@olaadegbu

What would you do about homosexual people if you were president of the usa?

mantraa:

@olaadegbu

What would you do about homosexual people if you were president of the usa?

It is not just about homosexual people but their behaviour. I believe all immoral behaviour should be taken care of in the constitution which I believe is based on the Bible. What Obama is doing is to change the landmark and make what is an abomination to be acceptable and this is why America is committing political harakiri with its legislation.

sley4life:

i guess d gayers would back this 2 d fullest

Not only gays but all those who don't trust God's Word. It should not surprise you that most of the folks supporting this declaration are atheists and agnostics who do not want the absolute truth of the Word of God to guide them.

Are people justified when they say this man is an antichrist or not?

So supporting gay rights makes him an anti-Christ?
Was reaching out to the gay population of the US not one of the agenda on his presidential compaign manisfesto?
Or we forget sometimes that we are not dealing with Nigerian politics?

Not only gays but all those who don't trust God's Word.  It should not surprise you that most of the folks supporting this declaration are atheists and agnostics who do not want the absolute truth of the Word of God to guide them.

If you want to the absolute truth and word of GOd to guide 'them', please start with your own country Nigeria. The affairs of other nations should not concern you as much, especially when you have more to deal with in your own country Nigeria. In other words, mind your own business.

shilling:

Wow, Obama, wow!! Sad, sad day!

Sad day indeed. It should be a dark month in the calender of America, where the likes of Abraham Lincoln made the declaration proclamation of the abolition of slave trade and Martin Luther King Jnr proclaimed his dream that brought a black man to power only for Obama to surpass that by declaring an unbiblical declaration that will spell the beginning of the end of the U.S. of A.

oyb:

is america not a secular country again

anyone who has any issues should jump ship to malawi or was it mozambique?- they know how to deal with those apostles of the devil over there

you can even come down to naija where when they aren't legislating against faggets, they are fighting karate in the senate

You have a point there.  Do you know the main reason why U.S. and the U.K. had problems with Zimbabwe in the first place?  Nigeria was ready to pass a bill that will outlaw homosexual behaviours but the powers that be have not allowed them to present or pass the bill unless they want to do it at their own risk.

Blazay:


So supporting gay rights makes him an anti-Christ?
Was reaching out to the gay population of the US not one of the agenda on his presidential compaign manisfesto?
Or we forget sometimes that we are not dealing with Nigerian politics?



If you want to the absolute truth and word of GOd to guit 'them', please start with your own country Nigeria. The affairs of other nations should not concern you as much, especially when you have more to deal with in your own country Nigeria. In other words, mind your own business.

The affairs of other nations concern AMERICA so much, that the have a list of countries targeted for covert CIA operations.
The USA has even shamelessly, declared  the use of taxpayers money to support NGOs that actively promote homosexuality in Africa.

Furthermore, if the Homafia were not intent on forcing their deviant lifestyle on the majority of God-fearing people, they would be content with legislation that protects all human beings against violence. Instead the Homafia wants special (a) "Gay Pride" parades, instead of (b) "Godly atonement against unnatural homosexual tendencies". Note, both address the same issue but one glorifies deviance, while the other seeks divine guidance and atonement.

QUESTION to TheHomer and Mantraa?
Are Transgendered men normal in physically mutilating their bodies to give the illusion they are female? Is it not better for them to accept themselves as gay men instead of forcefully trying to become female?

CarlosVent:

he is under pressure and if your him u could have done same.

He is under the pressure that he subjected himself to. The powers that are dictating to him know that Obama is predisposed to it and that is why they expect him to perform or else.

bros1234:

Its a pity that obama is helping fulfil prophecis that willl lead to the fall of America

If you are conversant with the prophecies in the book of Daniel you will realise that the Anti-christ, the man of sin is revealed to be an homosexual, so it is inevitable that his men (anti-christs) make way for his behaviour to be acceptable and those individuals or nations standing in his way will have to bear the brunt (if they miss the rapture).

mrmayor:

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You better pray that folks will not follow the moral depravity of the U.S. of A because if they sneeze the rest of the world catches cold.

mistermm:

@noetic

I dub my cap for you, you made a whole lot of sense even without been rude to the gay. Mazaje is a gay no doubt,

I don't think mazaje is denying that, I even saw his post shining his teeth to that comment.

kobikwelu:

indifferent


for all i care, he can turn the country into a Muslim state

Those who know the implications of this declaration will certainly be concerned for their children who are being taught that this behaviour is natural and normal just as we are seeing the result of the teaching of evolution in the lives of kids growing up who are now having an evolutionist worldview.

Na wah o,

Plenty Gay people dey dis nairaland sha o! see as dm dey defend their pple.

st-kris:

while i aint a big fan of the gays, n wont be found promoting or marching at a gay pride parade or anything, i still feel n know that every one under the sun deserves equal treatment n thats it.

No one is saying that they don't have the right to live the way they want and they should not be discriminated against, what we are saying is that the Government doesn't have the right to enforce it on others to accept it as a normal and natural behaviour.

Scientists have discovered that children brought up in such an environment have a high percentage of depression because of such confusion. Why should children be subjected to such deviant acts in the name of equality. Even 5 year olds are now being taught forcefully by the use of dolls to accept that it is another form of a family life.

Kx:

In the same month they experienced the unending oil spill,
Obama deemed it fit to declare a whole month for homosexuals, gays, etc?

when will his 1st term expire pls?

Lets just hope he will last his 1st term.

With all these promotion of the lifestyle and the confused messages about their own sexual identity don't be surprised when it increases the likelihood of the next generation being gay.

GudFolk:

The cartoon by OlaAdegbu is the best view of our world today. In reality, there is no such thing as EQUAL rights for everybody. The reality of nature on planet Earth as we call it, is that the strongest (predators) will consume the weaker (prey). However, the definition of strongest evolves and so does the target of consumption. ;-)

Thanks for the point raised there.  I wonder when they will begin to respect the rights to believe the absolute truths of the Bible, rights of the unborn babies. 

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MELAA:

Soon what happen to Sodom andGomorrah will in no distant time happen to  AMERICA.

Those are days are already here among us.  This is what Jesus had to say to such people;

"I tell you, Nay: but except you repent, you shall all likewise perish" -- (Luke 13:3 The Evidence Bible)

God tells us why sinners will perish. 

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you . . . seeing you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children."

The bible tells us that the reason God's people were destroyed was a lack of knowledge of God's Law.  Homosexuals who are ignorant of the Moral Law has no understanding of the nature of sin (Rom.7:7-9) and if they don't understand what sin is, they will not repent, and if they don't repent, they would perish.  They perish through lack of knowledge of the Law, and it is even worse when the law of the land is changed to accommodate abominable behaviours.

This is what Dan Arnold had to say; "The gospel has not been clearly preached if the hearer doesn't know that not to make a decision is a decision."

Tcrack:

do people still discuss this gay issue? i thought its a forgone conclusion. the truth is, homosexaulity has come to stay an its either you join them or leave them with their lifestyle.i usually find its disgusting though especially the negro ones.

What hope has a negro homo got when he is at the mercy of a racist?

1Emmy:

A month for immorality, oh my God, What madness is this. Rubbish, nonsense.

You captured it with the right words, immorality is what it is and it is only those who don't accept God's Moral Law that would bask in such madness for a whole month.

mr.official:

@OLAADEGBU

Leave them alone, they are blind.

There is no truth that you will tell them that they will not defy, I'm sure of that.

Well its good so they can rethink.

If you ask them to upload their gay faces now, they will say NO. Not that they don't want to, its just that they can't.

As I said earlier, if no one warns a blind man that he is about to fall into a ditch the blind man will definitely end up in it and may not survive to warn others.

Iyineda:

The truth. . . THAT is the problem. There isn't only one truth. People call "truth" what they deeply (want to) believe in. This truth you talk about is often subjective thus one-sided. The truth of the Christians versus that of the Muslims; Sunni versus Shia; Protestants versus Catholics.

Truth is neither a concept nor a mantra as folks have erroneously believed, but it is a Person.  This Person said that:

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life: no man comes to the Father, but by me." (John 14:6 The Evidence Bible).

Paige Patterson commenting on this verse said;

"It comes down to a question of truth.  Every false religious expression is a religion of darkness.  That doesn't mean there are no good things in that faith.  But if Jesus is to be taken seriously when He says, "No one comes to the Father but through Me," every other proposal is one of darkness."

Iyineda:

Tolerance is a better remedy to the truth in this case because it accepts differences without having to agree/adopt them.

I believe that GudFolk has addressed this issue already.  I would rather be loved and respected than to be tolerated.



"Suffering from truth decay? Brush up on your Bible."

This is what 'am talking about.

GudFolk:

CLARIFICATION: "Our problem with humans is to identify which scenario will be natural? All three in my opinion. Which is moral. All three. If humans are secular and do NOT believe in an afterlife, then cannibalism is very practical, since survival on earth is the only life worth living for secular humans. Killing is also natural for them, since morality has no basis in secular practicality of survival".

Before "TheHomer" accuses  me of being impractical. Cannibalism is only practical when it ensures the survival of one human at the expense of a competitor human. Since biologically, two males are redundant, it is perfectly acceptable in a secular society for one male to kill and consume another that second competing to avoid death by starvation. Then the surviving male, now well fed, can seek females in heat to impregnate. It is not practical however, for a human to consume his child, if that child is of an age to survive alone. It is better for the child to consume the parent. ;-)

Are you deliberately doing this?

GudFolk:

Lest I forget, when quoting the Bible, INCEST was normal at that time, since God only created Adam and Eve, so sexual intercourse between parents, and children and even amongst siblings was essential (Incest is also popular in World Mythologies). But incest has biological limitations when practiced over a long period, since such offspring have birth defects after several generations of incest. However, "TheHomer" should support INCEST, since in a SECULAR society encouraging condoms and abortions, the problems of offspring are eliminated. Furthermore, a father and daughter may be in so much love and of consenting age, that this is only natural by "TheHomers" view of nature.

What does incest have to do with the topic at hand? I won't even bother with your allusions to my thoughts.

GudFolk:

Have you heard of "Intolerant Secularism and "Secular Extremism" including violent opposition to religious views?
This is a growing trend and also a strong unifying factor of modern Secularism as practiced in many so-called "Western nations".

Not that I agree with what you've posted above but what does this have to do with anything? Or with secular humanism? Does secular humanism encourage use of violence for "conversion"? What is wrong with secularism? It does not prevent you from holding whatever beliefs you want.

GudFolk:

Have you heard of "Weightism"? This is deliberate discrimination based on somebody's weight even when irrelevant like a behind-the counter sales rep in a beauty shop.

http://www.cswd.org/docs/faq.html

And what does this have to do with anything I posted? You were referring to athletics if I recall correctly.

GudFolk:

"Intolerant Atheism and Secular Extremism" as the modern secular "isms" of hatred and intolerance, including the persecution of religious individuals and groups by former Colonials.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169145/Religion-hatred-Why-longer-cowed-secular-zealots.html?ITO=1490
http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=166832

What do you mean by intolerant atheism? Are you now wondering why atheists refuse to be silent and be herded out of sight for their opinions?

GudFolk:

Evidence of American commercial exploitative Sexual-colonialism and "Mark of the Beast" (as if it was not the colonial White-men who tagged Africans "savages" because of traditional African sexual appetites including polygamy, a crime in USA):
Courts in the USA pressured ICANN to finally operate the .Bleep Domain Names for sex addicts,  something European colonials initially banned :-(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10412765.stm

So what is the relevance of this to the topic at hand? Also, nobody is going to control your fingers to type in the addresses. If you want to visit them that's your problem. For your information, there are numerous tools out there to block access to such sites if you feel so strongly about porn, then use them.

GudFolk:

And finally, I do not take Biblical stories at face value, but I also expose evolution in nature as always preferring large majorities over tiny minorities, even if 10% of mammals are homosexual.

Oh you don't take them at face value? How do you take them?
This really makes me laugh. What do you actually mean by evolution "always preferring large majorities over tiny minorities"? I hope you know that it is populations of species that evolve.

OLAADEGBU:

mazaje and thehomer are the next best persons to answer that question.

Awww If you're feeling left out, I know of some priests that can help you out of your misery. 

OLAADEGBU:

It is not just about homosexual people but their behaviour. I believe all immoral behaviour should be taken care of in the constitution which I believe is based on the Bible. What Obama is doing is to change the landmark and make what is an abomination to be acceptable and this is why America is committing political harakiri with its legislation.

I notice how you did not answer the question. Also, how do you decide what is immoral? Mind you you're just the president not the emperor or the king.

OLAADEGBU:

Not only gays but all those who don't trust God's Word. It should not surprise you that most of the folks supporting this declaration are atheists and agnostics who do not want the absolute truth of the Word of God to guide them.

What absolute truth of the "Word of God"?

GudFolk:

The affairs of other nations concern AMERICA so much, that the have a list of countries targeted for covert CIA operations.

Well many countries actually have these lists it's not unique to the U.S.

GudFolk:

The USA has even shamelessly, declared  the use of taxpayers money to support NGOs that actively promote homosexuality in Africa.

Please present some good evidence for this?

GudFolk:

Furthermore, if the Homafia were not intent on forcing their deviant lifestyle on the majority of God-fearing people, they would be content with legislation that protects all human beings against violence. Instead the Homafia wants special (a) "Gay Pride" parades, instead of (b) "Godly atonement against unnatural homosexual tendencies". Note, both address the same issue but one glorifies deviance, while the other seeks divine guidance and atonement.

Who is this "Homafia" that you've coined? You really do not understand the importance of a secular government. You really should think about the implications of the government of a powerful country being led by theocrats.

GudFolk:

QUESTION to TheHomer and Mantraa?
Are Transgendered men normal in physically mutilating their bodies to give the illusion they are female? Is it not better for them to accept themselves as gay men instead of forcefully trying to become female?

Before I even begin to attempt to answer your question, I think you should read up on the various intersex states currently "created" by your God. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
You also don't seem to understand how gender develops. It's more than simply being born looking like the member of a particular group.

OLAADEGBU:

Those who know the implications of this declaration will certainly be concerned for their children who are being taught that this behaviour is natural and normal just as we are seeing the result of the teaching of evolution in the lives of kids growing up who are now having an evolutionist worldview.

No one is making the children homosexual. Also remember that homosexuals are born to heterosexual parents.
Maybe the children being taught evolution is because the Theory is scientifically sound.

OLAADEGBU:

No one is saying that they don't have the right to live the way they want and they should not be discriminated against, what we are saying is that the Government doesn't have the right to enforce it on others to accept it as a normal and natural behaviour.

No one is forcing you to accept anything. If you are not gay then live your life. Just let others live their own lives too.

OLAADEGBU:

Scientists have discovered that children brought up in such an environment have a high percentage of depression because of such confusion. Why should children be subjected to such deviant acts in the name of equality. Even 5 year olds are now being taught forcefully by the use of dolls to accept that it is another form of a family life.

Hold on there. I think you need to present some good evidence for these statements you're attributing to "scientists". I notice how you're quick to defer to "scientists" when you think a result supports whatever you currently believe.

OLAADEGBU:

. . .
I believe that GudFolk has addressed this issue already.  I would rather be loved and respected than to be tolerated.

. . .

Oh you would? Are you ready to love and respect homosexuals, transvestites and prostitutes, among others?

The biblical law that olaadegbu follows states that homosexuality is a crime, and the punishment is execution by stoning.

@olaadegbu
If you were president of the usa would you pass a law to make homosexuality a crime? And if so,what would be the sentence that you would like to see given to people who break that law? Would it be the death sentence? public flogging? or prison?