andrewza:



You should watch the documentary of the task force.

What task force...... Canadian joint task force, don't call south-africa.

DieVluit:


Would you rather we chopped his testicles off and hung him by his toes for no less than three weeks?

On what legal grounds is a few years in jail for killing a human being not justice?

Let alone the fact that the selfsame justice system has allowed for the sentence and verdict to be appealed...

Okay white boy, let's send one angry Zulu man to chop off your head with a mtchete, he goes to jail and eat free food in free bedroom at governments expense for a few years, after which he walks out into city life again a free man, while your own family keep crying about your death, that will be justice to you inside the grave.....right? Ode, odenson

Patchesagain:


South Africa is a civilized nation committed to human rights

There is no death penalty, you heathen.

That's why South Africans are happy to commit murder.

Civilized nation my foot ! America is 100 times more civilized than your shiit hole South Africa, yet we have death sentence in many states of America, you commit murder and government will superglue your azz to electric chair, na high voltage shock go kill y.ou !

Patchesagain:


I have shown that South Africa is not the worlds Aids, Murder or Rape capital many times.

I have also shown that South Africa is X55 better to live in than Nigeria.

You actually showed nothing and proved nothing !
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Msauza:



Nigerians are the world no 1 drug peddlers more than any country on the mother earth.

Prove it.

South Africans are irredeemable drug addicts.

If there are no drug users there will be no drug peddlers in your hemp and cocaine enslaved ANC republic
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Patchesagain:


What Alpha jets?

Ivory Coast Airforce was destroyed by the French in 2004

NAF landed before the French attack, and the French destroyed Su-25 Frogfoot that attacked them, not Alpha jets....dummy.

agaugust:

Prove it.

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2007 article:


http://www.economist.com/node/10263174

Nigeria's drug trade
That's all they needed

Illicit drugs flow in from all over and then flow out to Europe

Last year 44% of the west African drug-traffickers arrested in Europe were Nigerian (compared with 3% from Guinea-Bissau). Drugs have been trickling across Nigeria's borders since the 1980s, but over the past few years the trickle has become a torrent.

Patchesagain:


2 day battle and a cease-fire forced on the enemy is now a panicked escape?

lol - ok

2 day battle? Where? How? When?

SANDF Elite Paratroopers (Forever lost their title of 'Elite' after the battle) and Special Forces (Demoted to 'Ordinary Forces' after Seleka's bashing) lasted only 13 to 18 hours in the claws of Seleka farmer rebels before SANDF catapulted themselves into Bangui airport speaking French language under tension, sweating and stammering in the process, nevertheless the French army understood their babbling as saliva flowed endlessly like lapping dogs from South African army officers mouth, they understood because the SANDF white flag was still in their hands, symbol of Seleka superiority in battle.....this history cannot be rewritten
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Patchesagain:


No, Nigerian Doctors and mathematics teachers have fled Nigeria for a better life in South Africa.

No, it's the South African professionals and executives of Shoprite, MTN, SASOL, and Stanbic Bank that have fled South Africa for a better life in Nigeria
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Patchesagain:


70% of Nigerians cannot afford to shop anywhere since they live on under a dollar per day.

you are a f00l if you believe that n0nsense,$1 is not even up to half of the money most nigerians use in boarding taxies to and fro everyday.

Patchesagain:


Olifant is now wholly South African

As is the Rooikat, Rooivalk, G5, G6, Casspir, IED/Mine Clearance Vehicals, Mortars, radio's, optics, tranpsort vehicals, MRAP transport vehicals, tactical transport vehicals, supply vessel (biggest built in africa)

Not to mention domestic upgrades on the Super Puma (to Oryx), Hawk, Valour Class, C130's etc etc etc

Only a minority of our weapons are imported

100% of Nigerian weapons are imported or produced as copies in Nigeria.

If we remove the key European made imported Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Heroine Submarine from SANDF aresenal, Angola will defeat South Africa in one day.

Your DENEL home made weapons can only save you from Burundi and Swaziland
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Patchesagain:


SAAF has 60 years of combat deployments under its belt.

From the skies of Germany to Angola - we have more Aces than you have pilots

Reminder: No Nigerian pilot has ever shot down a single enemy aircraft

Reminder: No single South African pilot has ever used your current Gripen and Hawk jets to sh.oot down a single enemy aircraft. Your pilots are even not combat qualified to use Gripen jet in war. Ancient Mirage jets of Angloan war got SAAF defeated by teenage Cuban pilots, you never shot d.own Cuban MiG-23 jets air to air.

SAAF has no aces by world standard, Gripen jet ace, whom did he shoot down with a Gripen.... Kenya Airways 747 ?
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agaugust:


Reminder: No single South African pilot has ever used your current Gripen and Hawk jets to sh.oot down a single enemy aircraft. Your pilots are even not combat qualified to use Gripen jet in war. Ancient Mirage jets of Angloan war got SAAF defeated by teenage Cuban pilots, you never shot d.own Cuban MiG-23 jets air to air.

SAAF has no aces by world standard, Gripen jet ace, whom did he shoot down with a Gripen.... Kenya Airways 747 ?
.

Fly your rust bucket F7 jets into Australian airspace against Australian fighter pilots who have also never used their most modern fighter jets to shoot down a single enemy aircraft. And let us see how many seconds it will take them to turn you into minced meat. You see how useless your point is?

All SAAF Gripen pilots are fully trained on their machines. And have gone through air combat flying before they even put a big toe inside a Gripen.

Patchesagain:


How is dangote raping our economy?

You forget how many companies we have establishing monopolys in your country... and you come here and talk of some cement manufacturer who isnt even in Africa's top 50?

You are a stale joke at this point.

Monopoly is NOT allowed in Nigeria by law. MTN has competition from Nigerian Globacom and Visafone.

Dangote is azz räping South African economy he removed 1 billion Rands from the pockets of your brainless corporate executives and BEE sponsored incompetent shareholders....Dangote sallowed your billion rands and you are crying unable to do anything.....foolish nation
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Patchesagain:


Citation needed

Citation needed

Liar.

You need someone to give you citation on how Britain failed to defeat IRA terrorists on British soil for 27 years? Lol...see why I said Hyundai Heavy Industries will never employ a retaard like you and make you an expatriate worker in South Korea

agaugust:


No, it's the South African professionals and executives of Shoprite, MTN, SASOL, and Stanbic Bank that have fled South Africa for a better life in Nigeria
.

Yes - to live as colonialists - fleecing Nigerians for days on end. That's how colonialism works. As the formerly colonised Africans flock to Europe, so shall the Nigerians flock to South Africa.

agaugust:


Monopoly is NOT allowed in Nigeria by law. MTN has competition from Nigerian Globacom and Visafone.

Dangote is azz räping South African economy he removed 1 billion Rands from the pockets of your brainless corporate executives and BEE sponsored incompetent shareholders....Dangote sallowed your billion rands and you are crying unable to do anything.....foolish nation
.

Not allowed by law but seized by force by the South Africans. The competition you speak of is really no competition. They are also-rans and nothing more than that...

Patchesagain:


You know nothing of the law, yet you argue?

There are prescribed sentences for such things. Oscar was found guilty of Culpable Homicide (man-slaughter) which holds a light sentence. He is not guilty of murder.

South Africa follows a model of reformative justice, not your archaic system of punitive justice.

Your justice system has not reformed any criminal, your ràpists continue to ràpe the more, while your murders continue to murder beyond control.

South African people are deformed beyond any reformation
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Patchesagain:


1. Ridiculous demand
2. Citation needed
3. Citation needed
4. Ridiculous demand

Stop wasting our time, and the irony that it was you whom complained about the quality of this thread

Yes, and my complaint is valid until you show us evidence that South Africa is issuing asylum papers to Nigerians instead of normal immigrant visas. You made claims without any evidence to prove it, that's bad quality for this thread. Fraudster !
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agaugust:


Your justice system has not reformed any criminal
.

Citation needed.

And in addition, you failed to respond to the issue of culpable homicide and prescribed sentences for that.

Patchesagain:


Citation needed
ANd btw, countries like the UK and US have increased Visa restrictions on Nigeria because of your criminal nature
https://www.passportvisasexpress.com/visa_services/nigeria/country_news

Here in Seoul, the only people who deal drugs are Nigerians in Itaewon. Think about that for a second. As far away as Korea, its not Triad's, its not the Russian mob, its not Filipino street gangs, its definitely not the Koreans themselves... its Nigerias who are the drug dealers - the country furthest from Korea.

What is it about Nigerians and crime?

You will be happy to know that Koreans dislike Nigerians just as much as everyone else in the world

You truly are a nation of criminals.

South Africans are still the räpe masters, and murder champions of Africa. No controversy.
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agaugust:

South Africans are still the räpe masters, and murder champions of Africa
.

How does that address the argument that Nigerians travel to South Africa as refugees and sell drugs?

Seems you've lost your way...

saengine:
I miss the days when this thread was about military matters

Anyways.....confirmed projects for SANDF 2015

- Serial production and acceptance of A-Darter AAM



- Serial production and acceptance of Badger IFV



- Purchase/upgrade of new heavy weight torpedo for submarines


Known projects currently at Armscor tender stage
- Aquisition of three inshore and three offshore patrol vessels (tenders close June 2015)

Projects at development phase with Armscor and Denel

- Marlin family of long range radar guided surface to air missile
- Continued work on Umkhonto land based surface to air missile for SA Army GBADS program



Unconfirmed projects
- Purchase of Seeker 400 UAV by SA Air Force
- Purchase and apparent operation of defence intelligence spy satellite

Show us proof of money released, you have no money for new weapons, cannot even afford one single Mokopa ATGM....SANDF is broke long term....your military under a self imposed arms embargo....cashless and penniless
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agaugust:



Show us proof of money released, you have no money for new weapons, cannot even afford one single Mokopa ATGM....SANDF is broke long term....your military under a self imposed arms embargo....cashless and penniless
.

Shame you didnt know. The budget speech was on Wednesday.


Projects for this year and their funds

http://www.treasury.gov.za/documents/national%20budget/2015/enebooklets/Vote%2019%20Defence%20and%20Military%20Veterans.pdf

Now kindly sit down.

Henry120:


I differ, this isn't world war II.

However, man, the drill is very fvcking intense. These FSB guys showed a deep mental and tactical discipline. The drill was perfect, it had to be. To think they also perform this drill with assault weapon shows their weapons handling and trigger discipline is flawless.

Impressive!


If i'm a hostage, and had luxury of choosing my rescuers, it has to be the Russian FSB, Alpha group guys. I've seen enough to conclude definitively.

They still don't give an arse mate about their men.

They led FAPLA in 1987 even when SA forces and UNITA gave their forces a hiding, they'd still attack.

The spetsnaz deployed in Angola, received aversion
therapy too not bragging or anything but the Recces out performed them.

You don't wanna die of inhaling strange gas don't you?

I'd prefer our SF, STF or the British SAS.

saengine:
http://m.mg.co.za/article/2015-02-26-sa-spied-on-own-government-to-get-facts-on-100m-russian-deal

MORE ON SPY SATELLITE - LEAKED SPY CABLES REVEAL MORE DETAILS ON SECRET PROJECT


South Africa’s intelligence service relied on a spy “with direct access to the Russian government” to find out details of its own government’s involvement in a $100-million joint satellite surveillance programme with Russia, the leaked spy cables obtained by Al-Jazeera and shared with The Guardian reveal.

The satellite system, known as Project Condor, which was launched into orbit by Russia in December last year, provides surveillance coverage of the entire African continent. The project has been shrouded in secrecy, with Russia originally refusing to reveal who its client was.Those in the dark appear to have included South Africa’s intelligence agency. But a South African agent with access to Russian military intelligence was able to help, according to a leaked espionage report marked “top secret” and dated August 28 2012.

The intelligence report records a briefing from an agent codenamed “Agent Africanist”, who is identified as having direct links with the government in Moscow and Russian intelligence officers, including those closely involved in the joint satellite project.SurveillanceProject Condor would, the agent reported, place “South Africa in a position to conduct its own aerial surveillance in Africa, potentially right up to Israel for strategic military purposes”.

You CANNOT buy military satellite and escape United Nations arms log registration, both buyer and seller will be in violation of legally binding UN Convention on arms transfer.

South Africa has no space satellite until confirmed by the Russians who manufacture it. Then Kondor-E is an ordinary satellite not a spy satellite.....Russian sources proved the specifications.

Dream on bro , hallucinations are free if charge, even street beggars have them
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Henry120:


What task force...... Canadian joint task force, don't call south-africa.

They did a similar thing, using other members as hostages while using live ammo.

agaugust:


If we remove the key European made imported Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Heroine Submarine from SANDF aresenal, Angola will defeat South Africa in one day.

Your DENEL home made weapons can only save you from Burundi and Swaziland
.

SA defeated Angolan forces without those weapons in 87.

MikeCZAR:
They still don't give an arse mate about their men.

They led FAPLA in 1987 even when SA forces and UNITA gave their forces a hiding, they'd still attack.

The spetsnaz deployed in Angola, received aversion
therapy too not bragging or anything but the Recces out performed them.

You don't wanna die of inhaling strange gas don't you?

I'd prefer our SF, STF or the British SAS.

You made your choice, for me, Alpha Group it is.

DieVluit:


2007 article:


http://www.economist.com/node/10263174

Nigeria's drug trade
That's all they needed

Illicit drugs flow in from all over and then flow out to Europe

Last year 44% of the west African drug-traffickers arrested in Europe were Nigerian (compared with 3% from Guinea-Bissau). Drugs have been trickling across Nigeria's borders since the 1980s, but over the past few years the trickle has become a torrent.

Fool, you proved nothing !

The biggest drug dealers in the world are Italian mafia, Mexican drug barons, and Colombian drug lords.

Your source talked only about Europe, the drug peddlers of Mexico and Colombia trade in America.

Your source only talks about arrested peddlers, what of those who successfully carry drugs all over the world and are never caught or jailed?

See how many holes I picked in your foolish juvenile comment, you boy must be getting a lot of mental capacity upgrade and brain improvement for free by talking with Nigerians on Nairaland, sure you are the smartest boy in your school by now and even your Southie school teachers will be amazed about how much Nigerians have transformed an empty headed Southie student just in a few weeks !
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saengine:


Fly your rust bucket F7 jets into Australian airspace against Australian fighter pilots who have also never used their most modern fighter jets to shoot down a single enemy aircraft. And let us see how many seconds it will take them to turn you into minced meat. You see how useless your point is?

All SAAF Gripen pilots are fully trained on their machines. And have gone through air combat flying before they even put a big toe inside a Gripen.

NAF F-7 jets are not rusty, they came in 2010 and are newer than your Gripen jets.

SAAF Gripens have no BVR missile, so you have to engage NAF F-7 jets at close range as we both have short range missiles, we both die together in the air battle. FACT
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agaugust:


You CANNOT buy military satellite and escape United Nations arms log registration, both buyer and seller will be in violation of legally binding UN Convention on arms transfer.

South Africa has no space satellite until confirmed by the Russians who manufacture it. Then Kondor-E is an ordinary satellite not a spy satellite.....Russian sources proved the specifications.

Dream on bro , hallucinations are free if charge, even street beggars have them
.

Shame. I can feel your jealousy. From u bragging last year that South Africa has no defence satellite. Confirmed by our Defence Secretary last year that our military satellite project was on track and on schedule for launch. And right on time last year, Kondor E satellite is launched. Spy capable confirm...Kondor E satellite was for the SANDF. 30 Russian technicians working in SA on the project. Go cry in your corner.