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US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by yorubason: 12:30pm On Mar 19, 2010
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The US State Department has flatly denied a newspaper report that alleged President Barrack Obama is preparing American troops for a “special intervention” in Nigeria.

In a statement issued by the State Department, it said "we have done nothing to suggest that our concerns are only based on our desire to retain it as a source of dependable oil production."

Making reference to the said publication, the State Department press officer of African Affairs, Russel Brooks, added: “The Nigerian Compass newspaper says it bases its story on comments by the U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) chief, General William Ward.

“The Compass says Mr. Obama would send troops to Nigeria if the country broke up and widespread chaos threatened oil production.”
But Brooks described the story “In a word, flabbergasted. This story is a complete fabrication.

“There are no U.S. troops being prepared to intervene in Nigeria. We have checked with AFRICOM and General Ward has made no such statement,” he said.

Brooks said had the Compass reporter checked his facts, “he would have learned that, in fact, there are no troops assigned to AFRICOM for them to put on alert.”

The press officer said the “fabrication…is made up from speculation about concerns that the U.S. may have about the situation in Nigeria.”

Source: http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=169017



UNITED STATES  President Barack Obama is preparing American troops for a special intervention in Nigeria, in the event of a widespread chaos that could threaten oil production, a top brass in the U.S. army and a security expert have revealed.

According to the Commander, U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM), General William Ward, American troops have been placed on red alert as the government is monitoring the political situation in Africa’s most populous nation.
Daniel Volman, Director of the U.S-based Africa Security Research Project, added that a growing U.S. need for natural resources was one of the main reasons the Defence Department developed AFRICOM, in the light of instability in places such as oil-rich Nigeria.


He said: “For the Pentagon, the nightmare scenario is that Nigeria will descend into chaos. Infighting in Nigeria will reach a point where oil production will actually be directly threatened, and then what do you do? Do you send American troops into Nigeria?
“The people at the Pentagon are already doing war-gaming and contingency planning for that - not because they particularly want to do that, but because they recognise how important Nigeria is to the United States.”
In 2007, the U.S. Government set up AFRICOM, after predicting Nigeria’s disintegration and possible breakup within 15 years.


Concerned about the series of political and religious crises which the country has been facing since President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua was incapacitated by acute pericarditis that kept him in Saudi Arabia from November 23, 2009 till February 24, world leaders have been apprehensive about Nigeria’s future.
The latest crisis in Jos, where over 500 people, mostly children and women, were slaughtered by armed group, drew comments, on Tuesday, from Libyan leader, Muammar Gaddafi.


He advocated the breakup of the country into two nations to avoid further bloodshed between Muslims and Christians.
To diffuse tension, Acting President Goodluck Jonathan made a nationwide broadcast in January, over the Jos crisis, and he has been appealing to trouble makers to give peace a chance.
General Ward recently testified on Capitol Hill that AFRICOM is still based in Germany because public opinion in Africa makes it counter-productive to base its command there.
Volman also said that although AFRICOM is based in Stuttgart, General Ward and his people spend about half of their time on the African continent.


“They have also begun building up the level of U.S. military personnel at all the U.S. embassies, so they can have mini AFRICOM headquarters in every single country,” he said.
Mark Davidheiser, director of the newly-created U.S.-based Africa Peace and Conflict Network, says he believes that concerns over terrorism trump all else when it comes to AFRICOM.
“I mean the real concern is terrorism,” said Mark Davidheiser. “That is what is motivating this programme, I believe. There has been a lot of worry about the lack of robust governance in Africa and the rather loose or patchy rule of law that exists in many places. So, the fear is that Africa can become a haven for extremists.”


The United States has also had long standing military ties with African countries with fewer resources and no visible terrorist threat, such as Guinea, where recent years have been marked by power struggles within the military. When former coup leader turned long-time President, Lansana Conte, died in late 2008, a soldier took over in a coup, before barely surviving an assassination attempt by another soldier.
Steven McDonald, an expert with the Africa programme at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, says the example of Guinea points to some of the challenges the United States faces in helping the military in Africa.


“Whether they had seen it as a ‘poster child’ (leading example) in the sense of military relations or not, I kind of doubt that,” said McDonald. “I think there was a great deal of hope placed on it that there would be a different kind of transition there. And I am sure there have been attempts behind the scenes to try to dissuade and recoup what has happened. But it is probably just another example of why in smaller countries like that where it does not stand high on our priorities of interests in terms of our own national interest that we have very limited leverage, and we learn it when things like this happen.”
Davidheiser regrets the emphasis that has been placed on U.S.-Africa military relations.
“It saddens me that that has been such a pillar of U.S. policy - giving military aid, training, sending advisors, training local military members by U.S. trainers, who often, history has shown, have turned around and then been involved in all sorts of brutalities and human rights violations against the populations there,” he said.


In the case of Guinea, human rights groups say the country’s military, which received support and training from the United States, was responsible for the killing of 150 demonstrators at a stadium in the capital Conakry last year. Senior military officials have blamed renegade soldiers for the violence.
U.S. military officials say they are actively training security forces across the African continent to fight not only terrorism, but also drug and human trafficking as well as piracy.
Meanwhile, Nigeria  may soon get into serious diplomatic trouble at the United Nations Security Council over the recurring killings of innocent citizens in Jos as the world body has taken the first step to hold the country responsible for the pogrom.


Already, a delegation of the world body has been mandated to gather information on what is happening in the Tin City.
The Secretary General, Ban Ki-moon, earlier this week, sent a special envoy to Nigeria to gather information on potential causes of genocide and help identify how the international community can prevent such a scourge in Nigeria.
Only on Wednesday, the international news circuit was bombarded again, for the third time this year, of another round of religious killings in the state.
The UN and the United States have spoken out against this, with the UN calling it “a massacre” and both UN and US calling on the Federal Government to enforce the law and prevent further violence.


The UN Secretary General said the mandate given to the UN envoy “is to collect information on serious violations of human rights that could lead to genocide and to bring potential genocidal situations to the attention of the Security Council.”
If the envoy determines that there is troubling information in the Jos crisis that may lead to a potential and major crisis, he is mandated to report same to the Security Council which will then formally take up the Jos crisis as one of its security concerns around the world, with possible imposition of severe international actions including sanctions or the imposition of a UN force in the area.


The sending of a special envoy by the UN to Nigeria is indicative of the determination of the global body to begin to gather information to activate the UN General Assembly resolution on the UN’s “Responsibility to Protect” mandate.
A UN statement earlier in the week said the UN envoy, who is the Special Adviser on the prevention of genocide, Mr. Francis Deng, is already in the West African region having arrived on Wednesday  and will from there be visiting Nigeria on how “to identify how national and sub-regional bodies can help prevent the scourge.”


Apart from Nigeria, the UN envoy will also visit Guinea and Ghana, “where he will discuss his mandate with government officials, UN officials on the ground and representatives from the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS)”.
Deng, a Sudanese scholar and advocate, was named to the post by  Ban in 2007 “to collect information on serious violations of human rights that could lead to genocide and to bring potential genocidal situations to the attention of the Security Council.”
World leaders started considering the UN mandate in 2005, when then Nigeria’s President, Chief  Olusegun Obasanjo, played an active role in the negotiations to mobilise support for such a mandate so that the international community will not just sit by and see the abuse and violation of people’s fundamental human rights by the government of the day without being able to stop it.


Obasanjo convinced some opposing leaders from developing countries not to oppose the mandate or completely kill the idea then as they feared that its adoption may give developed countries a right to militarily invade developing nations under the guise of the UN’s “responsibility to protect.’
Up until the 2009 General Assembly summit of world leaders, the issue of the UN’s Responsibility to Protect” was still being actively debated as the Assembly adopted by consensus its first resolution on the responsibility to protect, agreeing to hold further discussions on the international understanding to intervene to stop atrocities from taking place in sovereign nations.


The UN Secretary-General had called on the UN General Assembly “to turn the promise of the responsibility to protect into practice.”
The Responsibility to Protect principle was agreed to at a summit of world leaders in 2005 and sometimes known as ‘R2P’, it holds states responsible for shielding their own populations from genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and related crimes against humanity and requires the international community to step in if this obligation is not met.

By Peter Babs Imade, New York


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Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Bialegend(m): 12:53pm On Mar 19, 2010
The best news of the day. I wonder what the US is waiting for. They should come in already. We Biafrans are waiting in anticipation to welcome the US military into our territory.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by texazzpete(m): 12:59pm On Mar 19, 2010
Source pls!!
How hard is it to post a link, for Ikoro's sake!!
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by okeymadu(m): 1:06pm On Mar 19, 2010
Nigeria is capable to handle her problems, So America should just relax.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by ElRazur: 1:14pm On Mar 19, 2010
okeymadu:

Nigeria is capable to handle her problems, So America should just relax.

Like how they handled the Jos issue well well?

Like how them manage Yar'dua's health properly for LUTH?

Like how them manage the national resources effectively abi?

Okay. By the way, shame on you. grin
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by OvieE: 1:25pm On Mar 19, 2010
ElRazur:

Like how they handled the Jos issue well well?

Like how them manage Yar'dua's health properly for LUTH?

Like how them manage the national resources effectively abi?

Okay. By the way, shame on you. grin



Don't mind stupid terrorist from the north.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by oderemo(m): 1:30pm On Mar 19, 2010
The best news of the day. I wonder what the US is waiting for. They should come in already. We Biafrans are waiting in anticipation to welcome the US military into our territory.

how many of u. grin grin
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by honeric01(m): 1:31pm On Mar 19, 2010
Abeg jor, make dem go sit-down for somewhere, they are yet to successfully handled Iraq, Afghan/Pakistan/Somalia, its Nigeria they want, Bloody busybodies.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by sjeezy8: 1:45pm On Mar 19, 2010
I cant help but laugh because the title of the topic can be seen as alittle bit misleading.

Africom will be in Nigeria to do afew things and that is to make sure Oil flows, fight militants, fight terrorism, provide stability in Nigeria. Which isnt a good thing for Mend biafrans opc or any northern terrorist grin Just another IRAQ!

Everyone should know by now that America is in Iraq and controls the current corrupt govt and Oil flow indirectly.
Despite the fact that Iraqis want to be split into different countries ,Americas military presence in Iraq wont let them.

So all the artcle is saying is Africom in Nigeria will put to death all instablity in Nigeria that will cause break ups which can affect Oil flow to America.

Im waiting for them open arms because Mend is just as dangerous (economically to the world) as northern terrorist. cool
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Lagosboy: 2:35pm On Mar 19, 2010
If this news is true this is the peak of selfishnes. A breakup will involve chaos humanitarian disaster , displaced people, desease outbreak and all this idiot called obama and his pentagon could think of is a military intervention to protect flow of oil rather than peacekeeping to save lives and restore order.

It is high time we work hard to save our unity than let outsiders break us apart. I wonder how many states will we break into , how would a break up help platue state that has mix of ethnicity , i wonder how a break up will favor Benue state  or where Edo state will go. Nigeria is does not comprise of igbo hausa yoruba like these foreigners presume. Nigeria is not a muslim north and christian south like the ghadaffi thinks. The north has large amount of chrisitans and the south has large amt of muslims especially in the south west which has some states with muslim majority.

Let us unite as Nigerians as a break up will never pay us IMO.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by becomricch: 2:46pm On Mar 19, 2010
Uwais report was a fraud report written by the nigeria govt.  The nigeria govt wrote the script of the report. The issue in Nigeria is not electoral reform. The issue in nigeria is structure reform. 

Nigeria knows how to conduct credible election. Ask any nigerian. The issue is rigging the result of the election. So Uwais report is of no good to nigeria because we already know how to conduct election.  electoral reform is irrelevant to nigeria, but they rig the election result. so what good is it. pointless.  the only issue is the appointment of inec charmain should be by the national assembly.  Most of this people written online are 20 years old. they do not know much about nigeria and some have never been to nigeria before.

Without structural adjustment there would never be peace in nigeria.   There would be bloodly war  if we do not have structural adjustment.   What the  libya president is saying is true to a point. Honest nigerian would agree with him. We all know how uncreditable nairaland have become. edit post and poll.  But the truth is apart from greedy politician who are so desperate to hold on to thier position , we are risking the lifes of million, just because some people are too greedy.

Now I think Nigeria should raise up and save thier own lifes from this greedy people. If is your life and family, who would be in the civil war. most of this people already have private jet parked at the airport to run.

I think lack of understand of Nigeria but some people may cause the lifes of millions to be wasted. The north would never agree to the satellite pictures.  They already  hate america. And I believe supporting structural reform is the only solution.   

No group or ethnics can be force to conform to electoral reform, when they say NO. And the north have clearly said No and they prefer structural reform . Gaddafi knows the north and even when the west see him as a bad man. This time around. I have to agree, he is speaking the truth. Gaddafi is a friend to the powerful power block in the north. He knows what they want. If we fail to have structural reform, we would see more than 5 africa countries involve in this civil war.

While the Yorubas are in several countries, the fulani/hausa are also in several countries. Ethnics loyalty goes beyoud country. We see our ethnics group in Africa as our country. Not the nation call nigeria. The USA would only create more hate for itsself from the north, even among yorubas. Structural reform is the only solution. Nigeria politician are not honest. Their position matter to them more than the lifes of the people. they dont care for the people. So as far as they are considered, They can kill all of them for all they care. They are heartless men. see the way they kill themself for position.

The north would never agree to electoral reform , only structural reform, and noone can force electoral reform on the north it would only lead to a civil war. Ethnics loyalty and ethnics honour killing is alive in Africa.

It is an issue of saving lifes rather than anyone invading nigeria. Look, you need to see the satellite pictures. Do you think you can conduct a election in 2011 and who is going to go to kano and tell them they result is too high.

If you assume that kano would declear a result less than 10 million voters, then you would be joking. Knowing Nigeria. they would never agree. And the people of kano and the north are the one who is going to conduct the election on thier own side. And they would put millions on the figure. You cant force them. You cant force electoral reform on people.

Jigawa, katsina and others are going to declear million in 2011. what do you think jonathan is going to do, he cant do anything. Look the coup in Niger republic had nigeria link. It is not possible to conduct a military coup in Niger republic without Nigeria link.

There are been many times in Nigeria where Niger citizen invade Nigeria to attack Nigeria villages and town, when there are community crisis like the one in Jos. retaliation for thier fellow hausa/fulani in Nigeria. if they slow to act to defend themself. Ask any nigeria. You dont know what ethnics honour is about. people give up for thier for it.

The headquarters of the hausa/fulani kingdom is located in Nigeria. And the citizen of niger republic are more loyal to their nigeria leader than they are to the government in Niger republic or other countries. Even in Nigeria, the hausa/fulani are more loyal to hausa/fulani chief than the nigeria government. They are not loyal to Jonathan. They dont give a hell about Jonathan or any nigeria president. even they dont get a hell to Yar adua who is hausa/fulani or any nigeria president. They see the government coming from the fulani/hausa kingdom than the president of nigeria or niger or any country. they dont care the hell for the president. Actually the president is a rubber stamp. nobody give a hell of the president of nigeria and national assembly. Loyality is to thier ethnics group first, even in the military. This is been honest. You can see one of thier leader saying Jonathan cant remove the chief of army staff. he was not joking.

It is the say in Yorubaland. they dont care who the president is . Thier loyality is not to the president but to the ethnics group. As far as the yorubas are concern in Nigeria. The oni is more powerful than the president of Nigeria. Even when Obasanjo was there. people are not going to listen to obasanjo first before the oni. It is a cultural thing. i cant explain. This is the truth, go ask any nigerian. Loyality in the army in Nigeria is not to nigeria government, but to thier ethnics group. That why there are military coup.

The international community have no choice but to step in and help. And save people lifes.

electoral reform can not work. It is just a way to con the international community, but the real truth is the north would see declear millions in likely billions in election. Who do you thing would go and risk is life in the north and same they are less. That what is going to happen in 2011 and it would lead to a bloodly civil war.

Yes small ethnics group with less than 50,000 , you can see them are scared of the breakup. but they can be controlled. but you cant control the bigger ethnics group. crisis with them would lead to civil war. the lawmakers making who are shouting about this whole thing are from very very small ethnics group, which can be easily control if nigeria breakup. The international community should not worry about them. they are just be upset for now. they would like it latter.

The hausa would tell you "ba turashi." meaning "get the hell of my face , i dont give a shit1 about english". Sorry for my use of word.

people in hausa would say "ko ba kaba, aka ne." walahi
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Afam4eva(m): 2:59pm On Mar 19, 2010
Lagosboy:

If this news is true this is the peak of selfishnes. A breakup will involve chaos humanitarian disaster , displaced people, desease outbreak and all this idiot called obama and his pentagon could think of is a military intervention to protect flow of oil rather than peacekeeping to save lives and restore order.

It is high time we work hard to save our unity than let outsiders break us apart. I wonder how many states will we break into , how would a break up help platue state that has mix of ethnicity , i wonder how a break up will favor Benue state  or where Edo state will go. Nigeria is does not comprise of igbo hausa yoruba like these foreigners presume. Nigeria is not a muslim north and christian south like the ghadaffi thinks. The north has large amount of chrisitans and the south has large amt of muslims especially in the south west which has some states with muslim majority.

Let us unite as Nigerians as a break up will never pay us IMO.

The north is a largely Muslim region while the south has a Christain majority.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Lagosboy: 3:14pm On Mar 19, 2010
afam4eva:

The north is a largely Muslim region while the south has a Christain majority.

This issue is deeply beyond majority . The south is north a united entity , the south consist of various ethnic groups. I am from the SW and no one can call the SW a christian majority liekwise no one can call the SS or SE muslim majority. Percentage wise i agree the south is christian majority but the south is not one entity like it is being simpliefied to appear. The middle belt is largely christian but considered north now tell me if they will ever want to be a minority in a muslim dominated northern state. Our unity as Nigerians is a blessing in disguise which we will never appreciate until we break up. We could successfully have an igbo state and yoruba state but the middlebelt, SS states will never be able to have a unified country as none of this region is homogenous tribewise.

Muslim north and christian south is being over simplisitic and that is where the problem lies.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by becomricch: 3:20pm On Mar 19, 2010
No group or ethnics can be force to conform to electoral reform, when they say NO.  And the north have clearly said No and they prefer structural reform . Gaddafi  knows the north and even when the west see him as a bad man. This time around. I have to agree, he is speaking the truth. Gaddafi is a friend to the powerful power block in the north.  He knows what they want. If we fail to have structural reform, we would see more than 5 africa countries involve in this civil war.

While the Yorubas are in several countries, the fulani/hausa are also in several countries. Ethnics loyalty goes beyoud country. We see our ethnics group in Africa as our country. Not the nation call nigeria. The USA would only create more hate for itsself from the north, even among yorubas. Structural reform is the only solution. Nigeria politician are not honest. Their position matter to them more than the lifes of the people. they dont care for the people. So as far as they are considered, They can kill all of them for all they care. They are heartless men. see the way they kill themself for position.

The north would never agree to electoral reform , only structural reform, and noone can force electoral reform on the north it would only lead to a civil war. Ethnics loyalty and ethnics honour killing is alive in Africa.

It is an issue of saving lifes rather than anyone invading nigeria. Look, you need to see the satellite pictures. Do you think you can conduct an election in 2011 and who is going to go to kano and tell them their result is too high.

If you assume that kano would declear a result less than 10 million voters, then you would be joking. Knowing Nigeria. they would never agree. And the people of kano and the north  are the one who is going to conduct the election on thier own side. And they would put millions on the figure. You cant force them. You cant force electoral reform on people.

Jigawa, katsina and others are going to declear million in 2011. what do you think jonathan is going to do, he cant do anything. Look the coup in Niger republic had nigeria link. It is not possible to conduct a military coup in Niger republic without Nigeria link.

There are been many times in Nigeria where Niger citizen invade Nigeria to attack Nigeria villages and town, when there are community crisis like the one in Jos. retaliation for thier fellow hausa/fulani in Nigeria. if they slow to act to defend themself.  Ask any nigeria. You dont know what ethnics honour is about. people give up for thier for it.

The headquarters of the hausa/fulani kingdom is located in Nigeria. And the citizen of niger republic are more loyal to their nigeria leader than they are to the government in Niger republic or other countries. Even in Nigeria, the hausa/fulani are more loyal to hausa/fulani chief than the nigeria government. They are not loyal to Jonathan. They dont give a hell about Jonathan or any nigeria president. even they dont get a hell to Yar adua who is hausa/fulani or any nigeria president.  They see the government coming from the fulani/hausa kingdom than the president of nigeria or niger or any country. they dont care the hell for the president. Actually the president is a rubber stamp. nobody give a hell of the president of nigeria and national assembly. Loyality is to thier ethnics group first, even in the military. This is been honest. You can see one of thier leader saying Jonathan cant remove the chief of army staff. he was not joking.

It is the say in Yorubaland. they dont care who the president is . Thier loyality is not to the president but to the ethnics group. As far as the yorubas are concern in Nigeria. The oni is more powerful than the president of Nigeria. Even when Obasanjo was there. people are not going to listen to obasanjo first before the oni. It is a cultural thing. i cant explain. This is the truth, go ask any nigerian. Loyality in the army in Nigeria is not to nigeria government, but to thier ethnics group. That why there are military coup.

The international community have no choice but to step in and help. And save people lifes.

electoral reform can not work. It is just a way to con the international community, but the real truth is the north would still declear millions in likely billions in election. Who do you thing would go and risk his life in the north and same they are less. That what is going to happen in 2011 and it would lead to a bloodly civil war.

Yes small ethnics group with less than 50,000 , you can see them are scared of the breakup. but they can be controlled. but you cant control the bigger ethnics group. crisis with them would lead to civil war. the lawmakers making who are shouting about this whole thing are from very very small ethnics group, which can be easily control if nigeria breakup. The international community should not worry about them. they are just be upset for now. they would like it latter.

The hausa would tell you "ba turashi." meaning  "get the hell of my face , i dont give a shit1 about english".  Sorry for my use of word.

people in hausa would say  "ko ba kaba, aka ne." walahi
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by netotse(m): 3:27pm On Mar 19, 2010
Lagosboy:

This issue is deeply beyond majority . The south is north a united entity , the south consist of various ethnic groups. I am from the SW and no one can call the SW a christian majority liekwise no one can call the SS or SE muslim majority. Percentage wise i agree the south is christian majority but the south is not one entity like it is being simpliefied to appear. The middle belt is largely christian but considered north now tell me if they will ever want to be a minority in a muslim dominated northern state. Our unity as Nigerians is a blessing in disguise which we will never appreciate until we break up. We could successfully have an igbo state and yoruba state but the middlebelt, SS states will never be able to have a unified country as none of this region is homogenous tribewise.

Muslim north and christian south is being over simplisitic and that is where the problem lies.
this is one of the best statements anyone has made on NL concerning the whole sout-north thingy. . .

if anyone thinks me as an edo man will choose to be in a country called southern nigeria and be subjected to other tribes is stark raving merde!
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Eddeux(m): 3:42pm On Mar 19, 2010
No group or ethnics can be force to conform to electoral reform, when they say NO.  And the north have clearly said No and they prefer structural reform . Gaddafi  knows the north and even when the west see him as a bad man. This time around. I have to agree, he is speaking the truth. Gaddafi is a friend to the powerful power block in the north.  He knows what they want. If we fail to have structural reform, we would see more than 5 africa countries involve in this civil war.

While the Yorubas are in several countries, the fulani/hausa are also in several countries. Ethnics loyalty goes beyoud country. We see our ethnics group in Africa as our country. Not the nation call nigeria. The USA would only create more hate for itsself from the north, even among yorubas. Structural reform is the only solution. Nigeria politician are not honest. Their position matter to them more than the lifes of the people. they dont care for the people. So as far as they are considered, They can kill all of them for all they care. They are heartless men. see the way they kill themself for position.

The north would never agree to electoral reform , only structural reform, and noone can force electoral reform on the north it would only lead to a civil war. Ethnics loyalty and ethnics honour killing is alive in Africa.
It is an issue of saving lifes rather than anyone invading nigeria. Look, you need to see the satellite pictures. Do you think you can conduct an election in 2011 and who is going to go to kano and tell them their result is too high.
If you assume that kano would declear a result less than 10 million voters, then you would be joking. Knowing Nigeria. they would never agree. And the people of kano and the north  are the one who is going to conduct the election on thier own side. And they would put millions on the figure. You cant force them. You cant force electoral reform on people.
Jigawa, katsina and others are going to declear million in 2011. what do you think jonathan is going to do, he cant do anything. Look the coup in Niger republic had nigeria link. It is not possible to conduct a military coup in Niger republic without Nigeria link.
There are been many times in Nigeria where Niger citizen invade Nigeria to attack Nigeria villages and town, when there are community crisis like the one in Jos. retaliation for thier fellow hausa/fulani in Nigeria. if they slow to act to defend themself.  Ask any nigeria. You dont know what ethnics honour is about. people give up for thier for it.
The headquarters of the hausa/fulani kingdom is located in Nigeria. And the citizen of niger republic are more loyal to their nigeria leader than they are to the government in Niger republic or other countries. Even in Nigeria, the hausa/fulani are more loyal to hausa/fulani chief than the nigeria government. They are not loyal to Jonathan. They dont give a hell about Jonathan or any nigeria president. even they dont get a hell to Yar adua who is hausa/fulani or any nigeria president.  They see the government coming from the fulani/hausa kingdom than the president of nigeria or niger or any country. they dont care the hell for the president. Actually the president is a rubber stamp. nobody give a hell of the president of nigeria and national assembly. Loyality is to thier ethnics group first, even in the military. This is been honest. You can see one of thier leader saying Jonathan cant remove the chief of army staff. he was not joking.
It is the say in Yorubaland. they dont care who the president is . Thier loyality is not to the president but to the ethnics group. As far as the yorubas are concern in Nigeria. The oni is more powerful than the president of Nigeria. Even when Obasanjo was there. people are not going to listen to obasanjo first before the oni. It is a cultural thing. i cant explain. This is the truth, go ask any nigerian. Loyality in the army in Nigeria is not to nigeria government, but to thier ethnics group. That why there are military coup.
The international community have no choice but to step in and help. And save people lifes.
electoral reform can not work. It is just a way to con the international community, but the real truth is the north would still declear millions in likely  billions in election. Who do you thing would go and risk his life in the north and same they are less. That what is going to happen in 2011 and it would lead to a bloodly civil war.
Yes small ethnics group with less than 50,000 , you can see them are scared of the breakup. but they can be controlled. but you cant control the bigger ethnics group. crisis with them would lead to civil war. the lawmakers making who are shouting about this whole thing are from very very small ethnics group, which can be easily control if nigeria breakup. The international community should not worry about them. they are just be upset for now. they would like it latter.
The hausa would tell you "ba turashi." meaning  "get the hell of my face , i dont give a shit1 about english".  Sorry for my use of word.
people in hausa would say  "ko ba kaba, aka ne." walahi

so tribalism still runs in Nigeria. You better start scrapping the 2020 Vision cause from the looks of it your country won't be accomplishing it, or anything else, as long as it still has these problems that you have described. Would the world and most open-minded people like to see a developed Nigeria? Of course, but sooner or later you lose your hope in a poorly ran country; a WASTE of foreign investment.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by hatch: 5:51pm On Mar 19, 2010
When Newspaper houses run out of stories this what follows. If the compass newspaper have their license revoked or suspended now,they will be screaming blue murder but now that they are writing such lame stories , they will not remember.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Thor(m): 5:52pm On Mar 19, 2010
Would be better if the British plan it, it would be far more effective undecided
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Kgdavid(m): 6:18pm On Mar 19, 2010
since nigeria was not colonised as one protectorate, the country should not exist as it is. nigeria was originally two different protectorates which were amalgamated into one. we should therefore split in that same order.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Nobody: 6:27pm On Mar 19, 2010
Kgdavid:

since nigeria was not colonised as one protectorate, the country should not exist as it is. nigeria was originally two different protectorates which were amalgamated into one. we should therefore split in that same order.

there were at least three or four different protectorates which were almagamated at different times.

Northern protectorate

southern protectorate, to which was added the Oil rivers or Niger coast protectorate, consisting of the calabar areas.


The Niger Coast Protectorate was a British protectorate in the Oil Rivers area of present-day Nigeria, originally established as the Oil Rivers Protectorate in 1891 and confirmed at the Berlin Conference the following year, renamed on 12 May 1893, and merged with the chartered territories of the Royal Niger Company on 1 January 1900 to form the colony of Southern Nigeria


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_Coast_Protectorate





If you add the colony of lagos which  didnt join the union until 1906, then you have a minimum of four.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Akanbiedu(m): 7:08pm On Mar 19, 2010
ElRazur:

Like how they handled the Jos issue well well?

Like how them manage Yar'dua's health properly for LUTH?

Like how them manage the national resources effectively abi?

Okay. By the way, shame on you. grin

Let us assume we can't handle our problem well-yet. Your own solution is to bring in foreigners abi?
Whose interest do you think they will protect first?
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Dominoifet(m): 7:43pm On Mar 19, 2010
@akanbi-edu
Let us assume we can't handle our problem well-yet. Your own solution is to bring in foreigners abi?Whose interest do you think they will protect first?

Akanbiiiii, so who has been protecting ur interest since independence? Ur leaders? No I'll tell u. Westerners. Even b4 u came into this world. The western world has always loved u. Remeber Adolf Hitler wanted to wipe out Africa and make it rubber plantation it was the west(America cum UK that stopped him at Egypt. So if they come in now and stop senseless killings it is ok. I want to ask u will u intevene in resuscitating something say business with ur resource and not at least get your input back even if u don't get profit?
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by xterra2(m): 8:29pm On Mar 19, 2010
We can solve our wahala without US help we brought the wahala on oursleves and we can also repair it , We dont need US help
I think the $50 billion China gave us for oil should be accepted and tell them + military base of chinas army+airforce+navy will deter US form coming here or other countries the idea would just go and other countries wont dare try shit especially the US(not that chinas military is better is better than the US)but if they are coming the chinese wont allow they $50 billion dollars investment be controlled by the US
Plus,the US would be exporting our oil for free NOT buying it(is it not y they say this)so we are at a loss and what hey wil do will be unimaginable
Fxck them we dont want them,we can handle ourselves
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by 4Play(m): 8:50pm On Mar 19, 2010
Lagosboy:

If this news is true this is the peak of selfishnes. A breakup will involve chaos humanitarian disaster , displaced people, desease outbreak and all this idiot called obama and his pentagon could think of is a military intervention to protect flow of oil rather than peacekeeping to save lives and restore order.

The US is disproportionately the largest aid contributor in humanitarian disasters, so shut your trap. If Nigeria was to descend into chaos, the US, not your Arab heroes will be one of the first to send in food aid.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by becomricch: 9:38pm On Mar 19, 2010
We never had oil in nigeria till nigeria 1966 or there about.  The oil protectorate later include yorubaland

  Obasanjo created the Niger delta . it former name was OMPENDEC, Eric opia was the head of the program.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by becomricch: 10:03pm On Mar 19, 2010
We never had oil in nigeria till 1966 or there about.  The first protectorate include yorubaland

  Obasanjo created the Niger delta . it former name was OMPENDEK, Prof Eric opia was the head of the program.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Tadeus(m): 10:57pm On Mar 19, 2010
If USA invade Nigeria, I doubt if that will solve our problem.

Politically, I believe our leaders need to do something fast, USA are coming for their own selfish interest reasons, let stop fooling ourselves, IF WE CAN NOT SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS OURSELVES, NO EXTERNAL BODIES CAN SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS FOR US, WE KNOW THE ORIGIN OF THESE PROBLEMS,LETS SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.

According to UN constitution, USA as a number one state in the world has right to do this just to maintain international peace and order, but we have to act fast, if USA troops solve this problem for us, we have useless and degrade our millitary readiness which means that our millitary men are not competent to solve this problem. our military men have done a great job to maintain peace and order in Africa, why this is happening to us?
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by becomricch: 12:19am On Mar 20, 2010
The USA and united nation is not invading Nigeria, . There is a different betweeen the two.

Look the capital of the republic of Benin is port Novo, a yoruba town.
They have to redraw the structure for there to be peace. 

if the USA is coming it is not with any selfish interest. Your lifes are at risk. How long do you think kano would continue to claim 10 million.

If the igbos do not want structural, will the igbos support the nation assembly to merge all of the 5 five eastern state into one state. That is an alternative.

so what do you think would happen another problem, so we become smart. And remove the yorubas,edo, delta and bayelsa.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by sjeezy8: 12:57am On Mar 20, 2010
hmmmm I cant wait till the Africom comes because they will be the ones defending pipelines aganst militants and making sure theres no religous war.

Nigerian military outside Nigeria is great but inside we tend to see things with too much tribalism and religious bias.

If Africom comes and starts dropping bombs on villages that harbor militants(like they do in iraq/afghanistan) will deltans blame the north or tribalism? NO

Will they ask for a ND republic? HELLL NO

If africom comes and they shut down extremist islamic schools, will northern muslims go crazy and start killing? HELLL NO THEY'LL BE TO SCARED OF US MILITARY.

Will politicians steal with no shame as they do now? NO- they would want to look good in the eyes of foreigners.

Will military people carry out extra judicial killings? NO - because they will be trained by US military.

Will police ask for bribes while 4,000 US troops are around? NO

I hate to say it but africans cant solve there own problems- the only time africans come together is when they have a common enemy- oyinbo man controlling them. so thats whats needed in naija until Nigerians get their house in order.
colonialism was even better than now.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by becomricch: 1:43am On Mar 20, 2010
Africom is not coming to shut down islamic school. they are ab training unit. They would not cross the river into the north. All they have to do even if they agree to come, is stay at the river bank around kwara,kogi,niger, edo,delta and bayelsa. They do not have to cross into even igboland. Just a military zone. It is also good for the stability of the oil market. And Russia would agree to send troope , so is china, Uk, canada, france and other countries. .
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Akanbiedu(m): 1:47am On Mar 20, 2010
Dominoifet:

@akanbi-edu
Let us assume we can't handle our problem well-yet. Your own solution is to bring in foreigners abi?Whose interest do you think they will protect first?

Akanbiiiii, so who has been protecting your interest since independence? your leaders? No I'll tell u. Westerners. Even b4 u came into this world. The western world has always loved u. Remeber Adolf Hitler wanted to wipe out Africa and make it rubber plantation it was the west(America come UK that stopped him at Egypt. So if they come in now and stop senseless killings it is ok. I want to ask u will u intevene in resuscitating something say business with your resource and not at least get your input back even if u don't get profit?

May be a people who can't solve their problem deserve to die anyway.
Re: US Prepares Strategy For Dealing With War In Nigeria <<Denied>> by Ibime(m): 2:05am On Mar 20, 2010
Black man, you are on your own - Steve Biko.

USA is not interested in de-balkanising any other country except they are white Eastern European. Una must suffer and die together.

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