shadeyinka:

Amen!
That's my prayers for her. Her background in the knowledge of Christ is so weak that easily she kaputs under the strain of challenges and of course, there was an influence that convinced her that Jesus is not the way.

I have asked her to answer questions that will compel her to think, for now she is ignoring them. I pray God open her eyes to see before it is too late.

He who puts his hands on the plow and turns back is both worthy of Me says the Lord Jesus. Her major problem is understanding Trinity. She sees Jesus as a creation rather than the creator manifesting Himself in love. He came to His own, but His own rejected Him...

asalimpo:


This is why christians need to read - not just the bible but good christian books on pertinent matters -.
From my experience, most christians are mentally lazy and intellectually sloppy. They just want to cast their problems on one person and take in any thing they are told. Next, when they see no result they begin blaming God. There's so much phoniness in traditional christianity.

analice107:

Pls ignore him completely.

analice107:

He is a troll with nothing reasonable to say.

hopefulLandlord:


if being "reasonable" means using sexual slurs, hurling invectives, diatribes, insulting people's parents, dirty dig and other form of underhanded and below the belt tactics, then I have to admit I'm not only unreasonable but I also never want to be reasonable till I die

analice107:

Brother, that woman's hands was never in the plough to begin with. What does it mean to hold unto a plough? It means service. Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and it's righteousness..., anyone who does this is the one who had his/her in the plough, then if he looks back...
But, Vanessa7 never served but wanted to be SERVED. If she had understood that the Kingdom of God is first service, then she'd know what being a Christian is.

shadeyinka:


I think her problem is much more fundermental. It has to do with Relationship (Sonship of God). Is it possible for me to deny my parent even if someone brings a verified DNA evidence that OBJ and Madam Tinubu are my biological parents. Would I abandon the ones who through thick and thin nursed me and gave me education? NO!

Religion kills. Jesus did not come to build a religion, He came for us to have a relationship with the Father.

I cringe that one can be active doing church religion and not know Christ.

analice107:

Ignored.

analice107:

She just moved from one religious traditions to another. Sad.

shadeyinka:


Deception can only be exposed from comparing the details. I am not sure she want to do this.

hopefulLandlord:


and I've always told you its your prerogative but its none of your business if others don't tow your line, not everyone here is "Reasonable" like you

asalimpo:
@umarshek,
Islamists have tried desperately to discredit Christianity and the Scriptures.
You say God created man in His own image,then contradicts Himself by asking to whom will you liken me?
Are you so dumb that you can't see the context of the question?
God created man in His own image = Man, has a part of him that is similar to God
To whom will you liken me = Who in might and capability (which being has properties and attributes ) that equals or surpasses God?
Do you see the context? Or will you pretend to be blind? In another part, God asks, "Is anything too hard for Me (God ) to do? Is the arm of the Lord shortened?"

Similar questions like these are posed everyday in real life.

Quesions facing all men involving sin, the fallen state of the world and the cure for sin are only best addressed in the bible.
Jesus makes claims , no other being has made- go figure.

analice107:

You just honoured a fool with a response, he doesn't deserve it.

People like that, just ignore them.

umarsheks6:
is that what bible of nowadays teaches u to do (to call people fools on telling d truth)
just bcoz u have no answers to der questions




SUBHANALLAH

analice107:

You mean a slave of Allah the great Deceiver can speak the truth? Are you kidding?

umarsheks6:

INNALLI LAAHI WAINA ILLAIHI RAGI'UN (frm Allah we all came a to him we'll all return to)
yes I am a slave of ALLAH
ur aggression alone has shown u r not on d right path
















I rest my case

hopefulLandlord:


I can see my message flew over your head

Scenario 1: A Muslim dumps Islam and becomes a Christian

Muslims then say: He's never a Muslim, just a mosque goer

Christians would say: He's seen the light

Scenario 2: A Christian dumps Christianity and becomes a Muslim

Christian then say: he was never a Christian, just a church goer

Muslims would say: he's seen the light

The bullsheet is very obvious to an observer

The no true Scotsman fallacy makes no sense

Mind you, I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with either of them, just that it reeks of insincerity

Go to http://clergyproject.org read the stories of the members then look them straight in the eye and say that they were never a Christian or they were never a Muslim

analice107:

She has gone all quiet. Lets talk about it, but she has gone ghost

analice107:

Lol. A Terrorist is talking about aggression .

shadeyinka:
...men love darkness rather than light.

umarsheks6:

INNALLI LAAHI WAINA ILLAIHI RAGI'UN (frm Allah we all came a to him we'll all return to)
yes I am a slave of ALLAH
ur aggression alone has shown u r not on d right path

even your soul will remain a slave if you are not careful......















I rest my case

analice107:

Brother, that woman's hands was never in the plough to begin with. What does it mean to hold unto a plough? It means service. Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and it's righteousness..., anyone who does this is the one who had his/her in the plough, then if he looks back...
But, Vanessa7 never served but wanted to be SERVED. If she had understood that the Kingdom of God is first service, then she'd know what being a Christian is.

analice107:

Lol. I have no authority of my own, but when a person comes up with the kind of claims she made here, she shd be prepared for questions. For whatever reason, i'm very nice and gentle on her.

Let me state here that she is a lair. If she was a Christian and was involved in all she said she was involved in, the questions i asked won't take her a minute to answer. Why is she acting like she didn't see them?

What does sanctification means @Vennessa?

Where you sanctified? You were a Committed Christian for 20yrs, were you sanctified?

vannessa7:


I'm sure you never went through my write up to make such claims as you have up there, all of you here castigating me has never gone through anything remotely close to what I've been through yet you are judging me. You Christians are so sure that Muslim's don't serve the same God in the Bible and many of you are trying to bully me into going back but I will say this, I will never go back to Christianity insha Allah, I even shiver to imagine myself going back to what I committed to for 2 decade where I suffered and suffered, Let everyone follow what seems right to them, anyone that is truly interested in my write up will have an open heart and not a pre-conceived notion which they are not ready to change. The purpose of my write up is to let people know the truth about Islam, when Jesus said the kingdom of heaven heaven will be taken from the Jew and given to their neighbour, I think there is only one neighbour the Jew or Isaac had and he is Ishmael, also God will not abandon the offspring of Abraham Ishmael, because the blood of Abraham run in his vein and God also promised him, then I will say no one has any right to just leave one religion for the other without being led, even as a Christian you are not suppose to just up and change church because you feel like without being led, so my right up is not meant to convert anyone to Islam but to enlighten about it, I am going to write some of the revelations I had before making my decision in another time, and for those saying I didn't answer some questions I will say I will not be drawn into any argument because it will still not convince you and the Quran says we should not argue because religion is not by compulsion,

Chubhie:
Jehovah's militants have successfully bullied sister vanessa. You've got to give to them.

benodic:
Anytime I read conversion stories, I always get a good laugh at the reactions that follow. For example, You never had faith, you were never truly a Christian or moslem in your heart, you are a religion prostitute etc.

The fundamental misunderstanding usually comes from people basically not knowing why they are on earth in the first place.

We are Souls sent here to learn and gather experiences as much as possible to enable us achieve spiritual maturity.

This education is under the guidance of the Holy Spirit and Soul will be gradually guided from one level of consciousness to the next. At each stage, you will be guided to the Religion that bests fits your State of Consciousness.

The religion does not matter, what matters is your state of consciousness. What is it that you need to grow spiritually at that point in time. If it is Christianity or Islam or Hinduism or Buddhaism or Shintoism or even ECKANKAR. The Holy Spirit will guide you to that Religion.

That is why it is very important to follow your inner guidance and don't bother about what people may say.

We in ECKANKAR, understand this principle and that is why we don't bother converting people or coercing any one to join any religion or even getting angry or annoyed that someone left for another religion.

So keep to your present faith, always focus on the Holy Spirit and of course always keep an open heart and an open mind. You will never lose your way.

asalimpo:

The problem you have, is that you are strongly deluded and dont know it.
You supplant the Bible with with your own ideas?
What dyu mean - Christianity cannot handle them? - Is there any where in the scriptures saying that God's word failed? Jesus Christ said "Go ye into the world and preach the gospel to every creature " , every means the entire world,including Asia! Which asian devil will counter the light of God's word? So it is clear that God intended for the gospel to be preached in he whole world to reach the entire ends of the earth.
Why God chose not to send paul is best known to Him, bu His original plan doesnt change.
When you want to state something about the Scriptures, make your points with scriptures not your opinions.
So God couldnt use Christianity,he had to use islam, are u sane or logical saying that nonsense?
Would a sane God create to opposing religions and use them to accomplish His objectives? If so,then God was using the philistines who worshipped idols, as well as the Isrealites who where their arch enemies.
God was using pharoah as well as moses. God raised goliath to taunt the children of Isreal as well as David who slew him. Clear your head.

analice107:

Religion is not by compulsion, but Muslims are killing people everywhere on earth for not accept Allah as God.

Really?

Let me ask you sister. How did you manage to be a Christian for 20yrs without the Holy Spirit? because, you said you were not sanctified as a Christian because you were demons possessed.

The Holy Spirit gets sealed with our spirits at redemption.
The Holy Spirit is the Sanctifier. No other person can Sanctify you. Sanctification is like cleaning the house for a new occupant to come in.
Without Him, you wouldn't even be able to believe in Jesus. How did you manage without Him pls?

Ephesians:1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Were you redeemed? Can you buy a house and your former landlords still lots over you?

This your story eh? There are too many holes.