Henry120:

Troops get all the equipment they need. From AK's to RPG's, MGL's, AGL's, IFV's, AFV's and more.

It is a properly equipped military.

http://www.beegeagle./2014/08/16/nigerian-forces-well-trained-and-equipped-to-counter-the-boko-haram-threat-olukolade/


Your irresponsible troops in south-africa constantly carry out strikes.

Your military is a low-moraled, HIV ridden, pathetic retirement home.


"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"





"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"



"The air force, for example, has been reduced to being a flying limousine service for African National Congress politicians"


" However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."




Is the SANDF a military?

You are poorly armed. Fact!!!!

MikeZA: 1. What's the standard APC of the Nigerian army? 2. How much is spent on training a single Nigeria soldiers. 3. You'll eat humble pie Henry. 2. APCs protected soldiers from the deadliest battlefield weapons,such as mortars,shells,small arms fire,IEDs,land mines etc

I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


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http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.

Henry120:

True every military flies VVIP, but your Airforce(SAAF) is only funded for VIP, and VVIP trips alone, and get virtually nothing for training, S&R get nothing. Your Defence review shows your military has and would always be hopeless.


He posted photos of nigerian troops backed by Armour and artillery pieces. You don't fight from inside your APC's.


AGL's, MGL's, IFV's, AFV's are not a problem for nigeria. Troops field them in combat, not for some petty little photo-shoot.

1. SAAF 21 squadron is a VIP squadron,but doesn't operate helicopters. So when president and other VIPs get to the airport other helicopter squadron take it from there. FOO...L 2. More than 10 soldiers were seen in those pictures matching beside a single Cobra,meaning some of them are "foot-lized infantry" LOL 3. Old pieces of artillery which South Africa or Israel captured,tested and threw them into museums or use for training. 4. Your army has no IFVs. 5. Show us those AGLs,MGLs but never cause SA stuff will be superior !!!!!!!!

MikeZA: 1. SAAF 21 squadron is a VIP squadron,but doesn't operate helicopters. So when president and other VIPs get to the airport other helicopter squadron take it from there. FOO...L 2. More than 10 soldiers were seen in those pictures matching beside a single Cobra,meaning some of them are "foot-lized infantry" LOL 3. Old pieces of artillery which South Africa or Israel captured,tested and threw them into museums or use for training. 4. Your army has no IFVs. 5. Show us those AGLs,MGLs but never cause SA stuff will be superior !!!!!!!!

Before I forget, south-africa is the murder capital of the world.

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/jun/24/10-world-cities-highest-murder-rates-homicides-in-pictures



Tell me another story.

"they(SAAF) get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition," Maynier said. This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs."


Mapisa-Nqakula stated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.




Interest in Nigeria by international organisations and multinationals has continued to grow despite rising insurgency in the country, U.S-based economic advisory firm, Frontiers Strategy Group, said in a report titled “Frontier Market Sentiment Index”.

The report, issued by the Wall Street Journal, said that out of 11 African countries in a survey conducted by the firm, Nigeria ranked first as the most preferred economy for investment by the multinationals, which included European and American firms.

Nigeria emerged the number one frontier-market economy in Africa in terms of attracting the most attention from European and American multinationals.





http://businessdayonline.com/2014/06/nigeria-is-top-investment-destination-in-africa

Henry120:

I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


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http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.

1. NCOs are old,your army needs to work in that area. Your soldiers run from combat when cause the aren't experienced NCOs to led them,meaning senior officers like Lieutenant Colonel Agu often have to led from the front. 2. Thanks again for spreading the defence review PR work. Foo..l 3. HIV is nothing but virus,it isn't eBola. 4. NO battalion in South Africa has in recent years received training from any foreign country,all we do is hold exercises with them. The SANDF avoids contacts through exercises with the USA or Uk 5. Don't even bring up technology. Your officers can't even read a map. Where's the "cobra C2" systems? NO MIL-STD data links. One day your battalion will attack Abuja thinking it was Gwoza

MikeZA: 1. SAAF 21 squadron is a VIP squadron,but doesn't operate helicopters. So when president and other VIPs get to the airport other helicopter squadron take it from there. FOO...L !

Pathetic SANDF. You think it's by carrying out photo-shoots.

Troop101: how did they drop and pick-up our special force guys during the bush war your MOFO

Even Togo republic can do that ! You Dumbo
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Henry120:

Before I forget, south-africa is the murder capital of the world.

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/jun/24/10-world-cities-highest-murder-rates-homicides-in-pictures



Tell me another story.

"they(SAAF) get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition," Maynier said. This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs."


Mapisa-Nqakula stated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.




Interest in Nigeria by international organisations and multinationals has continued to grow despite rising insurgency in the country, U.S-based economic advisory firm, Frontiers Strategy Group, said in a report titled “Frontier Market Sentiment Index”.

The report, issued by the Wall Street Journal, said that out of 11 African countries in a survey conducted by the firm, Nigeria ranked first as the most preferred economy for investment by the multinationals, which included European and American firms.

Nigeria emerged the number one frontier-market economy in Africa in terms of attracting the most attention from European and American multinationals.





http://businessdayonline.com/2014/06/nigeria-is-top-investment-destination-in-africa

1. No one in SA gives a rat's ar..se about what Lauren and her friends write. 2. Do you know what the minister was talking about? Do you know what "balance" she's talking about? LOL 3. You're now dancing all over the place Mike..ZA making the floor hot for you? You can't answer questions. 4. Our air force and special operation forces medics always perform well,from rescuing hurricane victims,combat search and rescue all over SADC,mounting rescues,sea rescue(Nigerian air force is still to develop that.

MikeZA: 1. NCOs are old,your army needs to work in that area. Your soldiers run from combat when cause the aren't experienced NCOs to led them,meaning senior officers like Lieutenant Colonel Agu often have to led from the front. 2. Thanks again for spreading the defence review PR work. Foo..l 3. HIV is nothing but virus,it isn't eBola. 4. NO battalion in South Africa has in recent years received training from any foreign country,all we do is hold exercises with them. The SANDF avoids contacts through exercises with the USA or Uk 5. Don't even bring up technology. Your officers can't even read a map. Where's the "cobra C2" systems? NO MIL-STD data links. One day your battalion will attack Abuja thinking it was Gwoza

LMAO!!!!

You want to discuss technology you do not have. Pathetic bro. This is a new low coming from you. After conniving with terrorists, you want to go into technology that are non-existent in your HIV defence force.


You should start proving Nigerian soldiers ran away? They combated, and continue to combat the enemy across the borders and into the deserts.

Your security services receive training from the americans and british, they also get hand out equipments from the west. No wonder you guys are massive western a$slickers.


You have no Data links. For how long you're going to continue with this lie?

Henry120:

I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


==============
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.

Which defence review commitee will speak good of any country? Their duty is to criticise

MikeZA: 1. No one in SA gives a rat's ar..se about what Lauren and her friends write.

It doesn't change the fact you are the murder capital of the world.

MikeZA: 2. Do you know what the minister was talking about? Do you know what "balance" she's talking about?

Yes I know what she talking about. She simply saying no military in africa can be as pathetic as the SANDF. She is saying your HIV force has been in decline and still is.

She is saying your defence force is a hopeless retirement home.

She is saying, you have no money to run your military. Dummy.

MikeZA:
3. You're now dancing all over the place Mike..ZA making the floor hot for you? You can't answer questions.

I've answered all your question, and have showed and continue to show your military is pathetic.

MikeZA: 4. Our air force and special operation forces medics always perform well,from rescuing hurricane victims,combat search and rescue all over SADC,mounting rescues,sea rescue(Nigerian air force is still to develop that.

Lol, what is this comedy central, or "night" of a thousand laughs"?

"they(SAAF) get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

Nigeria Operates the most advanced surveillance assets in Africa.

Camera systems
Satellite systems
Elint surveillance systems
Augusta S&R helicopters
Bell S&R helicopters.

Henry120:

LMAO!!!!

You want to discuss technology you do not have. Pathetic bro. This is a new low coming from you. After conniving with terrorists, you want to go into technology that are non-existent in your HIV defence force.


You should start proving Nigerian soldiers ran away? They combated, and continue to combat the enemy across the borders and into the deserts.

Your security services receive training from the americans and british, they also get hand out equipments from the west. No wonder you guys are massive western a$slickers.


You have no Data links. For how long you're going to continue with this lie?

Nigeria isn't in the "TDL club",South Africa in the 1998 review got Link-ZA,frigates,subs,helicopters,jets and more. Watch what happens in this 2014 one. 1. Your officers can't read maps and ended up in Cameroon where they took your weapons. 2. You're not that knowledgeable about C2 systems so I won't bother,to try discus such things with you. 3. The SANDF battalions aren't trained by any foreign armed forces. 4. You receive anything from cutters,trucks,APCs and more.

In those pictures all your soldiers were carrying 1 AK-47 each or carrying a RPG. Some carried GPMG. All from soldiers heading for combat. No AGLs,MGLs,Mortars,DM rifles,first aid kit(buddy aid) and more!!!

agaugust:

At $100 per barrel, OPEC production quota for Nigeria is about 2.2 million barrels crude oil per day gives us revenue of $100 billion without counting gas, condensate, solid minerals, tax, etc. Add others and Nigerian annual revenue is about $ 160 billion

If a white man writes rubbish, you say yes sir and swallow it like a mugu because you believe his brain is superior to yours

Keep getting fvcked by CIA fake data, no wonder your Boer-White men labelled you as dog-meat

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Does your government tax 100% of corporate profits?

No?

Ok:

South Africa
revenues: $88.53 billion
expenditures: $105.5 billion (2013 est.)


Nigeria
revenues: $23.85 billion
expenditures: $31.51 billion (2013 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html

agaugust:


No, it is Egypt, thousands of guided missiles, tanks, APCs, Tucano aircraft, Alpha jets, etc manufactured in Egypt at home.




You are a human being of low mental value.

Egypt produces jet fighter engines that South Africa has NEVER done, and thousands of guided missiles and thousands of armoured vehicles.

South Africa believes in noise making, most wise countries keep quiet while they do far better than an over-bloated ANC kingdom.

Egypt manufactures ballistic missiles today, but South Africa does NOT !!!

http://www.nti.org/facilities/412/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/egypt/industry.htm

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None of those sources say that Egypt produces and develops on the scale of South Africa

We are in the Top 20 for a reason

Henry120:
It doesn't change the fact you are the murder capital of the world.


Yes I know what she talking about. She simply saying no military in africa can be as pathetic as the SANDF. She is saying your HIV force has been in decline and still is.

She is saying your defence force is a hopeless retirement home.

She is saying, you have no money to run your military. Dummy.


I've answered all your question, and have showed and continue to show your military is pathetic.



Lol, what is this comedy central, or "night" of a thousand laughs"?

"they(SAAF) get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

Nigeria Operates the most advanced surveillance assets in Africa.

Camera systems
Satellite systems
Elint surveillance systems
Augusta S&R helicopters
Bell S&R helicopters.

Sub-saharan African countries like your Nigeria,suffer from imbalance. 1. Please stop making claims and show or tell us the names of those "surveillance assets"!!!! A single SANDF recce with the LH-40C binoculors can do what all those assets you mentioned there can do.

agaugust:

Even Togo republic can do that ! You Dumbo
.

NOPE!!!!!

Henry120:

Pathetic SANDF. You think it's by carrying out photo-shoots.

More insul..ts and no facts. Go cry on beegeagle's shoulders not here Henry.

agaugust:

No.

We built ballistic missiles - and improved on their design.

We didnt need ICBM's

agaugust:

They carried 105mm artillery guns on foot? Olodo !

Maybe SANDF infantry have no legs or too lazy to walk when close to target, or spread out to prevent 'one shot k.ill 20 ambush risk'. You don't know war tactics. Olodo !

"Spread to avoid ambush kill"? Lmaooo. Artillery towed by gun trucks,like you always say "even togo can do that. Carrying a 1960 relics

agaugust:

Budget is not the same as revenue. Most countries with good financing do NOT spend all their revenue, and a budget is only a list of spending, not how much you earn, wanna argue finance with an accountant?

Again, the source you quoted says Nigeria's budget was based on oil price $74 per barrel when the real price is about $100 per barrel....extra billions of dollars will enter revenue.

A budget is not a statement of actual revenue, it is a statement of assumed/guess revenue and determined/planned expenses

Say thank you for the free education....

Do you wish to argue finance with a CFA?

You are a simple bean counter, my boy.

Henry120:

I could not care less what your intentions are. Fact is, You're actively abating terrorism, for a laugh. Well, your problem.

There is nothing to prove that those 2 men running are nigerian soldiers, even if they were, you'd be silly to expect them to fight outnumbered 200: 1 in the face of 14.5mm fire.

Nigerian soldiers are not poorly equipped. They are, and remain the best army in Africa.

We have dsiproved this on many occasions.

Our boys are better armed, trained and led.

We fought against the same odds in Bangui and earned a cease-fire. Your boys just donned dresses and took to the hills.

agaugust:

They carried 105mm artillery guns on foot? Olodo !

Maybe SANDF infantry have no legs or too lazy to walk when close to target, or spread out to prevent 'one shot k.ill 20 ambush risk'. You don't know war tactics. Olodo !

Don't mix infantry with artillery or armour units. Your infantry is classed as "Foot-lized infantry" . Your soldiers carry 1 AK-47 and if lucky plus 150 bullets and a RPG. SANDF soldiers carry more than 80KG!!!!!

patches689:

Do you wish to argue finance with a CFA?

You are a simple bean counter, my boy.

Lmaoooooooo . DUDE!!!!!!

agaugust:

Nope, your home made SADC pirates, your own region's pirates that your weak submarine navy has no OPV to pursue

South African navy has ZERo force projection beyond Cape Town

Nigerian navy now rules both ECOWAS and SADC waters with impunity

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The facts tell a different story

SADAC waters - 2 attacks, in waters beyond SAN responsibility
Nigerian waters - 11 attack and countless more in surrounding waters

agaugust:





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This proves that ALL South Africans are fools forever

"480 Nigerian troops crossed over during a battle with the insurgents. Nigeria said the troops crossed over while making a tactical maneuver.

Colonel Didier Badjeck, a Cameroon military spokesman, told VOA that allegations made in Cameroonian media that the incidence was a defection were unfounded, but added that they were particularly careful over the presence of the Nigerian soldiers as Boko Haram militants could also disguise as a regular army and attack them."

http://www.voanews.com/content/boko-haram-attacks-nigerian-soldiers-in-cameroon/2429429.html

See how easily ordianary Cameroonians fool South Africans with fake news...LOL...Dull Soweto brains get scammed from West Africa. LOL !

Now Soweto mofos, you show us where SANDF has made such a tactical maneuver in real battle since 20 years ago, all we see on nairaland are photos of South African soldiers fighting in empty space shooting at ghosts that do not exist....

See this one open big mouth, point him rifle at the Camera-man...fake army
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The BBC and other reputable sources reported on that.

And that "man with the big mouth" is worth 5 Nigerian soldiers... or 20 seleka rebels

agaugust:

Fail

The next year has it's own revenue and needs no carry over technically called "Balance Carried Forward" in micro book keeping/accounting.

Say thank you again...

2014

Thinking national budgetary considerations are based on accounting

My sides

agaugust:

Your South African OPV that does not have enough fuel to reach Angola and save your SADC defense partner in time of need...

Fake blue water navy

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The Valour Class has more than enough range.

We have 4 Valour Class - 3 are operational

You only have 2 operational OPVs... who wins?

Our waters are piracy free

Yours have had 11 pirate attacks this year alone

Who wins?

agaugust:

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Biggest Weapons Manufacturer In Africa Is Egypt !


Egyptian home defense industry produces thousands of main battle tanks, ballistic missiles, tactical guided missiles, amroured vehicles, jet fighters, jet engines, etc

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Nope, biggest weapons producer in Africa is Egypt, I proved it today. This forum had been misled for too long.

South Africa is a lousy noise maker and fake leader in anything. Some silent countries in Africa are superior to the noisy SA.

Truth has come out today....

http://www.nti.org/facilities/412/

http://fas.org/irp/threat/missile/egypt.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/egypt/army-equipment-intro.htm

http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/4311/egypts-other-revolution_modernizing-the-military-i

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No they do not

Are you also now trying to tell us that they make monkey model Abrams tanks?

You filthy liar. No honor. No dignity.

Just a stubborn mule.

agaugust:

Taiwan ? Your Soweto OPV won't sail beyond Cape Town before deep ocean wave and storm sinks it

SADC region that cannot fight ordinary pirates off it's own regional oceans always crying to Nigerian navy for deliverance

Angola wasted money buying Su-30 jets, while South Africa wasted money buying useless Submarines. SADC Fools

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11 Attacks in Nigeria
2 in SADAC waters

Get back to us when you can secure your own waters.

agaugust:

Egypt prove to be Africa's biggest weapons producer, fact ! This thread gets worse for South Africa every month...Butt Hurt

Most South African made weapons are copies, and stolen or purchased/imported designs, Hawk Jets and Badger IFV are European licensed

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South Africa: worlds top 20 weapons manufacturer
Egypt: not world top 20 weapons manufacturer

Cool story, clown, but your paint is running from all those delicious nigerian tears

Henry120:

When you make comments like these, I begin to wonder Whether you have a functional brain.

So why then did the BBC move the "goal-post" on 3 different occasions on this story?

"The BBC chose to be partisan and rabidly anti-government and they boxed themselves into a corner.

http://www.dailyindependentnig.com/2014/06/council-boss-debunks-bbc-report-bharam-attack/

MORE LIES by BBC

The BBC claimed the wife of the camerounian vice-prime-minister has been rescued by camerounian BIR (rapid intervention battalion).

http://www.cameroonweb.com/CameroonHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=307770

The wife of the vice-premier is still in boko-haram custody.



http://www.beegeagle./2014/08/16/nigerian-forces-well-trained-and-equipped-to-counter-the-boko-haram-threat-olukolade/

The BBC and many western news sources have jettisoned moral journalistic ethics, and have instead continued to propergate falsehood.


Nigerian soldiers receive by far better pay,
By far Better health care benefits
By far Better retirement benefits
Better trained and better armed
Have families and friends in nigeria,
And are nigerians.

Nigerian soldiers are cowards.

BBC is a world wide respected news outlet.

Other media sources are telling the same story.

Will your government pay for all the dresses your soldiers stole from civilians?