agaugust: nigerian military does not favour public display of photos of its weaponry except during rare occasion for public ceremonies, that is the nigerian military tradition. i want to post the few photos you can ever get of nigerian military, few because it is a very secretive force due to its british army doctrine, and you will hardly ever see photo of nigerian military firing live ordinance in weapons exercise.

agaugust: nigerian military photos above is ATR-42 ocean patrol aircraft for maritime naval operation, escorted by light attack jets.

next is the most modern russian made attack helicopter gunships

that is followed by nigerian navy anti-submarine helicopter on board a warship flight deck

agaugust: nigerian navy new stealth 95m missile carrying state of the art corvette, two almost ready at china shipyard. delivery soon and fittet with latest electronic warfare, anti-ship missiles, anti-submarine weaponry, ans anti-aircraft missiles. it will carry helicopter on deck. two are coming. and each ship costs $160m

agaugust: amebo-2 drone UAV 100% made in nigeria already operational, amebo-3 is on the way to be showed to public, bigger and more advanced

agaugust: nigerian army night warfare troopers with night vision equipments

agaugust: nigerian helicopter dropping special forces newly trained in israel

agaugust: nigerian navy new special forces training in lagos with british royal navy marine commandoes

second photo is one of the 3 newly delivered nigerian navy israeli made sophisticated shaldag fast attack crafts
flanked by special forces commandoes boats. nigerian navy has over 300 new modern fast attack crafts of various sizes up to missile equipped
sizes and it is the largest fast attack craft fleet in the whole of africa, even egypt cannot match that marine operational force.

agaugust: nigerian ss espionage new force with world class guns not AK-47

agaugust: Phalanx CIWS anti-missile defence radar guided weapon on nigerian navy ship NNS THUNDER. a second similiar ship has been ordered. ALL US NAVY ships carry same phalanx to shoot down any incoming missiles or bombs.

agaugust: Nigerian army has this self propelled italian artillery Palmaria 155mm SPH, the nigerian army photo of palmaria is too heavy to upload because of the kilobytes disk space, so i posted along this one from army of argentina that uses palmaria mobile artillery along with italy and nigeria.

agaugust: yes that is true talk you said, i know for many years ago that south africa has best mobile artillery in the world. i dont have every details of the nigerian gunships but i know they are new deliveries first squadron about 2007, second squadron 2013-2014. i dont want to research every detail of every nigerian weapons one by one, i wont get paid for the research job and the military HQ will never give me details, only friends in officer cadre give me information, and i dont want to start making them suspect me of spying for american CIA against nigeria, they know i work with an american private company that is into military consultancy business in the USA. i have to be careful how ask them details that they dont give the public, we have a very secretive military doctrine from old school britain.

i want to make a post tomorrow, no one should be offended because i need to reply syndergp comments on old nigerian weapons, the post is specially for him to read when i do it tomorrow. after that i will ask why nobody has accepted my challenge to play war games and show example of how nigeria versus south africa war will end after full combat, even though i am of the opinion that it will end in a stalemate of no winner no loser, africa's most bloody and endless war, and a foolish war too. millions of peple will die for no good reason.

agaugust: andrewza talks good sence and i think he is the most serious, fair and honest among the 3 south africans here on this topic. msauza and syndergp dont talk with honesty and good intentions, all they want is to run down nigerian military which they dont know about in detail. any nigerian weapon they say is bad, even if it is the latest technology in the waorl for that equipment. i wont follow what anybody else ranks, i will do my own baseed on what i know. even in USA where i work, i had to list newly acquired nigerian weapons for some white officers to assess, they dont feed their brain with african data because we are not a continent of military importance at world level.

dont just use your mouth msauza, use your thinking too, okay ? i dont want to sound rude but i can only respect you if you show good thinking. all this ranking we are doing will not earn us one dollar, naira or rands. we are just showing our interest in military affairs of africa, so if you rank south africa as number 1 and even overrate your military, it will not win you a war. when real war comes, your military will face reality and mouth talk and web posting propaganda will not defeat nigeria on battle field. remember the bush war south africa versus cuba, at the time the whole world highly rated south african military they did not win a war close to their homeland against a tiny country cuba that had to travel and fight 12,000 kilometers away from home. i have posted the proof of that war results here already last year december, you want me to repeat it again ?

[b]experienced military analysts will not rate you too high because you manufacture and stockpile weapons but you dont engage in far away major combat and real bloody battlefield engagement with forces inside another country's territory the way nigerian military does almost every year for the past 20 years. yesterday we flew almost 1,000 infantry to mali to face rebels armed with ghaddafi's stolen heavy weapons and missiles, even france had to use latest rafale jets to stop the mali rebels last week. nigeria does not have grippen but we use what we have to test our true combat ability in war, not on paper list of equipment you store in your own the armoury. we are deploying our F-7 jets to mali for real live combat today world news confirmed it, and then msauza you ask me when last nigeria played war games? we dont just play hollywood movie type of games that south africa plays at home, nigeria moves into the most dangerious battles in african countries thousands of kilometers away form our home and we go there to die like true soldiers not military on paper that never fights real war and overrates itself as number 1 in africa. [/b]

msauza do you know how to think and be honest? if you do, then good indeed, but if not, thats your problem not mine. people who read your post and my posts will rate our brainwork and conclusions according to the way we argue our points.

use your military in real war and let your soldiers die the way american soldier dies in thousands in iraq, then the intelligent analyst can rank you if you truly deserve number one position. remember your bush war results, you had french mirage jets in south african airforce and tiny cuba broke broke through your highly rated air defences with russian mig jets to blow up the great caleuque hydryo dam right under the noses of south africa's highly rated military forces occupying the area....then your government called for ceasefire negotiations after that...and the cubans almost pincer formation your army to cut off south african flank guard and rear guard....then your government called for peace negotiations.....and you began to avoid major volatile war zones of death since that time over 20 years ago.

my friend people read your post and they read mine, the people have brains that work and they will judge intelligently. your personal opinion does not change the truth and facts publicly disclosed.

read this quote i extracted from public sources below :

"The area was of considerable strategic importance, providing the pretext for the initial 1975 South African military intervention in the Angolan Civil War when staff at the facility were threatened by guerrillas.[3] Full intervention through Operation Savannah followed shortly afterwards.

Throughout the Angolan Civil war Calueque remained continuously occupied by South African forces. In 1988, during the Battle of Cuito Cuanavale, the Cubans opened a second front against the South Africans and launched a massive ground offensive in the direction of Calueque. The area to the north of the dam became the scene of bloody fighting which proved to be a turning point in the war. On 27 June 1988, the South Africans retreated across the dam to Southwest Africa and the same day Cuban MiG-23 fighters attacked the facilities. The first wave of aircraft bombed the bridge and sluice gates, killing a soldier in the process. Another wave bombed the pump and generator, while a third destroyed the pipeline to Ovamboland. Significantly, one of the last bombs hit the position of eleven South African soldiers nearby who had exited their Buffel troop carrier to watch the events unfold. The dam and pipelines were considerably damaged, rendering the scheme inoperable"

The Calueque Dam and bridge has not been repaired since it was damaged in 1988"

the above information is available on web links with photos of south african dead soldiers coffins draped with national flags

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calueque

http://web.archive.org/web/20080120211559/http://uk.geocities.com/sasolboy/calueque.html

agaugust: andrewza talks good sense and i think he is the most serious, fair and honest among the 3 south africans here on this topic. msauza and syndergp dont talk with honesty and good intentions, all they want is to run down nigerian military which they dont know about in detail. any nigerian weapon i post here they say its bad, even if it is the latest technology in the world for that equipment you say its bad or you avoid comment on it. i wont follow what anybody else ranks, i will do my own based on what i know. even in USA where i work, i had to list newly acquired nigerian weapons for some white officers to assess, they dont feed their brain with african data because we are not a continent of military importance at world level.

dont just use your mouth msauza, use your thinking too, okay ? i dont want to sound rude but i can only respect you if you show good thinking. all this ranking we are doing will not earn us one dollar, naira or rands. we are just showing our interest in military affairs of africa, so if you rank south africa as number 1 and even overrate your military, it will not win you a war. when real war comes, your military will face reality and mouth talk and web posting propaganda will not defeat nigeria on battle field. remember the bush war south africa versus cuba, at the time the whole world highly rated south african military they did not win a war close to their homeland against a tiny country cuba that had to travel and fight 12,000 kilometers away from home. i have posted the proof of that war results here already last year december, you want me to repeat it again ?

nigeria has a perfect military success record in real wars not on paper list of equipment and photos and videos of weapons testing. biafra war with almost half a million soldiers fighting on both sides total combined figure, liberia war, sierra leone war, somalia war, sudan war, and today mali war. niegrian military never lost a war, nigerian military never retreated on any battlefield fontline.

south african military almost lost its only major war near homeland, and got a permanent damage to its national military pride. public records cannot be erased and the whole world knows this history facts. clean up your past military failure records, my dear south africa, and then we will rank you again maybe you move up or down the african rankings.

[b]experienced military analysts will not rate you too high because you manufacture and stockpile weapons but you dont engage in far away major combat and real bloody battlefield engagement with forces inside another country's territory the way nigerian military does almost every year for the past 20 years. yesterday we flew almost 1,000 infantry to mali to face rebels armed with ghaddafi's stolen heavy weapons and missiles, even france had to use latest rafale jets to stop the mali rebels last week. nigeria does not have grippen but we use what we have to test our true combat ability in war, not on paper list of equipment you store in your own the armoury. we are deploying our F-7 jets to mali for real live combat today world news confirmed it, and then msauza you ask me when last nigeria played war games? we dont just play hollywood movie type of games that south africa plays at home, nigeria moves into the most dangerious battles in african countries thousands of kilometers away form our home and we go there to die like true soldiers not military on paper that never fights real war and overrates itself as number 1 in africa.[/b]

msauza do you know how to think and be honest? if you do, then good indeed, but if not, thats your problem not mine. people who read your post and my posts will rate our brainwork and conclusions according to the way we argue our points.

use your south african military in real big scale war and let your soldiers die the way american soldiers died in thousands in iraq, and ethiopian soldiers died in thousands by the AK-47 of eritrean army, only then will the intelligent analysts and military experts who know war history can rank south africa if it truly deserve number one position. remember your bush war results, bad records you cannot erase. you had better french mirage jets in south african airforce and tiny cuba broke broke through your highly rated air defences with weaker russian mig jets to blow up the great caleuque hydryo dam right under the noses of south africa's highly rated military forces occupying the area....then your government called for ceasefire negotiations after that...and the cubans almost pincer formation your army to cut off south african flank guard and rear guard....then your government called for peace negotiations.....and you began to avoid major volatile war zones of death since that time over 20 years ago.

my friend people read your post and they read mine, the people have brains that work and they will judge intelligently. your personal opinion does not change the truth and facts publicly disclosed.

read this quote i extracted from public sources below :

"The area was of considerable strategic importance, providing the pretext for the initial 1975 South African military intervention in the Angolan Civil War when staff at the facility were threatened by guerrillas.[3] Full intervention through Operation Savannah followed shortly afterwards.

Throughout the Angolan Civil war Calueque remained continuously occupied by South African forces. In 1988, during the Battle of Cuito Cuanavale, the Cubans opened a second front against the South Africans and launched a massive ground offensive in the direction of Calueque. The area to the north of the dam became the scene of bloody fighting which proved to be a turning point in the war. On 27 June 1988, the South Africans retreated across the dam to Southwest Africa and the same day Cuban MiG-23 fighters attacked the facilities. The first wave of aircraft bombed the bridge and sluice gates, killing a soldier in the process. Another wave bombed the pump and generator, while a third destroyed the pipeline to Ovamboland. Significantly, one of the last bombs hit the position of eleven South African soldiers nearby who had exited their Buffel troop carrier to watch the events unfold. The dam and pipelines were considerably damaged, rendering the scheme inoperable"

The Calueque Dam and bridge has not been repaired since it was damaged in 1988"

the above information is available on web links with photos of south african dead soldiers coffins draped with national flags

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calueque

http://web.archive.org/web/20080120211559/http://uk.geocities.com/sasolboy/calueque.html

snydergp:

Tell where did u reseached that Cuban and Soviet jets launched attacks on SA soil because in now book or Web page is there any record of this.

agaugust: is there any well educated man in south africa that has a university masters degree on this forum ? please help me out by using zulu language to interpret simple english to syndergp and msauza because their low level of education is doing damage to their thinking and english language interpretation ability.

i quoted thabo mbeki ex-soutth african president last year as my proof and two more weblinks yesterday to prove the truth about the south african bush war.
if you have a brian that works well, read those weblinks below, they are general piblic information and not private propaganda which you prefer to believe.

http://www.afrocubaweb.com/southafrica.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calueque
http://web.archive.org/web/20080120211559/http://uk.geocities.com/sasolboy/calueque.html

those public records of history cannot be erased by syndergp and msauza who find the truth too painful to swallow and they are now crying like women in soweto riot of olden days. you know how to insult other countries but you cannot swallow it when your own country is emabarrased by solid truth.

no nerve to stomach the truth in syndergp and msauza, too weak like women, too dishonest like most black men all over the world, even here in the USA black men are very dishonest, 90% of them and i am sometimes ashamed that i am a black man.

if both of you cannot read and understand simple english, then i dont know how you have the brain to judge military rankings of countries which is a task that requires high level intelligence because very smart brains are necessary for military top brass to plan, execute and win a war.

go and sit down you too clowns, i thought i was talking to reasonable people, thats why every other person has abandoned this thread and they warned me that both of you will just waste my time because you cannot think in a logical manner or you just refuse to think so you can protect your national pride as patriotic south africans.

gst101: @agaugust. Thank you so much for standing gallantly with the spirit of Naija against these people especially syndergp and the ingnwi called msauza.

@musauza, if you dont have a satellite tv, you should have a tv with antenea. If you still dont have that, you should also have a transistor world reciever radio. But i am sure you have non of that no wonder you asked when was the last time we played a war game. Like agaugust told you, we dont do war games, we fight real wars. We have been fighting war even before independence when thw nigerian identity was non existent.

The question you asked, msauza, shows you've never been objective all these while.

Salute to the only soldier in here. Though,he has been against us, i think he knows what he is saying.