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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:18pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


What video ? Where ? You mean the 7 G maneuver capability of the Gripen ? Even the advertised 8.5 G crushes the Gripen into pieces grin

Pilots or test pilots or air force pilots is NOT the topic, pilots are human beings whose action is not easy to measure by us as we don't fly with them or control their thinking.

7 Gripen crashes, 2 of them in the last 21 days.....was it the pilot who broke his own Gripen landing wheels 14 days ago ?

Gripen Junk....JAS Gripen = Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen.....beware of those breaking spider legs of your $68 million Gripen grin
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Aircraft crash - so what?

Gripen can pull 9g maneuvers - this is a fact

[size=20pt]The crash you are referring to is not due to a pilot trying to perform such a maneuver [/size]

I will not take part in this infantile argument any longer
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:19pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


No report from Pakistani Air force on why he died, you post speculators.

$15 million JF-17 has 'bad' parachute.....no proof. $68 million Gripen has bad landing gear...confirmed report.

Your $68 million Gripen is worse than the $15 million JF-17 block I

You should be ashamed, my brovar grin grin
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So 2 Gripen crash - and now all 260 (which have been operating since the mid 1990's) have bad landing gear?

Has it ever occurred to you that the crash was due to pilot error?

Also, Gripen pilot surivial rate = 100%
JF-17 pilot survival rate= 0%
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:20pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


No report from Pakistani Air force on why he died, you post speculators.

$15 million JF-17 has 'bad' parachute.....no proof. $68 million Gripen has bad landing gear...confirmed report.

Your $68 million Gripen is worse than the $15 million JF-17 block I

You should be ashamed, my brovar grin grin
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He died because the JF-17 is sh1t!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:21pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


Hypotheticals

just over 100 actually ordered

Who is ordering the Half-French, this was the question?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:21pm On Jun 26, 2015
Henry120:


Who is ordering the Half-French, this was the question?

No, that is not the question.

That is not even the topic of discussion.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:22pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


260 Gripen would not have been sold if it could not perform


1. Of the 260 Gripens, Sweden that made it for themselves ordered 204 Gripens, it's home to home sales by Government decree.

2. First Gripen export had to be achieved by bribery and corruption money paid to South Africa by by SAAB Sweden.

3. If no bribes were paid to beg South Africa to buy and open up export market, ONLY Sweden would have been flying Gripen in this world.

JAS Junk Aircraft Gripen for $68 million needs bribery to sell it because it is expensive junk ! grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:24pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


1. Of the 260 Gripens, Sweden that made it for themselves ordered 204 Gripens, it's home to home sales by Government decree.

2. First Gripen export had to be achieved by bribery and corruption money paid to South Africa by by SAAB Sweden.

3. If no bribes were paid to beg South Africa to buy and open up export market, ONLY Sweden would have been flying Gripen in this world.

JAS Junk Aircraft Gripen for $68 million needs bribery to sell it because it is expensive junk ! grin grin
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1. Pakistan has not made such an order - they have only actually ordered 100 by "government decree"
2. Cite this corruption you speak of - there is no evidence of any
3. South Africa, Brazil, Hungary, Thailand, Czechs and allmost the Argentianians. Only Pakistan fly the JF-17

Well done on doing absolutely nothing with your post, if you wish to allege bribery then you need to prove bribery
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:26pm On Jun 26, 2015
NIGERIA HAS NO MONEY…


[size=20]The US and other countries ( including SA) to help Nigeria to recover the money from Badluck Jonathan and cohorts who stole their money.[/size]



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33253999
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:26pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


Again, show me actual orders - not hypothetical plans

250 requirement and in-house order.

150 SIPRI listed order

56 delivered

24 ordered by unnamed customer this month in Paris


JF-17 is sold without need of bribery, unlike the Gripen that sells by paying bribes to corrupt politicians/military men grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:30pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


What is Libya?

Recconnaissance only in Libya.....Recce behind the back of the leading RAF Sentinel ISTAR and USN E-2 AWACS/ISTAR doing the real work.

No single combat by Gripen in it's history. It has NEVER fired one bullet or face one single enemy, even if it's MiG-21 grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:33pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


Show me the Nigerian army fighting a competent foe

Biafran army, navy, air force, and British military academy trained Biafran officers with university degrees.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:34pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


1. You are literally broke
2. Having an army aviation wing is not "advanced" and for a small underfunded military it is a massive blunder - proven by the fact that the Nigerian army has tried to do it before and failed

South African army has NO army aviation.....now dusted 20 years behind Nigerian army

#Butt Hurt grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:39pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


250 requirement and in-house order.

150 SIPRI listed order

56 delivered

24 ordered by unnamed customer this month in Paris


JF-17 is sold without need of bribery, unlike the Gripen that sells by paying bribes to corrupt politicians/military men grin grin
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250 requirement

150 ACTUAL ORDER

24 UNKNOWN AND UNCONFIRMED ORDER

At $25 million a pop and only "as good as a Gripen" and you can only manage a sale of 150 to the people who designed it?

That says it all
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:39pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


Biafran army, navy, air force, and British military academy trained Biafran officers with university degrees.
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BIAFRA WAS EQUAL TO ZERO AND AMOUNTED TO NOTHING.


NIGERIA HAS NEVER FOUGHT ANY COMPETENT ENEMY. FACT!!!!

CAMEROON WAS A BIGGER TASK FOR YOU WHEN THEY KILLED YOUR TROOPS LIKE ANTS IN BAKASSI.

INSTEAD OF RETALIATING YOU RAN AWAY.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:39pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


Recconnaissance only in Libya.....Recce behind the back of the leading RAF Sentinel ISTAR and USN E-2 AWACS/ISTAR doing the real work.

No single combat by Gripen in it's history. It has NEVER fired one bullet or face one single enemy, even if it's MiG-21 grin
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Operating in combat = Combat
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:39pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


9 Gripen have crashed out of over 260 in operation world wide.

BIG WHOOP


Nope, there are no 260 Gripens in operation worldwide.

Sweden has 50 in storage, don't fly.

South Africa has 12 in storage, don't fly.

South Africa has 14 in service but NEVER do combat maneuver, pilots NOT combat qualified, only take off and land for Mandela's funeral grin

Most Gripens around the world are actually in storage, and the few that fly are crashing twice in 21 days !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:40pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


Biafran army, navy, air force, and British military academy trained Biafran officers with university degrees.
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A rag-tag rebel force with allmost no supplies or training and practically ZERO advanced weapons

Not the same as the North Koreans/Russians/Germans/Italians/MPLA/East Germans
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:41pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


[s]Nope, there are no 260 Gripens in operation worldwide.

Sweden has 50 in storage, don't fly.

South Africa has 12 in storage, don't fly.

South Africa has 14 in service but NEVER do combat maneuver, pilots NOT combat qualified, only take off and land for Mandela's funeral grin

Most Gripens around the world are actually in storage, and the few that fly are crashing twice in 21 days ![/s]
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260 Gripen in service around the world.

9 Crashes

BIG WHOOP

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:42pm On Jun 26, 2015
mzilakazi:
THE JUNK AIRCRAFT SYSTEM (WHICH DOES NOT MAKE SENSE) IS NOW OFFICIALLY NO:1 NATO CHOICE.


THE GRIPEN FIGHTER IS NOW THE KING OF THE AIR.

Your king is crumbling into pieces worldwide even as we speak....king of junks....expensive $68 million junk grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:43pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


[s]Your king is crumbling into pieces worldwide even as we speak....king of junks....expensive $68 million junk [/s] grin grin
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9 out of 260 in over 20 years

WOW SO INSULTING, MUCH HUMILIATION

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:44pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:



South Africa has 14 in service but NEVER do combat maneuver, pilots NOT combat qualified, only take off and land for Mandela's funeral grin

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[size=15pt]Augustus confirms that South Africa has 14 Pilots, further confirms Henry120 to be a liar [/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:44pm On Jun 26, 2015
jln115:

Goeie fok! Jy is poes dom!

Now you are too ashamed to write in English language, Gripen junk put you to shame grin !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:45pm On Jun 26, 2015
THE JUNK FIGHTER (DAYLIGHT INTERCEPTOR)

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:47pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


Now you are too ashamed to write in English language, Gripen junk put you to shame grin !

Augustus forgets that Nigeria has lost a number of F-7 in crashes
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:48pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


[size=15pt]Augustus confirms that South Africa has 14 Pilots, further confirms Henry120 to be a liar [/size]


Quote where I said that you have 14 pilots.

We have always said 14 Gripens operational with 9 pilots ALL not combat qualified, reason why they hardly ever fly.

You have NO combat air force for air superiority today grin

Hey, did y.our brain c.rash with the junk Gripen ? You have not recovered from the ongoing Gripen accident bashing grin

#Humiliated By Crashing Junk Gripens grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:49pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


Your king is crumbling into pieces worldwide even as we speak....king of junks....expensive $68 million junk grin grin
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Accidents do happen.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:50pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


[s]Quote where I said that you have 14 pilots.

We have always said 14 Gripens operational with 9 pilots ALL not combat qualified, reason why they hardly ever fly.

You have NO combat air force for air superiority today grin

Hey, did y.our brain c.rash with the junk Gripen ? You have not recovered from the ongoing Gripen accident bashing[/s] grin

#Humiliated By Crashing Junk Gripens grin
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So we keep 14 planes in the air with 9 pilots?

Yet, those 9 pilots dont have enough flying time to be "combat qualified"

hahahahahahahahaahahahahah - you killed yourself.

And augbugug, you can keep talking about Grip crashes, I know you think this is some big amazing thing you have uncovered, but its not, only 3% of Gripen in the world have been lost to crashes in over 20 years of operation without a single pilot fatality. That is a fantastic safety record.

The fact that you have abandoned any factual argument, and are now wildly posting about a handfull of accidents it a fairly clear indication that you have been conclusivly defeated in this debate. Post away, my dear slowpoke, post away.

and, FYI, you said we have 14 pilots:

AugustineAgain:


South Africa has 14 in service but NEVER do combat maneuver, pilots NOT combat qualified, only take off and land for Mandela's funeral grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:53pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:
[size=16pt]South Korea commemorates South African airmen - calls them "our hero's" [/size]

The Ambassador of the Republic of Korea to South Africa, His Excellency Choi Yeon-ho, said that he would like to “express our deepest gratitude to our heroes, the Korean War veterans, for their sacrifice and contribution.”

When war broke out in Korea, the Union Government announced on 4 August 1950 its intention to place an all-volunteer South African Air Force (SAAF) squadron at the disposal of the United Nations.

2 Squadron, whilst equipped with Mustangs, flew 10,373 sorties and out of a total of 95 Mustangs acquired, no fewer than 74 were lost due to enemy action and accidents. Twelve Mustang pilots were killed in action, 30 missing and four wounded. A further 2,032 sorties were flown in Sabres jets, with four Sabres lost out of 22 supplied.

The Ambassador of the Republic of Korea to South Africa, His Excellency Choi Yeon-ho, said that he would like to [size=16pt]“express our deepest gratitude to our heroes, the Korean War veterans, for their sacrifice and contribution.”[/size]


Nigerians brag about fighting rag-tag rebels, we dont brag about fighting anyone, men from other nations come to praise us for our contributions and victory's.



You are bragging about World War II vintage propeller aircraft flown by white ,men who are now dead ?

Suicide comment :

@Patches admits SAAF (Old white-men apartheid era pilots) lost about 80% of their combat aircraft in battle grin grin

"2 Squadron, whilst equipped with Mustangs, out of a total of 95 Mustangs acquired, no fewer than 74 were lost due to enemy action and accidents."

#Beaten Up By Poorly Fed Starving North Koreans grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:54pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


Gripen can pull 9g maneuvers - this is a fact


Citation needed and video demo needed to prove claim
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:56pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


You are bragging about World War II vintage propeller aircraft flown by white ,men who are now dead ?

Suicide comment :

@Patches admits SAAF (Old white-men apartheid era pilots) lost about 80% of their combat aircraft in battle grin grin

"2 Squadron, whilst equipped with Mustangs, out of a total of 95 Mustangs acquired, no fewer than 74 were lost due to enemy action and accidents."

#Beaten Up By Poorly Fed Starving North Koreans grin grin
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Augustus, if the Nigerian military had ever fought in any real war. You would be aware that you suffer fatalities.

They faced a well equipped and motivated opponent who fought ferociously and suffered casualties - their bravery is recognized by the people of Korea who consider them "our hero's" as well as the Americans who awarded them a Presidential Unit Citation.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:56pm On Jun 26, 2015
AugustineAgain:


Citation needed and video demo needed to prove claim
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Why do you need a video demo?

You are illiterate? Citations have been posted.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:00pm On Jun 26, 2015
patches689:


So we keep 14 planes in the air with 9 pilots?

Yet, those 9 pilots dont have enough flying time to be "combat qualified"

hahahahahahahahaahahahahah - you killed yourself.

And augbugug, you can keep talking about Grip crashes, I know you think this is some big amazing thing you have uncovered, but its not, only 3% of Gripen in the world have been lost to crashes in over 20 years of operation without a single pilot fatality. That is a fantastic safety record.

The fact that you have abandoned any factual argument, and are now wildly posting about a handfull of accidents it a fairly clear indication that you have been conclusivly defeated in this debate. Post away, my dear slowpoke, post away.

and, FYI, you said we have 14 pilots:



Yes you quoted me right, I said this :

"South Africa has 14 in service but NEVER do combat maneuver, pilots NOT combat qualified, only take off and land for Mandela's funeral"

I said pilots NOT combat qualified.....that wrecks the entire SAAF....you should be ashamed grin

The 14 Gripens crawl on the ground or fly at funerals NO combat maneuver !

Lion Effort 2015 is on-going now, NO SINGLE SAAF pilots allowed to participate.....NONE qualified to do combat !

That's why SAAF is missing at 2015 current Lion Effort exercise o ! grin grin
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