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Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 7:49pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
donstan18:depending on ur definition of success!!! But if ur implying that u hv to be a millionaire to be feminist ur wrong!! Am well to do but i put it to u that a woman selling tomatoes in the market can be a feminist if she wants to!!! Feminism is an ideology first which has to do majorly with ur thinking b4 any other thing!! As far u hv something doing!! Or hv a dream to make something off ur life!! Ur already a feminist as far ur mind agrees with it 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by ubunja(m): 7:53pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Ladyhippolyta88:keep being that stupid. meanwhile i get more and more people following me. go check my profile. are you gona tell them they were hurt too so you feel better as men quit worshipping?continue lying to yourself. lies are sweet and truth stings. continue. meanwhile the gospel spreads 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 7:54pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
donstan18:futher more there is a differnce between a woman who respects feminism n a feminist herself!!! Its a movement!!! Which implys that if indeed ur a feminist u preach and advocate it!!! Beyonce Hilary Clinton,Michelle obama , obama, and chiamanda ngozi adichie advocate feminism in their platforms, n songs!!! So ur second to last paragraph was inaccurate 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 7:57pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Shugavee: Are you a feminists? 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 7:58pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
donstan18:yes i am |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 8:00pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Shugavee: What is feminism and why are you a feminist? 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 8:02pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
donstan18:i wont answer the meaning of feminism cause u hv google at ur disposal!!! But i am a feminist cause i believe men n women are equal n should hv same opportunities in the society!! Its that simple 2 Likes |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 8:11pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Shugavee: Since you can't answer that, allow google to advocate feminisms for you to save yourself from more frustration and embarrassment. Dullards everywhere 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 8:15pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
donstan18:obviously u never deserved a reply |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 8:18pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Shugavee: I accommodate all sorts of replies, but not when you aren't ready to debate bravely with me. You can't be a feminist and be sending me to google to do my findings. As a feminist, explain it to me. 2 Likes |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by bobphrisel(m): 8:28pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Shugavee:well, the only reason im saying this is because i believe the bible ,God said "the woman shall be under the man" so gender cant be equal, that doesnt mean women should be mistreated or cant attain any height they want. My dear, go out there and fulfill your dream, be the world's greatest, no sane man will wish u bad 2 Likes |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 8:32pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
donstan18:asking me the meaning of feminism makes no sense cause u know that already!!! I cant reapeat what icons n great women hv repeated again n again n i just indirectly did in my reply anyways!!! I do debates with people i want to debate with!!! I answered ur question as it pleased me!!! |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 11:58pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Shugavee: You can't totally conclude that I know what feminism is all about, my definition of feminism might be different from yours, especially NL feminists, I see them as nothing bunch of frustrated ladies. That's why I had to ask you what feminism is all about, maybe for a better explanation. So I ask again ma'am, What's feminism and why are you a feminist? 2 Likes |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 10:42pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
donstan18:there is only one definition of feminism n google will give u the answer!! U see them that way cause u hv a problem with strong n courageous women that refuse to agree with the opressive ideology of the society!!! |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 10:58pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Shugavee: Wow!, courageous? Where are the courageous women? Are women been oppressed in the society?, if YES, how? Enlighten me ma'am 2 Likes |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by 2buffagain(m): 11:27pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
FluidQueen: fawk...can you please answer the man's question straight up? 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by 2buffagain(m): 12:22am On Feb 22, 2018 |
Shugavee: Well there you go. I think this is what the blokes have been calling for ever since this 6 page thread started. "Does a woman on NL actually understand that pros come with cons? and by fighting for more pros, do you know you should also be fighting for the right to take up the cons of said pros?" Because if not, all you want are all the pros and none of the cons, meaning the other party becomes a slave. Social order is about give and take, not take and take. But unfortunately all the females on this thing just want to talk the usual BS cliche's, avoiding the meatier answers to the questions the men have been asking. Dodging questions is something politicians do because they have selfish/ulterior motives and they know that what they truly think about a thing is wrong and illogical. Acting like a snake and being dodgy is just a symptom of cognitive dissonance. Such is the sickness of many women on this topic....politicians. So I appreciate you for adding a logical response to the conversation . Here's the thing, I don't think men are against true feminism as a whole, as long as it is true. What man also doesn't want the option to quit his job and follow his dreams while his woman finances him? Who no like good thing? The issue is the dual-tongue/double-speak in the feminist circles because all of a sudden when you flip the script as something that could also be of a benefit to men, that is when you start hearing "He is not a real man, blah blah blah". Before you know it, the woman starts to throw shade and starts making him know how much of a useless man he is. Meanwhile THESE are the things that should be fought for, if the goal is true feminism. How do you get the PRO without being willing to rightfully take on the CON? The more feminists address these things head on without wieving and dodging weightier discussions, the more support they'll get from the other party. As it stands, feminists only want to talk about WHAT FEMALES SHOULD GET and not what they should be willing to also give. Sh!t don't work like that. This video is the typical reaction of a typical feminist when she is met with the con of feminism (after enjoying the pros). It shows that FEMINIST WOMEN have a lot to work on IN THEMSELVES, before trying to claim the badge of "fighting for equality". Until they do, it's all just noise....and nobody respects noise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH4_ak_kuQc |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 6:08pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
2buffagain:well thats her opinion not mine n urs as well!!! I really hv no mb to watch that!!! Good day |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 6:12pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
donstan18:so this ur question is implying u dont see the way women are being opressed in the society See i am not doing this with you!!! If only u see it as a joke!!! Smh |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 6:15pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
Shugavee: What joke are you scribbling about? I asked, are women being oppressed in the society?, if YES, how? It's a simple question, or is it hard? Why not clear me on this feminist ish, convince me ma'am. How are women being oppressed? |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 7:06pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
donstan18:1, victim blaming on rape cases 2. Women being seen as the weaker sex, 3. Domestic violence n stupid men still blaming the victim talking abt respect nonsense 4. Women aint given equal opportunities in the labour force " she is a woman she would get married but a man has responsibilities" even if she is more qualified than the man!! So less salary or no job at all!! 5. Calling a man the head of the home whether or not he is incharge of the finacial expenses!! 6. The fact that the birth of a male child seems more important than female child, 7. The fact marriage is the only area the society find women more relevant!! I can go on n on!!! Women are opressed!!! Piatriathy is the cause of it all!!! Reason feminism is coming soon!!! Lke it or not 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by ubunja(m): 7:17pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
Shugavee:be a lesbian and solve all your problems then form your own Woman-only country.you have too many grieviences. if you cant do either buckle up coz the partriarchy aint going anywhere. dont take my word for it...look around you.what have women achieved since feminism besides calling everything rape? america itself the world leader of feminism rejected a woman and voted for a misogynistic man!!! can there a bigger sign that feminism is a failure? i laugh at your determined stupidity. i laugh. C O N T I N U E.... |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 8:05pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
Smh......I really laughed while reading all you wrote, but all the same, let me attempt to it Shugavee: How do you mean ladies being victimized in a rape case? , haven't we being seeing, reading and hearing on the news how rapists are being arrested and penalized, where and when did you in any way see a lady blamed for being raped, where have you seen that? I don't even get, which society did that happen? Shugavee: Are being seen as weaker sex by who? You ladies call and see yourselves as weaker sex. Now let's take VIOLENCE as an example, when a lady harasses, slap or hit a man, what is expected of the man by ladies, he shouldn't retaliate and be a gentle man, right?,....But when a man hits a woman, what will these same ladies call it?, woman beater, right? Now, with this my instance, do I need to tell you that women are the ones that sees and enjoy calling themselves weaker sex?, do i? Shugavee: I didn't understand anything here, give a clear point, please Shugavee: Labour force?, what is labour force? , you mean "Being privileged to do some works"..If yes. Name the works or jobs that the society don't allow them do. While naming them, remember to add bricklaying, carpentry, agbero, barrow pushing, gatewoman, welder, iron bending work,vigilante and other hard labour jobs. Shugavee: Who should be the head of the family? Do you even know what you are typing atall? Can't stop laughing. Shugavee: Important, how? Explain biko! Shugavee: Please stop sounding bitter, women prioritize marriage in their life, not society. Women sees themselves as commodity by asking for money from men for sex, not the society. Stop struggling and sounding bitter to make a simple and valid point, Be free and brave 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by ubunja(m): 8:31pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
donstan18:ha ha ha she forgets women are the ones always calling men immature for not committing to marriage now marriage is men's way of enslaving women lol self-dellusion at its best... how many times have we heard MEN ARE COMMITMENT-PHOBIC, now commitment is a problem?? get the fvck out of here!! feminists are sewage 2 Likes |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 8:37pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
ubunja: Hahahah Mr Ubunja the brain teaser I'm yet to see a smart feminist wannabes on nairaland. I don't think I'm wrong when I call them confused frustrated fellow's 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 8:59pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
donstan18:am sounding bitter how?? Mtchew!! Now i hv explained to u hw women are opressed n u letting sentiments blind ur thinkimg is non of my bussiness!!! I expect u to be defensive over the obvious truth!!! Whether u like it or not feminism is still going to stand!!! Equality!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 9:06pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
Shugavee: It will come on Nairaland And please, when it comes, don't forget to call me, your friend..….So that we'll sing a welcoming anthem to it, eat and drink to welcome it happily and then fvck ourselves hardly and hot. Hope you'll call me when aunty feminism comes? |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 9:08pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
ubunja:What hv feminism achieved?? Please do research!!! I cant start writing epitles 4 u!!! Funny enough patriarchy is dying by the day!!! That why u men are so bitter abt it!!! I laugh!!! Kontinue decieving urself!!! Equality is coming whether u like it or not!! 1 Like |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by Shugavee(f): 9:12pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
donstan18:sure gonna invite u to her party n u will be the chairman of the occasion !! Front seat 4 u!! So u could u know after that!!! |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by youngreezy(m): 9:16pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
Shugavee:shh U R Making Noise Bitch...A Nigga Tryna Sleep. |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by donstan18: 9:21pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
Shugavee: Front seat with you sitting on my laps. That's the most important thing for me |
Re: "Feminists Want Benefits That Men Get But Don't Want The Problem" - Lady by toro92: 9:26pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
Shugavee:I will quite disagree on the less salary issue which equates to gender pay gap. There may be enclaves, it’s possible. But overall, I’m not aware of any responsible economist (including feminist economists) who will claim that there is systemic discrimination against women across the board. Most economists will tell you that this claim that women earn 77 cents for every dollar a man earns is bogus. Or, it’s misleading – let me put it that way. It doesn’t take into account different occupations, positions, hours worked per week – those relevant factors have to be considered, and when they are considered the wage gap narrows. And in some studies, it vanishes. So, wage-gap activists have to do the proper controls. They always fail to take into account critical variables. |
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