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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 11:44am On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts:and it was also awolowo that told ironsi to destroy the progress we had under regional government and create the current unitary wahala we are having. awolowo is also the reason Jonathan failed awolowo is also the reason our state governors are currently doing nothing 29 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by totit: 11:46am On Dec 28, 2017 |
I dey come. Make I siddon for one corner dey wassssh 1st. 5 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by osazeeblue01: 11:46am On Dec 28, 2017 |
No meaning. |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 11:50am On Dec 28, 2017 |
Jaideyone:Thank God you now believe Anioma is Igbo. Nzeogwu led the Coup followed by Adewale. There were many other Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa/Fulani, Tiv, Esan, Ijaw that participated in that coup. That coup had national coloration but western media pegged it on Ndi Igbo out of jealousy. Awolowo was planning a coup when we was arrested. Those boys finished the coup to reinstate him but Ironsi refused. Ask Adewale why Igbo leaders were spared? 2 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 11:54am On Dec 28, 2017 |
Jaideyone:He told Ironsi and all our politicians that when he planned the first coup. He destroyed this nation by sowing seed of coup. Why are you always mentioning Jonathan? Was Obasanjo not President before him? 2 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Stingman: 11:57am On Dec 28, 2017 |
BeautifulSE: Shut that your ewedu mouth 5 Likes
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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 11:57am On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts:here we go again. you are still not accepting responsibility. now you are blaming the western media. you are still unable to tell me how awolowo that was in prison since 1963 plotted a 1966 coup from prison using nzeogwu his ibo slave Awo wasn't even a military man. Awo was jailed because the north favoured akintola over him. he wasn't plotting any coup!!! more than 70% of the people that participated in the coup are IBO. other regions lost their leaders except the south east. your people went on to mock the northers after their premier was killed in the coup. we should start accepting responsibility for our mistakes as a people. so the south east doesn't have media? 35 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:00pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts:obasanjo passed!!! obj met our foreign reserve at $4b and left if at over $50b. left ECA OBJ negotiated all our debts away and created millions of jobs!!! Obj is far from perfect but I'll give him a 40/100. I can't even give Jonathan a 30/100. Jonathan only did Benin ore and fuoye in the south west. what did Jonathan do in the east? 23 Likes 1 Share |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Dalek(m): 12:10pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
ehn ehn, you mean the igbos have been at the corridor of power more?? by this the real enemies of igbos are igbos themselves, marginalizing deresef. but would rather blame unborn children than accept dere collective failures. 18 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:11pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Jaideyone:Oga, Awolowo was plotting Coup with Ghanaian authorities to overthrow the Government of Azikiwe/Balewa when he was arrested. He was prison when 1965 coup was carried out. The purpose was to install him as Prime Minister which Ironsi refused. Nzeogwu led the coup and Adewale a Yoruba man was second in command. Ojukwu and Ironsi an Igbo men fought the coup. If that coup was an Igbo coup why was Ojukwu and Ironsi the two highest ranking Igbo officers not informed. Awo destroyed this country. I didn't said it the North did. https://www.naija.ng/697044-must-read-tanko-yakassai-reveals-battle-awolowo-akintola-led-1966-coup.html www.dailypost.ng/2017/06/26/awolowo-started-nigerias-political-problem-paul-unongo/ https://www.proshareng.com/news/Nigeria-Economy/Yorubas-Are-The-Problem-With-Nigeria-Proshare/27034 Don't forget what Balaraba Musa said," the Yoruba political leadership, as mentioned has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests". 2 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:17pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Jaideyone:Jonathan left us with the highest economy. When your APC governors were busy going to court to share ECA, where were you? How much was in the ECA before it was shared? And how many did Jonathan leave? 2 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:18pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Dalek:The enemies of Yorubas are who? 2 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Lot13(m): 12:22pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Why then do you blame others for the under development and marginalization of your region.Intergrity and honesty are values that are lacking in every Iboman. 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:27pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts:you see you are still pointing fingers you don't even know there was no coup in 1965 but you want to argue. the first coup was January 1966 and the second was July 1966. so how did an awolowo that was in prison since 1963 become responsible for a coup by the military when he wasn't even a military man? it's foolish to just swallow people's opinion without question. if I start bringing out what the same northers (including balarabe musa) have said about ibos I hope you will accept them as the truth? now more on why Awo was jailed. Awo was in the opposition with akintola initially with Awo having more influence in Action Group even though akintola was the premiere. Awo made a move to remove akintola as the premier. the party voted for the removal of akintola but violence broke out and state of emergency was declared in the southwest. akintola was reinstated without even after the votes already removed him as premier (even azikiwe protested this move which was obviously backed by the north). Akintola's alliance with the North is the reason Awo was jailed to silence him prior to 1964 election. Awo never planned any coup. Akintola as the premier of the southwest pioneered rigging in Nigeria!!! FFK's father (Remi Fani Kayode) said it out loud that they don't need votes to win!!! violence broke out again when the rigged results were announced (note that Awo was in prison through out the election and the violence that followed even up till the 1966 coup and counter coup). so tell me how was Awo planning a coup in 1963? how did he execute another one in 1966 from prison when he's not even a military man? stop swallowing lies!!! 32 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:31pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Lot13:Is your region more developed than the East? If Awolowo didn't introduce coup into this country, shamelessly plotting with tiny Ghana to destroy our young democracy we wouldn't be in this mess. This is why even till now, Northerners are yet to forgive the West. Ask Sanusi, ask Yakassi, ask Unogo e.t.c Only fools think otherwise. The Greedy old man that plotted coup 2 times, against Balewa and Babangida is the cause of our problem. On both occasions, a Yoruba man (Akintola and Jakande) betrayed him. |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:37pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts:lol APC governors also depleted the foreign reserve from almost 50b to 28b even when crude oil was selling for a record 110 dollars per barrel!!!! even a goat will grow the economy with so much forex at his disposal. when the price of crude fell to $70 per barrel iweala started telling Nigerians to brace up for hardship https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/171145-brace-tougher-times-ahead-okonjo-iweala-tells-nigerians.html the price of crude fell further to less than 40$ pee barrel under buhari and the recession couldn't have been avoided with so little coming in from crude oil and militants blowing up pipelines!!! now with oil selling at between 90-110 dollars per barel between 2010-2014 pls tell me the infrastructure Jonathan left on ground? apart from the bogus largest economy in Africa when our reserves were dropping!!!! note that when oil was selling at a very Hugh price Saudi Arabia grew their foreign reserve to over 500 billion dollars. see it here https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-28/saudi-net-foreign-assets-dip-below-500-billion-in-april how come Jonathan was still spending our foreign reserve anyhow? how come he couldn't build roads and reserve was still falling? I'm patiently waiting for your reply 32 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by ImperialYoruba: 12:39pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts: Olodo! You are a political illiterate! The Pre Republic you listed came about because it was a battle between Ibo and Hausa for National Office. Yoruba was not interested or competing to occupy National Office because the West was already a successful self-ruling region since 1957. We had recorded far more advancement in West ahead of the nation, so why compete for a platform that is less politically situated than the one we are in charge of? In terms of Republics, there has only been one till date and that was the Republic of 1963. We have not had another so you and the journalists in the habit of naming multiple republics need to get your head in proper orientation. What we have had are not successive republics but successive civilian era or periods or governments. Take that correction. Even in the Republic of 1963 West was still a self ruling government and with advancements that surpassed any other region. In terms of political strength and successes compare what each region had accomplished in terms of self government and development on ground. MidWest was carved out of West in 1963 and did not stop West from its successes neither did it halt our growth and established goodwill in foreign circles. By 1965 it was evident advancement and growth in West cannot be stopped by the center or any of the regions. Ibo had failed in its own Eastern Region and had no known programms for social upliftment. Many Ibo had realized to survive they need to relocate to West. Yoruba competition for political power was internal, the struggle to acquire party loyalty and be in charhe of the most politically and socially advanced society in West Africa, the competition for headship of Nigeria was less fervent or desired. If we had entered into a fierce competition in the center as we did in the region those positions you listed pre and first Republic would not have Ibo leading the land. 1966 coup was therefore a grand plan by the lagging Eastern region to slow down the West pace and equally kill heated competition by North to oust Ibo from headship. Ironsi was therefore a product of a criminal violation of the Republican Constitution of 1963. Ribadu was next in power to enter office after Balewa. Ibo wanted all the offices to themselves, a monopoly of government! This why Nwafor became handed power to Ibo military, because there were no Ibo in the four succession ranks of power to assume the Prime Ministership. It was Ribadu, Shagari and another Northerner...cant remember name. The focus of Yoruba away from the center...and primarily in our own region produced a balance of struggle at the center between Hausa and Ibo. The coup changed everything. It killed political independence in West and devastated our instituted programs for society. When you hear Yoruba agitate for a return to 1963 constitution or previous...we know why it is, because we know what we can do away from the center, we have proven it over and over. In fact we are proving it now, inspite of a centralized and highly diluted chaos in the center. We still remain the number 1 region in the country. Thr number 2 region will go to North. East did not know how to self rule...and till today you are still deficient in political knowledge or asset. Look, make I just stop and leave you to your delusion and fake assessments of political leadership. You dont know what political power is....if you did you would not write rubbish. You vonfuse political office for power. Power resides with kingmakers, which Ibo has never been. 39 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:40pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts:I'm patiently waiting for you to tell us how Awo plotted coup in 1963 and did so again in 1965. you keep making allegations with nothing to back it up BTW the south east is so developed and your people are all running down to Ogun, Oyo, ondo, osun to look for greener pastures ( I left Lagos out for obvious reasons). your region is more developed than the west so what's the motivation behind of the cries of neglect and marginalisation by ipob? 26 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:44pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Jaideyone:You are talking as if Jonathan took over from Obj. Jonathan didn't inherit any 50 billion USD in foreign reserve. The Nation was fighting a conventional war. Dollar is used to prosecute war. Obj didn't. Jonathan built more roads than Buhari. Buhari is merely completing them. Jonathan built 6 new Universities. Buhari did none. If not for the solid economy Jonathan left us with, Buhari recession would have plunged us to the pit. |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:47pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
ImperialYoruba:I will not respond to the above trash since you don't know what a Republic in the context of Nigerian politics means. 1 Like |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:50pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts:buhahahahahaha see lie o read that post again. OBJ left over $50b with crude price of less than $40 per barrel, Yaradua defended our econony with part of it during the global economic crisis and Jonathan inherited at leat $40b. how come our reserve was falling when that of other oil producing countries were rising between 2010-2014? and please mention the road Jonathan constructed I'm waiting cc southeast facts I'm waiting for your reply on this 13 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Alariiwo: 12:53pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Yorubas were in opposition in the First republic when the Igbos were deeply in love with the Hausa/Fulani domination. Zik and co. were taking up crumbs the Northerners threw to them like dogs. Yorubas on the other hand were busy fighting for equity and fairness, asking for restructuring but the Easterners weren't interested in all that. So far they got crumbs from North. That is the reason why Yorubas don't take you saboteurs seriously. And why there will never be unity in the South. We don't want anything to do with backstabbers who cry only when things are not going in their favour. 18 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:55pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts:uncle solid economy that okonjo iweala started telling is us to brace up for hardship when oil was selling at 70? could the hardship be avoided when oil was selling for less than 40 under buhari with no foreign reserve to defend the economy? see what okonjo iweala said when oil was selling for 70 dollars o https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/business/18233-oil-price-slump-nigerians-brace-for-tougher-times-ahead please read the link before you reply strong economy without corresponding infrastructural development. is that how China, Singapore, Malaysia and Japan developed? strong economy because we were spending so much money (GDP) while our savings as a country (foreign reserve) was falling 16 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:56pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Alariiwo:GBAM!!!! 12 Likes |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Alariiwo: 1:02pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Gotze1: Most of them are still pained that Zik didn't emerge Premier in the West.. Their plans of enslaving the Yorubas failed. Now it's SS people they want to enslave. I just don't understand why igbos keep eyeing South West. Do they plan to kill all the Yorubas and take over the lands or what? When people still go to war. We will see how long they survive attempting that. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Alariiwo: 1:07pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Jaideyone: Igbos started misbehaving when Tinubu became governor.. The foolish man was busy forming detribalized cos of his presidential ambition. Yorubas have been doing politics in Lagos since the time of Jakande and no igbo dared to make noise. Thank God for Ambode who is correcting all that nonsense now. Lagos is now fully an Odua state and no non-indigene can get elected into any post across SW. That is the new law on ground now. Any bastard that wants to become anything should go back to his village. Simple as a, b, c 21 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 1:07pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Jaideyone:If you believe Ogun, Osun, Ekiti, Ondo and Oyo are more developed than SE, then you must be ingesting too much made in Nigeria statistics. Pick any developmental index let deal with it once. Yes, he was conspiring with tiny Ghana to overthrow the Government of Balewa when he was arrested. Few years after his arrest, a coup led by Nzeogwu and Adewale with the purpose of installing him as PM succeeded in truncating our democracy, but the coup was halted by Ironsi and Ojukwu. The 2 highest ranking Igbo officers. The surviving govt handed power over to Ironsi, who rewarded Ojukwu for helping him stop the calamity with Governor. In the 1990s, many years after Ojukwu released him, he shameless planned another coup against IBB but was betrayed by Jakande. Fearing the imminent Military Tribunal be committed suicide by drinking poison. Go and research your political history. |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 1:09pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Alariiwo:You people can never make complete statement without mention SS. |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 1:12pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts:lol ogun, Oyo, osun and ondo are not more developed yet your people are all over here in search of greener pastures? OK. let's assume I accept your claim that Awo was plotting a coup in 1963. how did the coup he plotted in 1963 now translate to 1966 coup? especially when Ghana wasn't involved in 1966 coup? oya tell us the story 19 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by ImperialYoruba: 1:15pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
SouthEastFacts: I didnt think you would reply since there is no material fact to displace what I submitted and which history and media records can back up. We just dey look una dey smile. Point to any part of West Africa or sub Saharan that has ever been politically successful and institutionally evolved in thr hands of its indigenes as Yorubaland has been in the hands and minds and spirit of Yoruba politicians. There is NONE! We lead, others follow. If we accomplished this much in a stunted and anti-progressive centrally managed republic, imagine where we would be if we are self ruling and independently self determining. Just imagine.... 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Alariiwo: 1:15pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Jaideyone: Igbos have always played second fiddle to the North since independence. All their leaders always take up vice posts to them without thinking of future. When Yorubas were asking for restructuring, they told Yorubas to keep shut. that nothing like restructuring. Now that tables have turned, they are now crying restructuring and we are also telling them to keep shut. They will stay in political wilderness for a long time and will never smell power in Nigeria again. 7 Likes |
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