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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 4:00pm On Feb 27, 2018
Embell:

Prove what? What's this one saying?
Read the link na

https://www.nairaland.com/4117606/how-answer-question-where-did
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by mu2sa2: 4:00pm On Feb 27, 2018
lamalang:
The only difference is one is regid while the other is flexible. To enter any mosque you see and pray that’s the genesis of boko haram , cos they entered the wrong mosque and met the wrong iman and now they are killing innocent people , jumping from one church to another is bad, some churches are occultic you should beware . The use different methods in getting new members, the other is hash while the other is soft
Name the occultic churches so that they can be avoided.
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Horlaz(m): 4:02pm On Feb 27, 2018
Grazy dude lol �
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by anigbajumo(m): 4:13pm On Feb 27, 2018
Odingo1:

Is there any religion that will not claim that his own is the best, God giving and teaches everything
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People don't like Islam because they like terrorism too much, they like bombing people to ashes.

That is d problem of most of u people, Islam has nothing to do with with terrorist. If Islam is synonymous to terrorist I expect bokoharam to be in SE (non Muslim domain) not North wea it there are many Muslim. Going by statistics,terrorist has killed more Muslim than Christian, wat s ur point bro??
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by FemiAdeboye(m): 4:17pm On Feb 27, 2018
Your relationship with God is more important than your religion.
Note that not everyone that is called Bishop will enter the kingdom of God...
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:21pm On Feb 27, 2018
kabrud:
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State the chapters and verses and stop writing bunkum.
quran Verse (4:157) - English Translation, are you happy now.

kabrud:
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There are millions of memorizers of the Quran all over the world and that is how it is preserved in Arabic language where it can never be altered.

And that still doesn't change the fact that, there are many version of quran so stop smoking weed.

kabrud:
[s][/s]
If you think muslims give a shiit about those translation, you must be deceiving yourselves.

Really? Last i check it was those translation that you are using to deceive the west world, smh

kabrud:
[s][/s]stop coming up with shiits from Internet.

Lol, you are calling your quran shits, lol, who care, i just show you some version of your quran and i don't care weather you are using it or not, fact is it exist.
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:27pm On Feb 27, 2018
anigbajumo:


That is d problem of most of u people, Islam has nothing to do with with terrorist. If Islam is synonymous to terrorist I expect bokoharam to be in SE (non Muslim domain) not North wea it there are many Muslim. Going by statistics,terrorist has killed more Muslim than Christian, wat s ur point bro??

because SE is just like your house that you will just enter and go out without knowing the terrain configuration right? Go and learn more about war and terrorism tactics.

If i may ask why is it that bokoharam are not attacking Muslim dominated state like, sokoto, kano, kastina,

why are they attacking state that Christianity is raising?
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 4:29pm On Feb 27, 2018
anigbajumo:


That is d problem of most of u people, Islam has nothing to do with with terrorist. If Islam is synonymous to terrorist I expect bokoharam to be in SE (non Muslim domain) not North wea it there are many Muslim. Going by statistics,terrorist has killed more Muslim than Christian, wat s ur point bro??
But muslims have been killing muslims right from the days of Muhammad. Remember how all his children were slain bu Abubakr
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:33pm On Feb 27, 2018
MDsambo:
There're different versions of Qur'an?
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

You mst be a jocker or probably high on some cheap drugs.

i guess you are the one high here

Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.
Yusuf Ali: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Shakir: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
Muhammad Sarwar: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus.
Mohsin Khan: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

This are just some version for you, Google is your friend.
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:38pm On Feb 27, 2018
Algorithms:
Quran has only ONE version since its revelation...there exist only ONE version of The Holy Quran since its revelation...let me repeat it, QURAN HAS ONLY ONE VERSION!!!!

little research would have save you and your gullible like from embarrassment.

Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.
Yusuf Ali: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Shakir: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
Muhammad Sarwar: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus.
Mohsin Khan: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

This is just one verse from different version of your quran lol
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:41pm On Feb 27, 2018
shabidu:
Quran have just one version. please don't be misled.



This is just one verse from different version of your quran lol

Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.
Yusuf Ali: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Shakir: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
Muhammad Sarwar: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus.
Mohsin Khan: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Embell: 4:42pm On Feb 27, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
Read the link na

https://www.nairaland.com/4117606/how-answer-question-where-did
May God deliver him. He doesn't even believe in the Jesus he's claiming he believe.
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Nobody: 4:42pm On Feb 27, 2018
Caseless:
Lol


Albhagdadi , as an extremely emotional Christian, I know your argument will be devoid of logic.

Versions of Quran? King salman version or emir sanusi version? grin grin

In your fake data, Buddhist are 300 million?


Muslims 1.3 billion? You're funny.

If Muhammad came 2000 year after Jesus, how did Islam grow and still closing the gap in number it has with Christianity? That's the argument of the pastor.

Of the 6 continents of the world, Africa and Asia accounted for close to 85% of world population as at the last count. You know the population of muslims in Asia and Africa.

In fact, it's projected that muslims will be 1.5 billion in 2050 in Asia. That's the growth the pastor is talking about.

Check the same google again to see the fastest growing religion in the world. Even in Europe and America where you claim is "Christian". That's the argument of the pastor.

Perhaps if the Islamic nations would be fair to allow freedom of worship and allow Christianity you know the population won't be up to that.

Most Islamic countries prohibits Christianity but they will shout freedom of worship in another country.
Have u seen any Christian dominated nation with worship or religious prohibitions
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:46pm On Feb 27, 2018
jhubril:
Anything in defence of falsehood will definitely make it to the front-page . I refuse to follow the lure of reading these weak arguments. Maybe when I clock 100 insha Allah.

your Allah really work hard in making you dumb, am so sure you are one of those people that like the man news yesterday, but because they prove the man wrong today you are disappointed lol, no need for you to comment since you don't read the news, so carry your frustration go your hIslamic section.
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by kabrud: 4:46pm On Feb 27, 2018
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Olabenjamen22:

quran Verse (4:157) - English Translation, are you happy now.



And that still doesn't change the fact that, there are many version of quran so stop smoking weed.



Really? Last i check it was those translation that you are using to deceive the west world, smh



Lol, you are calling your quran shits, lol, who care, i just show you some version of your quran and i don't care weather you are using it or not, fact is it exist.
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Q 4 v 157

Wa qawlihim innaa qatal nal maseeha 'Eesab-na-Maryama Rasoolal laahi wa maa qataloohu wa maa salaboohu wa laakin shubbiha lahum; wa innal lazeenakh talafoo fee lafee shakkim minh; maa lahum bihee min 'ilmin illat tibaa'az zann; wa maa qataloohu yaqeenaa.


Posted above is Quran chapter 4 verses 157, and that is what it is anywhere all over the world from the beginning and this is how it shall be forever. Now tell me any "version" that state it differently. The Quran is memorised by several millions and no one can change it. Satans can keep their own versions of internet translations, we don't need it.

Yes, all translations by Angels of darkness are nothing but shiit, quote me anywhere.

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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Nobody: 4:57pm On Feb 27, 2018
Olabenjamen22:


[b]Sahih International[\b]: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
[b]Pickthall[\b]: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.
[b]Yusuf Ali:[\b] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
[b]Shakir[\b]: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
[b]Muhammad Sarwar[\b]: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus.
[b]Mohsin Khan[\b]: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:
[b]Arberry:[\b] and for their saying, 'We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of God' -- yet they did not slay him, neither crucified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them. Those who are at variance concerning him surely are in doubt regarding him; they have no knowledge of him, except the following of surmise; and they slew him not of a certainty -- no indeed;

Lol, one verse With different version. Smh
Please young man, understand the difference between version and translation. Arabic language is one of the most vast languages in the world. It has a large vocabulary, you can't translate Arabic to any other language word to word. What you mentioned above are different translation of the Qur'an not version and besides all the translation are passing a single message. For your proper understanding of different versions and contradictory message please see this verses from NIV & KJV
New International Version 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.
King James Version 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
Muslims have a single version of the Qur'an, the one you find here in Nigeria will be the same as that in China, America, Russia or anywhere in the world as long as it is the Arabic context. But translation may differ. Let's argue constructively and set aside sentiment.

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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by NOETHNICITY(m): 4:57pm On Feb 27, 2018
alBHAGDADI:

All Christian denominations hold that major believe that Jesus is God made flesh, no dispute about that.
U re on ur own on this o
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 5:09pm On Feb 27, 2018
kabrud:
[s][/s]
Q 4 v 157

Wa qawlihim innaa qatal nal maseeha 'Eesab-na-Maryama Rasoolal laahi wa maa qataloohu wa maa salaboohu wa laakin shubbiha lahum; wa innal lazeenakh talafoo fee lafee shakkim minh; maa lahum bihee min 'ilmin illat tibaa'az zann; wa maa qataloohu yaqeenaa.


Posted above is Quran chapter 4 verses 157, and that is what it is anywhere all over the world from the beginning and this is how it shall be forever. Now tell me any "version" that state it differently. The Quran is memorised by several millions and no one can change it. Satans can keep their own versions of internet translations, we don't need it.

Yes, all translations by Angels of darkness are nothing but shiit, quote me anywhere.

Lol, we are talking about version here you are talking about language, i know that you are among those that are shouting Holy bible have many version but fail to acknowledge that there is only one version of Hebrew Bible, or have you even see KJV in Hebrew? Lol

i guess you don't know that those version of your quran that are post are also in hard copy. Lol

so you mean your people are using the Satan version to convert western people, wonderful.

You even forget that there different version of your Arabic quran self even after your Uthman, the third Caliph (successors of Muhammad), order for the destruction of the other version. Lol,
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by kabrud: 5:18pm On Feb 27, 2018
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Olabenjamen22:


Lol, we are talking about version here you are talking about language, i know that you are among those that are shouting Holy bible have many version but fail to acknowledge that there is only one version of Hebrew Bible, or have you even see KJV in Hebrew? Lol

i guess you don't know that those version of your quran that are post are also in hard copy. Lol

so you mean your people are using the Satan version to convert western people, wonderful.

You even forget that there different version of your Arabic quran self even after your Uthman, the third Caliph (successors of Muhammad), order for the destruction of the other version. Lol,
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Sharrap. Revised Standard Edition and King James version are different versions of the same bible but you are here quoting translations of the Quran. I repeat, quote other different versions of that verse in its Arabic form. Or have you forgotten that muslims don't recite Quran in English language. There is no where in the world where the words of Quran in Arabic is different from the ones we have here. They are all the same, quote me anywhere.
Lol, instead of even stating "versionss" he is busy quoting translations which muslims don't even subscribe to. Try, harder, the Quran is one, satans can duck off with their shityy translations.

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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 5:34pm On Feb 27, 2018
ItzLaw:
Please young man, understand the difference between version and translation.

Wow, really? So if i may ask did KJV,NIV e.t.c translate the Bible or write the Bible? Lol


ItzLaw:
Arabic language is one of the most vast languages in the world. It has a large vocabulary, you can't translate Arabic to any other language word to word.

But you fail to acknowledge that Hebrew language is more hard to translate to other language, which bring about different in translation version right, see hypocrite everywhere.

ItzLaw:
Qur'an not version and besides all the translation are passing a single message. For your proper understanding of different versions and contradictory message

Ooo, Really well maybe i should help you with some

Yusuf Ali:[\b] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but [b]so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Lol, your first version says that it was an illusion.

Mohsin Khan[\b]: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, [b]but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

Lol, your second version or translation or whatever you call it say it was his look alike that was killed, lol

You one is true? I guess that's not contradiction right?

You can continue deceiving yourself it just a matter of time the world will know your true color.

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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 5:37pm On Feb 27, 2018
Caseless:
Lol


Albhagdadi , as an extremely emotional Christian, I know your argument will be devoid of logic.

Versions of Quran? King salman version or emir sanusi version? grin grin

In your fake data, Buddhist are 300 million?


Muslims 1.3 billion? You're funny.

If Muhammad came 2000 year after Jesus, how did Islam grow and still closing the gap in number it has with Christianity? That's the argument of the pastor.

Of the 6 continents of the world, Africa and Asia accounted for close to 85% of world population as at the last count. You know the population of muslims in Asia and Africa.

In fact, it's projected that muslims will be 1.5 billion in 2050 in Asia. That's the growth the pastor is talking about.

Check the same google again to see the fastest growing religion in the world. Even in Europe and America where you claim is "Christian". That's the argument of the pastor.
Google is there for you to check out the facts na. Click the below link to see for yourself or use google.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/06/the_odd_body_religion/



Islam grew because of violence, forceful conversion and reckless breeding due to plygamy.

Islam is also the fastest dying religion due to the rate of terrorist atacks - muslims killing muslims.
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Express1086: 5:38pm On Feb 27, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
A post by a certain Bishop Sam Zuga is currently trending for a statement he made concerning religion. In the post, the Bishop claims Muslims are better than Christians. This he did with reasons but failed to back them up using the Quran or Bible.

https://www.nairaland.com/4369794/bishop-sam-zuga-why-muslims


Let's examine the reasons he gave to see whether they hold water or are simply falsehood issued to decieve the gullible.




The bishop has hinged his claim on the reason that the population of Muslims is competiting with that of Christianity. This is one big lie and it shows that he is not an informed person. Below is a list showing 7 religions and their population. You can find the list on google.

Christianity (2.1 billion)
Islam (1.3 billion)
Nonreligious (Secular/Agnostic/Atheist) (1.1 billion)
Hinduism (900 million)
Chinese traditional religion (394 million)
Buddhism 376 million.
Primal-indigenous (300 million)

Clearly, one can see that Christianity trumps Islam with over a billion adherents. So where did this bishop get his own statistics from? Perhaps he just assumed that it should be so simply because Muslims practice polygamy and love to give birth to many children. He forgot that however well their population is increasing, it is also decreasing due to the constant Muslim on Muslim violence.



There are also different versions of Quran just as we have it with the Bible (pls google up). The Bishop and many others believe that for there to be different versions of the Bible, it must mean that it has been tampered with. What this Bishop doesn't know is that he is simply ridiculing Islam which claims God's word cannot be tampered with.

Quran 6:115
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.
You can't even defend your claim we Muslim have only one holy book and that is Quran which one is international sahih.

If that Bishop and all those who believe that the Quran and the Bible contain words of the same God, how come they believe that the words of that God in the Bible were tampered with when he himself said in the Quran that his words cannot be altered?

b. Prayer

What has the amount of times one prays got to do with who's better? And who told this bishop that it's only on Sundays Christians pray? Perhaps he expects to see Christians praying in the streets where all eyes can see, something the Pharisees of Jesus time use to do which He warned us against. Christians pray at anytime they want, not at designated times. They can pray at anytime cos they know their God is not the type that waits till a particular hour before he can listen to prayers.

c. Place of worship

Christians also worship anywhere they want and are even welcomed. No one will prevent you from worshipping in any Church governed by God, cos even non-christians are welcomed. Mr Bishop, can a Yoruba muslim be allowed to lead prayer in a mosque in Northern Nigeria?



I have never seen where a person is rejected by Christianity just because of the Church he attends. Christianity even welcomes people of other faith in Love. Do Sunni Muslims love Shia Muslims? NO. The reason why this Bishop is so accepted by Muslism to the point of him saying they allow him to preach in their mosque is simply because he only plays their tune, meaning he preaches another Jesus. The moment he starts telling them that Jesus is the Son of God, I can assure you that you and I know what will happen to him.



All Christian denominations hold that major believe that Jesus is God made flesh, no dispute about that. I now wonder what this man is talking about.

There are tonnes of fake Imams as much as fake pastors out there; the ones that sell human parts for rituals, the ones that inspire terrorists and jihadists and the ones that sleep with other people's wife.

Jesus Christ already told us not to let people know when we are fasting. That is why we dont broadcast it to the rest of the world. We simply keep it to ourselves.



How do you expect CAN to come and welcome you when they know that it is not Christianity you are preaching but Islam? Have you ever seen Muslims coming to welcome Reinhard Bonke or Bishop Oyedepo? They won't cos nothing they say interests them, infact their words are against the Islamic belief. So, if Muslims are welcoming you, just know that you are in league with them, perhaps their mole.



What this bishop is saying is that if a pastor should tell me to strap myself with a suicide vest and go blow up a Church or Mosque, I'm not to disobey. Now, we know why Northeast Nigeria is the way it is today.

The Quran can't be argued on cos questioning it can lead to beheadings and punishment.



If Christians are not united, how come they are not bombing each other's Church? How come they are not killing each other like we have it in the middle east?

Speaking of gifts, does this pastor know the amount of Christian organizations that have donated gifts to boko haram victims who are mostly Muslims, gifts that are sometimes prevented from the few Christians in the IDP camps?

Muslims believe in a twisted version of Jesus. How can they say they believe in Jesus yet they deny that he is the Son of God?

John 5:26

"For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;

Matthew 3:17

and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased."
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I think this Bishop just successfully declared himself a false prophet who should be ignored by all means.


Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 5:40pm On Feb 27, 2018
kabrud:
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Sharrap. Revised Standard Edition and King James version are different versions of the same bible but you are here quoting translations of the Quran. I repeat, quote other different versions of that verse in its Arabic form. Or have you forgotten that muslims don't recite Quran in English language. There is no where in the world where the words of Quran in Arabic is different from the ones we have here. They are all the same, quote me anywhere.
Lol, instead of even stating "versionss" he is busy quoting translations which muslims don't even subscribe to. Try, harder, the Quran is one, satans can duck off with their shityy translations.
The original manuscripts of the Bible were written in Greek and Hebrew languages. What you have in the King James and Revised standard edition are just translations of different kinds.

Quran also has different translations.
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Express1086: 5:41pm On Feb 27, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
But muslims have been killing muslims right from the days of Muhammad. Remember how all his children were slain bu Abubakr
Your foolishness no b here

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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Express1086: 5:43pm On Feb 27, 2018
Olabenjamen22:




This is just one verse from different version of your quran lol

Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.
Yusuf Ali: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Shakir: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
Muhammad Sarwar: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus.
Mohsin Khan: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:
This is a fabrication not quran
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 5:44pm On Feb 27, 2018
Pharaoh001:


I wonder oo.....
but the OP was pained and deluded!
He doesn't want to face reality..

btw...he didn't mention fasting -Muslim Ramadan -It justifies that the bishop was right!
I touched on that, but your failure to read the post really blinded you from seeing it.

Pharaoh001:


These one put me off,from reading...
The OP is mentally retar ded
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by kabrud: 5:51pm On Feb 27, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
The original manuscripts of the Bible were written in Greek and Hebrew languages. What you have in the King James and Revised standard edition are just translations of different kinds.

Quran also has different translations.
Muslims don't recite translation. I can go to the market today and buy different versions of the Bible, but have you ever heard of this cleric and that cleric version of the Quran. If it is the translation you are talking about, there are thousands of translations available but the Quran remains in its original form and Islamic scholars don't recite those translated versions during prayers and preachings. That is why any Islamic scholar who depends on any yeye translation is not even recognised by a 10 yr old, go and find out.

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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 5:56pm On Feb 27, 2018
kabrud:

Muslims don't recite translation. I can go to the market today and buy different versions of the Bible, but have you ever heard of this cleric and that cleric version of the Quran. If it is the translation you are talking about, there are thousands of translations available but the Quran remains in its original form and Islamic scholars don't recite those translated versions during prayers and preachings. That is why any Islamic scholar who depends on any yeye translation is not even recognised by a 10 yr old, go and find out.
The Bible in its original form also exists.

The reason why we use translated versions is simply because they are in languages we understand e.g english, yoruba, igbo, hausa etc. This is unlike quran where you have to study Arabic before you can read it. It shows that the book was meant for the arabs alone, that's why you all don't regard anyone that teaches using the translated versions.

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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by UnicoBoas01: 5:57pm On Feb 27, 2018
D only reason dat make it seem like muslims r more is cos dey marry more wives n wit dat give birth to more children.Dey claim their religion of peace,how many muslims dominated country is peaceful? And in nigeria dey create d most problems,boko haram,herdmen,illiteracy,underage voting,etc
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 5:57pm On Feb 27, 2018
kabrud:
[s][/s]Sharrap. Revised Standard Edition and King James version are different versions of the same bible but you are here quoting translations of the Quran.
Bros, calm down, we are not fighting here.
If i may ask did KJV, ESV write the bible or translate the Bible?
Thank God You acknowledge that's of the same bible, so let be help you with meaning and definition of version according to wikipedia
Version. (obsolete) The act of translating, or rendering, from one language into another language.
so what are you saying.

kabrud:
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I repeat, quote other different versions of that verse in its Arabic form.
Well I will be glad to do that if you can show me KJV, RSV e.t.c in Hebrew and Greek form.

Lol, what you people cannot refute is that those people you are mentioning only translate the bible not write it, lol

kabrud:
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Or have you forgotten that muslims don't recite Quran in English language.

Really, because i have alot of Muslim friends here usually listen to quran recitation in English, so what are you saying?

kabrud:
[s][/s]There is no where in the world where the words of Quran in Arabic is different from the ones we have here.

Same apply to Words of Bible un Hebrew, so talk less.

kabrud:
[s][/s]Lol, instead of even stating "versionss" he is busy quoting translations which muslims don't even subscribe to. Try, harder, the Quran is one, satans can duck off with their shityy translations.

Go back to school you educated illiterate.
Learn the meaning of version and it application.
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by kabrud: 5:58pm On Feb 27, 2018
Express1086:

This is a fabrication not quran
I wonder. They are trying hard to create versions of Quran within themselves to justify multiplicity of bible version. A Christian will tell you he either has king James version or Revised Standard Edition of the same Bible, but here they are, quoting English translations (which depends on the translators understanding) as "versions" of the Quran.
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 6:01pm On Feb 27, 2018
Express1086:

This is a fabrication not quran

Lol, another dummy, well maybe we should go and tell the western world that what you are using to convert them is fabrication. Smh

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