cjrane:

I usually don't read this thread because i think it is meaningless. Nigeria and South Africa will never go into an armed conflict so that all the noise in this thread can not be tested. So i see it as pure speculative waste of time.

But i wish to point out a fallacy in your statement "Or Angola where we embarsed the cuban army". This statement is completely false.
The Cubans disgraced SADF and did win the Angolan conflict with MPLA remaining in power and Jonas Savimbi even killed in action.Perhaps you were too young to know the truth or you believed the propaganda they fed you in South Africa.

Indeed, the dismantling of apartheid and release of Dr. Nelson Mandela were part of Cuban demands before they would withdraw their forces and stop killing the then SADF.Indeed if it were not for fear of provoking a major US military intervention, the Cubans had every means of crossing the border into South Africa and sacking the racist regime in Pretoria. The SADF was not any obstacle at all. Have you asked yourself why Cuba (Fidel Castro) was about the first country and world leader that Dr. Mandela visited immediately he was released?

agaugust: PUBLIC RECORDS AND EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO THE WHOLE WORLD PROVES THAT CUBA DEFEATED SOUTH AFRICAN MILITARY NEAR THEIR HOME LAND ON AFRICAN SOIL.


(1) south african ex-president Thabo Mbeki declares the truth confirming that cuba defeated south african military on african home soil


QUOTE : "As we conversed with our hosts, we recollected the period in our region which ended just over a decade ago, which saw the involvement of

apartheid South Africa in a massive and concerted effort to impose its will on the region and thus extend the life of the apartheid crime against humanity.

Cuba's contribution to the defeat of that campaign of aggression and destabilisation against independent Africa was, of course, particularly exemplified by

its decisive involvement in the military struggle to defeat the apartheid forces that had invaded Angola soon after that country's independence from

Portugal.

The Cuban forces were to stay in Angola for over a decade. That stay ended only when, after their defeat at Cuito Cuanavale, the apartheid invaders

(south african military) understood that they would never be able to realise their objectives and that the Angolan people should have the freedom to determine their future. With

that realisation came the understanding in Pretoria that it could not dictate to the independent African states through the use of force. Neither could it

hold back the tide leading to the independence of Namibia and the liberation of South Africa."

browse full details on :
http://www.afrocubaweb.com/southafrica.htm



(2) wikipedia south african border war declares that cuba defeated south african military on african soil

QUOTE : " Cuba considerably reinforced its troops in Angola and came to the defence of the besieged FAPLA; the South African advance was stopped at

the Battle of Cuito Cuanavale, the largest battle in Africa since World War II, in which both sides have claimed victory. The bulk of the Cuban forces

advanced towards Namibia further to the west, threatening to cut off the SADF-Forces (south african military) remaining at Cuito. On 27 June 1988, Cuban MiG-23 fighters

bombed the Calueque hydro-electric complex at 16.7367°S 14.9669°E, disabling it and killing 12 SADF soldiers. For some analysts the stalemate at

Cuito and the death toll and vulnerability to Cuban MiGs was viewed with apprehension (fear) by the SADF (south african military )and may have had some bearing on the fact that a

peace accord was agreed soon afterwards."

browse full details on :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War

mchidi: I think nigerian military is the best in africa coz we got the number and also the equipment and also u can't compare sA with nigeria coz dey gat no war experience at all dey have nat fought any war at all yet dey compare SA to nigerian,that just the first point if nigeria decides to close all MTN & DSTV offices in SA will suffer huge economic loss coz nigeria is there largest market in africa so if south africa decides 2 pick a fight wit nigerian they will lose in the long run and remember nigeria is ECOMOG and ECOMOG is nigeria

agaugust: PUBLIC RECORDS AND EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO THE WHOLE WORLD PROVES THAT CUBA DEFEATED SOUTH AFRICAN MILITARY NEAR THEIR HOME LAND ON AFRICAN SOIL.


(1) south african ex-president Thabo Mbeki declares the truth confirming that cuba defeated south african military on african home soil


QUOTE : "As we conversed with our hosts, we recollected the period in our region which ended just over a decade ago, which saw the involvement of

apartheid South Africa in a massive and concerted effort to impose its will on the region and thus extend the life of the apartheid crime against humanity.

Cuba's contribution to the defeat of that campaign of aggression and destabilisation against independent Africa was, of course, particularly exemplified by

its decisive involvement in the military struggle to defeat the apartheid forces that had invaded Angola soon after that country's independence from

Portugal.

The Cuban forces were to stay in Angola for over a decade. That stay ended only when, after their defeat at Cuito Cuanavale, the apartheid invaders

(south african military) understood that they would never be able to realise their objectives and that the Angolan people should have the freedom to determine their future. With

that realisation came the understanding in Pretoria that it could not dictate to the independent African states through the use of force. Neither could it

hold back the tide leading to the independence of Namibia and the liberation of South Africa."

browse full details on :
http://www.afrocubaweb.com/southafrica.htm



(2) wikipedia south african border war declares that cuba defeated south african military on african soil

QUOTE : " Cuba considerably reinforced its troops in Angola and came to the defence of the besieged FAPLA; the South African advance was stopped at

the Battle of Cuito Cuanavale, the largest battle in Africa since World War II, in which both sides have claimed victory. The bulk of the Cuban forces

advanced towards Namibia further to the west, threatening to cut off the SADF-Forces (south african military) remaining at Cuito. On 27 June 1988, Cuban MiG-23 fighters

bombed the Calueque hydro-electric complex at 16.7367°S 14.9669°E, disabling it and killing 12 SADF soldiers. For some analysts the stalemate at

Cuito and the death toll and vulnerability to Cuban MiGs was viewed with apprehension (fear) by the SADF (south african military )and may have had some bearing on the fact that a

peace accord was agreed soon afterwards."

browse full details on :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War

agaugust: EX-PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI OF SOUTH AFRICA HAS PUBLICLY ADMITTED THAT CUBA DEFEATED HIS OWN COUNTRY SOUTH AFRICA IN MILITARY COMBAT. CASE CLOSED, PEOPLE ON THIS SITE SHOULD FIND A NEW TOPIC TO DISCUSS. CASE CLOSED BY EX-PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI.

mchidi: SA is so bleeped up they said they have all those weapons,but I have one question for sA will those weapons,jet,gun fire by their selves,do they have soldiers with the balls to go into combat. And you guys also said nigerian soldiers uses rusty taped ak47 but with those rusty gun we achieved a lot than sA who claim they have all those weapons

agaugust: EX-PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI OF SOUTH AFRICA HAS PUBLICLY ADMITTED THAT CUBA DEFEATED HIS OWN COUNTRY SOUTH AFRICA IN MILITARY COMBAT. CASE CLOSED, PEOPLE ON THIS SITE SHOULD FIND A NEW TOPIC TO DISCUSS. CASE CLOSED BY EX-PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI.

mchidi: SA is so bleeped up they said they have all those weapons,but I have one question for sA will those weapons,jet,gun fire by their selves,do they have soldiers with the balls to go into combat. And you guys also said nigerian soldiers uses rusty taped ak47 but with those rusty gun we achieved a lot than sA who claim they have all those weapons

Msauza: What about Multichoice, PEP, Game, Shoprite, Spur, Shopping malls, standard bank, lottery and MTN we have invested in Nigeria. You are nothing without South Africa's investments. When other countries abandoned you by labelling you as terrorists we as South Africa we were there for you. You started to experience world class shopping malls because of us and that's how you are paying us. Tafiakwa, nonsense.

Msauza: What about Multichoice, PEP, Game, Shoprite, Spur, Shopping malls, standard bank, lottery and MTN we have invested in Nigeria. You are nothing without South Africa's investments. When other countries abandoned you by labelling you as terrorists we as South Africa we were there for you. You started to experience world class shopping malls because of us and that's how you are paying us. Tafiakwa, nonsense.

Msauza:

Dear Mchudi: it is evident that your knowledge about military is very limited. You have asserted that SA does not have a history of engaging in war. In actual facts SA has a vast historical experience in war as compared to Nigeria. SA played an increasing role in both the 1st and 2nd world war. Notwithstanding, the fact that the longest war fought on African soil, that is the border war. Prior the border war SA waged war against the Germans in Namibia formerly known as South West Africa and overpowered them to seize Namibia to their power. Namibia remained the colony of SA for many years until SWAPO (political party in SWA/Namibia) called for independence from SA with the help of Angola and Cuba. That conflict marked the beginning of 23 year long war fought in the African Soil which was dubbed South African border war.

There are currently no sources which will ever conclude as to who won the battle between SA, Angola and Cuba. Aside Egypt, there was no any other country in Africa that could match or ever challenge SA in the battlefield. In the past South Africa used to enjoy the status of being called the Superpowers of Africa.

Msauza:

Dear Mchudi: it is evident that your knowledge about military is very limited. You have asserted that SA does not have a history of engaging in war. In actual facts SA has a vast historical experience in war as compared to Nigeria. SA played an increasing role in both the 1st and 2nd world war. Notwithstanding, the fact that the longest war fought on African soil, that is the border war. Prior the border war SA waged war against the Germans in Namibia formerly known as South West Africa and overpowered them to seize Namibia to their power. Namibia remained the colony of SA for many years until SWAPO (political party in SWA/Namibia) called for independence from SA with the help of Angola and Cuba. That conflict marked the beginning of 23 year long war fought in the African Soil which was dubbed South African border war.

There are currently no sources which will ever conclude as to who won the battle between SA, Angola and Cuba. Aside Egypt, there was no any other country in Africa that could match or ever challenge SA in the battlefield. In the past South Africa used to enjoy the status of being called the Superpowers of Africa.

Msauza:

Dear Mchudi: it is evident that your knowledge about military is very limited. You have asserted that SA does not have a history of engaging in war. In actual facts SA has a vast historical experience in war as compared to Nigeria. SA played an increasing role in both the 1st and 2nd world war. Notwithstanding, the fact that the longest war fought on African soil, that is the border war. Prior the border war SA waged war against the Germans in Namibia formerly known as South West Africa and overpowered them to seize Namibia to their power. Namibia remained the colony of SA for many years until SWAPO (political party in SWA/Namibia) called for independence from SA with the help of Angola and Cuba. That conflict marked the beginning of 23 year long war fought in the African Soil which was dubbed South African border war.

There are currently no sources which will ever conclude as to who won the battle between SA, Angola and Cuba. Aside Egypt, there was no any other country in Africa that could match or ever challenge SA in the battlefield. In the past South Africa used to enjoy the status of being called the Superpowers of Africa.

snydergp:

Ameteur why are u even on this topic please play with ur toys

shymexx:

And who won the olympics medal - the masters or the slaves?? Slaves won zilch!!! At least a naija boy won a gold medal in heavy weight boxing for the UK and he's also proud of Nigeria!!

Don't even talk about looks - SA blacks look like midgets with down syndrome!!

Your head shape looks funny!!! bwahahahahahaha

shymexx:

And who won the olympics medal - the masters or the slaves?? Slaves won zilch!!! At least a naija boy won a gold medal in heavy weight boxing for the UK and he's also proud of Nigeria!!

Don't even talk about looks - SA blacks look like midgets with down syndrome!!

Your head shape looks funny!!! bwahahahahahaha

shymexx:

And who won the olympics medal - the masters or the slaves?? Slaves won zilch!!! At least a naija boy won a gold medal in heavy weight boxing for the UK and he's also proud of Nigeria!!

Don't even talk about looks - SA blacks look like midgets with down syndrome!!

Your head shape looks funny!!! bwahahahahahaha

mchidi: hey stop talking foolishly nigeria had the highest amount of medals in the paralympics is a disabled even works hard than a disabled sa(blacks)coz their whites has totally dominated the sport world in sa

Msauza:

Mchudi- I will advise you to go and see a psychiatrist for a check-up. I am not sure if Nigeria has a quality services for your treatment. Unfortunately it's only in South Africa and abroad where you can be offered the best of such therapy. You are really sick and we are not going to entertain your madness any further because the last time we checked, Nigeria never won even a single medal in the last Olympics. Moreover, blacks and whites in SA are referred to as South African and it's not us who cursed Nigeria not to have whites and become a diversified nation.