agaugust:

No, 150 ammo per man in Nigerian army for rifles only, is a training doctrine of every bullet counts.....sharpshooting.

See, we target Boko men's heads, one bullet, s.kull is drilled with a hole....see heads with holes in these photos, that is what Nigerian army will do to SANDF, your photos and training has not allowed you to know what it means when a sharp-shooting enemy fires back at you in retaliation...
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MXM! oho! Those are just a bunch of dumb hooligans who are just taught to shoot a gun, they aren't real soldiers or battle hardened rebels like Seleka or Mai-Mai in congo

DieVluit: Real experience. SAAF in Tunisia. 1949.

Useless experience, there was NO war in Tunisia 1949 ! Fool

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Patchesagain: Complete proof that the SANDF are not directly involved in APU duties:

Retired Major General Johan Jooste told a border surveillance technology co-operation seminar that one of the biggest problems facing him in the ongoing campaign against rhino poachers was that of turning people trained as conservationists – rangers – into “operators”.

“I ask myself if it’s right to train people whose function is protection of species, from grass through to birds and animals to become almost like Special Forces operators.

“When rangers go on patrol in search of rhino poachers they are up against an enemy who comes into Kruger for one to four days at a time with the express intention of killing rhino. He has the bushcraft and skills to survive on very little for that period of time and I am putting people in harm’s way trying to stop and apprehend him.

“Sure their job is to protect species and anti-poaching operations are part of it but it is a worrying aspect of current operations in the Kruger National Park.”


“Anti- and counter-poaching operations will remain a collateral task for soldiers and other military personnel deployed on border protection (Operation Corona) until there is a focus shift,” he said adding good training and doctrine would, in time and if deployed, be an asset against poachers.

- DefenceWeb

Complete proof that the SANDF are not directly involved in APU duties:

The above story you posted says SANDF are involved in Rhino poaching war, you just like to s.hoot yourself in the testicles

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DieVluit: Professional army. People's army.

Sleeping army....all of them in the photo are in a hostel room beside their beds.

SANDF no war in 20 years....sleeping army at home !
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Patchesagain:

1. Its BRICS

In 2010, South Africa began efforts to join the BRIC grouping, and the process for its formal admission began in August of that year.[15] South Africa officially became a member nation on 24 December 2010, after being formally invited by the BRIC countries to join the group.[15] The group was renamed BRICS – with the "S" standing for South Africa – to reflect the group's expanded membership.[16] In April 2011, the President of South Africa, Jacob Zuma, attended the 2011 BRICS summit in Sanya, China, as a full member.[17][18][19]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#Entry_of_South_Africa

South-Africa is an insignificant member of the BRIC. You were only allowed into the organisation so as to give the African continent a representation. On all economic indices, Brazil, Russia, India and China are light years ahead of you.

There is no comparism, both in economics, population and in growth. You economy slightly escaped a recession. You live in the most un-equal society in the world. White south-african households make 10 times the income of blacks. There are only 18% blacks in the middle class, the rest of the Black population live under the poverty line, this despite blacks making up 87% of the entire population.


BRICS bank, south-africa is contributing only $5 billion to the $100 billion dollar fund. This shows how irrelevant you are in the BRICS and further lays credence to the fact you're nothing but an expendable member of the group.

China is contributing $41 billion
Brazil, $18 billion
India, $18 billion
Russia, $18 billion.


We can see how not needed and useless south-africa is, in the BRIC.

Patchesagain: 2. South Africa is not broke - and has far more financial muscle than Nigeria

South Africa
revenues: $88.53 billion
expenditures: $105.5 billion (2013 est.)

Nigeria
revenues: $23.85 billion
expenditures: $31.51 billion (2013 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html

Take a look at our budget, its looking good buddy
http://www.fin24.com/Budget

Nigeria's budget is pegged at $60 per barrel of oil.
Oil accounts for 69% of all nigerian exports
Nigeria has an opec quota of 2.4 million barrels per day. We produce upto 4 million barrels of oil per day.

Now, do the calculation

You(south-africa) are a broke country.

Patchesagain: 3. We are a major member of BRICS

In 2010, South Africa officially became a member of BRICS. Compared with the other BRICS countries, South Africa’s size, population, and economy are quite small. Do you think that Nigeria would be more representative of sub-Saharan Africa? What value does South Africa add to BRICS?

BRICS is not decisively about a politico-economic grouping of comparable economic-demographic stature, though that is certainly one of the determining factors in deciding the membership. South Africa’s entry into the BRICS on December 24, 2010, was a Christmas gift to itself. Even though it has a much smaller population and economy as compared to Nigeria, other factors worked in its favour – its vast natural resources such as gold, diamonds and platinum, its excellent infrastructure, its established corporate footprints, a culture of innovation, easy access to finance for business, a stable macro and micro financial climate, an advanced banking system, and functioning regulatory frameworks.

South Africa is already the voice of the continent at various international forums. It is poised to serve as a base as well as a gateway for investment from the BRICS countries to the vast market of a billion Africans.
http://www.fairobserver.com/region/africa/why-south-africa-brics/

You are an irrelevant, very expendable member of the BRIC nations. FACT!!!

Patchesagain: 4. Brasil and India are not light years ahead of South Africa
5. Trade is not the focus - technology, finance, the stimulus of development and reduced competition are
6. Nigeria does not have the development, technology, financial or political clout to join BRICS

Your post reeks of butthurt

Enjoy being irrelevant

Oh yes they are. You do not contribute anything to the BRIC. Dangote would contribute more to the BRIC than south-africa.

"Out of the total initial capital of $100 billion, China will contribute $41 billion, Brazil, Russia and India would give $18 billion each, and South Africa would contribute $5 billion.[19] It is scheduled to start lending in 2016."

Uselessness of south-africa.


Your post reeks of a desperation to be seen.

Centrifude:

MXM! oho! Those are just a bunch of dumb hooligans who are just taught to shoot a gun, they aren't real soldiers or battle hardened rebels like Seleka or Mai-Mai in congo

Boko Haram's Sahel group defeated the whole national Army and air force of Mali, it took mighty France to uproot them. Boko Haram's Maghreb group fought the most modern military in Africa....Algeria for a whole 11 years before they were defeated.

South Africa will become like Somalia if 10,000 Boer-white supremacist insurgent fighters get support from worldwide right wing terrorists and spread all over your country that has only 11 combat helicopters for a land 6 times bigger than Great Britain. South Africa will become another Somalia with 20 battalions of SANDF already crippled by HIV and unable to do hard combat !






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agaugust:

Boko Haram's Sahel group defeated the whole national Army and air force of Mali, it took mighty France to uproot them. Boko Haram's Maghreb group fought the most modern military in Africa....Algeria for a whole 11 years before they were defeated.

South Africa will become like Somalia if 10,000 Boer-white supremacist insurgent fighters get support from worldwide right wing terrorists and spread all over your country that has only 11 combat helicopters for a land 6 times bigger than Great Britain. South Africa will become another Somalia with 20 battalions of SANDF already crippled by HIV and unable to do hard combat !






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A.W.B has thousands or supports and our intelligence crushes any form of advance they try to make the only think they can do is whine and hold their rallies.

And don't forget that there are plenty of A.W.B supporter who are amongst South Africa's richest people, and our intelligence agencies monitor many of these right-wing extremist including their High ranking leaders, our guys monitor their finances and their movements to make sure that even if they do get international funding we know about it.

Centrifude:


A.W.B has thousands or supports and our intelligence crushes any form of advance they try to make the only think they can do is whine and hold their rallies.

And don't forget that there are plenty of A.W.B supporter who are amongst South Africa's richest people, and our intelligence agencies monitor many of these right-wing extremist including their High ranking leaders, our guys monitor their finances and their movements to make sure that even if they do get international funding we know about it.

When the white men inside your intelligence and military decide to covertly support their white A.W.B brothers then you will know how cigarette burns when it is lighted inside your trousers.

You don't know what a die-hard insurgency is, there are Boko Haram members in Nigerian army stealing Nigerian weapons and giving them to Boko Haram. There are Boko Haram members in Nigerian army giving information of troop movements to Boko Haram.

Only a fool will think it is easy to fight a war when the enemy has sympathizers inside your own force ready to betray you secretly.

Sure South Africa has zero experience of that kind of war.

The day the white supremacists in South Africa get support from inside SANDF and intelligence agencies, then you will know how ignorant you have been.

Even America will sweat in that situation. Enemy within is 10 times more dangerous than enemy outside.

Pray South Africa never sees that kind of war, instead of coming here to boast that your country can easily defeat a kind of threat you have never seen before. You think your Frigates and Submarines will stop the faith and ideology of a terrorist?
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agaugust:

When the white men inside your intelligence and military decide to covertly support their white A.W.B brothers then you will know how cigarette burns when it is lighted inside your trousers.

You don't know what a die-hard insurgency is, there are Boko Haram members in Nigerian army stealing Nigerian weapons and giving them to Boko Haram. There are Boko Haram members in Nigerian army giving information of troop movements to Boko Haram.

Only a fool will think it is easy to fight a war when the enemy has sympathizers inside your own force ready to betray you secretly.

Sure South Africa has zero experience of that kind of war.

The day the white supremacists in South Africa get support from inside SANDF and intelligence agencies, then you will know how ignorant you have been.

Even America will sweat in that situation. Enemy within is 10 times more dangerous than enemy outside
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Uhm dude that's why we destroy that kinda ish before it gets too big of a problem to deal with, its like the level of crime in S.A many our politicians ignored it until it go out of control and that's one of the lessons we had to learn the hard way.

And don't bring in the U.S.A into dish, we both know crazy Sh*t would happen if there was an insurgency in the U.S and don't bring up Afghanistan and Iraq because that's different from being at home.

But away I didn't say it was easy to defeat B.H the initial argument was that S.A special forces are Better trained and experienced than your guys. We have better skills.

Centrifude:

Uhm dude that's why we destroy that kinda ish before it gets too big of a problem to deal with, its like the level of crime in S.A many our politicians ignored it until it go out of control and that's one of the lessons we had to learn the hard way.

And don't bring in the U.S.A into dish, we both know crazy Sh*t would happen if there was an insurgency in the U.S and don't bring up Afghanistan and Iraq because that's different from being at home.

But away I didn't say it was easy to defeat B.H the initial argument was that S.A special forces are Better trained and experienced than your guys. We have better skills.

bro what he said was Right... Pray you don't experience this sort of Insurgency... And about S.A intelligence taking care of it before it grows big, just take it as Getting lucky Cause #YOU CANT SEE EVERYTHING COMING

agaugust:

Hawk jet has NO suveillance radar for ISTAR....fool
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Gripen does

And the Hawk can use radar readings sent to it via LinkZA

Bang bang - argument dead

agaugust:

Dude stop posting this bvllshit on nairaland.

America just came from a very big and very large scale Vietnam war about 15 years before Iraqi war.

Same American fought world war II to Korean war about 10 years later. America is always fighting big wars, they are now back in Iraq against ISIS just after the finished Afghanistan war.

Stop writing rubbish that America has no war experience.

Germany, until the day they face Russia again since the last time 1945, then we will know how good they are.

The German military can defeat a weaker nation based on advanced technology and large number of sophisticated weapons.

South Africa is 100 times weaker than Germany. Don't compare
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So 5 years difference between the American army's experience and south Africa's?

And Nigeria is 10000 times weaker than Germany

agaugust:

Technological advancement has nothing to do with development? Okay your own idea of a developed country is the one that makes nice photos of all it's good roads and houses. Ode
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Trade has nothing to do with development

agaugust:

Are you protecting 177 million Rhinos? We have 177 million people to protect
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And you are failing at it

agaugust:

Dude South Africa VS Cuba was old school Mirage 111 and F1 VS MiG-23 ancient aircraft that are no longer relevant today, they are NOT advanced jets, they are out-dated 3rd generation relics.

The only Sub-Saharan countries that have ever used modern 4th generation jets in combat are Ethiopia VS Eritrea using their Su-27 Flanker VS MiG-29 with BVR missiles.

South Africa has NEVER used 4th generation jets in combat.

South Africa has NEVER used BRV missiles in combat and you don't even have any BVR today.

South Africa has NEVER used her Gripen and Hawk jets in battle.

South Africa's old 1980s and 1990s air combat experience is ZERO relevance today where Africa is flying latest Su-30 Flankers and F-16 jets
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Point stands

We have more air-combat experience than you

And we do have BVR... What is tha A-Darter?

agaugust:

South Africa's satellite died natural death many years ago , so today you have NOTHING
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Citations have been posted that it was used after the battle of Bangui

agaugust:

Show us proof of 17 year old men in 1989 that are still in SANDF as combatants today !
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#MovingTheGoalPosts

agaugust:

Fake sniper kill only found in the mouths of South African propagandists and South African edited Wikipedia.

Show us proof of SANDF 17 year old men of 1989 still in combatant service today !
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if in doubt call it fake heh?

Btw, do you need help moving those goal-posts?

agaugust:

You cannot be better with ZERO war experience in 20 years for SANDF.

You are however, the best photography craaaaazy army in Africa
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And who has the most experience in the last 50? 100?

You made up this imaginary deadline of 20 years because you know we have more experience

And furthermore, experience is irrelevant when you train properly

agaugust:

No, Nigerian Army made a mess of Boko Haram regularly, enjoy this....and show me video of how South African army performed against Seleka


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdwOfvLek3Q

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Posting more videos of dead civilians?

agaugust:

No, 150 ammo per man in Nigerian army for rifles only, is a training doctrine of every bullet counts.....sharpshooting.

See, we target Boko men's heads, one bullet, s.kull is drilled with a hole....see heads with holes in these photos, that is what Nigerian army will do to SANDF, your photos and training has not allowed you to know what it means when a sharp-shooting enemy fires back at you in retaliation...
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1 round 1 kill is nonsense

Thanks for proving (for the umpteenth time) that you don't have any idea what you are talking about

agaugust:

No, 150 ammo per man in Nigerian army for rifles only, is a training doctrine of every bullet counts.....sharpshooting.

See, we target Boko men's heads, one bullet, s.kull is drilled with a hole....see heads with holes in these photos, that is what Nigerian army will do to SANDF, your photos and training has not allowed you to know what it means when a sharp-shooting enemy fires back at you in retaliation...
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They have billets in their heads because your soldiers executed them

Because that's what the Nigerian army does

Kill civilians - call them BH

agaugust:

M23 was using weak 14.5mm single barrel AAA on Rooivalk and the Hinds were there to protect SAAF.

Boko is using superior 23mm four barrel AAA on NAF Helicopters and Alpha jets

NAF has 100 times more air to ground pilot combat experience than SAAF today 2014.
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And we have 100000 times more experience in the last 100 years

What's your point?

Also, citation needed

agaugust:


Sniper kill record that was denied by SANDF Brigadier General becomes propaganda fake news, you own army denies it

Extracting Lesotho president in a ZERO threat zone where the enemy was not interested in fighting you, can you compare Seleka ?

Behind M23 lines was a United Nations operation NOT a South African war. Tanzanian army led the operations NOT SANDF

Conclusion : In the last 20 years, South African special forces have ZERO combat experience....Hollywood army
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1. Denied because of operational security
2. Zero threat zone? A military coup where the military is trying to kill the man? No threat there!!
3. Regardless, South African SF were behind enemy lines destroying M23 logistics and command

A man who was 17 in 1989. How old is he now?

agaugust:


The above story you posted says SANDF are involved in Rhino poaching war, you just like to s.hoot yourself in the testicles

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So you don't understand ten phrase "collateral task"?

Illiteracy confirmed!!

agaugust:

Sleeping army....all of them in the photo are in a hostel room beside their beds.

SANDF no war in 20 years....sleeping army at home !
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Lol

War experience means nothing when you are better trained, led and equipped

And bye, a 17 year old in 1989... How old is he now?

Answer the question

Henry120:

South-Africa is an insignificant member of the BRIC. You were only allowed into the organisation so as to give the African continent a representation. On all economic indices, Brazil, Russia, India and China are light years ahead of you.

There is no comparism, both in economics, population and in growth. You economy slightly escaped a recession. You live in the most un-equal society in the world. White south-african households make 10 times the income of blacks. There are only 18% blacks in the middle class, the rest of the Black population live under the poverty line, this despite blacks making up 87% of the entire population.


BRICS bank, south-africa is contributing only $5 billion to the $100 billion dollar fund. This shows how irrelevant you are in the BRICS and further lays credence to the fact you're nothing but an expendable member of the group.

China is contributing $41 billion
Brazil, $18 billion
India, $18 billion
Russia, $18 billion.


We can see how not needed and useless south-africa is, in the BRIC.



Nigeria's budget is pegged at $60 per barrel of oil.
Oil accounts for 69% of all nigerian exports
Nigeria has an opec quota of 2.4 million barrels per day. We produce upto 4 million barrels of oil per day.

Now, do the calculation

You(south-africa) are a broke country.



You are an irrelevant, very expendable member of the BRIC nations. FACT!!!



Oh yes they are. You do not contribute anything to the BRIC. Dangote would contribute more to the BRIC than south-africa.

"Out of the total initial capital of $100 billion, China will contribute $41 billion, Brazil, Russia and India would give $18 billion each, and South Africa would contribute $5 billion.[19] It is scheduled to start lending in 2016."

Uselessness of south-africa.


Your post reeks of a desperation to be seen.

I will deal with these infantile ramblings when I get back from work

But facts are facts- out of all the BRICS we are the most developed

And according to the CIA world Facebook South African government has 3X the budget of Nigeria... And almost 3x less population*

*approximatly (I'm on my phone and I am not going to go back and look at exact figures)

Btw, that oil export = money in Nigerian govt pockets is the stupidest thing I have heard in years

agaugust:

When the white men inside your intelligence and military decide to covertly support their white A.W.B brothers then you will know how cigarette burns when it is lighted inside your trousers.

You don't know what a die-hard insurgency is, there are Boko Haram members in Nigerian army stealing Nigerian weapons and giving them to Boko Haram. There are Boko Haram members in Nigerian army giving information of troop movements to Boko Haram.

Only a fool will think it is easy to fight a war when the enemy has sympathizers inside your own force ready to betray you secretly.

Sure South Africa has zero experience of that kind of war.

The day the white supremacists in South Africa get support from inside SANDF and intelligence agencies, then you will know how ignorant you have been.

Even America will sweat in that situation. Enemy within is 10 times more dangerous than enemy outside.

Pray South Africa never sees that kind of war, instead of coming here to boast that your country can easily defeat a kind of threat you have never seen before. You think your Frigates and Submarines will stop the faith and ideology of a terrorist?
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Disloyal white supremacists withing the SANDF were dealt with in the 1990s and 2000s

so thanks for confirming how good we are

And thanks for confirming how bad your intelligence agencies are for not dealing with the problem

But we know how bad your intelligence agencies are- South African customs officers easily defeated their secret operation. Not even worthy of attention from the SISS or NIA

Lagos - A Nigerian man has been arrested for selling his wife to black magic practitioners who wanted to sacrifice a virgin, police said on Thursday.
- News24

Wonderful country

South African doctors, disaster management personal and search and rescue crews had to fly to Nigeria to assist in the church disaster- Nigeria lacks the skills for such things

patches689: South African doctors, disaster management personal and search and rescue crews had to fly to Nigeria to assist in the church disaster- Nigeria lacks the skills for such things

they were actually restricted. NEMA handled everything and it's over.. stop scoring points

patches689:

So 5 years difference between the American army's experience and south Africa's?

And Nigeria is 10000 times weaker than Germany

Good shot exactly my point, U.S.A was 15years and S.A is 20years and both countries had been involved in some kind of skirmishes between the 15 and 20 year period.

And that shows that S.A is not inexperienced