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Yes i saw status, but you talked about 'worship of the status of the image'. That's a tad blind to me, and i'm like maybe you meant to say statue(like some christains worship statues).

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But Jesus is worthy of our worship.

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He never rejected worship while here on earth, nor does He reject our worship now.

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He is God, unlike angels or men like Paul and Peter who rejected worship, and are not to be worshipped.

Matthew 2:2
"Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We saw his star as it rose, and we have come to WORSHIP him."And Jesus denied being the king of the Jews. He never at one time say "wordhip me". Rather he worshipped "Eloi". It is not unusual for a people to mislabel an individual. But if the individual knows that he was being mislabeled, he will rebuff the people from continuing their silliness. Let me give you an example on Nairaland; Some young women, serious about it or not say Seun the admin is their boyfriend, husband, etc. If Seun had said yes to it, then who can say that she or they and Seun are not in relationships. Yet they may not, so by Seun ignoring such a proposal, it at least does not validate such idea that is put forward by the women for fun or hope. This is similar to Jesus saying am no King and the observance of worship of Eloi.

The star they saw was not an ordinary star. The star was placed by God to lead the wise men to the Messiah in Bethlehem. That is why the bible said King Herod was deeply disturbed. Why? He knew of the prophecy that a ruler will come out of Bethlehem, in the land of Judah who will become the Shepherd of God's people, Israel.

Ridiculous opinion about the star. But did Jesus lead the Israelites? Did he rule the Israelites? No is the answer for each, so the prophecy was not fulfilled on Jesus. No wonder they Jews are still looking for somebody else. If Jesus was their man they are looking for, he already gone and it proves that the Bible was tampered with because the prophecy does not fit Jesus and Jesus did not fulfill it.

Matthew 2:10-11
Comfirms that the star led the wise men to the house where Jesus was born. What did they do when they set their eyes on the King of Kings and Lord of lords? They bowed down and worshipped him. Then they opened their treasure chest and gave him gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. Gifts fitting for a KING as confirmed in Psalms 72:9-11

The wise men could not be more than Jewish Rabbis. Or were they from a different planet or people other than the Jews? If they worshipped him, will that not be against the 10 commandments? The NT is full of lies if this Matthew 2, verses 10 and 11 are considered in proper Jewish light. How many lords are there that Jesus was the lord of lords, except the Bible's new Testaments are just making it up? So Solomon, or David received less than Gold, Frankincense and Myrrh, though they are actually kings, unlike the king without a throne, you want us to believe he is a king? Where was his throne then? And where did he reign from, when Herod was the King?

Matthew 15:24-25
Then Jesus said to the woman,"I was sent only to help God's lost sheep- the people of Israel."
But she came and worshipped him, pleading again, "Lord, help me!"

I will not even correct anything here, but did anyone notice that finally Jesus said he was sent? People who are sent are messengers or servants or slaves, but never an equal. They always have a message that they were sent upon. It means therefore Jesus was a slave of the One Who sent him, with a Message. Whats the text of the message, except that it will be original Gospel, if we can find anything about it in the NT. Is there any way that the woman can worship Jesus and he accepts it? If he did why called himself in relationship to God; Jesus Your sevant who You sent? Is Jesus God, or Servant of God? When the Christians open their behind so wide, we must kick it hard for them.

In Matthew 15: 28 Jesus told the woman that because of her faith in him, her requested is granted. And instantly her daughter was healed.

How instant, especially when the sick girl was not there at the place of begging the servant of God, who you now call god? Many prophets healed people by power of God. Thats why its miracle. Does miracle qualifies a godly man to be God? What about Moses who saved the Israelites from peril, at least from drowning, since the Egyptians drowned after that?

Matthew 28:8-9
The women ran quickly from the tomb. They were very frightened but also filled with great joy, and they rushed to give the disciples the angel's message. And as they went, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they ran to him, grasped his feet, and worshipped him.

They worshipped the "servant" of God, instead of the God Who sent Jesus? Thats Idolatry. And am sure Jesus did no accept such a worship. He must have disallowed it, otherwise he knows he will become their idol.

The disciples knew that Jesus was killed, dead and buried. They even knew where he was buried. So imagine seeing him again, raised from the dead, alive and kicking. This occurrence is what transformed the disciples (especially Peter) from timid disciple to a bold and courageous one. The books of Acts testifies to this fact.

Is a dugout/cave now a dug up earth that is a grave? Did anyone cover the dead body with earth from the grave they now put him? Of course there was no grave and they didnt cover him with any earth. At best, put him in a cave, and watched over him, so much so that they knew they can now prepare oil to rub his wounds, and aching body from the beating and the whole ordeal. Why didnt bury him, instead try to heal him? They knew he was alive, not dead, because jews dont rub oil on their dead. They bury it as soon as possible.

Need more scriptural proof? I have got more in abundance for you @Jewitemi
The above is baby milk. If you want raw or cooked meat, seek and u shall find.

If Jesus accepted worship, when he said he was the servant that God sent, wouldnt those who worshipped him be worshipping God's servant sent to them, instead of the God Who sent him to them? Is this the way you honor God, except that you are a disbeliever? I guess your baby milk is sour, spoiled, bad milk that can poison the drinker. You need to purge your stomach if you are still drinking it, because it will lead you to a bad end.

yommyuk:

Matthew 2:2
"Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We saw his star as it rose, and we have come to WORSHIP him."

The star they saw was not an ordinary star. The star was placed by God to lead the wise men to the Messiah in Bethlehem. That is why the bible said King Herod was deeply disturbed. Why? He knew of the prophecy that a ruler will come out of Bethlehem, in the land of Judah who will become the Shepherd of God's people, Israel.

Matthew 2:10-11
Comfirms that the star led the wise men to the house where Jesus was born. What did they do when they set their eyes on the King of Kings and Lord of lords? They bowed down and worshipped him. Then they opened their treasure chest and gave him gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. Gifts fitting for a KING as confirmed in Psalms 72:9-11

Matthew 15:24-25
Then Jesus said to the woman,"I was sent only to help God's lost sheep- the people of Israel."
But she came and worshipped him, pleading again, "Lord, help me!"

In Matthew 15: 28 Jesus told the woman that because of her faith in him, her requested is granted. And instantly her daughter was healed.

Matthew 28:8-9
The women ran quickly from the tomb. They were very frightened but also filled with great joy, and they rushed to give the disciples the angel's message. And as they went, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they ran to him, grasped his feet, and worshipped him.

The disciples knew that Jesus was killed, dead and buried. They even knew where he was buried. So imagine seeing him again, raised from the dead, alive and kicking. This occurrence is what transformed the disciples (especially Peter) from timid disciple to a bold and courageous one. The books of Acts testifies to this fact.

Need more scriptural proof? I have got more in abundance for you @Jewitemi
The above is baby milk. If you want raw or cooked meat, seek and u shall find.

God bless your soul

I dont really know your point. but if your reference to umblical cord etc was to make Jesus appear a sinner, Youre making a mistake. Jesus did not have sin in his blood. A child gets his blood from the father and not the mother biologically , so Mary is disconnected from being the source of Jesus blood. You can trace parterniny of a child through the blood for this reason. But since Joseph was not involved in the conception of christ. He also is disconnected from Jesus blood.

So where did the blood of Jesus come from?. It came from thesame source of his life. "The Word" through the holyghost. Mary and Joseph's blood was infested with the original sin of Adam. If the blood of Jesus had come from either of them, Jesus would not have been qualified to save us because his blood would have been un acceptable for sacrifice. And that would also have meant that any other person could have died for us. You trmple upon the blood of Jesus and its purity to equate his blood to the fallen man's blood and to labell Christ a sinner.

A child gets his blood from the father and not the mother biologically , so Mary is disconnected from being the source of Jesus blood

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If you refuse to worship him, then one day you'll have some regrets.

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Note also that it is written: At the name of Jesus every knee shall bow.

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Finally, I hear you're a wannabe atheist (whether it is true or not I don't know unless you tell me), that's very good.

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I don't know the extent of your knowledge but if I engage you in that regard, it might be the most interesting and life-changing chat you ever had.

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When I was younger I also tried being one and read hundreds of books. Then I read philosophy(major) and psychology(minor) in the University and chaos was complete.

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Look to Jesus for the salvation of your soul or better still, read the Bible side by side most of those books that interest you, only read them all with an open mind.

Holla!

I love NL. Why? Because it is a place where I can converse with different kind of people that I would not normally have the opportunity to in real life scenario . Kudos to Seun.

Asamalalekun @ nopuqeater.
I made a conscious decision to quickly do some background check on you in order to know who I am really going to deal with. My findings revealed that I will be dealing with a Muslim. A hardcore one! One who does not recognise my Lord Jesus Christ as the Messiah. One who does not acknowledge that Jesus is the son of God. One who does not believe that Jesus is the Saviour of the world. One who is thinks Jesus and Moses are on the same level. One who totally disagrees with the core fundamentals of my faith?
How do I communicate with such a person? Luke 12:11-12 said I should not worry about how to defend myself or what to say, for the Holy Spirit will teach me what needs to be said.

The Word of God said in 1 Tim 1:6-7 “But some people have missed this whole point. They have turned away from these things and spend their time in meaningless discussions. They want to be known as teachers of the Law of Moses, but they do not know what they are talking about, even though they speak so confidently”

My decision is to apply 1 Timothy 6:20-21 which states:” Timothy (Yommyuk), guard what God has entrusted to you. Avoid godless, foolish discussions with those who oppose you with their so-called knowledge. Some people have wandered from the faith by following such foolishness”

Therefore I refuse to be drawn into foolish ramblings and I shun all foolish controversies and disputes you (@nopuqeater bring forth in Jesus Name.

God bless your Soul in Jesus Name

@Jenwitemi
The Bible says in Isaiah 9 vs 6: For unto us a Child is born, and unto us a Son is given,

and the government shall be upon his shoulders,

and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

If you refuse to worship him, then one day you'll have some regrets.
Note also that it is written: At the name of Jesus every knee shall bow.

Finally, I hear you're a wannabe atheist (whether it is true or not I don't know unless you tell me), that's very good. I don't know the extent of your knowledge but if I engage you in that regard, it might be the most interesting and life-changing chat you ever had. When I was younger I also tried being one and read hundreds of books. Then I read philosophy(major) and psychology(minor) in the University and chaos was complete.
Look to Jesus for the salvation of your soul or better still, read the Bible side by side most of those books that interest you, only read them all with an open mind.

Holla!

Jon.Bee:

Jenwitemi must earth's most foolish human being alive thinking he can cure y'all of your imported whiteman mumbo-jumbo. No be only original sin, what about counterfeited sin.

Bunch of brainwashed christian goons.

You fools are born with new-improved original sin, just as Jesus is a blue-eyed blondie and God's beard is snow-white.

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Jesus is all round omnipotent saviour. He can save you from anything. Primarily, He can save from Sin, He can save from Sickness, He can save from Satan, He can save from God's wrath/judgement against sinners, He can save you from Self, He can save from Society, He can save you from subtle sinners.

nopuqeater:

^^^ For the christians; they do inherit sin from others. te reason they are seeking somebody else to take the blame or punishment on their behalves.

For us in Islam, we do not inherit any sin. The sin we carry is committed by us, individually. The Mercy we seek is according to the individual. There is no collective sin and punishment for us. Especially something we were not even alive to partake in.