The truth is that tithing is good. It won't be plausible to kick against it. You just have to pay it if you have it. It is well. It is an injuction which should be followed.

chinawapz:
Nigerians are too stingy, those people against tithe are either atheist, Muslim or economist if you can track them

My dear it will shock u to knw that ur christian brethren constitute the majority

The worst kind of deceit is self-deceit because it can almost never be corrected even in the face of hard facts. The only reason the so called tithers do so is because they feel it's an insurance policy against "devourers". So the so called devourers have made Nigeria their HQ because they don't seem to exist in developed climes. You want to travel from Lagos to Ibadan, you must first plead the blood of Jesus on the road. You pray against ill-health yet do not go for check-ups and self-medicate with impunity. These charlatans thrive on the culture of fear pervading black Africa plus the poverty and underdevelopment. Give people the basics of food, decent accommodation, standard healthcare, good roads and transportation networks and see if they won't stop being stupid. These charlatans will never be so successful in places where the basic human needs have already been taken care off. Let me hear of a Redeemed in Scandinavia where the standard of living is the highest in the world, or are there no souls to be saved there? Be wise. Give to the poor and let their gratitude be a source of blessing to you, not one GO who is busy eating the best meals, sending thei kids to the best schools and flying jets with NO OBVIOUS SOURCE OF INCOME OTHER THAN CHURCH BUSINESS.#freedsheepleplease#

If Nigerians are too stingy some of your pastors wont be among richest pastor in the world cuz, 90% of their wealth come from Nigerians.

salvation101:
u are very correct sir. Those making the fuss about tithing are simply those who are looking for justification not to tithe. Its not really about d bible but about their greed. 90% of people members in the church aren't even faithful in tithing so i wonder wat d noice is about

Question for yuo
Howmany people Pay tithe ?10% who does that, so if you earn N200k/month and do not pay N20k as tithe then there is no difference btw you and freeze.There is nothing like 9.5%

Bianda24:
The truth is that tithing is good. It won't be plausible to kick against it. You just have to pay it if you have it. It is well. It is an injuction which should be followed.

Let me tell you, the people of the world who are making me and you sleep and confortable even teh pastors etc do Pay tithe, they just go to work and think of how to make the world a better place with their last sweat!
Im talking scientist here

virus05:


Okay. It doesent stop me from tithing sorry. I have more than enough to tithe. I'm not poor like you. I'm rich already . At 20 God has blessed me and i'm happy tithing. money is not my problem. God is awesome to me.

@ 20 you are rich already? No school??

chinawapz:
Nigerians are too stingy, those people against tithe are either atheist, Muslim or economist if you can track them

I am a Muslim, why should I have an opinion (for or against} tithe?

Kindly clarify
Is it that Nigerians are stingy or
Non-Christians are against tithe?

Segeshow:
The worst kind of deceit is self-deceit because it can almost never be corrected even in the face of hard facts. The only reason the so called tithers do so is because they feel it's an insurance policy against "devourers". So the so called devourers have made Nigeria their HQ because they don't seem to exist in developed climes. You want to travel from Lagos to Ibadan, you must first plead the blood of Jesus on the road. You pray against ill-health yet do not go for check-ups and self-medicate with impunity. These charlatans thrive on the culture of fear pervading black Africa plus the poverty and underdevelopment. Give people the basics of food, decent accommodation, standard healthcare, good roads and transportation networks and see if they won't stop being stupid. These charlatans will never be so successful in places where the basic human needs have already been taken care off. Let me hear of a Redeemed in Scandinavia where the standard of living is the highest in the world, or are there no souls to be saved there? Be wise. Give to the poor and let their gratitude be a source of blessing to you, not one GO who is busy eating the best meals, sending thei kids to the best schools and flying jets with NO OBVIOUS SOURCE OF INCOME OTHER THAN CHURCH BUSINESS.#freedsheepleplease#

Gbam

Opinedecandid:


He is simply asking you 'how many of those categories of people have u given 10% of your income to'?
Maybe non, your stinginess or unbelief is the problem, not the church.

And I also simply asked him to show me his tithe card as proof that he pays tithe... .

And I also ask u, Where is evidence that u pay10% of ur earning as tithe., Because i can smell ur unbelief n stinginess² from 10,000kms it's Oozes from ogbomosho to my location via 6G.

If the men of God you worship cant justify tithing scripturally then why fatten them?

Religious slaves.

PrecisionFx:



Oga stop derailing ur sense.

Bible said tithes should be paid to Orphan, Levites, motherless, Fatherless, and poor people generally. People who want to give them poor people should do so. They are not expected to upload proof to u.

Your brain is just stingy. How many less privileged v you helped?
You, Freeze n others are agents of talk is cheap!
If not for tithe & offerings, you d still be uneducated. Go & check the history of the early missionary schools in Nigeria.

icemuyoo: 12:54pm On Dec 10

TITHING IS NOT A CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE
Essay by Russell Earl Kelly, PHD
www.tithing-russkelly.com
January 31, 2015
1. DEFINING THE TITHE: True biblical holy tithes were always only food from the holy land and herds of Israelites who lived inside God’s holy land, the boundary of Israel. They were the tenth of crops after the full harvest (not the best); they were the tenth increase of clean animals (not the best) (Lev. 27:30-34).
Common sense demands that, if one is going to quote Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Malachi and Matthew to teach tithing, then one should use the exact definition used by Moses, Nehemiah, Malachi and Jesus. Yes, the basic word tithemeans tenth. However in God’s Word tithe does not stand alone; its meaning is very limited. Although money existed before tithing, the source of God's holy tithe for over 1500 years [Moses to Jesus; Leviticus to Luke] was never money (Mal. 3:10; Mt 23:23). The increase was not from man’s hand or ability; the increase was from what God Himself miraculously produced from His own holy land. No holy tithes could come from non-food items, from Gentiles or from unclean pagan lands. 
There are 16 verses from 11 chapters and 8 books from Leviticus 27 to Luke 11 which describe the contents of the holy tithe. And those contents never included money, silver, gold or anything other than food from inside Israel! Yet the incorrect definition of tithe as “the first tenth of income” is the greatest error being preached about tithing today! Lev 27:30, 32; Numb 18:27-28; Deut 12:17; 14:22-23; 26:12; 2 Chron 31:5-6; Neh 10:37; 13:5; Mal 3:10-11; Matt 23:23; Luke 11:42. In order to be honest tithe-teachers must honestly use the biblical definition of the holy tithe.
2. MONEY WAS NOT TITHED: Although money in the form of gold and silver existed in the Bible and was essential for sanctuary/temple worship, money was never included in any of the 16 descriptions of the holy tithe.

According to Jesus' literal words, money with the image of Caesar (civil government) or the unholy language (such as English) could not be used for Temple worship and must only be "rendered untdo Caesar" (Mark 12:17).

 One argument to support non-food tithing is that money was not universally available and barter from food was used for money. That argument misses the point! While it is undeniable that food was also used for barter, it is also undeniable that money was never used for tithing.

Genesis alone contains the word money in 32 texts and the word occurs 44 times before the holy tithe is described in Leviticus 27:30-34. The words jewelry, gold, silver and shekel also appear often from Genesis to Deuteronomy. 
Abram was very rich in silver and gold (Gen 13:2); money in the form of silver shekels paid for slaves (Gen 17:12+); Abimelech gave Abraham 1000 pieces of silver (Gen 20:16); Abraham paid 400 pieces of silver for land (Gen 23:9-16); Joseph was sold for silver pieces (Gen 37:28); slaves bought freedom (Lev 25:47-53). Court fines (Ex 21 all; 22 all), sanctuary dues (Ex 30:12+), vows (Lev 27:3-7), poll taxes (Numb 3:47+), alcoholic drinks (Deut 14:26) and marriage dowries (Deut 22:29) included money. 
Joseph gave Benjamin 300 pieces of silver (Gen 45:22). In Genesis 47:15-17, food was used for barter only after money had been spent. Banking and usury laws exist in Leviticus even before tithing. Therefore money was common. Yet, from God’s inspired Word, the holy contents from Leviticus to Luke never include money from non-food products and trades. Pagan money with pagan images could not be brought into the temple as offerings. 
3.  ABRAM AND JACOB’S TITHES WERE FROM PAGAN SOURCES: Abram’s tithe (Gen 14:18-20) to Melchizedek and Jacob’s freewill vow (Gen 28:20-22) were from pagan sources and would not have been accepted by Moses, Malachi or Jesus as holy tithes.
Many reputable books document the existence of spoils of war tithing from Babylon to Egypt before Abraham’s time. For the following reasons, Abram’s (not yet Abraham; 17:5) pre-circumcision tithe in Genesis 14:20 cannot be used as an example for Christians to tithe. (1) The Bible does not say “why” Abram tithed pagan spoils of war or that he freely gave his pagan-source tithe. (2) Abram’s gift was NOT a) a holy tithe b) from inside God’s holy land c) miraculously increased by God’s hand d) gathered by God’s holy people e) under God’s holy Old Covenant. (3) Abram’s tithe was clearly only from pagan spoils of war [Sodom] and was required in many nations as the law of the land. It was not the same as the holy tithe reference by Moses, Nehemiah, Malachi and Jesus. (4) In Numbers 31:21-31, God’s Law only required 1% of spoils of war as an ordinance. Therefore if the Law had existed in Abram’s time, he would have only given 1%. (5) Abram’s tithe to the priest-king Melchizedek was a one-time recorded event; it is never mentioned under the Law.. (6) Abram’s tithe was not from his previously-owned personal property; we are not told that he tithed anything from what he previously owned. (7) Abram’s (ignored) example was to keep nothing for himself; he gave everything back. ( Abram’s tithe is not quoted anywhere in the Bible to endorse tithing from Israel or by the church. Why not if it were so all-important to merit mention almost weekly? (9) Genesis 14, verse 21, is the key text. Since most commentaries explain verse 21 as an example of pagan Arab law, it is contradictory to explain the 90% of verse 21 as pagan, while insisting that the 10% of verse 20 was obedience to God’s will. (10) Abram gave the 90% to the King of Sodom. Would it not have been better to give it all to Melchizedek? If Abraham is an example for Christians to give 10% to God, then should he also be an example for Christians to give the other 90% to Satan, or to the king of Sodom? (11) As priests themselves, neither Abraham nor Jacob had a Levitical priesthood to support. Their tithes were probably for the poor at their altars to Yahweh.
4. THE GOD’S- OWNERSHIP PRINCIPLE. Even though it is true that “God owns everything” (Psalm 24:1), that does not prove that God expects tithes from all believers. Psalm 24:1 actually proves that tithes were limited and not universal. It proves that God did not consider all land on earth to be holy and capable of producing holy tithes. Otherwise God would have accepted food from outside Israel as holy tithes; He did not!
Yes, “God owns everything” but He only received tithes under the Old Covenant Law from food He increased from within His HOLY land of Israel! That is the biblical fact! Tithes were never merchandise, gold, silver or precious stones. If God had expected all Israelites to tithe in the Old Testament time, such would not be true.
5. NO MINIMUM STANDARD: Tithing was not a minimum requirement from all Israelites. Tithe-advocates teach that Christians must begin their level of giving at a minimum of the first 10% of total increase. They erroneously teach that 10% was the least required from Old Covenant Hebrews and, therefore, the New Covenant believer must begin there. This is wrong because tithes could only come from the HOLY increase of food from inside God’s HOLY land. There was no minimal beginning point of giving for Hebrews who worked non-food trades and crafts and for those living outside Israel; there was no minimum precedent for comparison. Carpenters like Jesus did not qualify; tentmakers outside of Israel did not qualify.
6. THE PURPOSE OF THE TITHE: The purpose of the first tithe was (1) to replace the loss of any inheritance or portion of Israel’s wealth in the land and (2) to pay Levites and priests for their labor in the sanctuary and temple.
Numb 18:20 And the LORD spoke to Aaron, You shall have no inheritance in their land; neither shall you have any part among them: I am your part and your inheritance among the children of Israel.
Levites and priests were to have no inheritance “in the land” (not “of the land”). That meant they were neither to inherit land nor to inherit anything else from any other source. “Neither have any part among them” meant they were not to share in the wealth of other Israelites. That explains why Levites are first in line among the poor in Deuteronomy 14:29. In other words, they were expected to remain among the poor and humble. See comments on the third tithe.
Tithe-advocates totally ignore the clear declared purpose in the tithing statute/ordinance of Numbers 18 and keep repeating their devised purpose that the tithe is to “acknowledge God’s ownership of everything.” Though their supplanted purpose may sound good, it is not biblical. Few, if any, tithing sermons are preached from Numbers 18:20-29.
7. THE FIRST LEVITICAL TITHE: The tithe of Leviticus 27:30-34 and Numbers 18:20-29 was very different from the modern teaching of tithing. It was divided into two categories. The first whole 10% did not go to the priests who ministered at the altar (Numb 18:20-24; Neh. 10:37b). Instead it went to the Levite-servants to the priests who functioned as bakers, singers, musicians, guards, animal skinners, janitors, builders, craftsmen and treasurers in the sanctuary/temple. King David also used them as judges, rulers and politicians (Numbers 3; 1st Chronicles, chapters 23 to 26). This is certainly not taught today as it seriously changes modern tithing concepts.
According to Numbers 18:25-28 and Nehemiah 10:38, the Levites, in turn, gave their best tenth of their tenth (1%) to the priests who ministered at the altar. God was their unique inheritance and their unique part. The tithe ended there; priests did not tithe. For obvious reasons, this is also not taught today. While priests were not commanded to tithe, they were evidently expected to give freewill vow offerings (Malachi 1:7-14). The main income of priests was not from tithes; it was from freewill offerings (Numbers 18 all; Nehemiah 10:35-38). Today all believers are priests (1 Peter 2:9-10; Rev 5:10) and priests did not tithe. This fact should have a profound impact on post Calvary giving principles.
Also, tithe-advocates do not include Leviticus 27:34 in their sermons, “These are the commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses for the children of Israel in Mount Sinai.” They only preach from their greatly distorted versions of 27:30-33. It is obvious why they omit 27:34 from its context of 27:30-33. It limits the tithe of Moses, Nehemiah, Malachi and Jesus to Old Covenant Israel.
8. NO INHERITANCE OR SHARE: God forbade Levites and priests who received the first whole tithe from owning property in his land or receiving any other inheritances. He also forbade them from sharing wealth with other Hebrews (“no portion among them”). This Bible fact is found an amazing 12 times in (Numb 18:20, 26; Deut 10:9; 12:12; 14:27, 29; 18:1; Josh 13:14, 33; 14:3; 18:7; Eze 44:28). Evidently God meant what He said to repeat it so often! If gospel workers want to preach tithing principles, this one should definitely be included! Even if tithes were New Covenant they would first go to the deacons, singers, musicians and builders who vaguely correspond to Old Covenant Levites and the minister would only get a tenth of their tithe.

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Tithing: The Scriptural Conclusion Pt2. Phd THESIS by nicemuyoo: 2:41pm On Dec 10

TITHING IS NOT A CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE
Essay by Russell Earl Kelly, PHD
www.tithing-russkelly.com
January 31, 2015
Continuation...
9. HOLY AND MOST HOLY: The phrases, It is Holy to the LORD and It is Most Holy to the LORD do not make tithing an eternal moral principle. An eternal moral principle is one that is known by nature and conscience (Rom 18:1-20; 2:14-16; John 1:9). It does not require special revelation. Giving, worship-rest and 9 of the Ten Commandments are eternal moral principles because they are written in the heart; how much to give and which day to worship are not. Both the holy and most-holy phrases are very common in Leviticus. However, except for modern tithing, almost every other use of them has long ago been discarded by Christians. These phrases are used to describe all the festivals, the sacrificial offerings, the clean foods, the old covenant priests and the old covenant sanctuary. Especially read verses 28 and 29 in chapter 27. 
While the tithe of the tithe (1%) which was given to the priests was the best of what the Levites received, the tithe which the Levites received was only one tenth and was not even the best (Lev 27:33). Yet most tithe-teachers refer to the tithe as the best and first ten per cent.
10. THE SECOND TITHE: Old Covenant Hebrews were clearly expected to bring a second tithe at their three annual feasts, or festivals (Deut. 12:6-7; 14:23). Distinct from the first tithe which was only for Levites and priests, this was to be eaten by all in the streets of Jerusalem. It did not go to the temple; its purpose was “that you may learn to fear the LORD always.” The first-born of the herds was in addition to this tithe (proof that first and tenth were different). This meant that the tithe was at least 20% instead of 10%. Yet most tithe-advocates do not teach 20% tithing.
11. THE THIRD TITHE: Old Covenant Hebrews were also commanded to keep a third tithe at home in their cities every third year (Deut. 14:28-29). This was an extra subsidy for Levites who were expected to be first in line among the poor (14:29). This meant a total tithe of around 23% instead of 10% (plus another 10% government tax (1 Sam. 8:14-17). Some teach that this replaced the 2nd festival tithe every third year. However, if this were true, there would be no food for the three yearly festivals. Again, it is obvious why this is not taught today.
12. FIRST-FRUITS: In God’s Word, firstfruits and firstborn are never the same thing as tithes. Firstfruits were the first wave-sheaf of the whole harvest, not the best (Lev. 23:10); in addition to the tithe, they were the “first offspring of your herds and flocks,” not the best (Deut. 12:7). Unlike the food-tithe, it was a very small token amount of the first crops harvested and was small enough to fit into a hand-held basket (Deut. 26:1-10). Firstfruits were a very small token offering -- like a handful of grapes or olives. And, like tithes, first-fruits and first-born were always only food from inside God’s holy land of Israel. 
In Nehemiah 10:35-37a first-fruits and first-born offerings went directly to the Temple and were required to be totally consumed by ministering priests only inside the Temple. While the Levites ate only the tithe, the priests could also eat from the first-fruits, first-born offerings and other offerings. All of this is very clear from God’s Word.
In 1 Tim 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
 
First Timothy 5:8 is the new Spirit-taught "first." A Christian's first obligation is for the needs (not wants) of his/her immediate family.   God wants you to make sure you can buy medicine, feed and shelter your family. Even the heathen do that (Rom 2:14-16). A Christian who neglects his/her family's necessities is worse than unbelievers. And a pastor who convinces Christians to give their first to the church to the neglect of caring for their own family is guilty of sin against God's cleat post-Calvary command.
Because the differences between firstfruits and tithes are so clear, one must conclude that educated tithe-teachers deliberately lie when they equate firstfruits with tithes! There is simply no honest excuse for this distortion of God’s Word. Yet almost all of them tell this lie. It is an outrage almost to the point of blasphemy and must stop!
13. THE COVENANT OF MALACHI: Tithing is nowhere commanded in the New Covenant (post-Calvary). The only covenants mentioned in Malachi are God’s special covenant with the Levitical priesthood (2:4-5) and the Old Covenant Law (4:4). The New Covenant was 0ver 400 years away (Jer. 31:31-37; Heb. 8:8-13). The New Covenant was truly “new”; it was not a re-statement of the Old. It was “… not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers” at Mount Sinai (Jer. 31:32; Heb. 8:9). The New Covenant did not include post-Calvary tithing to support a Levitical priesthood which was forbidden from owning property.
Tithe-teachers who preach tithing from Deuteronomy, Nehemiah, Malachi, Matthew and Luke ignore proper principles of interpretation, the covenant and the context of those books. Malachi is addressed to Old Covenant Israel and not to the Church (1:1). It is never quoted in the New Covenant (after Calvary) to validate tithing. In fact Malachi specifically reminds its readers of its context of the Law, “Remember the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments” (4:4) (also Neh. 10:28-29).
14. THE REAL GOD-ROBBERS OF MALACHI: The God-robbers of Malachi were actually the dishonest priests of Judah and not the general population. Beginning at Malachi 1:6 God addresses the dishonest ministers at the altar of Judah as “you”: “… unto you, O priests that despise my name.” Follow the pronoun “you”; it does not change in the remainder of Malachi. Priests offer polluted bread on the altar (1:7). Priests offer inferior animals for sacrifice (1:. Priests are in charge of the doors and starting sacrificial fires (1:10). Priests had better animals in their flocks received as tithes (1:14; Numb. 18:25-29). Priests were cursed (1:14). Priests are addressed again: “And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you” (2:1). The blessings of the priests are cursed (2:2). Priests had broken their special covenant with Levi (2:4-5). Priests had not taught God’s Law (2:6-10). Priests covered the altar with their tears (2:13). Priests had married Gentile wives (2:14-16). Priests mock God and ask why He had not judged them (2:17). God promises to punish the priests (3:1-7). Every priest in the nation has helped steal the tithes from the Levites (Neh 13:5-10). God curses the priests once again (1:14; 2:2; 3:9). Priests are told to return the stolen tithes (from Neh 13:5) back to the temple storerooms (3:10).
This contextual sequence makes sense because, contrary to what  most of us have been told, the ordinary people were to take their tithes, not to the temple, but to the Levitical cities where the vast majority of the Levites and priests needed them for food (Neh 10:37b). King Hezekiah discovered too late that the small storeroom in Solomon’s temple was far too small to hold the tithe of the nation and it piled up in the streets before being re-distributed to the Levitical cities (2 Chron 31:1-19) (1 Kings 6:6). This also perfectly explains Malachi 3:10.

15. TODAY’S TITHE-TEACHERS STEAL TITHES: Many gospel workers who receive “tithes” and teach that Christians must give the first ten per cent of their income are even more guilty of stealing from God. They chastise their own New Covenant Christian congregations: “If you are not paying your tithes, you are stealing from God. You are wearing stolen clothes, driving stolen cars and are living in stolen houses.”
Again the Bible says 12 times that those who received the first whole tithe were not allowed to own property. If these tithe-teachers connect post-Calvary stewardship to pre-Calvary tithing, they are guilty of stealing from God (1) by owning property, (2) by receiving other inheritances, (3) by sharing in the wealth of fellow believers (“have no part among them”), (4) by receiving more than the O.T. priests’ share of the tithe at 1% (Numb 18:20-28; Neh 10:37b-38) and (5) by equating first and tenth in order to squeeze government welfare checks from the poorest in their flock.
Receiving tithes did not mean that Old Covenant Levites and priests must have been full time and could not work other jobs. It only meant that they could not own property inside Israel. In fact it was necessary for them to learn and work other trades in order to build and maintain the sanctuary or temple (Numbers 3; 1 Chronicles 23-26). Most church historians document that even high priests in Jesus’ time also had and worked other vocations.
What remains? Preach the truth: freewill sacrificial giving principles endorsed by the Holy Spirit after Calvary (2 Cor. 8 and 9).
16.  THE CURSES OF MALACHI: Without a doubt the curses of Malachi are the curses of the Law (1:14; 2:2; 3:9; Neh. 10:28-29). “Cursed is every one that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them” (Gal. 3:10 quoting Deut. 27:26). The blessings and curses of tithing are identical to (and inseparable from) those of the entire Mosaic Law. One must keep the whole law in order to be blessed (not simply tithe); breaking one part of the law brought its curses.
The rain in Malachi 3:10 is the same in Leviticus 28:1-4 and Deuteronomy 28:12, 23-24; it is only delivered after obedience to all 600+ commandments. The devourer of Malachi 3:11 is the same as Deuteronomy 28:21.
Some tithe teachers go beyond credibility to place blood-washed redeemed New Covenant believers under the curse of the Old Covenant. In fact Gentile Christians never were under that Law; they were condemned by nature and conscience (Rom 1:18-20:14-16). Hebrew Christians who were once under it are now dead to it (Romans 7:4). God’s Word clearly declares that “Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us” (Gal. 3:13). Certainly this text is also in the tithe-teacher’s Bible!  The question is: “What post-Calvary New Covenant principle of interpretation give tithe-teachers authority to say that Christians who do not “tithe” are cursed?” What curse is it? You are quoting Malachi 3:9; is it the curse of the Old Covenant? Since the whole 10% went to the Levites (Numb. 18:20-24) and the priests only received a tenth of their tenth (Numb.18:25-28), are not gospel ministers who teach tithing cursed if they receive more than one per cent?
17. THIS WHOLE NATION: With the exception of Malachi 2:11-12 which is speaking third-person to all Judah, the “you” of Malachi is only the priests from 1:6 onward. “Even this whole nation” (3:9 KJV) is “the whole nation –of you” (NASU, NIV, RSV). It means “every priest in the whole nation had been involved in stealing the tithes from the storeroom in Nehemiah 13:5. This forced the Levites to return to their cities for food and the temple was closed (Neh 13:5-10). Nehemiah is the likely context of Malachi 3:8-10.
18. BRING ALL THE TITHE INTO THE STOREHOUSE (MALACHI 3:10): If this is speaking to all the people of Judah, there is a logistics’ problem. (1) The temple complex had no huge storage facilities to hold all the tithe of the nation. King Hezekiah discovered this in 2nd Chronicles 31:5-9 and re-distributed the tithes to the Levitical cities (31:15-19). (2) According to Nehemiah 13:5 at least some of the tithe had been stored in a large room; the largest combined storage room in the temple complex was no larger than 20 feet by 20’ feet (1 Kings 6:6). (3) There were 24 courses of Levites and priests which only served in the temple a week at a time (twice a year). Thus 23 of 24 courses, all women and all men under 20 stayed in the Levitical cities. That means about 2% of Levites and priests served in the temple at any normal week (2 Chron 31:2, 15). Therefore, it makes no sense whatsoever to store 100% of the tithe in the temple if 98% of its users were elsewhere and Malachi 3:10 is very confusing indeed. Also see 1 Chron 23-26; see also 28:13, 21; 2 Chron 8:14; 23:8; 31:2, 15-19; 35:4, 5, 10; Ezra 6:18; Neh 11:19, 30; 12:24; 13:9, 10; Luke 1:5.  
However, ,if  “you” in Malachi 3:10 only refers to the dishonest priests from 1:6-14; 2:1-10, 13-17; 3-1-5 and Nehemiah 13:5-10, then the text makes sense. (1) The general population brings their Levitical tithes to the Levitical cities where it is needed (Neh 10:37b). (2) The Levites and priests together receive the tithes in the Levitical cities (Neh 10:38). (3) Levites bring what is needed for a week to the temple storeroom (tithes and offerings) (Neh. 10:39). Levites are assisted by the population which brings their firstfruits-offerings (Neh. 10:35-37a, 39). Nehemiah 10:35-39 is the key to understanding Malachi 3:10. (See Joshua 20-21 and Numbers 35 for the Levitical cities.)

19. THE TEMPLE STOREROOM: It is wrong to compare the temple storeroom to the church. (1) The church (assembly of believers) is never called a “storehouse” or “building” in God’s Word; there is no precedent. (2) The temple was not a “storehouse” for the tithes of the nation; the great tithes were brought to the Levitical cities where those who needed them for food lived (Neh 10:37b-38). (3) The largest room in the temple was about 10 feet by 20 feet (1 Kings 6:6). Doubling that room as suggested in Nehemiah 13:5 would still make it too small to hold the tithe of the nation as King Hezekiah discovered in 2ndChronicles 31:9. (4) 1st Corinthians 16:2 does not teach storehouse-tithing. a) it concerns freewill offerings for famine relief and not support of gospel workers (16:1). b) the text probably refers to setting aside food at home and c) there were no legal church buildings for almost 300 years after Calvary.

20. Matthew 23:23: The post-Calvary New Covenant does not teach tithing. It did not begin at the birth of Jesus, but at his death (Gal. 3:19, 24, 25; 4:4, 5). Tithing is not taught to the church after the cross! When Jesus discussed tithing in Matthew 23:23, “you” referred to “teachers of the Law,” “you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites” who had made the Law a burden. As a faithful (and sinless) Jew, Jesus endorsed and supported the entire Old Covenant law until the cross. (Note “matters of the law” in 23:23). It would have been SIN to teach otherwise. The context was before Calvary.
In Matthew 23:2 and 3 (the context of 23:23) Jesus told his Jewish followers to obey the scribes and Pharisees "because they sit in Moses’ seat." Yet He did not (and could not) command Gentiles whom He healed to present themselves to the priests and obey the Law of Moses (compare Matt 5:23-24 and 8:4). If pastors literally obeyed Matthew 23:23, they would literally command Christians to tithe from garden herbs as Jesus commanded. 
There is not a single New Testament Bible text which teaches tithing after the cross! Acts 2:42-47 and 4:32-35 are not examples of tithing to support church leaders. According to 2:46 the Jewish Christians continued to worship in the Temple. And according to 2:44 and 4:33, 34 church leaders shared what they received equally with all church members. (This is not done today). 
Finally Acts 21:20-25 proves that Jewish Christians were still zealously observing all of the Mosaic Law 30 years later –and that must include tithing—otherwise they would not have been allowed inside the Temple to worship. Therefore, any tithes collected by the early Jewish Christians were given to the Temple system and not to support the church

salvation101:
u are very correct sir. Those making the fuss about tithing are simply those who are looking for justification not to tithe. Its not really about d bible but about their greed. 90% of people members in the church aren't even faithful in tithing so i wonder wat d noice is about

I can't be glad giving my tithe to a church dat Im not comfortable with how the money got is spent and the humanitarian side of the church even to its own is in serious doubt. I don't do thing based on emotions or popularity appeal bt on belief. Many pastors i know talk about money more thAn the cbn governors during church service. They either cajole u or carry u on guilty trips just to drop biggest offerings in an almost desperate manner. Same churches are never there for their suffering members sadly. Their lack of empathy and genuine/practical care to their lacking and needy members made me reduce my church attendance cos I don't want to be caught up in religious gimmicks and routines and lose myself consciousness to Godlike attitude

OBIGS:
A man of God preaching to me not to live a worldly life but ends up showing up on instagram his rides, his jets, designer watches, suits and shoes. not even forgetting the women accusing him of adultery. Make I no call name. But the God I've come to know wont live such lifestyle. I simply believe most Pentecostal Churches have turned to show house And business empires.

The church h knows the condition of the society that's why they emphasize more on prosperity than salvation.
they don't care if you make heaven or hell

You can only understand freeze when you choose to understand the Bible as it is not what a pastor tells you it is.

Wise up people
I dey my house dey watch Emmanuel TV.

So on point!
God bless u 4 me

erico2k2:

@ 20 you are rich already? No school??

I'm a uniport student bro. I wont say rich, Na hustling things. I'm into cpa marketing. Getting around 300-400k monthly

Deception needs to be exposed

AishaBuhari:
Stop attacking Pastors about Tithes, members willingly pay tithes without being forced! Hold responsible your leaders who forcefully make you pay tax!

I just hate the poor mentalities of Nigerians - Too poor as if they've got no brains.

virus05:


I'm a uniport student bro. I wont say rich, Na hustling things. I'm into cpa marketing. Getting around 300-400k monthly

Thats over hyped, I know u r in Uniport comp science.Stp telling people U make 300 to 400k, it dnt make sense,Face your Education and get a good degree/Grade

nicemuyoo:
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Tithing: The Scriptural Conclusion Pt2. Phd THESIS by nicemuyoo: 2:41pm On Dec 10

TITHING IS NOT A CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE
Essay by Russell Earl Kelly, PHD
www.tithing-russkelly.com
January 31, 2015
Continuation...
9. HOLY AND MOST HOLY: The phrases, It is Holy to the LORD and It is Most Holy to the LORD do not make tithing an eternal moral principle. An eternal moral principle is one that is known by nature and conscience (Rom 18:1-20; 2:14-16; John 1:9). It does not require special revelation. Giving, worship-rest and 9 of the Ten Commandments are eternal moral principles because they are written in the heart; how much to give and which day to worship are not. Both the holy and most-holy phrases are very common in Leviticus. However, except for modern tithing, almost every other use of them has long ago been discarded by Christians. These phrases are used to describe all the festivals, the sacrificial offerings, the clean foods, the old covenant priests and the old covenant sanctuary. Especially read verses 28 and 29 in chapter 27. 
While the tithe of the tithe (1%) which was given to the priests was the best of what the Levites received, the tithe which the Levites received was only one tenth and was not even the best (Lev 27:33). Yet most tithe-teachers refer to the tithe as the best and first ten per cent.
10. THE SECOND TITHE: Old Covenant Hebrews were clearly expected to bring a second tithe at their three annual feasts, or festivals (Deut. 12:6-7; 14:23). Distinct from the first tithe which was only for Levites and priests, this was to be eaten by all in the streets of Jerusalem. It did not go to the temple; its purpose was “that you may learn to fear the LORD always.” The first-born of the herds was in addition to this tithe (proof that first and tenth were different). This meant that the tithe was at least 20% instead of 10%. Yet most tithe-advocates do not teach 20% tithing.
11. THE THIRD TITHE: Old Covenant Hebrews were also commanded to keep a third tithe at home in their cities every third year (Deut. 14:28-29). This was an extra subsidy for Levites who were expected to be first in line among the poor (14:29). This meant a total tithe of around 23% instead of 10% (plus another 10% government tax (1 Sam. 8:14-17). Some teach that this replaced the 2nd festival tithe every third year. However, if this were true, there would be no food for the three yearly festivals. Again, it is obvious why this is not taught today.
12. FIRST-FRUITS: In God’s Word, firstfruits and firstborn are never the same thing as tithes. Firstfruits were the first wave-sheaf of the whole harvest, not the best (Lev. 23:10); in addition to the tithe, they were the “first offspring of your herds and flocks,” not the best (Deut. 12:7). Unlike the food-tithe, it was a very small token amount of the first crops harvested and was small enough to fit into a hand-held basket (Deut. 26:1-10). Firstfruits were a very small token offering -- like a handful of grapes or olives. And, like tithes, first-fruits and first-born were always only food from inside God’s holy land of Israel. 
In Nehemiah 10:35-37a first-fruits and first-born offerings went directly to the Temple and were required to be totally consumed by ministering priests only inside the Temple. While the Levites ate only the tithe, the priests could also eat from the first-fruits, first-born offerings and other offerings. All of this is very clear from God’s Word.
In 1 Tim 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
 
First Timothy 5:8 is the new Spirit-taught "first." A Christian's first obligation is for the needs (not wants) of his/her immediate family.   God wants you to make sure you can buy medicine, feed and shelter your family. Even the heathen do that (Rom 2:14-16). A Christian who neglects his/her family's necessities is worse than unbelievers. And a pastor who convinces Christians to give their first to the church to the neglect of caring for their own family is guilty of sin against God's cleat post-Calvary command.
Because the differences between firstfruits and tithes are so clear, one must conclude that educated tithe-teachers deliberately lie when they equate firstfruits with tithes! There is simply no honest excuse for this distortion of God’s Word. Yet almost all of them tell this lie. It is an outrage almost to the point of blasphemy and must stop!
13. THE COVENANT OF MALACHI: Tithing is nowhere commanded in the New Covenant (post-Calvary). The only covenants mentioned in Malachi are God’s special covenant with the Levitical priesthood (2:4-5) and the Old Covenant Law (4:4). The New Covenant was 0ver 400 years away (Jer. 31:31-37; Heb. 8:8-13). The New Covenant was truly “new”; it was not a re-statement of the Old. It was “… not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers” at Mount Sinai (Jer. 31:32; Heb. 8:9). The New Covenant did not include post-Calvary tithing to support a Levitical priesthood which was forbidden from owning property.
Tithe-teachers who preach tithing from Deuteronomy, Nehemiah, Malachi, Matthew and Luke ignore proper principles of interpretation, the covenant and the context of those books. Malachi is addressed to Old Covenant Israel and not to the Church (1:1). It is never quoted in the New Covenant (after Calvary) to validate tithing. In fact Malachi specifically reminds its readers of its context of the Law, “Remember the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments” (4:4) (also Neh. 10:28-29).
14. THE REAL GOD-ROBBERS OF MALACHI: The God-robbers of Malachi were actually the dishonest priests of Judah and not the general population. Beginning at Malachi 1:6 God addresses the dishonest ministers at the altar of Judah as “you”: “… unto you, O priests that despise my name.” Follow the pronoun “you”; it does not change in the remainder of Malachi. Priests offer polluted bread on the altar (1:7). Priests offer inferior animals for sacrifice (1:. Priests are in charge of the doors and starting sacrificial fires (1:10). Priests had better animals in their flocks received as tithes (1:14; Numb. 18:25-29). Priests were cursed (1:14). Priests are addressed again: “And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you” (2:1). The blessings of the priests are cursed (2:2). Priests had broken their special covenant with Levi (2:4-5). Priests had not taught God’s Law (2:6-10). Priests covered the altar with their tears (2:13). Priests had married Gentile wives (2:14-16). Priests mock God and ask why He had not judged them (2:17). God promises to punish the priests (3:1-7). Every priest in the nation has helped steal the tithes from the Levites (Neh 13:5-10). God curses the priests once again (1:14; 2:2; 3:9). Priests are told to return the stolen tithes (from Neh 13:5) back to the temple storerooms (3:10).
This contextual sequence makes sense because, contrary to what  most of us have been told, the ordinary people were to take their tithes, not to the temple, but to the Levitical cities where the vast majority of the Levites and priests needed them for food (Neh 10:37b). King Hezekiah discovered too late that the small storeroom in Solomon’s temple was far too small to hold the tithe of the nation and it piled up in the streets before being re-distributed to the Levitical cities (2 Chron 31:1-19) (1 Kings 6:6). This also perfectly explains Malachi 3:10.

15. TODAY’S TITHE-TEACHERS STEAL TITHES: Many gospel workers who receive “tithes” and teach that Christians must give the first ten per cent of their income are even more guilty of stealing from God. They chastise their own New Covenant Christian congregations: “If you are not paying your tithes, you are stealing from God. You are wearing stolen clothes, driving stolen cars and are living in stolen houses.”
Again the Bible says 12 times that those who received the first whole tithe were not allowed to own property. If these tithe-teachers connect post-Calvary stewardship to pre-Calvary tithing, they are guilty of stealing from God (1) by owning property, (2) by receiving other inheritances, (3) by sharing in the wealth of fellow believers (“have no part among them”), (4) by receiving more than the O.T. priests’ share of the tithe at 1% (Numb 18:20-28; Neh 10:37b-38) and (5) by equating first and tenth in order to squeeze government welfare checks from the poorest in their flock.
Receiving tithes did not mean that Old Covenant Levites and priests must have been full time and could not work other jobs. It only meant that they could not own property inside Israel. In fact it was necessary for them to learn and work other trades in order to build and maintain the sanctuary or temple (Numbers 3; 1 Chronicles 23-26). Most church historians document that even high priests in Jesus’ time also had and worked other vocations.
What remains? Preach the truth: freewill sacrificial giving principles endorsed by the Holy Spirit after Calvary (2 Cor. 8 and 9).
16.  THE CURSES OF MALACHI: Without a doubt the curses of Malachi are the curses of the Law (1:14; 2:2; 3:9; Neh. 10:28-29). “Cursed is every one that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them” (Gal. 3:10 quoting Deut. 27:26). The blessings and curses of tithing are identical to (and inseparable from) those of the entire Mosaic Law. One must keep the whole law in order to be blessed (not simply tithe); breaking one part of the law brought its curses.
The rain in Malachi 3:10 is the same in Leviticus 28:1-4 and Deuteronomy 28:12, 23-24; it is only delivered after obedience to all 600+ commandments. The devourer of Malachi 3:11 is the same as Deuteronomy 28:21.
Some tithe teachers go beyond credibility to place blood-washed redeemed New Covenant believers under the curse of the Old Covenant. In fact Gentile Christians never were under that Law; they were condemned by nature and conscience (Rom 1:18-20:14-16). Hebrew Christians who were once under it are now dead to it (Romans 7:4). God’s Word clearly declares that “Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us” (Gal. 3:13). Certainly this text is also in the tithe-teacher’s Bible!  The question is: “What post-Calvary New Covenant principle of interpretation give tithe-teachers authority to say that Christians who do not “tithe” are cursed?” What curse is it? You are quoting Malachi 3:9; is it the curse of the Old Covenant? Since the whole 10% went to the Levites (Numb. 18:20-24) and the priests only received a tenth of their tenth (Numb.18:25-28), are not gospel ministers who teach tithing cursed if they receive more than one per cent?
17. THIS WHOLE NATION: With the exception of Malachi 2:11-12 which is speaking third-person to all Judah, the “you” of Malachi is only the priests from 1:6 onward. “Even this whole nation” (3:9 KJV) is “the whole nation –of you” (NASU, NIV, RSV). It means “every priest in the whole nation had been involved in stealing the tithes from the storeroom in Nehemiah 13:5. This forced the Levites to return to their cities for food and the temple was closed (Neh 13:5-10). Nehemiah is the likely context of Malachi 3:8-10.
18. BRING ALL THE TITHE INTO THE STOREHOUSE (MALACHI 3:10): If this is speaking to all the people of Judah, there is a logistics’ problem. (1) The temple complex had no huge storage facilities to hold all the tithe of the nation. King Hezekiah discovered this in 2nd Chronicles 31:5-9 and re-distributed the tithes to the Levitical cities (31:15-19). (2) According to Nehemiah 13:5 at least some of the tithe had been stored in a large room; the largest combined storage room in the temple complex was no larger than 20 feet by 20’ feet (1 Kings 6:6). (3) There were 24 courses of Levites and priests which only served in the temple a week at a time (twice a year). Thus 23 of 24 courses, all women and all men under 20 stayed in the Levitical cities. That means about 2% of Levites and priests served in the temple at any normal week (2 Chron 31:2, 15). Therefore, it makes no sense whatsoever to store 100% of the tithe in the temple if 98% of its users were elsewhere and Malachi 3:10 is very confusing indeed. Also see 1 Chron 23-26; see also 28:13, 21; 2 Chron 8:14; 23:8; 31:2, 15-19; 35:4, 5, 10; Ezra 6:18; Neh 11:19, 30; 12:24; 13:9, 10; Luke 1:5.  
However, ,if  “you” in Malachi 3:10 only refers to the dishonest priests from 1:6-14; 2:1-10, 13-17; 3-1-5 and Nehemiah 13:5-10, then the text makes sense. (1) The general population brings their Levitical tithes to the Levitical cities where it is needed (Neh 10:37b). (2) The Levites and priests together receive the tithes in the Levitical cities (Neh 10:38). (3) Levites bring what is needed for a week to the temple storeroom (tithes and offerings) (Neh. 10:39). Levites are assisted by the population which brings their firstfruits-offerings (Neh. 10:35-37a, 39). Nehemiah 10:35-39 is the key to understanding Malachi 3:10. (See Joshua 20-21 and Numbers 35 for the Levitical cities.)

19. THE TEMPLE STOREROOM: It is wrong to compare the temple storeroom to the church. (1) The church (assembly of believers) is never called a “storehouse” or “building” in God’s Word; there is no precedent. (2) The temple was not a “storehouse” for the tithes of the nation; the great tithes were brought to the Levitical cities where those who needed them for food lived (Neh 10:37b-38). (3) The largest room in the temple was about 10 feet by 20 feet (1 Kings 6:6). Doubling that room as suggested in Nehemiah 13:5 would still make it too small to hold the tithe of the nation as King Hezekiah discovered in 2ndChronicles 31:9. (4) 1st Corinthians 16:2 does not teach storehouse-tithing. a) it concerns freewill offerings for famine relief and not support of gospel workers (16:1). b) the text probably refers to setting aside food at home and c) there were no legal church buildings for almost 300 years after Calvary.

20. Matthew 23:23: The post-Calvary New Covenant does not teach tithing. It did not begin at the birth of Jesus, but at his death (Gal. 3:19, 24, 25; 4:4, 5). Tithing is not taught to the church after the cross! When Jesus discussed tithing in Matthew 23:23, “you” referred to “teachers of the Law,” “you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites” who had made the Law a burden. As a faithful (and sinless) Jew, Jesus endorsed and supported the entire Old Covenant law until the cross. (Note “matters of the law” in 23:23). It would have been SIN to teach otherwise. The context was before Calvary.
In Matthew 23:2 and 3 (the context of 23:23) Jesus told his Jewish followers to obey the scribes and Pharisees "because they sit in Moses’ seat." Yet He did not (and could not) command Gentiles whom He healed to present themselves to the priests and obey the Law of Moses (compare Matt 5:23-24 and 8:4). If pastors literally obeyed Matthew 23:23, they would literally command Christians to tithe from garden herbs as Jesus commanded. 
There is not a single New Testament Bible text which teaches tithing after the cross! Acts 2:42-47 and 4:32-35 are not examples of tithing to support church leaders. According to 2:46 the Jewish Christians continued to worship in the Temple. And according to 2:44 and 4:33, 34 church leaders shared what they received equally with all church members. (This is not done today). 
Finally Acts 21:20-25 proves that Jewish Christians were still zealously observing all of the Mosaic Law 30 years later –and that must include tithing—otherwise they would not have been allowed inside the Temple to worship. Therefore, any tithes collected by the early Jewish Christians were given to the Temple system and not to support the church

Bror u either did copy and paste or u've been on ur keyboard since midnight.
Damn!!!!

Dindondin:
Your brain is just stingy. How many less privileged v you helped?
You, Freeze n others are agents of talk is cheap!
If not for tithe & offerings, you d still be uneducated. Go & check the history of the early missionary schools in Nigeria.

And ur brain is a heavily constructed drunk yard.

How how many churches have u paid tithe to

And the early missionary 3 in 1 tricks comprise of Hospitals/Church/schools was just an enslaving tool to enslave ,torment, Slaughter, confuse Niger area.



""If not for tithe & offerings, you d still be uneducated""

U obviously do not know that education n schooling aren't the same thing.

U have a zero ability to understand anything meaningful. U are a very idiotic, senseless, useless child, What is education Ur very stupid. The whites envied our education system n tricked Africans to follow their own which has obviously destroyed our society..
The white men came here for a singular reason to loot our resources till thy kingdom come. Common go n read..

salvation101:
Here is the thread where the convener of free the sheeple movement threw up a challenge to all his followers https://www.nairaland.com/4215954/tithe-against-poverty-challenge-daddy
The challenge is simply to use the money they would av used for tithing in their church to help the less privileged and poor around them... To my utmost surprise, on checking the thread wch is almost a week old, all i could see there was arguments as usual. I was expecting to see pics of ppl in different Idp camps and homes of tge less privilege like dey av been advising the pastors...

Is it that freeze doesn't av faithful followership?
Is it that the so called tithe dis ppl are talking about cant even buy Agege bread?
Is it dat dis ppl are just stingy??
Am curious, wanna know

My issue hasn't ever been on whether to pay tithes or not even tho i believe it shud be voluntarily or genuinely lead bt the way the tithe is been spent. Im not impressed with how Pentecostal church spend their money while not paying tax. Many abuse the honor and privilege and other spend it on ridiculous things even their gfs, sm build skols bt don't subsidize the rates for the common man to attend and start quoting laws of economics wen we are talking about a church of God establishment to help the society they live in. Wat does the church really give back?

spartan117:
The fact is that most ministries are funded just by a few Kingdom minded individuals who have sworn to advance God's Kingdom on earth with their finances, and God keeps pruning them and blessing these few individuals. 80% of ministry work is funded by less than 2% of Christian population I say this because I've been in a privileged position in my church and I know where the money that funds our programs actually come from, and i tell you it's not from #10 and #20 tithes and offerings

until those billionaires I see around and most especially in churches come to talk against Tithing. I will tithe from as little as my 10 Naira. I wonder why someone will take an employee seriously when it comes to financial dealings. He is not even advocating charity the right way. Charity does no equal giving against poverty. He knows nothing about financial principles.

salvation101:
Here is the thread where the convener of free the sheeple movement threw up a challenge to all his followers https://www.nairaland.com/4215954/tithe-against-poverty-challenge-daddy
The challenge is simply to use the money they would av used for tithing in their church to help the less privileged and poor around them... To my utmost surprise, on checking the thread wch is almost a week old, all i could see there was arguments as usual. I was expecting to see pics of ppl in different Idp camps and homes of tge less privilege like dey av been advising the pastors...

Most nigerians are unbelievable.....Just on the TAP thread,some one was criticizing a celebrity for showing off how he is helping some one with #300k,Now U are asking for proof to know if people gave their monies to the needy!

salvation101:

Is it that freeze doesn't av faithful followership?

Did freeze tell you he needed followers or wanted one?
Did freeze expose the tithe sham just to be popular?
Do U need freeze to show U scriptures that ur tithe is meant for the poor and needy?

salvation101:

Is it that the so called tithe dis ppl are talking about cant even buy Agege bread?
Is it dat dis ppl are just stingy??

Making such hasty and unfounded assumptions clearly exposes the kind of faulty mindset that U are harboring!
I guess some millionaires who give hefty funds to charity every year are stingy simply because its not taken to the church abi?
Ur mindset is wrong!

erico2k2:

Thats over hyped, I know u r in Uniport comp science.Stp telling people U make 300 to 400k, it dnt make sense,Face your Education and get a good degree/Grade

Ok sir. But i'm not in comp science sir. But what is the good grade for? Coz one of my uncle was also telling me this he came out with 2.1 and he became a lecturer and was later sacked(cos his boss was removed) now he's seling palm wine and my step brother also graduated with a 2.1 and he's working in peace mass, Just imagine. All the things i'm seeing around is not encouraging now so i think working alone is the best

jaxxy:


My issue hasn't ever been on whether to pay tithes or not even tho i believe it shud be voluntarily or genuinely lead bt the way the tithe is been spent. Im not impressed with how Pentecostal church spend their money while not paying tax. Many abuse the honor and privilege and other spend it on ridiculous things even their gfs, sm build skols bt don't subsidize the rates for the common man to attend and start quoting laws of economics wen we are talking about a church of God establishment to help the society they live in. Wat does the church really give back?

how do they spend? Have you audited an account before? Why not judging by what you see? Why not discern by the spirit. Because of see private jet. Those pastors have their person businesses. The richest amongst them is not even worth 200 million dollars. That amount is inclusive of church properties which does not even belong to them. The Anglican church, baptist and all once started by just one person. Today, do we say it belongs to one. The church is the people not an individual or person. Education is not free. That's the mistake our government is making. The fees are subsidized enough

Abrahams tithe was a custom of the land over practiced back then. If you go on war and you are successful. You give a percentage commonly 10% of your spoil of wars to the king/ priest of the land or area where you live. It is a cultural practise of the land . Pagans do it too and That is a fact. Abraham did not tithe out is abundant profits as he was already blessed before giving a tithe of the spoils of war!
God order by law through Moses that ONLY 1% of the spoils of war should be given to the levites/ priest. 
Tithing spoils of war and tithing your profit are two different things. 
Abraham never tithe out of is personal profit. 
Jesus, James, Paul, Peter never taught tithing or collected tithe. They mat have made reference to it while making or discussing another issue but no teaching on tithing Fact!
The support Paul was all about is helping travelling ministers not resident and stationary ones. Help them via donations for bare necessities not luxury!! And not via tithe. Only bare necessities so they are not impoverish . Paul said he would rather die than demand for provision from the church( bare necessities mind you). We are not like those that pedal the gospel of our lord. Are you a hiring doing it for return or you are a bride that does the work free out of a love for the bridegroom!!
This have been twisted today into tithe and exploitation which our saviour never commanded. Placing heavy burden on people like the Pharisee twisting the word of God saying if you make a vow to give to God you can fulfil that vow first even if it means neglecting your parents. So you nullify the word of God to sooth our own teachings. And Jesus said you do many other things like that! Jesus, Paul, James, Peter taught about given & donation, that has all been ignored by today's church, bringing back what was established in church in 777AD by other of roman emperor, which they have long abandoned in catholic and uk churches due to revolt/ riot by the population. Do you know the history? Do you research.
Lastly tithe as never used fortemple/ church maintenance as it is food and it is an ABOMINATION to use tithe for ANYTHING OTHER THAN FEED THE LEVITES AND LESS PREVILEGED.

spartan117:
The fact is that most ministries are funded just by a few Kingdom minded individuals who have sworn to advance God's Kingdom on earth with their finances, and God keeps pruning them and blessing these few individuals. 80% of ministry work is funded by less than 2% of Christian population I say this because I've been in a privileged position in my church and I know where the money that funds our programs actually come from, and i tell you it's not from #10 and #20 tithes and offerings

martineverest:
Oga, the most stingy and self-centered set of Nigerians are tithers... Most of them won't even bother of give tithes if u remove blessings from tithes.

Most of dem walk pass the needy/wretched/homeless /orphans with tithes in their hands.... Simply because these ppl in need doesn't have anything to offer in return.

Most of dem see tithing as MMM:give one-tenth and expect 100folds in return

If Nigerian pastors democratize tithing like what Jesus Christian preached about in Matthew 25,most of the homelessness and needy people will reduce drastically

U are absolutely right...Most believers pay their tithe due to the promise of showers of blessings and the curses attached to them....
Take off the so called curses or 100% benefits of showers of wealth and U will see most tithers holding unto their money as if their lives depend on it!
I know of a colleague whose brother was seriously sick and needed a deposit of 20k from his brother,my colleague, to commence immediate medication....my colleague instead gave that amount with an additional 30k to the church as his tithe....if not for a good Samaritan who gave my colleague's brother that amount of money,his brother's obituary poster would have been all over their villa!

salvation101:
Here is the thread where the convener of free the sheeple movement threw up a challenge to all his followers https://www.nairaland.com/4215954/tithe-against-poverty-challenge-daddy
The challenge is simply to use the money they would av used for tithing in their church to help the less privileged and poor around them... To my utmost surprise, on checking the thread wch is almost a week old, all i could see there was arguments as usual. I was expecting to see pics of ppl in different Idp camps and homes of tge less privilege like dey av been advising the pastors...

Is it that freeze doesn't av faithful followership?
Is it that the so called tithe dis ppl are talking about cant even buy Agege bread?
Is it dat dis ppl are just stingy??
Am curious, wanna know

baba, if you want to see stingy people, go to Europe.
Europeans are the most stingy set of people in the world especially the British. But guess what? They're wealthy and more advanced..they don't clamour for tithes like we Nigerians.

prettyjo:
the FACt is that I am tired of hearing this tithe of a thing

abeg help me tell them oooo...... If it works for you practice it, if don't believe in it don't practice and if you feel you can pay it yourself to the less privilege, do that and let Nigerians hear word. The most important thing is giving and all I know is that a giver never lacks.