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Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 5:46pm On Feb 09, 2019
Olu317:


As Akinjogbin explains (1992:98), Oranmiyan and his calvary, “.…

Interesting, that puts Nigerians using calvary
in the ancient times and that suggest West Africans are amongst the first to use horses for these type of activities.

It’s important to note that most archealogical sites present in West Africa arent matched with their correct carbon-dating readings. European and Arabic academics are known to distort readings for purely malicious reasons.

For instance, staff of Oranmiyan has a difference anomaly in readings; there’s the official reading that is published and those reading that don’t toll the official line are simply not published.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 5:51pm On Feb 09, 2019
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Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by lawani: 7:06pm On Feb 09, 2019
Olu317:



No Sir! in the , Art in Ancient Ife, Birth place of the Yoruba, Suzanne Preston Blier mentioned says, “The Ikedu oral history text addressing Ife’s history (an annotated kings list transposed from the early Ife dialect; Akinjogbin n.d.) indicates that it was during the reign of Ife’s 46th king—what appears to be two rulers prior to the famous King Obalufon II, that this violent civil war broke out. This conflict weakened the city enough so that there was little resistance when a military force under the conqueror Oranmiyan (Fig. 2) arrived in this historic city. The dispute likely was framed in part around issues of control of Ife’s rich manufacturing resources (glass beads, among these). Conceivably it was one of Ife’s feuding polities that invited this outsider force to come to Ife to help rectify the situation for their side. As Akinjogbin explains (1992:98), Oranmiyan and his calvary, after gaining control of Ife “.… stemmed the.… uprising by siding with the weaker … of the disunited pre-Oduduwa groups .… [driving Obalufon II] into exile at Ilara and became the Ooni."

The point to the above quote is that 45 kings was said to have reigned in ancient UFE before the man who was identified as Odudua that made civil war happened in Nigeria's UFE that changed the face of the land because it was a cosmopolitan city.Thus the proper beginning of the descendants of Ooni Odudua-Oshin Imole was when Oranmiyan begun to reign,which is the reason there are inconsistency in the order of the king lists.This only showed there existed in UFE kings list whose history are enshrined in mystery and these Kings have no proper record in Yoruba land in Nigeria. H

It is noteworthy to affirm that Nimrod have no culture of prostration as a form of salutatHhhon, Élédáà worship, ÓÒré worship etc which are means of worship of the descendants of the man's tradition. Perhaps, one day you will say, the usage of birds,animals, as sacrifices was Nimrod's. If you say Oshin was Nimrod's descendant,who among the family of Nimrod gave birth to the man with such name ? Kindly inform us.

according to the açcount I read 90 Kings ruled in ife before the meccan Oduduwa. From the meccan Oduduwa to the present day we have 51 Kings.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 8:39pm On Feb 09, 2019
Oduduwa is the Legendary father of Yoruba. A war machine force of nature in his own right; and a remarkable ruler.

Oduduwa is and always Yoruba probably hailing from Oke Ora or the Okun areas in Nigeria. He couldn’t have come from Saudi Arabia because there was no people living in Asia at the time.

The Mecca story is probably the work of earlier Arabic scholars trying to wipe out their fathers culture and traditions.

Arabs traditional religions are local to Asian tradition and customs (no doubt influenced by their African fore-fathers) further more, those who claim Oduduwa came from Mecca are guilty of the same criminality befitting the authors of the bible and quaran; they all have a total disregard for time, the chronology of our ages and how they are meant to line up in a somewhat perfect harmony.

Instead, they create fantasy stories that have no logical or substantive weight.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 8:42pm On Feb 09, 2019
All these newcomers trying to write their grandfathers history.

Arabs and Europeans are two of the more latest communities to arrive on the global stage, that suggest that people and their glorious communities are present in the African continent thousands upon thousands of years before any of the communities outside of it rises up, and now they both control one-third each and it’s very sad for those that find themselves within either of their control.

They, the Arabs and Europeans control minds, soul and discourse.

Africa needs to defend against these evil plotters and develop our own minds, re-enforce our souls to the African cause and maintain our discourse.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 8:56pm On Feb 09, 2019
Oduduwa is the Legendary father of Yoruba. A war machine force of nature in his own right; and a remarkable ruler.

Oduduwa is and always Yoruba probably hailing from Oke Ora or the Okun areas in Nigeria. He couldn’t have come from Saudi Arabia because there was no people living in Asia at the time.

The Mecca story is probably the work of earlier Arabic scholars trying to wipe out their fathers culture and traditions.

Arabs traditional religions are local to Asian tradition and customs (no doubt influenced by their African fore-fathers) further more, those who claim Oduduwa came from Mecca are guilty of the same criminality befitting the authors of the bible and quaran; they all have a total disregard for time, the chronology of our ages and how they are meant to line up in a somewhat perfect harmony.

Instead, they create fantasy stories that have no logical or substantive weight.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 8:57pm On Feb 09, 2019
All these newcomers trying to write their grandfathers history.

Arabs and Europeans are two of the more latest communities to arrive on the global stage, that suggest that people and their glorious communities are present in the African continent thousands upon thousands of years before any of the communities outside of it rises up, and now they both control one-third each and it’s very sad for those that find themselves within either of their control.

They, the Arabs and Europeans control minds, soul and discourse.

Africa needs to defend against these evil plotters and re-develop our own minds, re-enforce our souls to the African cause and maintain our discourse forever more.

I truly believe that Africa is a living fortress that conceals in her the solutions to all worldly problems. I hope and pray that all of us may be one with our great continent and continue to make her proud. Let’s create the environment that allows for the general public to partake in making Africa great again, there is no limit to what we can achieve.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Olu317(m): 5:04pm On Feb 10, 2019
Amujale:


Interesting, that puts Nigerians using calvary
in the ancient times and that suggest West Africans are amongst the first to use horses for these type of activities.

It’s important to note that most archealogical sites present in West Africa arent matched with their correct carbon-dating readings. European and Arabic academics are known to distort readings for purely malicious reasons.

For instance, staff of Oranmiyan has a difference anomaly in readings; there’s the official reading that is published and those reading that don’t toll the official line are simply not published.





Yes, they were horse riders and warriors, with all form of calvary usage.Infact, modern Yorubas have not met up with the knowledge of ancient migrant Yorubas,inclusive I. These ancient yoruba people had technology know-how.

The present day c Yorubas are too uninterested to surpass. their ancestors works in West Africa if one consider the terracotta works, Opa was studied and information say,“The nails are arranged in such an ordered manner as to render them significant. First, there are 61 in a straight line from the bottom upwards at interval of about 2 inches on either side in midline; and next, at about a distance of 4 inches on either side of this, and from the same level on top, two parallel lines of 31 of the midline. Then in the space between these three rows of parallel lines, and about the level where they converge, is found the most conspicuous of the carvings...”

The Opa was carved of granite gneiss. That’s the first mystery. How did my great grandfathers who were presumed not to have any technological knowledge carve the structure out of granite? The European explorers who examined the Opa were of the opinion that it could have been made in the first millennium C. E.

Imagine,the construction of the Opa Oranmiyan obelisk around First Millennium? And here we are ,unwilling to unravel these different great works in Yoruba land. My prayer is that may Almighty Èlèdúùmáré grant us the wisdom to worship Élédáà only.

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Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Olu317(m): 5:16pm On Feb 10, 2019
lawani:
according to the açcount I read 90 Kings ruled in ife before the meccan Oduduwa. From the meccan Oduduwa to the present day we have 51 Kings.

Which Author-Historian mentioned such? Kindly Post it. Beside, Odudua didn't live in Mecca as you have thought but his descendants because he had died over thousand of years before Nuwas; the jewish king that is eminent in the history of Mecca-Arabia . And I am sure you know Nuwas was a Jew that persecuted the Arabs and the Christians. In fact,the proper ground gaining of Yoruba was when their population increased in Kmt-Egypt before migration took them through to Yoruba land thus, Ooni became a title.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by lawani: 9:24pm On Feb 10, 2019
Olu317:


Which Author-Historian mentioned such? Kindly Post it. Beside, Odudua didn't live in Mecca as you have thought but his descendants because he had died over thousand of years before Nuwas; the jewish king that is eminent in the history of Mecca-Arabia . And I am sure you know Nuwas was a Jew that persecuted the Arabs and the Christians. In fact,the proper ground gaining of Yoruba was when their population increased in Kmt-Egypt before migration took them through to Yoruba land thus, Ooni became a title.
I saw it in a paper written by some itsekiri scholars. Yoruba spoken today is over 50 percent kemitic egyptian of 5000 years ago.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 1:47am On Feb 12, 2019
Olu317:



Yes, they were horse riders and warriors, with all form of calvary usage.Infact, modern Yorubas have not met up with the knowledge of ancient migrant Yorubas,inclusive I. These ancient yoruba people had technology know-how.

The present day c Yorubas are too uninterested to surpass. their ancestors works in West Africa if one consider the terracotta works, Opa was studied and information say,“The nails are arranged in such an ordered manner as to render them significant. First, there are 61 in a straight line from the bottom upwards at interval of about 2 inches on either side in midline; and next, at about a distance of 4 inches on either side of this, and from the same level on top, two parallel lines of 31 of the midline. Then in the space between these three rows of parallel lines, and about the level where they converge, is found the most conspicuous of the carvings...”

The Opa was carved of granite gneiss. That’s the first mystery. How did my great grandfathers who were presumed not to have any technological knowledge carve the structure out of granite? The European explorers who examined the Opa were of the opinion that it could have been made in the first millennium C. E.

Imagine,the construction of the Opa Oranmiyan obelisk around First Millennium? And here we are ,unwilling to unravel these different great works in Yoruba land. My prayer is that may Almighty Èlèdúùmáré grant us the wisdom to worship Élédáà only.

Ase!

Our ancestors managed spectacular feats that anyone would struggle with nowadays even considering the use of so-called high-tech devices that are available today. There is no doubt in my mind once our thinking is in tune with our ancestors, at once, our lives will become much better.

For me, Oranmiyan's obelisk is an archaeological treasure and a scientific marvel. First millennium C.E?

The Eurocentric explorers are not trustworthy to admit the correct readings. African physicist called Cheikh Anta Diop dated the obelisk and record a conservative date of first century B.C.E; some other African academics further argue for an additional slot on the current Timeline that could accommodate the true dates of African archaeological treasures i.e fixing the leap from neolithic to 3100 B.C.E ; the Europeans readings are the ones currently published officially.

Ancient Kemet got their knowledge of science and technology from their West Africans ancestors, or how to explain their sophisticating tools used in working on granite.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 1:59am On Feb 12, 2019
The Yoruba are the offspring of some of the most ancient ethnic group ever to roam the face of the earth.

The Yoruba is so ancient that the groups that broke off forming the Fon civilisation are considered ancient in today’s history.

Africans are the keepers of the Earth. Everything about our natural spirituality points towards the uplifting of Nature and respecting and acknowledging the importance of respecting and uplifting spirituality in the African narrative.

Along the millennia’s that have past, Africans have always considered their surroundings as a part of their fabric of everyday life.

Kemet personnel being highly skilled mathematicians, built all sorts of impossible structures; managing to simplify complicated socio - economic problems and simultaneously solving huge philosophical ones.

The Greek civilisation was largely influenced by Kemet (ancient Egypt). Various accounts of ancient scholars paints a picture of anyone who was anyone that was Greek visited kemet to get taught by the Kemetic Priests. Kemetic priest are like the scientist and academics of the day.

The father of western orthodox medicine is a Greek hero known as Hippocrates. Also known as Hippocrates the second, the most celebrated Greek physician of the Age of Pericles, and in my opinion and that of many modern day historians, the second most oustanding physician in the history of orthodox medicine.

The universal father of orthodox medicine and the most oustanding physiciansic of all time is an African call Imhotep. Imotep, a physician's physician. A multi - genius; kemetic priest; arguably one of the most celebrated academic of all time; credited with building the pyramid of Djoser.

It is widely accepted among African historians that the Yoruba (alongside the Edo, Ibo, Hausa and Fulani type) are among the many ethnic groups that built Kemet (ancient Egypt); other groups coming from modern day Ethiopia, Niger, Benin, Chad, Cameroon, Ghana, Togo, Mali and many other regions in West Africa and other regions on the continent.

The building of Egypt by Africans from different regions of the continent was the African Dream for a many millennia.

The train from South of The Sahara rolled towards Khemet , collecting new recruits from various different ethnic groups all the way to Sudan.

Here the ancient Africans from all around the continent drew up their plan to build what was to later become the cornerstone of European and Asian civilisations like Greek, Roman, Persian, Arabian e.t.c. and also, modern civilisation owes its rapid financial, ideological and technological success solely to Africa.

Khemet was the name the ancient Egyptian gave their land before European war mongers began to plunder the ancient sacred sites in search of gold and unbelievable treasures; later renaming it Egypt.

The ancient Egyptians buried their Pharaohs with amazing treasure chest, Europeans, Persians and Arabs heard of these stories of limitless gold and lost all their senses; desecrating and plundering everything in their sight; fighting themselves over
treasures.

The present day Egyptians are the reminders of those crazy thoughtless expeditions. Arab invasion that later settled on the land as conquerors.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 2:02am On Feb 12, 2019
The global world is broken and needs fixing. The only thing on our planet that can come close enough to finding a cure for the entire global world’s problems is the spirituality according to an African.

There’s need for us to stop looking outwards for nothingness.

All the answers of the world’s problems are in our domain one way or the other.

You and I are the answer, collectively, it is our kind and territory that holds all the answers to the worlds problems.

There is no people(s) outside of Africa (Diaspora) that really wishes Africans any good, all they are really after are our minerals.

The best thing about our Great continent is widely considered her trickiest among her many great qualities; natural resources.

Our Great continent is the oldest and as a result, the richest on the planet.

Let’s re-write history for the sake of the coming generation. The ones we keep passing-the-buck to, they are going to need a good start, or a concept to develop.

Here’s is what’s proposed:

The African Dream.

What is the African dream?

The African dream is the narrative that stands on the assumption that the rest of the world is crazed with lust for materialistic things and has neglected what really matters, our relationship with (the African) God(s).

Furthermore, it’s us Africans that will eventually have to come to the rescue of the rest of the world.

All organised religions operating in the African continent are bound to lose out to this new way of thinking.

A pan - African progressive narrate that anywhere in the world Africans can relate to, work towards and rally around.


The African Dream
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Olu317(m): 12:40pm On Feb 12, 2019
lawani:
I saw it in a paper written by some itsekiri scholars. Yoruba spoken today is over 50 percent kemitic egyptian of 5000 years ago.

Oh I see! Well, But this information is from the account of Olumide Lucas's claim of Egyptian origin of Yorubas which isn't far from the truth if one consider migration ancient Yorubas migration back and forth from place to place. He mixed it up when he also went out to relate some Egyptian gods as Yoruba's which lacked the truth because Yorubas have only one God; olorun,eledumaare,eledáà,the same personality, who is formless and eternal, although Yoruba have ancestors who are venerated because they had done exploit in the past. Interestingly, no prayer were said without recognition of the Yoruba supreme God as being the one who make prayers come to being accepted by him.

Unfortunately for this account, the Hieroglyphs found in Egypt isn't the same as Opa Oranmiyan,which fault's Egyptian origin of Yorubas because the inscription on it isn't found in Egypt nor such Obelisk found in Egypt but in Middle East only; Reish/Resh and Yod/Yud don't exist in Egyptian Inscription.So ancient Yorubas aren't Egyptians.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by lawani: 1:58pm On Feb 12, 2019
Olu317:


Oh I see! Well, But this information is from the account of Olumide Lucas's claim of Egyptian origin of Yorubas which isn't far from the truth if one consider migration ancient Yorubas migration back and forth from place to place. He mixed it up when he also went out to relate some Egyptian gods as Yoruba's which lacked the truth because Yorubas have only one God; olorun,eledumaare,eledáà,the same personality, who is formless and eternal, although Yoruba have ancestors who are venerated because they had done exploit in the past. Interestingly, no prayer were said without recognition of the Yoruba supreme God as being the one who make prayers come to being accepted by him.

Unfortunately for this account, the Hieroglyphs found in Egypt isn't the same as Opa Oranmiyan,which fault's Egyptian origin of Yorubas because the inscription on it isn't found in Egypt nor such Obelisk found in Egypt but in Middle East only; Reish/Resh and Yod/Yud don't exist in Egyptian Inscription.So ancient Yorubas aren't Egyptians.
because of the language similarities I believe up to 30 percent of Yoruba ancestors were egyptians just like 30 percent of British genes are Germanic
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 2:07am On Feb 13, 2019
lawani:
because of the language similarities I believe up to 30 percent of Yoruba ancestors were egyptians just like 30 percent of British genes are Germanic

Even though there’s enough evidence to suggest the hypothesis, most West African communities predates the ancient Egyptian ones.

West African communities predates both the Khemet and Mesopotamia ones, contrary to what Eurocentrics falsely claim.

If you insist on the connection that’s alright by me, my objection is how the connection came about. Yoruba and many other West African communities helped create ancient Egypt.

Ancient Egyptians can trace their ancestry to West Africa and not the other way around.

Haven said that, suggest 30% of ancient Egypt ancestry are West African, that’s quite believable. There lies no contradiction with African history to suggest 30% of ancient Egyptians can trace their ancestry to earlier West African communities.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Olu317(m): 7:00am On Feb 13, 2019
lawani:
because of the language similarities I believe up to 30 percent of Yoruba ancestors were egyptians just like 30 percent of British genes are Germanic
There is no iota of doubt that ancient Yoruba married some Egyptians-Kmt etc but this doesn't change the fact that loyalty of these Yorubas are solely to the God known as olorun,who is not known in Egypt.

In fact, many words known in ancient Egypt were different from the coptic era,which arent the same with yorubas because the shared words between Egypt and ancient yoruba were during coptic eras. This only showed that at every period in time, the kemet were conquered, some borrowed lexicons find its way to that kngdom. Interestingly, in today's Egypt, arabic runs through their vein.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by lawani: 11:36am On Feb 13, 2019
Olu317:
There is no iota of doubt that ancient Yoruba married some Egyptians-Kmt etc but this doesn't change the fact that loyalty of these Yorubas are solely to the God known as olorun,who is not known in Egypt.

In fact, many words known in ancient Egypt were different from the coptic era,which arent the same with yorubas because the shared words between Egypt and ancient yoruba were during coptic eras. This only showed that at every period in time, the kemet were conquered, some borrowed lexicons find its way to that kngdom. Interestingly, in today's Egypt, arabic runs through their vein.
it was the phoenicians that brought the semitic language to that area, before them the area spoke kemitic egyptian or Yoruba
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Olu317(m): 4:56pm On Feb 13, 2019
lawani:
it was the phoenicians that brought the semitic language to that area, before them the area spoke kemitic egyptian or Yoruba


Please stop it. Yoruba isn't older than ibo's-igbo's language. Kindly study to learn about the ancient Egyptian alphabets because tese ancient alphabets have been discovered,so that you won't indulge in all these wrong information sharing.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 3:32am On Feb 14, 2019
West African communities predates both the Khemet and Mesopotamia ones, contrary to what Eurocentrics falsely claim.

In the correct chronology of the ages, Yoruba predates Khemet and Mesopotamia.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 3:51am On Feb 14, 2019
All the earlier communities are said to have started in and around West Africa.

African academics are studying tirelessly to correct world history.

To perceive the truth behind world history, one has to first assume that the versions they all peddle to us cannot be accurate.

Start from the beginning and work your way to the present times; a daunting preposition but very effective indeed.

Africans have the absolute right to reject the history that is peddled by Eurocentrism and Asian rhetoric, for many reasons, the obvious being that neither of their versions of history can really be trusted.

Under every law under our Sun, it’s universal, the right to be allowed to write ones’s own history without any negative or foreign influence.

You simply cannot be wrong in trying to correct the writing of your own history. Nobody can really understand African history better than an African.

African history and world history are flawlessly linked, especially when African history spans through out all the Ages experience by humans; one of a kind.

All the significant stages in human development, thought, speech, text, art, agriculture, commerce, architecture, mathematics, philosophy, physicians, music e.t.c all started, developed, improved and mastered whilst Africans are the only people on the planet.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Olu317(m): 6:44am On Feb 14, 2019
Amujale:
West African communities predates both the Khemet and Mesopotamia ones, contrary to what Eurocentrics falsely claim.

In the correct chronology of the ages, Yoruba predates Khemet and Mesopotamia.


1. Since you and I know Yoruba's calendar is 10,60 years, how do you conclude on your information of Yoruba being the oldest peopke on planet earth?

2. Do you know about four- oldest bones that their ages range from over 100 years - 300 years are not in West Africa?

3. Do you know the oldest bone found in Yoruba land at Iwo Eleri isnt Yoruba ancestor?

4. Do you know this bone found in Iwo Eleru is about 11,000+ years?

5. Do you know the oldest temple in the world is in Göbekli Tepee in Turkey?


Dear brother, if you don't like Caucasians, because one reason or the other doesn't mean,fossils account need be neglected by you. In fact, researchers are spread across the globe,irrespective of colour or ethnicity.


Cheers
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Olu317(m): 6:45am On Feb 14, 2019
Amujale:
West African communities predates both the Khemet and Mesopotamia ones, contrary to what Eurocentrics falsely claim.

In the correct chronology of the ages, Yoruba predates Khemet and Mesopotamia.

1. Since you and I know Yoruba's calendar is 10,60 years as at today, how do you conclude on your information of Yoruba being the oldest people on planet earth?

2. Do you know about the four- oldest fossils that their ages range from over 100 years - 300 years are not in West Africa?

3. Do you know the oldest fossil human found in Yoruba land at Iwo Eleru isnt Yoruba ancestor?

4. Do you know this fossil human found in Iwo Eleru is about 11,000+ years?

5. Do you know the oldest temple in the world is in Göbekli Tepee in Turkey?


Dear brother, if you don't like Caucasians, because one reason or the other doesn't mean,fossils account need be neglected by you. In fact, researchers are spread across the globe,irrespective of colour or ethnicity.


Cheers
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 7:43am On Feb 14, 2019
Olu317:


1. Since you and I know Yoruba's calendar is 10,60 years as at today, how do you conclude on your information of Yoruba being the oldest people on planet earth?

2. Do you know about the four- oldest fossils that their ages range from over 100 years - 300 years are not in West Africa?

3. Do you know the oldest fossil human found in Yoruba land at Iwo Eleru isnt Yoruba ancestor?

4. Do you know this fossil human found in Iwo Eleru is about 11,000+ years?

5. Do you know the oldest temple in the world is in Göbekli Tepee in Turkey?


Dear brother, if you don't like Caucasians, because one reason or the other doesn't mean,fossils account need be neglected by you. In fact, researchers are spread across the globe,irrespective of colour or ethnicity.


Cheers


Although much of what you state here are official lines.

And are the ones that needs refuting. These arent based on scientific conclusions, rather are loosely based on out dated Eurocentric and Asian bias.

There’s need to understand that the way Africans operate in the ancient times cannot be crosschecked by making use of Eurocentric and or Asian bias text or viewpoints.

Furthermore, the greatest significance of "Gobekli Tepe" is shroud in the myth that it supposedly the birth place of civilisation, however untrue that may seem, it's sacred significance however, is in the fact that the people who built "Gobekli Tepe" are rightfully deemed the first religious gathering to come out of Europe.

African historians have been proven to be more trustworthy than their Eurocentric and Asian peers.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 8:00am On Feb 14, 2019
Olu317:


In fact, researchers are spread across the globe,irrespective of colour or ethnicity.

Cheers

African historians are the most qualified and capable to write African history. Most of the facts that you state have been found to be based on questionable ideologies.

Now, there’s need for me to make clear the fact that West African communities predates all and a every community outside of Africa and is highly considered amongst the oldest in Africa.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 8:16am On Feb 14, 2019
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Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Olu317(m): 10:22am On Feb 14, 2019
Amujale:


African historians are the most qualified and capable to write African history. Most of the facts that you state have been found to be based on questionable ideologies.

Now, there’s need for me to make clear the fact that West African communities predates all and a every community outside of Africa and is highly considered amongst the oldest in Africa.


Which ethnic group are you inferring a the oldest group in the world?

2. Are you referring to the land in West Africa as the oldest being inhabited by people of West Africa?

My last take on this is that, West Africa did not predate East Africa-Northern Africa Inhabitants
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 2:17pm On Feb 14, 2019
According to most of our reputable historians,
West African communities predates all and a every community outside of Africa and is highly considered amongst the oldest in Africa.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Olu317(m): 5:10pm On Feb 14, 2019
Amujale:


According to most of our reputable historians,
West African communities predates all and a every community outside of Africa and is highly considered amongst the oldest in Africa.

Sorry I can't tolerate such juxtaposition anymore because I have studied with reliable information without biases more than such knowledge.

Cheers
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 2:32am On Feb 15, 2019
I study with keen fascination everything about pre-colonial Africa for most of my adult life, history is intentional choice for me, because if you intend to study on sometime it’s normal to want to know their history.

I’ve studied world history with the aid of the writings and seminars of great African academics.


In part of my findings, it becomes crystal clear that Europeans and Arabic scholars spent the best part of their times trying to down-play, make false claims and or silence the discourse around African history.

Instead the evidence suggests that the version of history taught to us and peddled by western philosophy is both incorrect and counter-intuitive.
Re: Oduduwa Isn't The Father Of The 'Yorubas' by Amujale(m): 2:35am On Feb 15, 2019
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African historians spending the best part of their lives researching and writing African history.

Everyone should watch these videos.

Cheikh Anta Diop (Senegalese historian, anthropologist, physicist who studied the human race’s origin and pre- colonial African culture); Ivan Van Sertima (Guyanese-born associate professor of African Studies); Dr John Henrik Clarke (American historian, professor, and pioneer in the creation of Pan-African and Africans studies, and professional institutions in academia); Dr Ray Hagins Ph.D, respectively.

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