PrecisionFx:



I am saying that I wasn't born in Sin or whatever u choose to call it.

OLAADEGBU:


That means that you don't have the human nature. A dog will give birth to a dog and a sheep with give birth to a sheep. Our first parents sinned and thereby giving birth to human with a sinful (Adamic nature).

PrecisionFx:


I am an igbo man and u and I do not share first parents with u, Ur Caucasian parents Adam n Eve sinned and they gave birth to u and u inherited the sin.


God of the Bible created sin.
U cannot run away from it.
Even in the Bible heaven(a perfect place), Lucifer and his followers fought their Creator in a civil war and they were defeated. There where sent down from heaven into garden of Eden to extend the Bible Gods sins to the Caucasians living in Asia

AntiNormal:


I'm not an atheist... Not yet anyway... I'm just trying to understand... Anyway, I have a question for the Christians and Theists...

AntiNormal:


God created Adam, and then formed Eve from his rib.

AntiNormal:


Adam and Eve had two sons - Cain and Abel.

AntiNormal:


Cain killed Abel and was branded a murderer and exiled to the East.
Genesis 3:17 says Cain had sexual relations with his wife...
Who did he marry?

AntiNormal:


Where did she come from?

AntiNormal:


Did God make her too? Or did she just appear out of nowhere with the sole intent to marry a marked murderer and have his babies?

pesty100:
technically this is one argument not 3

joe4christ:


If god is infinite as you postulated. Then the question is what has he been doing during the timeframe of infinitum that he only woke up from his slumber and finally realise his loneliness and his need to create the universe and its components and then create earth and its inhabitants. If he only realised this need of his only less than 7000yrs ago according to biblical records of the age of earth existence. Then he simply ain't infinite as you claim or he's just an idle personality with lots of personality issues and clueless too

Omoluabi16:
Why are you joe4christ yet speak such blasphemous words? you would run mad if you ever try to understand God.

butterflyl1on:

We KNOW the universe has an origin and we know that a force packed with an infinite amount of energy caused the universe to be (Science has established this).

We also know that THERE IS NOTHING IN EXISTENCE WHICH PACKS AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF ENERGY TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CAUSE THIS.

So if infinite energy was what brought our universe to be yet we do not have this infinite energy available in our material world and we know that our universe began to exist at some point. This means that what caused our universe to exist by the application of energy infinite energy was not part of our universe but impacted it from outside it.

OLAADEGBU:


Who are your first parents?

OLAADEGBU:


Fire on.



God formed Eve from Adam's side.



They actually had more than Cain and Abel. They had other sons and daughters also.



Her name was not mentioned. She became the most popular wife without her named being mentioned.



She came from Adam and Eve.



She was either a sister or niece to Cain.

AntiNormal:

So, he married his full sister, and had children with her - something God says later on is a sin?

AntiNormal:

Also, if she was truly their daughter, why wasn't she living with them? Why was one of the first women to exist living far from her parents on a world that was for all intents and purposes empty? Remember, women in the Bible lived with their parents until they got married. They didn't strike out and settle far away from home, waiting for people named Cain to come and marry them...

AntiNormal:
Also, do you even know what a niece is? If she was his niece, then who were her parents?

PrecisionFx:


I am an igbo man and u and I do not share first parents with u, Ur Caucasian parents Adam n Eve sinned and they gave birth to u and u inherited the sin.
God of the Bible created sin.
U cannot run away from it.
Even in the Bible heaven(a perfect place), Lucifer and his followers fought their Creator in a civil war and they were defeated. There where sent down from heaven into garden of Eden to extend the Bible Gods sins to the Caucasians living in Asia

olaolutreasure:
Atheists have a sincerity: they call their doctrines 'theories' i.e. they were postulated by men and were done through observations carried out by the sensory perceptions of men and application of existing laws, but they might not be truly valid in the practical.
But the peril behind their belief is that they agree adamantly that those 'virtual proponents' called theories are systems of truth unchangeable by any external facts and truths beyond the realm of intellects. That is one of the problem of atheists

ScienceWatch:
Your scientific god has explained why you block higher truths that dont fit into Atheisms stated world agenda.

How do atheists/deists/agnostics,etc use defence mechanisms to deny God or a personal God? Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers, Sam Harris and others. They are angry and resentful people and shift the blame to other for the problems in their own lives. Now filled with hatred, they invent ideas that trap themselves and others. What follows are what psychologists and psychiatrist believe to be the major ways.
DENIAL: This mechanism is very simple: the atheist/deist simply denies reality and does so with intensity and persistence. There are people who are told by doctors daily that they have a terminal illness. They hear and see many people have been miraculously healed. Their way of coping is to deny that it could be true. Atheists/deist do the same: they intensely and persistently deny that God could exist. They block out the possibility and fight it with all their might.

RATIONALIZATIONS: This is a favourite mechanism of atheists/deist. It is simply the reliance on logical-sounding but false reasons to negate reality. Atheists/deist will offer countless “logical-sounding” reasons why God does not exist, or why atheists/deist cannot accept the existence of God or religion or that miraculous healings are as simple as breathing. They are very creative at doing so, and they specialize in using pedantic language to sound convincing to others and to themselves. They fool themselves that they are of superior intelligence and that they must be correct in their conclusions. In reality, they are simply foolish rationalizers.
How do atheists use defence mechanisms to deny God
REPRESSION: This mechanism entails forcing painful experiences into the sub-conscious unconsciously. The atheist/deist/agnostic who uses this mechanism is not aware of it. All of existence shouts out miraculous, "design." Every little detail in nature offers evidence of the Artist’s miraculous touch. One only has to stop, observe and see that we are not surrounded by the grotesque, but by beauty, unity and miraculous harmony. The atheist mind will not stop and observe and see the connection. If they do stop to look, they will acknowledge the miraculous art -- but not the artist.

SUPPRESSION: Suppression is similar to repression, but with one exception: it is conscious. Science is continually offering evidence of miraculous intricacy and brilliance on the Creator’s part. The concept of miraculous design is daily being reinforced by all the sciences. Accepting the evidence of miraculous design for former atheist, Anthony Flew, may have been painful at first, but he finally accepted the glaring reality. Most atheists/deist will not. They will consciously “reject” the evidence, without any fair and sufficient analysis. And finally exclude God or reject the power of miracles in religion.

DISPLACEMENT: This mechanism has to do with transferring feelings from one deserving object to another undeserving one. As explained above, many Atheists/deists are angry and hurt, because of abuse or mistreatment by authority figures, parents, religious people or religious leaders. In time, they transfer their anger to God who allowed the events that caused their pain to take place. The end result of this mechanism is to abolish/destroy what they see as the ultimate source of their pain: God.

joe4christ:
What you may term as ultimate supernatural design and uncracked mystery that only the "divine" could know, might actually be a knowledge meant for kids in elementary school or even a general knowledge in other multi verse. For the fact that science does not claim to have answer to all life questions does not give you institutionalized religious body an edge, afterall I'm yet to see any 21st century church who doesn't depend on science to thrive. You don't bit the same finger that feeds you.
Science is in continues search to unravelling life mysteries and expanding its know led he, and so far so good, science has been doing extremely well in their field. But can same be said of all these institutionalized regious body that cannot even survive without...

PrecisionFx:

Unknown to Man. Each civilization create their own version.

joe4christ:
What you may term as ultimate supernatural design and uncracked mystery that only the "divine" could know, might actually be a knowledge meant for kids in elementary school or even a general knowledge in other multi verse.

joe4christ:
For the fact that science does not claim to have answer to all life questions does not give you institutionalized religious body an edge, afterall I'm yet to see any 21st century church who doesn't depend on science to thrive. You don't bit the same finger that feeds you.

olaolutreasure:

No, there's Someone outside the scene declaring them into existence

olaolutreasure:

Science, in a lay language, is a body of knowledge built on methodological study of the environment. But error came when it uses the laws of earth and space to judge what brought the laws and lives into existence

PrecisionFx:

Religions have a zero knowledge or information on human existence.

olaolutreasure:

Science, in a lay language, is a body of knowledge built on methodological study of the environment. But error came when it uses the laws of earth and space to judge what brought the laws and lives into existence

PrecisionFx:


Explain further.

olaolutreasure:

Yes, you are right. But the Bible does, and so are those who are believers of it as the word of God - Christians.
In my study of the scriptures, I saw in it prove of:
* Astrology
* Geography
* Biology/Botany/Anatomy
* Music/Entertainment
* Astronomy/Space Study
* Medicine/Surgery
* Civil/Mechanical Engineering
* Fine Art/Architecture
* Law/Government
* Biotechnology
* Criminology/Force
* And many others.
I do not mean their demonstration alone, I meant how they started