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Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by xpool(m): 10:07pm On Sep 13, 2017
kingxsamz:
meanwhile Nnamdi dey house dey chop...
...
Just as George Bush dey house dey chop wen American citizens dey fight war.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by thoth: 10:28pm On Sep 13, 2017
Hope you can now see why i told you buhari is a curse ??
The Northern Nigerians are about to witness the most evil plot in the history of Africa.
GenBuhari:
Who is killing who?
One officer killed
No IPOD killed.

Why did that imperialists stooge Osinbajo release Kanu?

A: The Biafran agitation is part of imperialist conspiracy to breakup Nigeria.

Kanu & NAss leadership are all part of the same imperialist conspiracy with Osinbajo.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Daboomb: 10:40pm On Sep 13, 2017
Throwback:


Do you know that Boko haram lead by a living mohammed Yusuf almost took over power in a Northern state and unleashed mayhem and were killing Christians all over the city for 2 solid days before the police with army could suppress them?

Do you know that many Christians were captured alive by boko haram and were delivered to the stronghold of Mohammed Yusuf in the city. They were subsequently executed after forcing them to renounce their faith.

When the Soldiers finally caught him, he had taken many lives. Yet the soldiers still handed him to the police alive, before he was killed.

A monster was killed. A monster who had no human rights. Yet an Igbo man trying to win an argument says the government turned boko haram towards violence?

All the historical facts I have detailed above sounds to you like boko haram was a lovely country club pressure group?

Shame on you.


These IPOB miscreants will use ANYTHING, no matter how horrible, to justify their evil position.
To them, lying, falsehood, manipulation of information, propaganda and outright falsification of events, is all part of how to get Biafra actualised.

Once it suits their purpose, it is all good.

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Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Daboomb: 10:43pm On Sep 13, 2017
lonecatt:
you are not yet ready, when you defeat boko haram we will know your capabilities for now you are all cowards shooting at unharmed people.

They should remember to bringtheir arms along, next time they chose to confront the law enforcement authorities. grin grin

With all those weapons you guys have been boasting about while Buahri was in London, l am sure it is not because you lack weapons, you are just too stupid to remember to take it along when you want to attack the Army! grin grin

Iranu radarada

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Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Daboomb: 10:48pm On Sep 13, 2017
NafeesaAA:
One of the Victim of IPOB madness

These Igbos are Terrorist group and should be dealt with as such.

I hope ICC, UN, HRW, World bank, FIFA and other international agencies are seeing this now because Govt will not fold its hand and watch these cannibals kill other Nigerians.
undecided
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Daboomb: 10:50pm On Sep 13, 2017
Princewell2012:


forget about that trash they put up there. They were just trying to paint Kanu and IPob a violence group. But God pass them.

Shuttap there you son of a cannibal.
You are here defending evil and next minute you wil be using God's name in vain.

That man was matchetted to death by your blood-thirsty Igbos in Rivers State.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by GhanaMustGoo: 10:56pm On Sep 13, 2017
VargasVee:



I'm gradually losing hope that Nigeria will get any better. Who exactly are the ones causing the unrest? Were the secessionists going around terrorizing people?

Since the Fulani herdsmen has been ravaging communities with all inhumane vices, what exactly has the government done about the communities affected?

The president was on TV hours ago commending secessionists from another nation and yet he deployed forces that are needed somewhere else to a place irrelevant just to confirm the animosity towards Igbos. Now all they're trying to do is put a label on IPOB as a violent group.

Just because of a proposed election boycott, the FG is already pissing in their pants and doing sth stupid.

Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa called Nigeria a 1914 mistake, late Chief Awolowo also said Nigeria is a mere Geopraghical expression

We know we're all different but if you can't keep your bigotry in check then it's only best you let Igbos be on their own.

Other peoples are trying to come together. We are lucky we are already put together yet we are trying to mess it up.
Do you realise Nigeria would have been humanly impossible to come up with? IMPOSSIBLE!
You dont just throw away such a wonder.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Nobody: 10:58pm On Sep 13, 2017
Buhari is curse? How?
thoth:
Hope you can now see why i told you buhari is a curse ??
The Northern Nigerians are about to witness the most evil plot in the history of Africa.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by NtoAkwaIbom(m): 11:12pm On Sep 13, 2017
NNAMDI KANU HAS GIVEN ME REASONS TO SAY "THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUHARI"

Written by Akintunde Adeyemo (USA).

You can't send police officers to quench a quasi-military camp, which is maintained by Nnamdi Kanu, who has aggressively vowed to tear apart a sovereign nation, Nigeria. Kanu made a serious mistake by parading a ragtag army; especially when you have a former General as the president, that was disrespectful.

I lived in Nigeria for more than two decades, Nigerian soldiers don't like to be disrespected; in fact, from working with soldiers in the United States (Michigan National Guard, Joint Forces Headquarters), I can tell you that, generally, soldiers don't like to be disrespected.

If someone, a civilian for that matter, maintains and parades militants (wearing a military uniform), he should not expect the government to roll in with police officers and patrol vans; he should reasonably expect army tanks.

Pursuant to the 1949 Geneva Conventions Article 3, your status changes once you start wearing an army uniform, for you have become an enemy combatant: A recognized army (the Nigerian Army, in this case) can use force to neutralize you and your fellow militants.

Let’s gaze into history here: When the 1791 "Whiskey Rebellion" happened in the United States, spearheaded by some civilians, President George Washington did not send in police officers, he brought in military tanks to quench the rebellion.

In the United States, when violence escalates, a governor, pursuant to Title 32 of the United States Code, can summon the army and their tanks to the street (didn’t you watch CNN at the height of the “Black Lives Matter movement;” didn’t you see numerous armoured personnel carrier (APC) on the street)?

Let's stop pretentiously invoking the violation of the rule of law, especially if you don't understand the rule of law and the rule of engagement. A military incursion, or rolling of tanks, into a street, in order to clear the illusion of outlaws, like Nnamdi and his cohorts, is not a violation of the rule of law, but an enforcement of the rule of law.

If Kanu is scared of a small deployment of soldiers, will he chicken out when battalions are deployed? To his supporters, we told you this: secession is not won on Facebook. Continue arguing about the violation of the rule. Listen, when hostility begins, the rule of law is suspended or amended. I hope we won't get there. Start listening.

Please, feel free to share!
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by dirtyhokage(m): 11:12pm On Sep 13, 2017
nkwuocha:
What is an Hausa commissioner of police doing in Rivers state?


Any Hausa commissioner of police in SS/SE states are northern stooges,they are there to cause more problems, to study our weaknesses. We don't want them!
Go and do the drafting naw...since you know better
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by dirtyhokage(m): 11:20pm On Sep 13, 2017
Sorry for the ones caught....naso their story take finish ooo,you guys have eyes but chose to be selectively blind,brains but can't think.....Kanu that is not fighting for his friends he left in prison is the same kanu you guys are now killing for? And his bank account is there smiling why your parents are crying...what a pity, may b president of north Korea might help you people since the Jews rejected you
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by dirtyhokage(m): 11:23pm On Sep 13, 2017
lonecatt:
you are not yet ready, when you defeat boko haram we will know your capabilities for now you are all cowards shooting at unharmed people.
Shooting at "unharmed people"....which school you grad from?
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Ikechuob: 11:31pm On Sep 13, 2017
Throwback:


Do you know that Boko haram lead by a living mohammed Yusuf almost took over power in a Northern state and unleashed mayhem and were killing Christians all over the city for 2 solid days before the police with army could suppress them?

Do you know that many Christians were captured alive by boko haram and were delivered to the stronghold of Mohammed Yusuf in the city. They were subsequently executed after forcing them to renounce their faith.

When the Soldiers finally caught him, he had taken many lives. Yet the soldiers still handed him to the police alive, before he was killed.

A monster was killed. A monster who had no human rights. Yet an Igbo man trying to win an argument says the government turned boko haram towards violence?

All the historical facts I have detailed above sounds to you like boko haram was a lovely country club pressure group?

Shame on you.


No i did not know that. Since it's such a historical facts, please do provide evidence to back up your story or should I just take your word for it.

But while I'm at it

Here's the chronology of what happened

Around 13 years ago, according to the United States Institute of Peace, the sect that became known as Boko Haram was a small, isolated, peaceful community dedicated to practicing strict Islamic Shariah law. In 2002, a group of extremist Muslim youths who worshipped at the Alhaji Muhammadu Ndimi Mosque in Maiduguri, or the capital of Borno state in northeast Nigeria, decided to depart from Nigerian society and the corruption they saw there and embark on a religious pilgrimage modeled after the Prophet Muhammad’s journey from Mecca to Medina. They traveled to Kanama, near the border with Niger, to create their separatist commune. Mohammed Ali was their leader, and he called upon the group to follow “true” Islamic law.


Even after Nigerian security forces in 2003 killed the majority of Boko Haram’s members over fishing rights in a local pond, the group didn’t follow up with any violent reprisals. Police killed most of its 70 members—including Mohammed Ali—in the 2003 episode, but the group managed to reconstruct itself.

The few survivors returned to Maiduguri. They were led by a young cleric named Mohammed Yusuf, who established a mosque for the group. The community offered shelter to refugees from neighboring wars in Chad, opportunities for young jobless Nigerians, and food and resources for anyone who wanted to live there. Authorities left them alone and the group operated its own governing cabinet, large farm, and police force, which upheld the community’s strict religious law.

“Although from the outset, the sect’s mission was to impose the Shari’a on Nigeria, the leadership went about its preaching peacefully,” Simeon H.O. Aloziuwa wrote in the Costa Rica-based University for Peace’s Peace and Conflict Review in 2012. A report produced by the European Parliament also described Boko Haram as “originally a peaceful Islamist movement.”

Peaceful Democracy Ambassadors, a Nigerian group committed to human rights and peace, describe Mohammed Yusuf as “a charismatic young cleric” who founded Boko Haram “as part of his push for a pure Islamic state in Nigeria.” Though it’s not certain where the group received its money during its first few years, some experts believe that Yusuf received donations from Salafist contacts in Saudi Arabia or wealthy northern Nigerians. One Boko Haram donor who spoke with the United States Institute of Peace claimed it was part of his responsibility as a good Muslim to give money to charity—in this case, Boko Haram.

There is some disagreement about when exactly the group’s turn toward violence began. Many experts believe that in 2007, Mohammed Yusuf may have ordered the death of a prominent cleric who had criticized the group.


When the group again made headlines in 2009, it was for clashes with the police after an argument about traffic regulations. Then Boko Haram threats escalated; Yusuf released viral videos speaking out against the police, which attracted a large audience in Nigeria. The government and police both tried to crack down even more aggressively on the group, arresting hundreds. Boko Haram attacked multiple police stations. When the authorities regained control of Maiduguri, they reportedly began executing hundreds of Boko Haram members.

A local journalist told a researcher at the United States Institute of Peace that police likely “disappeared” and executed over a hundred local imams and rulers, or suspected sympathizers with Boko Haram. Yusuf, the Boko Haram leader, was allegedly arrested by the army on the street and handed over to police—where he was executed within hours, according the United States Institute of Peace. The police claim he was killed while trying to run away after being interrogated. Regardless, Yusuf’s death marked another transition. The remaining members of Boko Haram fled, their locations potentially including radical camps from Algeria to Mali, only to return in 2010 more violent than ever before.

Shehu Sani, the president of the Civil Rights Congress in Nigeria, spoke with PBS’s Frontline about his assessment of Boko Haram’s turning point, which differs slightly from other research:

The [2009] killing of Mohammed Yusuf was a result of a security traffic incident. And as a result, the subsequent killing of hundreds of members of the group [after] a simple traffic conflict between the group and the police became the ignition that spiraled into the violence and bloodshed that we have been suffering the last three to four years. So we had a movement that was peaceful and that was crushed by the Nigerian army, Nigerian police, and later they went underground and became more monstrous.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/was-boko-haram-peaceful-group-violence/

But do please provide a link of your so called "historical facts". I'm sure you know more than several, including people who monitored their activities, have written about them.


From the words of an ambassador, a member of the EU parliament, civil rights congress of your own nation and a professor.... Boko haram was as the EU parliament stated "peaceful Islamic movement" which your own government stupidly turned violent in 2009

Do please back up ur historical facts up with links. Thanks
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by nwosu1982: 11:42pm On Sep 13, 2017
masterpolyglot:
The biggest mistake made by the FG was to release Nnamdi Kanu. He will definitely be re-arrested and this time around sentenced to life imprisonment or exiled for treason and inciting nationwide violence.

The Ipob guys are so bold to kill a policeman in Rivers, injure a soldier in Abia and attack innocent hausas who are just trying to make a living.

The Biafra they are agitating for is a lost cause as Igbos are now stakeholders with properties in all parts of Nigeria, gone are the days when Igbos majorly reside in the east. The devil is just trying to use Nnamdi Kanu as a tool for nationwide destabilization, but he alone will bear the brunt. Pride comes before downfall, this time around he won't smell freedom.

I don't blame u bcoz u r drunk & foolish. Ur family will never have rest , calamity will fall on ur family for speaking evil against the Igbos.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by jessywake(f): 11:47pm On Sep 13, 2017
masterpolyglot:
The biggest mistake made by the FG was to release Nnamdi Kanu. He will definitely be re-arrested and this time around sentenced to life imprisonment or exiled for treason and inciting nationwide violence.

The Ipob guys are so bold to kill a policeman in Rivers, injure a soldier in Abia and attack innocent hausas who are just trying to make a living.

The Biafra they are agitating for is a lost cause as Igbos are now stakeholders with properties in all parts of Nigeria, gone are the days when Igbos majorly reside in the east. The devil is just trying to use Nnamdi Kanu as a tool for nationwide destabilization, but he alone will bear the brunt. Pride comes before downfall, this time around he won't smell freedom.

he is greather than your FG if I were u I will go first and pray for my FG's health
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by edupedia: 11:51pm On Sep 13, 2017
smartty68:
This is the time that THERE'LL be lots of blackmail against the IPOB. Just passing sha
.....so ya teacher no tell u the meaning of "blackmail"... he too must be made to swim inside mud for being so useless...
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by stagamagadasca(f): 12:30am On Sep 14, 2017
kingxsamz:
meanwhile Nnamdi dey house dey chop...
...
mean while d government are looting and mind you they are not fighting for Nnamdi..der fighting for what dy believe
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by NobleAjare(m): 12:39am On Sep 14, 2017
Show Us pictures Mr Commisionthief
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Nobody: 2:19am On Sep 14, 2017
nwosu1982:
I don't blame u bcoz u r drunk & foolish. Ur family will never have rest , calamity will fall on ur family for speaking evil against the Igbos.

It is ur portion. Keep cursing yourself. Animal.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by notttty(m): 2:35am On Sep 14, 2017
When people said the FG made a mistske in releasing kanu i laugh alot cos they dont know the politics behind it. Lemme explain. Kanu was let go and the other two kept in kuje so that he can cause all this trouble to enable the federal govt have a justifyable reason to charge him for treason proper. The idiot kanu took the bait. I thought he was wiser but he actually is the finest albino slowpoke I have seen in a long time. Now the charges that will be read to him will be unbailable. The govt is just starting and the fools are all here writing poem already
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by amInigerian: 3:17am On Sep 14, 2017
VargasVee:



I'm gradually losing hope that Nigeria will get any better. Who exactly are the ones causing the unrest? Were the secessionists going around terrorizing people?

Since the Fulani herdsmen has been ravaging communities with all inhumane vices, what exactly has the government done about the communities affected?

The president was on TV hours ago commending secessionists from another nation and yet he deployed forces that are needed somewhere else to a place irrelevant just to confirm the animosity towards Igbos. Now all they're trying to do is put a label on IPOB as a violent group.

Just because of a proposed election boycott, the FG is already pissing in their pants and doing sth stupid.

Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa called Nigeria a 1914 mistake, late Chief Awolowo also said Nigeria is a mere Geopraghical expression

We know we're all different but if you can't keep your bigotry in check then it's only best you let Igbos be on their own.
The ipob people did not need to start killing northerners for no reason. What can they give as reason for the attacks they sprung up on northerners on Teusday?

They should have let those they consider their opponents be wrong. Now what can they say is the reason for killing northerners in Oyigbo in PH?

Can't they see that with their own hands, they are destroying their claims (and the claims of sympathizers) that they are peaceful.

I have not been in support of many things with this ipob movement but I also believed that it reveals the thoughts of PMB to deploy soldiers to check ipob and arrest unarmed ipob but do nothing in response to senseless fulani killings.

When they tell us tomorrow that ipob are a violent group, with this occurrence now, how can we tell them that they are not?
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by bamite(m): 3:25am On Sep 14, 2017
Amarabae:
My peaceful oyigbo!
No mosque was burnt and no hausa was killed,
where are the rumour mongers?
It's such a shame you people have lost your senses.

I wonder how you'd feel if someone says this same thing if it were your brother that was killed in cold blood
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by femmy2010(m): 5:56am On Sep 14, 2017
nkwuocha:
What is an Hausa commissioner of police doing in Rivers state?


Any Hausa commissioner of police in SS/SE states are northern stooges,they are there to cause more problems, to study our weaknesses. We don't want them!

An Igbo Governor (Imo State ) is an Hausa Stooge too i guess .
Lets set aside bias and work on our differences .
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Menzy86(m): 6:12am On Sep 14, 2017
nkwuocha:
What is an Hausa commissioner of police doing in Rivers state?


Any Hausa commissioner of police in SS/SE states are northern stooges,they are there to cause more problems, to study our weaknesses. We don't want them!
pls try finding out the ethnicity of the CP of Borno State. Get back to me after you have.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Ahmedhussain3463: 7:33am On Sep 14, 2017
nkwuocha:


What's an abokki commissioner of police doing in Rivers state?
becos is a nigerian and the current nigerian constitution warrant that,dont forget rivers state is part of the federating unit.are u ok
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by introvertedsoul: 7:41am On Sep 14, 2017
NafeesaAA:
One of the Victim of IPOB madness

Wow! This is serious.
Are you sure of this?
How did you get those pics?
You took them yourself?
I think its fake.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by introvertedsoul: 7:51am On Sep 14, 2017
NafeesaAA:
One of the Victim of IPOB madness

You bloody liar!
Reply me now. . .
Or should I just go ahead and expose your lies?
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by ZionJay(m): 8:14am On Sep 14, 2017
nkwuocha:
What is an Hausa commissioner of police doing in Rivers state?


Any Hausa commissioner of police in SS/SE states are northern stooges,they are there to cause more problems, to study our weaknesses. We don't want them!

Your brain is not working
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Nobody: 10:12am On Sep 14, 2017
jessywake:
he is greather than your FG if I were u I will go first and pray for my FG's health

You are a m0r0n and you don't value the lives of those in the south east. Keep inciting violence, keep hailing Nnamdi Kanu.
Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by Nobody: 10:13am On Sep 14, 2017
masterpolyglot:
The biggest mistake made by the FG was to release Nnamdi Kanu. He will definitely be re-arrested and this time around sentenced to life imprisonment or exiled for treason and inciting nationwide violence.

The Ipob guys are so bold to kill a policeman in Rivers, injure a soldier in Abia and attack innocent hausas who are just trying to make a living.

The Biafra they are agitating for is a lost cause as Igbos are now stakeholders with properties in all parts of Nigeria, gone are the days when Igbos majorly reside in the east. The devil is just trying to use Nnamdi Kanu as a tool for nationwide destabilization, but he alone will bear the brunt. Pride comes before downfall, this time around he won't smell freedom.


You still don't understand, do you? You're yet to understand that not everyone cares about "property".

A time will come when a man will say to himself, "to hell with wealth. I have found a higher calling." Believe me you don't want to deal with such a man. Osama Bin Laden is a case in point. And many others.

See the picture below for a tweet I grabbed. Isn't high time Africans learn that multi-culti is not for us? Britain called a meeting. They have left. Still the other parties refuse to end the meeting. Meeting that cannot end is that one meeting? Referendum is not in the constitution, then put it there since there is provision for change of law in the constitution.

Nowhere in the world is a marital union held to be "non-negotiable". Not in Rome. Not in Mecca. Not in Washington. Yet someone will call a union of millions "non-negotiable." Does that show sanity?

Years ago Gowon pronounced "no victor, no vanquished." And that was it. 50 years later we've come a full 360. Now its "non-negotiable". Perhaps it may happen that Nigeria will persist. Only to come back a full circle.

Will the black man ever learn that he just cannot live with difference? Better neighbours with mutual respect than brothers in perpetual hostility.

Re: Rivers Clash: 32 IPOB Members Arrested, 1 Officer Killed And 2 Police Vans Burnt by just4sola: 10:15am On Sep 14, 2017
nkwuocha:
What is an Hausa commissioner of police doing in Rivers state?


Any Hausa commissioner of police in SS/SE states are northern stooges,they are there to cause more problems, to study our weaknesses. We don't want them!

Chest beating continues... you people are pathetic, with zero brain for logic

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