Empiree:
Allahumo Salli ala sayyidina Muhammadin wa ala Aliy wasalim.

The shortest

emekaRaj:
According to ibn kathir, If u want blessings or u want ur problems solve just send lots of salat to rasul (saw) and u will be blessed double fold in dis life and hereafter, insha Allah.

Salawat also increases ur status spiritually

Salamu aleikum

emekaRaj:
Do not use the name of past pious people or go to their grave to ask for help. Shaiytan is a very intelligent being. Let me tell u a story.

There is this Muslim pious man in South Africa a very pious man who died over 300 yrs ago. It was said dat d man performed great miracles b4 he died so he was very popular among the Muslims their.

Because of this, people use to go to his grave to ask him for help even after centuries that he past on. In fact till dis date they still do dat. Funnily whatever their problem is will be granted, but u and I knowhat d dead can't grant anything.

So to d main gist, sheikh abdelrauf heard this and visited the grave for jinn catching to knw wats Goin on their.

Story short d first jinn came and said salamu aleikum. Which means he a Muslim jinn, and he was asked Wat he is doing here. He said he is securing the grave.

Lemme put it in a conversation format.

Sheik: securing from who?

Muslim jinn: shayateen, they ar in d surroundings but they can't come here because of me.

Sheik: but why ar u securing d grave, wat do gain from it.

Jinn: because he was a pious man, and was performing miracle to help pple.

Sheik: How was he performing the miracle

The jinn said that he was using them to perform miracle. Sheikh ask, so it wasn't a real miracle, d jinn said yes, that they use to go and help anyone dat came to the pious man for help....

Sheik: but Wat I ask is why are u securin dis grave Wat is ur reward.

Jinn: because he use to accommodate us, and give us anything we want.

Sheikh: like Wat

Jinn: he recites for us lots of Quran.

So d sheikh said, but Wat u ar doing is not good, how can d Quran gives u power. Then he accepted that d man use to mix their name in it and gives them lots of animal sacrifice.

Sheik: what about the pple dat come to dis grave to ask for help.

Jinn: we will go an stay with them till their problem are solve

So d sheikh said, pple come to d grave an ask for help, u go and help them, d pple think it's d dead pious man that helped them. And then keep coming back for help. He ask d jinn, but u are a Muslim, isn't that shirk u ar making pple to commit ? He was quite. So they called his associates,
and ask them Wat is their part in all this.

They said they are the ones that give pple the problem so dat they will come to d grave for help.
D sheikh ask, so Wat did they take from this pple for helping them, they said they take their food, health, psych etc.

You see, thats how the jinns works, apart from the fact that they want to trick u to commit shirk, they can't help u for free too, they help u and take something from u too like ur health, psych etc.

So u See how they ran the business. They give u problems so u come to d grave for help, an then help u and give u another problem,so that u com bak again, it goes on in circles ( because d fact is jinns don't have d power to help anybody, Wat they do is they give u problem, of which they will be able to solve because it's their making) and while all this is going on they are taking ur health, psych, sleeping with ur daughters etc.
May Allah subuhana'wata'ala help us against shaiytan and its evil plot

Empiree:
you have problem. Maybe this 12 mins video would help you of the definition and essence

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2s&v=ie4YV0PTQ50

The word "Sufism" is not in the Quran but the descriptions are there. It is just like calling Allah by other names. So why are you nagging

So the Sufism existed in the time of nabi(saw). And sahaba were sufis.

Tlake:
Mr fundamentalist asalam aleikum warahmatulah wabaraka tuh,are you a pagan?... I think not ...
I want u to realise that we are all not perfect only d Almighty his... that is to Mr emakaraj his nt perfect neither is u or I.. I plead with u in the name of our rasul to pls help your other brothers on the thread...peace bro

iamgenius:
I already knew him before. Anyway, I listened to him to hear what he's up to again in his wrong sayings as usual.

I knew he'll say rubbish even before I watched the clip.

Why is ur Shaykh quoting weak ahaadeeth? Like the حديث فراسة، and he also said nubuwa comprises of 46 branches.

Note: We've got no problem with whatever you name yourself only, it's about what's in your Aqeedah too.

iamgenius:
Beg in the name of Allah only.

emekaRaj:


There is effective method of dawah to d jinns. It's called 'jinn catching' u can literally catch all the jinns in particular area and convert them to Muslims, and use a verse to command to fight for Allah against shayateen.

I will explain it later

basugar441:


This guy is so funny, who is feeding you all these lies. Give us evidence from the Qur'an or Sunnah on this your claim........May Allah grant me and you Hidayyah.

emekaRaj:


Do u live under a rock?

basugar441:

Sarcasm right.........

Fundamentalist:
I was thinking I was the only anti progressive on this section

I'm happy others are seeing garbage been typed in the name exorcism

Empiree:
I don't get what your problem. Shariah is standard by which a practice is judge. Not your whim. Help yourself.

http://ruqyatreatment.com/jinn-catching/

Fundamentalist:
I was thinking I was the only anti progressive on this section

I'm happy others are seeing garbage been typed in the name exorcism

Fundamentalist:


After all the English I was expecting a hadeeth to support your claims but you fell short .

How a mighty thinking

basugar441:


Trust me, i now have time for these people that are just so eager to invent lies in the deen. I have always been following the Islamic section ever since i knew it was active. I was very amused reading emekaraj's comment where he talked about jinn catching..... just sit down in one place and start concocting lies....

#iro_lasan

basugar441:


Trust me, i now have time for these people that are just so eager to invent lies in the deen. I have always been following the Islamic section ever since i knew it was active. I was very amused reading emekaraj's comment where he talked about jinn catching..... just sit down in one place and start concocting lies....

#iro_lasan

Empiree:
hummm, no. You are the one jumping to conclusion. Your were supposed to have answered his first question with evidence but you failed to do that. So why are you asking me for a prove now?. It seems you don't really understand what the opportunity is about.

basugar441:


Trust me, i now have time for these people that are just so eager to invent lies in the deen. I have always been following the Islamic section ever since i knew it was active. I was very amused reading emekaraj's comment where he talked about jinn catching..... just sit down in one place and start concocting lies....

#iro_lasan

Fundamentalist:


Opportunity in liaising with jinns

Is that allowed in Islam

Fundamentalist:


They believe in hidden knowledge

As for empi.ree that guy is something else his second name is baid'ah . After alb.aqir , I haven't seen a strong innovator like him

Empiree:
why are you calling him?. Looking for trouble?. You love derailing, isn't?

iamgenius:
Shebi he's your brother in Innovation.

emekaRaj:


Pls tell me what empi.ree has invented.

Fundamentalist:


They believe in hidden knowledge

As for empiree that guy is something else his second name is baid'ah . After albaqir , I haven't seen a strong innovator like him

Fundamentalist:


They believe in hidden knowledge

As for empiree that guy is something else his second name is baid'ah . After albaqir , I haven't seen a strong innovator like him

Empiree:
You mind them? ^^^^

They only read religious text mechanically. They still have my question from 3yrs ago unanswered in "Jinn Stories" thread about similar thing. None of them answered.