KnowAll:

I guess you are one of those LAZY PDP card members from Lagos State that cannot even deliver their wards in a general election, and yet want to benefit from the largasse of the PDP, people like Koro should be touting around lagos trying to lure voters to thier hold. But silly Yaradua rewarded a man that cannot deliver his ward with an abassadorial post.

If AC where the goverment at the center or the FG,  the imposition of Aganga would not have being possible. Look PDP in Lagos State has no leg to stand they have not delivered and so should not be rewarded. Aganga stays,  and u lazy card holders get your butts of the ground and start working the streets of lagos and win some votes for PDP otherwise nothing for you lot.

KnowAll:

Its a simple question: Should someone be appointed a minister representing a state that he is not an indigene of - Yes or No? Undecided


The Answer is - Yes

A PDP led FG can appoint whoever it deems fit to any position as a representative of lagos state, if the said appointee claims to be from that state,  as far as the FG is concerened the party is non existant in that state and any Nigerian who claims to be from that state would do for the time being.

The selection was not down to a AC led administration, but to a non existant PDP, all of a sudden PDP Lagos Chapter has a voice when it comes to come and chop, but election time they disappear into the thin air.

It is within the realm of possibility for Dangote to be appointed as a business Czar reprensting PDP from lagos state, having traded in that city for well over 30 years.

While you are entitled to your opinion (which I disagree with), your reasoning is flawed.

1. The governorship of a state should in no way dictate their representation at the FG level, else if we dont have a dominant party, we would have a handful of states ruling the entire nation
2. It is irresponsible to advise that the FG take the word of the individual as sufficient to prove citizenship.
3. The requirement to claim citizenship is stated in the constitution and that is what should be applicable.
4. Dangote can only represent lagos to the extent the laws and constitution permits it.

While you may have your grouse with the Lagos state chapter of the PDP, that is irrelevant to the topic at hand. The reason for having federal character in the constitution is to protect the interest of all. Having anyone be able to represent anywhere he so desires will make the FC provision meaningless. Such a precedent should not be set (particularly not by southerners) cos we will be the one crying foul when the north abuses it to their advantage

I have nothing against Aganga being a minister, as long as he is appointed to the portfolio he is qualified for (I dont get how you screen ministers without a portfolio unless their qualification and competence are irrelevant), nor do I have any particular issue with a state not being represented as long as the post is filled with credible people that can do the job., but I do have an issue with changing the rules just to get someone into the office. There are rules and everyone should play by them.

No one should represent a state that he is not an indigene of.

We practise a Party politics democracy and not a zero party democracy where allegience to indigeneship is the rule. In a party politics democracy loyalty to the party is the alpha and omega. Even if u come from planet zult and u claim to be a staunch PDP follower and sympathiser then you are half way there, Aganga has through his connections with Ribadu and El-Rufai sealed his own nomination as the PDP reps for Lagos State by dining and mixing with the right people. Indigeneship has no role to play especially in a party which has had a non existant status in Lagos state.

The party needs new credible heavy weights and intellectuals after people like Bode George has brought it into disrepute. The man was born in Lagos, he speaks yoruba as a mother tongue what else do u want. Fashola did his Uni in Benin does that make him a lesser lagosian, what kind of warp thinking is that.

Those of u arguing aganst Aganga, I sense are the same people always urging and arguing in favour of Fashola, a word of advise to your thick skulls, mind your own business and let the PDP Lagos Chapter be. You cannot be with Fashola and at the same time putting your bloody noses in PDP Lagos State's business. You are war mongers, ethnic mongers, not any different from the beroms who are claiming ancestral ownership to lands several tribes in Nigeria has settled on for 100's  of years.

KnowAll:

Please stop this 'Lagos is no man's land' nonsense. Lagos belongs to the indigenes of Lagos. For those that say that Lagos was developed with federal money, the only part of Lagos developed by the federal government was Lagos Island. The [b]other parts of Lagos such as Ikeja, Shomolu, Surulere, Mushin, Ilupeju, etc were part of the Western region before they were merged with L[/b]agos Island to form Lagos State by Gowon in 1967. As long as you can still trace your way to your father's village, then you have no rights to any positions that are available to the indigenous people of Lagos.
By the way, I am not from Lagos but I was born and bred in Lagos. Mo kin se omo ale, mo mo ile baba mi.


And Aganga was part of that western state up to 1963. Part of his commonwealth was used to develop lagos state, he was born there, he can speak the lingo fluently, so why exclude him. AC propanganda.

What commonwealth exactly was that?Huh He is not an indigene, full stop! I as a Lagosian, even though I have distant roots, through my paternal great great grandmother, in Ogun State, cannot go back there to claim any sort of rights, as my people settled Ikorodu (in yoruba, awa la te e do), and are part of the custodians of the culture and heritage of that town. The achievements of my forebears and myself in the area of development without government "assistance" are as yet unmatched in the history of Nigeria.

It is somewhat trite that Katsumoto should refer to Ikeja, Shomolu, Ilupeju and other parts of the mainland as part of the Western Region. What you might not know is that the entire Ikorodu Road axis, from Ikorodu to Yaba was opened up DIRECTLY by indigenes of Ikorodu and other Ijebus, who contributed their hard earned money to construct what we now know as Ikorodu road, when the colonialists told them point blank that they were not here to develop our country, following a boat mishap that killed over 200 Ikorodu and other Ijebu businessmen and women, while crossing to Ebute Ero from Ebute Ipakodo on "Oko Owolowo" in the 1940s.

That is a bit of History that your likes and the likes of Aganga do not know, are not privy to and will never understand about Lagos State and its indigenous peoples. We are self-starters, always have been, always will be, and NEVER needed the help of any government to develop us to where we feel we need to be. If anything, it has been interference from incompetent outsiders like Tinubu (we will soon start construction of coastal road and 4th mainland bridge, and btw, the federal government withholding less than 5% of the total revenue accruable to Lagos state is responsible for the lack of development for eight solid years) and  Oyinlola (no bitumen) that has actually contributed to our under-development.

Aganga is not a Lagosian, and Lagos is not presently represented in the Executive Council of the Federation, a clear breach of Section 147(3) of the constitution. If you guys are saying we are not part of Nigeria, you better start packing your bags.

Political Parties are gentlemen's club and this club have recognised that Aganga was not only born and bred in Lagos, he is a true son of the soil who would be a dignifying asset  to lagos state PDP in the years to come. They would be proud of him and appreciate his unravelling. The PDP lagos charter does not want gate crashers and urchins like you poking their dirty noses in their business. If u feel aggrevied that Lagos is not represented at the Federal Level make efforts to make PDP the party of choice in less than 14 months from now otherwise shut-up, u can't have your cake and eat it Mister.

Nigerians from the four corners of Nigeria settled in Lagos doing their own quota in building Lagos

Those who can speak the languages of where they came from can easily claim those places but those that speak only Yoruba will become stateless, how can u be a Nigerian and be stateless. Your Father's state would not see u as part of them so would the state were u are born

felele:

What commonwealth exactly was that? He is not an indigene, full stop! I as a Lagosian, even though I have distant roots, through my paternal great great grandmother, in Ogun State, cannot go back there to claim any sort of rights, as my people settled Ikorodu (in yoruba, awa la te e do), and are part of the custodians of the culture and heritage of that town. The achievements of my forebears and myself in the area of development without government "assistance" are as yet unmatched in the history of Nigeria.

It is somewhat trite that Katsumoto should refer to Ikeja, Shomolu, Ilupeju and other parts of the mainland as part of the Western Region. What you might not know is that the entire Ikorodu Road axis, from Ikorodu to Yaba was opened up DIRECTLY by indigenes of Ikorodu and other Ijebus, who contributed their hard earned money to construct what we now know as Ikorodu road, when the colonialists told them point blank that they were not here to develop our country, following a boat mishap that killed over 200 Ikorodu and other Ijebu businessmen and women, while crossing to Ebute Ero from Ebute Ipakodo on "Oko Owolowo" in the 1940s.

That is a bit of History that your likes and the likes of Aganga do not know, are not privy to and will never understand about Lagos State and its indigenous peoples. We are self-starters, always have been, always will be, and NEVER needed the help of any government to develop us to where we feel we need to be. If anything, it has been interference from incompetent outsiders like Tinubu (we will soon start construction of coastal road and 4th mainland bridge, and btw, the federal government withholding less than 5% of the total revenue accruable to Lagos state is responsible for the lack of development for eight solid years) and  Oyinlola (no bitumen) that has actually contributed to our under-development.

Aganga is not a Lagosian, and Lagos is not presently represented in the Executive Council of the Federation, a clear breach of Section 147(3) of the constitution. If you guys are saying we are not part of Nigeria, you better start packing your bags.

KnowAll:

while you're at it, go and find out what happened to your own state's allocation for that period.


I dont have to prove it, the evidence is there for all to see. Lagos was both the Capital of Lagos State and the Federal govement. Assuming u have 18 states in the country and u give every state N0.5 million Naira making a total spend of N9 million, lagos spent 1/2 of the FG'S ALLOACATION together with that of lagos that is 6.5 million to lagos alone while the rest of the country share reminder. U dont have to be a mathematician to fathom that simple Arithmetric.

Katsumoto:

My point was directed at those who sing the usual chorus of Lagos was developed by the Federal Government. I was merely attempting to inform them that the only part of Lagos developed by the Federal Government was Lagos Island. The remaining parts of Lagos was developed firstly, by the Western Government and Lagos indigenes and then secondly. by the Lagos State Government from 1967 and to some extent, commercial bodies. The development by commercial bodies should not however, be exaggerated.

I don't know why you used the expression trite. Those parts were indeed part of the Western Region until 1967.