Patchesagain: [size=15pt]SAAF sets a reminder as to whom is the best in Sub-Saharan Africa
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Following the insertion of Pathfinders dropped from a C208 Caravan at 6,000ft in order to collect intelligence and mark targets, a Hawk fitted with a Vinten reconnaissance pod, escorted by a Gripen, obtained tactical information over the battlefield. The Gripen, having been targeted by a SAM, released flares.

Various simulated exercises, including a South African Army element, comprised scenarios ranging from mortar attacks, air supply drops and troop insertions. A low-level supply drop by a C-130 Hercules was followed by two Gripens and a Hawk performed a 2v1 dogfight.

Oryx medium-transport helicopters demonstrated water bombing with Bambi buckets and continuously dropped off and picked up troops while an Agusta A109 Light Utility Helicopter performed observation and co-ordination of ground force duties.

With a BK-117 performing an ‘emergency landing’ after the pilot was hit by ground fire, a combat Search & Rescue scenario was enacted. The ensuing mock battle included the firing of 81mm motors, with Oryx helicopters inserting and extracting troops whilst two Rooivalk attack helicopters provided covering fire with 20mm cannon and 70mm FFAR rockets.

Close air support was proved by a Hawk firing its 30mm Aden cannon and dropping 120kg bombs, whilst three Gripens dropped 250kg bombs on targets on the range, creating some impressively huge explosions and accompanying vibrations.

-from DefenceWeb

We talk about what we can actually do

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Even zero-experienced Ghana can do what you did, even a dunce can parade and fire his own weapons at home in training.

Go show your war skills to Seleka Rebels now [/size]
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agaugust:

Algerian and Egyptian special forces are far better than those of South Africa, yet they have no website for their SF.

Is it website or published stories that judges special forces? Algerian SF just came victorious in a 10 year long war non-stop against deadly Islamic terrorists.....

You can NEVER compare your paper stories with the reality we see, now you show us video of the skills of South African special forces, seeing is believing...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxcmMax2poQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI2XaoJxZVk

These are African special forces, Show us those of South Africa !!!!
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SIMPLY TYPE SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES IN YOUR SEARCH TOOL. THE SAME WAY YOU ACQUIRED THE INFO ABOVE.

DieVluit: So, the Nigerian government has confirmed that it owns the money confiscated in South Africa.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/fg-defends-9-3m-cash-seized-s-africa-releases-data-transaction/

Who was the emotional debater the rejected the story of these people working with Nigerian intelligentsia? So much for trying to buy South African weapons undercover. So much for "having everything SA has".

Deal was contracted to an Israeli arms dealer who has customers that do shady and back door arms deals in South Africa, the small money will not even buy a combat helicopter. Deal must be for non-lethal cheap equipment or just some special rifles.

The buyer/contractor is an Israeli arms dealer. South Africa is shown as corrupt and non-transparent, Israelis deal in arms export out of your corrupt country without telling South African government !
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agaugust:

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Even zero-experienced Ghana can do what you did, even a dunce can parade and fire his own weapons at home in training.

Go show your war skills to Seleka Rebels now [/size]
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WE HAVE SHOWN IT ALREADY BY OUTSMARTING SELEKA RIGHT IN THEIR HOME SOIL WITH ONLY A LIMITED NUMBER OF SOLDIERS ARMED WITH LIMITED FIREPOWER. YET, WE KILLED MORE OF THEM.

@AUGUSTUS AGAIN YOU HAVE NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION WHICH IS DIRECTED ABOUT SO CALLED NIGERIAN SPECIAL FORCES...NOT ALGERIA OR EGYPY....YOU HAVE A TENDENCY OF SHIFTING GOAL POST WHENEVER YOU ARE CORNERED...AGAIN I REPEAT ANSWER MY QUESTION WHERE IS THE INFOMATION REGARDING NIGERIA.....IF IT EXIST IT COULD BE IN PUBLIC SPACE.....TELL SOUTH AFRICANS WE ARE WAITING....DO NOT RUN SHOW US THE EVIDENCE....REMEMBER NIGERIAN SPECIAL FORCES

@AUGUSTUS REGARDING CORRUPTION CAN THERE BE COMPARISON BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICA AND NIGERIA...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH WHAT DOES NIGERIA UNDESTAND ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY...ANYWAY LEST WE SHIFT FROM THE HOT DEBATE......AWAITING EVIDENCE

@Agaugust, your fake engineers killed our brothers and sisters. You claimed to have the best engineers but they couldn't even know how to balance the forces which resulted into the collapse of the building. We hold you responsible.

@AUGUSTUS SSS ACKNOWLEDGE THE OPERATION AS BONA FIDE AND LEGITIMATE TO BUY ARMS.....TRANSFER THE AMOUNT FROM DOLLARS INTO RANDS AND ITS POSSIBLE TO BUY A SMALL ARSENAL TO ARM A PLATOON......REMEMBER @AUGUSTUS FROM THE 17-22 THERE ISAN INTERNATIONAL ARMS EXHIBITION IN WATERKLOOF AIRBASE......EVERY ARMS DEALER IS WELCOMED TO BUY WEAPONS AND CONCLUDE DEALS AND THE ISRAEL CITIZEN IS TRAINING AND SUPERVISING THE NIGERIAN SPECIAL BOAT SERVICE AND ARE HERE IN SOUTH AFRICA TO SEEK ADVISE FROM THE RECCES AND FOR NOW I WILL STOP HERE

@AUGUSTUS SSS ACKNOWLEDGE THE OPERATION AS BONA FIDE AND LEGITIMATE TO BUY ARMS.....TRANSFER THE AMOUNT FROM DOLLARS INTO RANDS AND ITS POSSIBLE TO BUY A SMALL ARSENAL TO ARM A PLATOON......REMEMBER @AUGUSTUS FROM THE 17-22 THERE ISAN INTERNATIONAL ARMS EXHIBITION IN WATERKLOOF AIRBASE......EVERY ARMS DEALER IS WELCOMED TO BUY WEAPONS AND CONCLUDE DEALS AND THE ISRAEL CITIZEN IS TRAINING AND SUPERVISING THE NIGERIAN SPECIAL BOAT SERVICE

FighterPilot:

EBOLA. IS RAMPANT IN NAIJA. IT IS ALL OVER THE NEWS.

....Taa gbafuo... I don tire wid dis guy o.

Nigeria's fake engineers have killed more than 67 South Africans and injured 100 more. Some, might not be able to walk anymore and were flown to SA for best medical care as Nigeria does not have such facilities. Nigerians are always singing about their intelligence here, but they failed just to balance the forces from newtons laws. What kind of stupiid engineers, Nigeria have?

ChukwuCantDie: ....Taa gbafuo... I don tire wid dis guy o.

Fact is fact, Ebola forced your schools to be closed.

rka1:
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Boko Haram: Over 400 killed in Konduga, Ngamdu as soldiers ambush insurgents[/size]


By Maina Maina on September 17, 2014@dailypostngr

Images (21) No fewer than 400 members of the dreaded Islamic sect, Boko Haram were reportedly killed in their latest clash with soldiers of the Nigerian 7 division.

The insurgents fell to the officers who ambushed them while they tried to attack Konduga local government area of Borno central senatorial district.

Locals also said, that, they attempted to attack Konduga from two directions with over 500 fighters when the military fought and defended the local government, killing over 200 before the insurgents retreated.


DailyPost also gathered that, after the attack was repelled, some of them went through the forest and were heading towards Mafa local government area when soldiers laid ambush on them again, killing over 100 while the rest escaped with bullet wounds.

In another development, over 100 sect members who came up to attack travelers along Maiduguri- Potiskum road met their Waterloo when the detachment along that route engaged them in a fierce battle, killing all of them.

http://dailypost.ng/2014/09/17/boko-haram-400-killed-konduga-ngamdu-soldiers-ambush-insurgents/

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/troops-recover-3-vehicles-1-apc-insurgents-laleye/


http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/troops-crush-terrorists-revenge-mission-at-konduga/

[size=16pt]Best Army In Africa 2014....Nigeria

See what we do with 150 ammo per soldier....

Trained to k.ill, no waste, one shot one bullet one target....Bang !

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agaugust:
[size=16pt]Best Army In Africa 2014....Nigeria
See what we do with 150 ammo per soldier....
Trained to k.ill, no waste, one shot one bullet one target....Bang !
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I would rather call Burundi, the best African Army other than military of propaganda.

Troop101:

o yaaaaa we can kick ashhhhhhh. I don't think those NI-apes ever experience that kind of thrilling air power demo. They will shitttttttt their pants.

No, we don't boast about training and demo that even Ghana can do.

We Nigerian air force officers boast about the thousands of b.ombs, b.omblets, and rocket pods we have fired on Boko Haram's head in the last four years, and Boko Haram has high calibre anti-aircraft gun defences, so they fire back.

This is the combat experience of 2014 that South African Gripen, Hawk, and Rooivalk pilots wish they had, but do NOT have

CAPTURED: BOKO HARAM'S DEADLY 7 KM RANGE FOUR-BARREL SHILKA ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUNS FIRE BACK AT NIGERIAN AIR FORCE
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FighterPilot:

YOU ARE A LIE!! NIGERIA DOES NOT HAVE ANY TRACK RECORD OF ANY SPECIAL OPERATION AS FOR SA RECCES THE INFORMATION IS ALL OVER THE NET. HEEHEEHEE!!!

We don't make noises. We are silent k.illers....we enter the lion'd den and k.illed him in his own camp :

"Shekau was killed in Gwoza Hills by a contingent of Special Forces led by Major A.T. Fambiya. Fambiya is reckoned to be one of the best Special Forces officers in the Nigerian military, who grew up in Gwoza and understood the rocky terrain.
Further investigations revealed that it was Major Fambiya that delivered the fatal shot that sent Shakau reeling in Gwoza Hills during a fierce battle but the Boko Haram leader did not die immediately. He was severally moved to Mali and later Cameroon where he gave up the ghost. His aides, who sought to create the impression that he was still alive to sect members, hurriedly buried him.
Pointblanknews.com gathered that the senator was angered by the deployment of Major Timothy Fambiya, an indigene of Gwoza in Gwoza Local Government Council of Borno State to eradicate the sect members and halt their activities in the area. The area falls within Senator Ndume’s Senatorial District and is predominantly Christian."
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agaugust:

[size=16pt]Best Army In Africa 2014....Nigeria

See what we do with 150 ammo per soldier....

Trained to k.ill, no waste, one shot one bullet one target....Bang !

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No be small thing oh! They were completely routed.

FighterPilot:



THESE NEWS REPORTS ALWAYS SMELL OF A RAT. WHY IS IT THAT WHEN BOKO HARAM AMBUSH SOLDIERS, THE NUMBER OF CASUALTIES ALWAYS TURNED TO BE DOWNPLAYED, BUT WHEN SOLDIERS AMBUSH THE INSUGENTS THEN THE NUMBERS ALWAYS ARE BALLOONED?

DO WE SAY THAT INSURGENTS ARE THAT INCAPABLE THAT EVEN WHEN THEY CAUGHT SOLDIERS FLAT FOOTED ONLY PICK THE FEW. PROPAGANDA NEVER WINS THE WAR. THE TRUTH WAS REVEALED WHEN SOLDIERS MUTINIED AGAINST OWN COMMANDER AFTER THEY LOST COMRADES WHICH YET AGAIN THE ARMY DOWNPLAYED. I REALLY DO NOT BELIEVE WHATEVER NONSENSE THAT COMES OUT OF NIGERIA'S MILITARY.

You smell a rat when you don't like the news eh? hehehe.

If you think it is a lie, go to liveleak.com and search for bokoharam. You will see BH bodies littered on the ground in Konduga after the first attack a few days ago, then come and speak to me again.

By the way, the story goes that the Air Force reported the Alpha Jet missing recently to lure BH into a false sense of security, then wham! If true, great piece of Psych Ops.

AND BTW, YOU HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY FOOLED BY BH PROPAGANDA MACHINE, OLODO.

agaugust:
We don't make noises. We are silent k.illers....we enter the lion'd den and k.illed him in his own camp :

"Shekau was killed in Gwoza Hills by a contingent of Special Forces led by Major A.T. Fambiya. Fambiya is reckoned to be one of the best Special Forces officers in the Nigerian military, who grew up in Gwoza and understood the rocky terrain.
Further investigations revealed that it was Major Fambiya that delivered the fatal shot that sent Shakau reeling in Gwoza Hills during a fierce battle but the Boko Haram leader did not die immediately. He was severally moved to Mali and later Cameroon where he gave up the ghost. His aides, who sought to create the impression that he was still alive to sect members, hurriedly buried him.
Pointblanknews.com gathered that the senator was angered by the deployment of Major Timothy Fambiya, an indigene of Gwoza in Gwoza Local Government Council of Borno State to eradicate the sect members and halt their activities in the area. The area falls within Senator Ndume’s Senatorial District and is predominantly Christian."
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PROPAGANDA YET AGAIN

rka1:

You smell a rat when you don't like the news eh? hehehe.

If you think it is a lie, go to liveleak.com and search for bokoharam. You will see BH bodies littered on the ground in Konduga after the first attack a few days ago, then come and speak to me again.

By the way, the story goes that the Air Force reported the Alpha Jet missing recently to lure BH into a false sense of security, then wham! If true, great piece of Psych Ops.

AND BTW, YOU HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY FOOLED BY BH PROPAGANDA MACHINE, OLODO.

IN THE NAME OF PROPAGANDA, SAY AMEN.

agaugust:

South Africa has no military spy satellite and no dedicated ISTAR aircraft, and no amphibious armoured vehicles in year 2014
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The Hawk can do the job of your so called "ISTAR plane".

Amphibious armoured vehicles? The Angolans has amphibious tanks.

agaugust:

How many African countries publish full details of training and specialization of their special forces on internet?

Can you find such information for Egypt, Algeria, Uganda, Kenya?

Nigerian navy SBS special forces is 8 years old and have current combat experience in Niger Delta war and Boko Haram war.

Nigerian army SF are decades old, formerly called commandos.

Only NAF SF is newly created, and yet over 4 years old, formed from older battalion of airborne paratroopers
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Combat tested?

Let's talk Saffers and Zimbabweans,countries with combat tested and highly SF units not your SBS garbage.

NA SF operator=Zim "rookie" SF.

kikuyu1: Many of you admire the Israelis and wish your forces could be more like them-if only you knew!
Today is the first anniversary of their Westgate false flag:
Here's the most cited Israeli false flag:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Hoping of course the Egyptians get hammered by the US. Luckily the ship and the sailors just refused to die.

So that you appreciate just how inhuman these Israelis are here are some pics for their fanboys.

Jewish Block family owned Norfolk 1980



Mombasa Paradise 2002

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http://karanjazplace..com/2014/09/the-first-anniversary-of-westgate-false.html
See those pics of Islamabad and Jakarta!

And what do u want the NLers to do about this?
Kenya govt still collaborates with them, pass them the message first. U splash this rubbish all over Nairaland?

Msauza:


Fact is fact, Ebola forced your schools to be closed.

Fact is fact, you have AIDS.

DieVluit: Original caption: "Another reason why South Africans can hold their heads high - this is the South African Air Force squadron which first 'discovered' and then photographed Auschwitz concentration camp.

Seen here is a SAAF De Haviland Mosquito FB mk VI of 60 Squadron in Italy - 3 September 1944.

The Squadron, equipped with photo-recce Mosquitoes, carried out detailed large-scale photographic surveys of German held areas, eventually ranging over the Alps and deep into Germany.

During one of these missions in Spring 1944, a 60 Squadron Mosquito piloted by Lt. C.H.H Barry and his navigator Lt. I McIntyre photographed Auschwitz when they went to photograph the rubber refinery plant next to the camp.

When the photos were analyzed, they found rows of people lining up in the camp. The photos also showed chimneys and all the other characteristics of a camp for prisoners. This, with other intelligence, brought them to the conclusions that extermination camps existed."

That is my grandfathers old squadron

agaugust:

Same story and history for South African military that was defeated by ordinary Rhino hunters.

For Nigerian army, when the war is over, history will read that we defeated the most powerful Islamic terrorist force is Africa.

Now there is no problem about a war in Nigeria, the sweet thing for history is that we got Victory at the end.

The end of story for South Africa is the read bad news, your Soweto grandchildren will read that Rhino hunters finally defeated SANDF and your government relocated your precious Rhinos to permanent exile to Botswana
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This argument is like the Su-30 argument

Completely baseless

agaugust:


Your peacetime army is an untested army, and nothing makes an average football team that only trains at home, to be better than the average one that plays in the world cup.

From your own definitions above, a revolutionist is an insurgent who has taken over government, he is still an insurgent, just that he is a successful one that won political control of the territory.

ANC insurgents defeated South African military and established a revolutionary government of successful insurgents.

Successful Insurgency = Revolution.

A revolutionist is an insurgent. Simple
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This guy sitting here talking about football?

Dude the SADF of 1914, 1938 and early 1960's was the same

BUT they didn't have veterans of a 25 year war in their ranks

American army before Iraq was untested. How did that work?

German army today is untested

"Untested" means nothing if you are properly trained

That's why you rely so much on experience - your men don't get proper training

agaugust:

New version 1990s 813 F-16s is almost 3 times the 280 Gripens that exist.

The other older 1,200 F-16s have over 700 of them upgraded to modern versions in ALL advanced countries, no advanced country flies around in 3rd generation jets, when even Uganda is flying 4th generation.

You SA guys are classic dummies with your rubbish posts
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You have changes your argument multiple times

So well done again on winning an argument no one was having

Clown

agaugust:

You are the one who does not know what development means.

Let me help you with a simple example.

China builds vehicle and aircraft engines, South Africa imports all such things.

"The composition of our bilateral trade remains a concern. Over 90% of South Africa’s top 10 exports to China are in raw materials while 100% of our top 10 imports from China are manufactured products," the minister said in a written reply to a parliamentary question by African National Congress (ANC) MP Freddie Adams."

http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/trade/2014/03/12/bilateral-trade-with-china-on-the-increase

The difference between candle flame and sunshine
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This has literally nothing to do with development

agaugust:

No, you lost, Jacob Zuma begged Botswana to allow him transfer your Rhinos to them after SANDF was defeated by ragtag poachers
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Stats have been posted - we are winning. And again it's not an SANDF responsibility

And show us where Zuma begged

Meanwhile - BH killed 3000 or so Nigerians this year

In South Africa.... Just over 700 rhino dead

We better protect rhino than you do your people

agaugust:

Every country in the world with an air force can drop bombs successfully in a testing-training location at home.

South African military keeps firing weapons at stones, sand and trees in the bush, when will your Gripen jets and Hawk jets ever fire at a real enemy that can fire back? In a battlefield where your own army is mixed with the enemy fighters inside a city with civilains, that is the true test of military skills and capability-professionalism.

Togo republic too can fire Alpha jets rockets and bombs against trees in the bush with no response from the enemy that does not exist

Is that all we did there? Drop bombs and fire rockets?

No

Hence: your argument is invalid


And as the only sub Saharan country to have fought a conventional war with and advanced fighters flown by both sides. South Africa has maintained those capabilities.

agaugust:


My pleasure....


"Starting in January 2015, a conservation group will fly as many as 100 rhinos from South Africa to Botswana in an attempt to save the animal from extinction.

The relocation project comes after one of the deadliest years for rhinos on record, with more than 1,000 killed in South Africa alone, according to the South Africa Department of Environmental Affairs."

http://mashable.com/2014/08/13/south-africa-airlift-rhinos/


"(Reuters) - South Africa plans to move up to 500 rhinos from its flagship Kruger National Park to counter a wave of poaching of the animals for their horns, highly prized in newly affluent Asian countries as a sign of wealth.

Officials said on Tuesday the mission could see some of the animals shipped to nearby Botswana and Zambia as South Africa grapples with a poaching epidemic that has seen more than 630 rhinos killed so far this year, 408 of them in Kruger."


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/12/us-safrica-rhinos-idUSKBN0GC1AB20140812

[size=16pt]Proved : South African military defeated, Rhino Poachers win the war ![/size]

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No mention of the South African military only of Nature Conservation

#SpeakFacts