agaugust:


It's your pleasure telling open lies at random.

The archives of this forum proves you wrong.

Egypt had their last ISTAR upgrade around 2008, Nigeria upgraded 2013.

Egypt has no aircraft to match Nigerian Beechcraft and Surveyor aircraft.

NAF beats the whole of Africa in ISTAR, Egypt is under our spy satellite network like a TV, we watch them, but they cannot see us.

Nigeria has both version A and version B of Bofors, we got them in batches, some 1980s some year 2000s, they are the worlds best artillery systems, Swedish arty is world leader.

SANDF has ONLY Starstreak I version and ceiling is max 1km, one of the worst in Africa.

SANDF has no CRAM capability and no Badger IFV in service today as in your posted photo, or else Nigeria too has T-84 Oplot tanks, get it ?

Your Submarines and data-link has not helped you arrest one single pirate after 2 years of patrolling the oceans
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Your Submarines and data-link has not helped you arrest one single pirate after 2 years of patrolling the oceans

EVarn:
african bond surpassed that of any other continent or region?,what of the european union?,the NATO?,africans by nature are extremely independent people,if african bond was the best why hasnt SA sent aid,health officials into ebola zone?dlamani zuma that is preaching african solidarity,where is SA or egypt aid in somalia,libya and south sudan.even the north africans consider themselves arabs!.we need integration like NATO

postmann:
Lies Lies Lies, from glory-thieves. Sources and articles have been posted here repeatedly on this thread. It was an international operation and southafrica was not even leading the operation.


Look for another lie, boy, we gotten used to this one.

patches689:


Egypt had their last ISTAR upgrade around 2008, Nigeria upgraded 2013.

Egypt has no aircraft to match Nigerian Beechcraft and Surveyor aircra

Doesnt matter when they got it, they have better base systems than you

Nigeria has both version A and version B of Bofors, we got them in batches, some 1980s some year 2000s, they are the worlds best artillery systems, Swedish arty is world leader.

Nope, you only have the origionals from the 1980's

and your limited range artillery is no where near the best. M777 and G5 are worlds ahead.

So you are wrong there

SANDF has ONLY Starstreak I version and ceiling is max 1km, one of the worst in Africa.

Artical was posted not so long ago that clearly said we took delivery of Starstreak 2.

I also just posted a citation published before the delivery saying that they had been ordered.

So nope, wrong there as well.

SANDF has no CRAM capability and no Badger IFV in service today as in your posted photo, or else Nigeria too has T-84 Oplot tanks, get it ?

No i dont get it.

We have:

1. Badgers in South Africa in SANDF colors
2. Multiple sources outlining their order (both the badger and CRAM)

You have:

One grainy photo of unidentified armored vehicles, in a parkinglot in the Ukraine, from an unknown source

No proof whatsoever that it has been ordered.

You cannot afford the T84. And Ukraine cannot afford to sell any... I dont think you noticed.. but they are in the middle of a war right now.

Your Submarines and data-link has not helped you arrest one single pirate after 2 years of patrolling the oceans

Which is a great way of saying that you have nothing that compares.

[/size]]let me remind you: You lack -

- a data-link
- a pure blood 4th gen fighter
- submarines
- advanced missile armed frigates
- tactical vehicles
- mine clearance devices
- standardized MGL's and AGL's
- precision munitions
- dedicated attack helicopters
- modern ATGM's
- modern IFVs (or even a plan to get some)
- modern transport helo's
- capacity for EW warfare
- CRAM
- modern or modernized armour
- standardized equipment
- You also dont have enough MRAP's and Radios
- you use the AK-47

Conclusion: The Nigerian military does not compare to the SANDF in any way shape or form. We have better armor, better artillery, better naval vessels, better jet aircraft, better air-defence, better ATGM's, better combat systems, better CnC and better equipped infantry. Nigeria is a 1970's military through and through

Thanks for playing. NEXT

patches689:


Egypt had their last ISTAR upgrade around 2008, Nigeria upgraded 2013.

Egypt has no aircraft to match Nigerian Beechcraft and Surveyor aircra

Doesnt matter when they got it, they have better base systems than you

Nigeria has both version A and version B of Bofors, we got them in batches, some 1980s some year 2000s, they are the worlds best artillery systems, Swedish arty is world leader.

Nope, you only have the origionals from the 1980's

and your limited range artillery is no where near the best. M777 and G5 are worlds ahead.

So you are wrong there

SANDF has ONLY Starstreak I version and ceiling is max 1km, one of the worst in Africa.

Artical was posted not so long ago that clearly said we took delivery of Starstreak 2.

I also just posted a citation published before the delivery saying that they had been ordered.

So nope, wrong there as well.

SANDF has no CRAM capability and no Badger IFV in service today as in your posted photo, or else Nigeria too has T-84 Oplot tanks, get it ?

No i dont get it.

We have:

1. Badgers in South Africa in SANDF colors
2. Multiple sources outlining their order (both the badger and CRAM)

You have:

One grainy photo of unidentified armored vehicles, in a parkinglot in the Ukraine, from an unknown source

No proof whatsoever that it has been ordered.

You cannot afford the T84. And Ukraine cannot afford to sell any... I dont think you noticed.. but they are in the middle of a war right now.

Your Submarines and data-link has not helped you arrest one single pirate after 2 years of patrolling the oceans

Which is a great way of saying that you have nothing that compares.

[size=15pt]let me remind you: You lack -

- a data-link
- a pure blood 4th gen fighter
- submarines
- advanced missile armed frigates
- tactical vehicles
- mine clearance devices
- standardized MGL's and AGL's
- precision munitions
- dedicated attack helicopters
- modern ATGM's
- modern IFVs (or even a plan to get some)
- modern transport helo's
- capacity for EW warfare
- CRAM
- modern or modernized armour
- standardized equipment
- You also dont have enough MRAP's and Radios
- you use the AK-47

Conclusion: The Nigerian military does not compare to the SANDF in any way shape or form. We have better armor, better artillery, better naval vessels, better jet aircraft, better air-defence, better ATGM's, better combat systems, better CnC and better equipped infantry. Nigeria is a 1970's military through and through [/size]

Thanks for playing. NEXT

agaugust:


Badger IFV is NOT in service anywhere in this world, SANDF has 2 units for evaluation purpose only.

Show me in SIPRI all the following:

SANDF Badger IFV

SANDF Starstreak II SAM

SANDF CRAM Ammunition

If you cannot show me then shuut up.

Don't bring in weapons on order, Nigeria has $2 Billion worth of weapons already flowing in at Lagos seaport Abuja airport, and Markurdi airbase, crates and crates, vehicles and vehicles nobody can list them all. Get it? Oh yes you do get it !

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andrewza:



you do know that there are SA aid workers in the ebola hot zones, south sudan and somlia and SA provides concribil support to these regions. SA can only support 3000 solders beyond SA. any more and we over work our solders. To many deployments wear troops and gear out

agaugust:


Don't add to my words things I did not say.

I never mentioned race and I am the one who started anti-racism campaign on this thread when @CraigB attacked black people last year.

I said @Postmann called South Africa glory-thieves and he is very right about that. United Nations military success of about 20 countries in Congo DRC is being stolen and broadcasted as South African military achievement on this forum, so we should keep quiet and watch you guys fabricate lies and spread falsehood here?

Thief, ole, barawo banza, thiefu thiefu Jankoriko
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agaugust:



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90% of your above post is all cooked up lies
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agaugust:


Don't bring in weapons on order, Nigeria has $2 Billion worth of weapons already flowing in at Lagos seaport Abuja airport, and Markurdi airbase, crates and crates, vehicles and vehicles nobody can list them all. Get it? Oh yes you do get it !

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agaugust:


One minute google searches dispute 90% of South African comments, so easy
.

Let's see Google dispute at least 90% of these (valid) claims:

- The SANDF ranks above the NAF
- The SAAF is better equipped, more experienced than the NA
- The SAN is better equipment, better trained and more experienced than the NN
- The South African Special Forces are better trained, better recognised than the Nigerian Special Forces
- South Africa has the most advanced homegrown weapons in Africa


Google me facts to counter my facts and paste links.... if not, I will haunt you with this list till the end of 2014.

ActivateKruger:
Agububu do you remember this...



.....I answered by saying this





I'm still waiting......

ActivateKruger:


If nobody can list them, they therefore don't exist.

agaugust:


If your own laptop has no google search engine, then keep waiting till you have money to buy modern microsft software.

I am not your servant to run errands of google search for you, click each of those items you listed, get Google result in one minute and copy paste it here for us to see.

If you can't, then you may be one of the unemployed South Africans using government social benefit internet, I hear that it's always low on megabytes so you have to stingingly economize data usage.

Olodo
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agaugust:


Can you list the of Russian spy satellites and newest generation submarines correctly?

If you can't and you conclude they don't exist, then you are extremely retaarded, saying everything that is not published on internet or news media does not exist.

List the names of all demons in existence.....oh, they don't exist if we cannot list them....fool
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agaugust:



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90% of your above post is all cooked up lies
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agaugust:


Badger IFV is NOT in service anywhere in this world, SANDF has 2 units for evaluation purpose only.

Show me in SIPRI all the following:

SANDF Badger IFV

SANDF Starstreak II SAM

SANDF CRAM Ammunition

If you cannot show me then shuut up.

Don't bring in weapons on order, Nigeria has $2 Billion worth of weapons already flowing in at Lagos seaport Abuja airport, and Markurdi airbase, crates and crates, vehicles and vehicles nobody can list them all. Get it? Oh yes you do get it !

.

agaugust:


If your own laptop has no google search engine, then keep waiting till you have money to buy modern microsft software.

I am not your servant to run errands of google search for you, click each of those items you listed, get Google result in one minute and copy paste it here for us to see.

If you can't, then you may be one of the unemployed South Africans using government social benefit internet, I hear that it's always low on megabytes so you have to stingingly economize data usage.

Olodo
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patches689:


SIPRI simply lists it as Starstreak

But, we have 2 other sources that state that the Starstreak 2 was ordered and delivered.

Your argument is pathetic

SANDF CRAM Ammunition

SIPRI does not list ammunition sales.

and we have multiple sources that list its use
http://free-proxyserver.com/browse.php?u=jeG%2BQyq40mhJAbC6AavTBzDV40aQwdGnnsHcmusr5goN5QEytpY%2B4eNYZ3XpTpwtKKGMFATCGMaGQhmz7mhVAff7nWcKS37dEU1b42mAxQBWdJA51mC6zSGejqJFgEcrupRoS3LH%2BMza7XxMrNjCAoXaBqdFeaEmSeaV5dtOu1f9v2Ezsum%2F8ZXlo0l4yw%3D%3D&b=0&f=norefer


If you cannot show me then shuut up.
The only one around here who claims mythical arsenals is you

patches689:


We dont need to list the Russian sattellites to know that they exist - because we know they exist
http://www.space.com/19307-russia-launches-military-satellites.html

The new russian sub that was scareing the Swedes is suspected to be first of the Borei-class "Knyaz Oleg" which just happened to be at "sea trials" when the Swedes started freaking out

So yes, we can. What was your argument again?

ActivateKruger:


I can name one fabricator - agaugust.

Nigeria is not (even after a million years) in the Russian league, Russia builds her weapons and imports very little. So yes they can develop weapons in secrecy and store them, Nigeria IMPORTS almost all her weapons so it shouldn't be hard to count crates of weapons at the airport... If no one can count them they're therefore the Emperor's New Clothes which cannot be seen by anyone because they don't exist.

ActivateKruger:


When the article was released, SA was the best military in Africa after Egypt.

What's your point?

agaugust:


SIPRI called is Startsreak I because that is what it is, at the time and date you ordered, version II was not existing.

Yet up to 2013 the version II was still being expected in British Army service, so show me how South Africa has it

Okay you ordered it? Show me web link source to prove it, I asked 3 times and you could not answer with proof

Now I know you are in a mess like the Mokopa mess that stinks with falsehood and fake info

The craaaazyu weblink you posted above shows you are totally messed up in your own shiit and poohpooh

See what your link says about 'CRAM ammunition'....

"This site is built to help web surfer like you navigate the web worry free. With our free proxy server, you can browse the web securely knowing that your privacy is completely protected. Browsing the web through our server will mask your ip with our ip so you will remain anonymous."

That is SANDF CRAM ammunition source, abi ? You must have your head stuck inside a pit latrine soaking up the shiit

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agaugust:




List how many spy satellites Russia has, and how many new generation submarines, list the numbers because that is the only proof they exist, and how many they are in numbers.

Also list the equipment Nigeria was trying to buy for $15 million from South Africa, since the list of all imported weapons is available on internet according to you.

Also list how many Norinco AGL and MRAPS, plus SPARTARN APCs Nigeria has, since internet data is the only proof of the weapons Nigeria has imported and their numbers.

Olodo rabata .

agaugust:


Algeria is superior to South Africa, 48 latest Su-30 Flankers, 100 modern Trainer jets, BVR missiles, anti-radiation missiles, air to surface missiles, 5 air to air refuelling tankers, 36 Mi-35 Hinds, 1,000 T-72 and T-90 tanks, 38 Pantsir SAM air defense, 250,000 army regs and resvs with 11 years modern war experience, deadly assassin special forces with combat experience, 6 submarines, 13 Frigates and corvettes with missile range 250 km anti-ship. Lots of weapons South Africa cannot afford to buy with her defence budget.

Morocco is almost as strong as Algeria, so South Africa is lost far behind even Ethiopia.

You South Africans are just fools with minds locked up in prison by the ANC that deceives you daily with false information that you have the best country in everything in the whole of Africa, you live in a fully hypnotized condition and mind bondage of delusions .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppsigGLPfPY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg3fmQ4aisI

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agaugust:




List how many spy satellites Russia has, and how many new generation submarines, list the numbers because that is the only proof they exist, and how many they are in numbers.

Also list the equipment Nigeria was trying to buy for $15 million from South Africa, since the list of all imported weapons is available on internet according to you.

Also list how many Norinco AGL and MRAPS, plus SPARTARN APCs Nigeria has, since internet data is the only proof of the weapons Nigeria has imported and their numbers.

Olodo rabata .

Henry120:
Over Fifty terrorists died yesterday afternoon as
troops raided their hideout in Kawuri before
setting out on a planned attack on Konduga.
One Fabricated Artillery Gun, Two Anti – Aircraft
gun, an armoured vehicle and assorted types of
ammunition were captured in the process. Some
hardware, weapons, food items and personal
belongings were also destroyed in the Raid.
One Officer and Two Soldiers were seriously
wounded.
www.defenceinfo.mil.ng/troops-raid-terrorists-hideout-in-kawuri-over-50-dead/

Msauza:




HOW COULD YOU ALSO FAIL TO INFORM US THAT BH CAPTURED YET ANOTHER CITY.

http://leadership.ng/news/388641/boko-haram-captures-mubi-town-adamawa

Patchesagain:


Refer to the archives, Starstreak 2 confirmed by defenceweb

And even Starstreak 1 has a 6km range and 5km altitude

The Mach 3 Starstreak I missile introduced in 1997 features a maximum parabolic range of 6,000 meters against airborne targets flying below 5,000 meters of altitude.

http://www.deagel.com/Surface-to-Air-Missiles/Starstreak_a001059001.aspx

AHEAD Ammo - Denel Dual Purpose 35mm
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6656:fact-file-denel-35mm-dual-purpose-gun&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159

What were you saying?