found/
What do you think ?

greenmonk:

You should also know that Josephs brothers were unable to differeciate him from egyptians and egyptians were black as also supported by the encounter of moses with the daughters of jethro.
You people behave as if the world started with israel but forgot that when the family of jacob as you stated were less than hundred egypt was already a kingdom stretching from the present egypt to nubia, i.e east africa.
So whether you like it or not the jews were black as were the egyptians.

Omoluabi16:
just like many fulani like zahra buhari, and yorubas like tania omotayo. Each tribe has fair and dark skinned people.

Rossikki:


The Jews were blacks. In fact, studies show that the region known as the middle east was entirely, or almost entirely populated by black people in antiquity. The Egyptians were blacks. Arabs came about much later on as a result of interbreeding between white European invaders/settlers and the original black settler population of the Middle East.

ScotsReferendum:



They could not recognize him because he wore an Egyptian mask.

ScotsReferendum:



Fulanis are not Negros but Berbers

Don't mistaken them for black people. They are from North Africa.

Most Yorubas are black like Charcoal

Those fair skin Yorubas you see are descendants of Fulani women that were married by Yoruba men when the Fulanis were migrating all around Oyo empire 100-200years before the betrayal by Afonja.

Between Yorubas and Igbos who have a higher number of fair skin people.?

Omoluabi16:
just like many fulani like zahra buhari, and yorubas like tania omotayo. Each tribe has fair and dark skinned people.

ScotsReferendum:



You don't have an argument


Jacob and his family were 70 in number when they entered Egypt after 430years their number increased to 600,000males and millions of women and children.


If in 430 years Jacob family could explode to that number, what do you think happened to the population of Ishmael's descendants who married earlier and more wives than Isaac descendants.


Use your brain or are you are Muslim who doubt's the bible

newbornmacho:

Just like that?
Well there is circumstantial evidence that doesn't quite neatly fit in to your theory: we know that several allusions to body parts were made in the scriptures that suggest a different truth. Absalom's hair was said to have been entangled (apparently curly hair...depicts negro) with tree foliage ( leaves or branches on which they grow) [ It's common sense that a curly or thick hair and not straight strands will get caught in tiny branches]... [s]That suggests a hair type not distinctly negroid.[/s] Paul mentioned that long hair was a woman's glory, the usage doesn't sound like thick afro hair ( Obviously meant it's nt expected of a man to keep long hair). There was a certain Simeon the Niger in the book of acts, probably indicating that black skin wasn't quite the norm. Again I think it was Jeremiah 13.23 that asked can the Ethiopian change his skin?
That's not to deny that there's merit in your argument but Depending on how far back in time you want to go,
Archaeological evidence may be telling a different story.http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-israel/the-only-ancient-jewish-hair-ever-found/
What do you think ?