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Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by blueflame1: 1:39pm On Jul 03, 2010
youngay:

I want to thank all who have seen football as not do or die and for not seeing fifa as God.i swear other country will take example from us.what have we achieve playin since this years ? Nothing but sadnes.abeg fifa do your worst .when is premier league starting make i watch beta ball

I pray for u that Joe or his equivalent wherever u r does not ban premiership teams from Arsenal down since they have not achieved anythin in the past 5yrs.
Since u like fiat
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by Princek12(m): 1:53pm On Jul 03, 2010
The amount of people who have supported this ban shows that Nigeria's problem is its people, and not just the leaders. Majority of the people think just like the leaders: they have a good intent for a change but lack don't take the proper steps in effectuating that change, and don't think about the repercussions of the proposed steps. Jonathan as clearly shown he has no regard for the rule of law, and all these people are supporting him because it appears to be seemingly in their favor.

When this same Jonathan now bans the internet and cable TV and cell phone from cos from operating because there is some corruption somewhere, or when he starts to act like Abacha by arresting and killing people without following the rule of law, then you guys will start crying. Jonathan is showing the qualities of a dictator like Abacha and Babangida.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by beeke(m): 2:02pm On Jul 03, 2010
Is FIFA an organization or a maffian group or a cult or something
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by blueflame1: 2:05pm On Jul 03, 2010
beeke:

Is FIFA an organization or a maffian group or a cult or something

Is Nigeria the only country in Fifa? Why is it that no other country is complaining about Fifa or asking silly questions whether fifa is a mafia etc etc.
What is so hard about abiding by simple rules statutes and procedures that were laid down befor u joined an organization?
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by blueflame1: 2:09pm On Jul 03, 2010
Princek12:

The amount of people who have supported this ban shows that Nigeria's problem is its people, and not just the leaders. Majority of the people think just like the leaders: they have a good intent for a change but lack don't take the proper steps in effectuating that change, and don't think about the repercussions of the proposed steps. Jonathan as clearly shown he has no regard for the rule of law, and all these people are supporting him because it appears to be seemingly in their favor.

When this same Jonathan now bans the internet and cable TV and cell phone from cos from operating because there is some corruption somewhere, or when he starts to act like Abacha by arresting and killing people without following the rule of law, then you guys will start crying. Jonathan is showing the qualities of a dictator like Abacha and Babangida.

Right on point. It is the little things like this that tell us the mentality and real desires of the people. After all a wise man said a country deserves the leadership it gets, cos it is from amongst the people the leaders emerge. I always though it didnt apply to naija, now i know better.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by Princek12(m): 2:22pm On Jul 03, 2010
blueflame1:

Right on point. It is the little things like this that tell us the mentality and real desires of the people. After all a wise man said a country deserves the leadership it gets, cos it is from amongst the people the leaders emerge. I always though it didnt apply to naija, now i know better.

I always thought the same, too, that it was a fluke that incompetent leaders became presidents of Nigeria. This issue has opened my eyes to see that an appreciable amount of Nigerians think like the leaders, they decide to take a step without evaluating each and every possible ramification of the  proposed step, and whether such steps will be counterproductive on the long run.

I am yet to see how Jonathan has stated any articulable procedures to revive the NFF that made it necessary to take this drastic action.  All he stated was that it was necessary. There is no transparency at all. At least he would have started by charging them with corruption, making sure he followed the rule of law. This  Jonathan may not even know the meaning of rule of law.

I still can't see why you suspend the teams of U 17, U 20, U23, both men and women, because the Super Eagles did not advance past the first round. The corrupt people who caused the problem are walking free while the budding youths who participate in sports will suffer because of Lulu's acts.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by Princek12(m): 2:35pm On Jul 03, 2010
honeric01:

I have watched you type false details for a while now, but now i am ready to burst your bubbles, how is it possible for government to probe a body that has sovereignty to the laws of the land at which they dwell? DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE MEANS?

Probing anyone from the NFF by the government is seen as government interference by FIFA whichever way you look at it.

FIFA wants the NFF to be the sole body that regulate and judge anything that concerns football in the country, either to probe themselves or not, its left for the NFF members alone and nothing else.


Now tell me, A GOVERNMENT THAT FUNDS THIS BODY IS NOT SEEN AS AN INTERFERER BUT A GOVERNMENT THAT DECIDES TO CLOSE DOWN THIS BODY IS SEEN AS AN INTERFERER, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARD IS BEING MAINTAINED BY FIFA?.


NFF can not survive on its own, it relies on the government, so this kind of body cannot be said to be independent of the government if it cannot survive financially on its own without government pumping in millions of nairas.

Cite the FIFA rule and give me a historical precedent of when the law enforcement of a country investigated corrupt football officials (especially those who stole money allocated by the country in which they sit and money allocated by FIFA themselves) were adjudged  by FIFA to have interfered with football.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by blueflame1: 2:44pm On Jul 03, 2010
Princek12:

Cite the FIFA rule and give me a historical precedent of when the law enforcement of a country investigated corrupt football officials (especially those who stole money allocated by the country in which they sit and money allocated by FIFA themselves) were adjudged  by FIFA to have interfered with football.

Fifa interference refers to despotic decisions like the one jonathan took. It does not refer to probing of corrupt officials of the FA or sending them to jail for corruption using the laws of the land.

And that is what we expect Jonathan to do, we would rather see the culprits Lulu and co in jail than the national team and all footballing activities banned for 2yrs while lulu enjoys his loot and cosy's up to the politicians for another appointment in future
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by honeric01(m): 2:44pm On Jul 03, 2010
Princek12:

Cite the FIFA rule and give me a historical precedent of when the law enforcement of a country investigated corrupt football officials (especially those who stole money allocated by the country in which they sit and money allocated by FIFA themselves) were adjudged  by FIFA to have interfered with football.

Stop jumping the gun, i hope you read my post very well? and i hope you saw all the questions right?

Now kindly do me a favor, answer my questions accordingly.

Start with what you understand by the word "interference"
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by nateevs(m): 2:45pm On Jul 03, 2010
Prince




Maybe u want to have a discussion. This could be lengthy but we'll get somewhere.
Since u think the decision is wrong, what do u propose?
No long statements, let's take the issues one after another.

What should GJ have done?
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by honeric01(m): 2:49pm On Jul 03, 2010
blueflame1:

Fifa interference refers to despotic decisions like the one jonathan took. It does not refer to probing of corrupt officials of the FA or sending them to jail for corruption using the laws of the land.

And that is what we expect Jonathan to do, we would rather see the culprits Lulu and co in jail than the national team and all footballing activities banned for 2yrs while lulu enjoys his loot and cosy's up to the politicians for another appointment in future

You yourself do not even understand what you are typing.

Jonathan just used the laws of the land by withdrawing Nigeria from associating with FIFA, the law of Nigeria includes that we have freedom of association and dis-association. How's that an interference?

Is joining FIFA a permanent association? is FIFA  a cult or what? i just don't understand how some Nigerians reason.

By the way, you cannot probe and arrest any NFF officials without interfering into the running of NFF
MANY PEOPLE STILL DO NOT KNOW WHAT INTERFERENCE MEANS. sad sad sad
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by shoboy9: 2:52pm On Jul 03, 2010
It would be better if Jonathan banned Jamborees by politicians during the W/C. And frivolous spending by the nff. Even better to ban politician from nigerian football for 2years!
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by blueflame1: 2:55pm On Jul 03, 2010
honeric01:

You yourself do not even understand what you are typing.

Jonathan just used the laws of the land by withdrawing Nigeria from associating with FIFA, the law of Nigeria includes that we have freedom of association and dis-association. How's that an interference?

Is joining FIFA a permanent association? is FIFA  a cult or what? i just don't understand how some Nigerians reason.

By the way, you cannot probe and arrest any NFF officials without interfering into the running of NFF
MANY PEOPLE STILL DO NOT KNOW WHAT INTERFERENCE MEANS. sad sad sad

A criminal charge is a criminal charge and if sani lulu murders someone u wont say he shouldnt be tried for murder, it is childish rascality that would make an adult say a criminal charge on the NFF board members would be seen as interference.

Most importantly no proponent of this ban has offered to explain how the ban would improve our game. I guess if ur brother is sick u would suggest he is shot dead to cure him of his sickness so as to be well
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by nateevs(m): 3:09pm On Jul 03, 2010
blueflame1:

Most importantly no proponent of this ban has offered to explain how the ban would improve our game.

At least it's clear since '94 what has happened when we didn't ban.
Maybe it's time for a radical change.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by cantell(m): 3:30pm On Jul 03, 2010
honeric01:

I have watched you type false details for a while now, but now i am ready to burst your bubbles, how is it possible for government to probe a body that has sovereignty to the laws of the land at which they dwell? DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE MEANS?

Probing anyone from the NFF by the government is seen as government interference by FIFA whichever way you look at it.

FIFA wants the NFF to be the sole body that regulate and judge anything that concerns football in the country, either to probe themselves or not, its left for the NFF members alone and nothing else.


Now tell me, A GOVERNMENT THAT FUNDS THIS BODY IS NOT SEEN AS AN INTERFERER BUT A GOVERNMENT THAT DECIDES TO CLOSE DOWN THIS BODY IS SEEN AS AN INTERFERER, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARD IS BEING MAINTAINED BY FIFA?.


NFF can not survive on its own, it relies on the government, so this kind of body cannot be said to be independent of the government if it cannot survive financially on its own without government pumping in millions of nairas.

Gbam! Gbam!
In my opinion, best comment so far.
You just made the list of my best posters.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by Princek12(m): 3:32pm On Jul 03, 2010
honeric01:

Stop jumping the gun, i hope you read my post very well? and i hope you saw all the questions right?

Now kindly do me a favor, answer my questions accordingly.

Start with what you understand by the word "interference"

How am I jumping the gun? You said" probing anyone from the NFF by the government is seen as interference," and I told you to cite me any historical precedent when FIFA has said that it is an interference when a law enforcement agency, [b]not the president or any direct member of the executive branc[/b]h, probes its football officials for stealing money, some of which is allocated by FIFA themselves. At least we know that the last time when Nigeria, and recently Togo, withdrew the Eagles form ACN, it was declared an interference. Investigating for stealing FIFA  and national funds is not interference

You can only talk without proof.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by Nobody: 3:35pm On Jul 03, 2010
[size=28pt]Finally, Nigeria bans FIFA[/size]

By Ikeddy ISIGUZO, Chairman Editorial Board

YEARS of FIFA’s deceit has finally caught up with it in its relations with Nigeria, a country that FIFA treats with the lowest standards when it matters in implementing its statutes. For decades, Nigerians have appealed for FIFA to intervene in government’s wholesale administration of football in Nigeria.

FIFA hid behind its fingers, refusing to admit that Decree 101 that ran Nigerian football from 1992 and still exists as a Nigerian law was interference. In summary, this law says the Minister of Sports has the final say in administration of football in Nigeria.

It might just be the law that the Minister of Sports could rest on in effecting the changes that the Federal Government want in Nigeria football. FIFA lived with this law for 18 years and cannot suddenly reject it.

Concerned Nigerians cried to FIFA about this. The same Sepp Joseph Blatter, whether as Secretary-General or FIFA President knew about Decree 101. What did he do then?

Talks of FIFA banning Nigeria or expelling it from football have been on the lips of corrupt, incompetent and lazy football administrators whose only response to charges that they should lead the country through better standards has been to wave the FIFA ban as if this country cannot survive without football.

FIFA is unconcerned about the incompetence of the Nigeria Football Association represents. It remains deaf to allegations of theft of public funds, money that belongs to Nigerians. FIFA is not bothered that the NFA wantonly disregards the same Statutes that FIFA claims government is violating when it asks the NFA operates with a measure of decency.

Does FIFA know how much the Nigerian government spends (wastes) on football annually? Does it know that the NFA refuses to democratise its operations?

Would FIFA say it has not received complaints that the State Football Associations in Nigeria are not elected but appointed contrary to Article 21 (5) of the NFA Statutes.

According to Article 21 (5), “State Executive Committee: a) Each State Football Association shall be composed of twelve (12) persons, four (4) elected from each senatorial district made up as follows: Chairman, 2 Vice Chairmen, 9 Ordinary Members b) All the above officers shall be elected at the Annual General Assembly of the State Football Association”.
No State meets these  criteria as State FAs are appointed, not elected, and do not reflect the geo-political and democratic opportunities of the NFA Statutes. The NFA Board which FIFA recognises, apparently based on the Statutes, is inherently illegal. Complaints to FIFA about these matters are ignored, probably an indication of the opaque way FIFA operates.

Corruption and a huge does of incompetence have ruined Nigerian football. FIFA encouraged the ruination of Nigerian football over the years by refusing to pay attention to the complaints that flowed regularly into its offices in Zurich. Its concern over Nigeria, in this instance, is that a proper investigation of the comatose state of the game in Nigeria would indict FIFA.

Right from the cases of over-aged players that NFA officials promote, to the scandals of thefts and undemocratic tendencies, FIFA would issue warnings that government was interfering.

By our laws, the Nigerian government can ask the NFA to account for public money it spends. FIFA calls this interference. The $8 million earned for qualifying for the World Cup is not NFA’s money, it belongs to Nigerians who expect that the NFA should account for it. FIFA also sees this as interference.

Was FIFA not embarrassed by the poor standards of local organisation that attended the FIFA U-17 Championship in Nigeria last year under the superintendence of the NFA? What did it do about the construction of pitches that floated at the drop of the rains? Or the low quality of services availed the teams?

Blatter and his colleagues in Zurich might not have heard that the competence of the NFA led Nigeria to pay a fine of $125,000 for breaching accommodation contract in South Africa for the Eagles. Why did FIFA not query Nigerian officials for ignoring its official World Cup hotel for the Eagles?

FIFA says the NFA election should go ahead, as usual, ignoring complaints about policies that the NFSA adopted to exclude other contestants from the polls. Some of the measures were the deadlines set for the collection and submission of forms, all of which were to be concluded while the responsible football officials were in South Africa for the World Cup. FIFA rated the brazenness of this move adequately democratic.

The Federal Government should be more far reaching in implementing this decision. Measures to ensure that football is better organised must be effected in the two year duration. One area that should get attention is the re-structuring of the system for players to access the national teams, especially the junior teams, which should be nurseries, but which corrupt NFA officials fill with men on the verge of retirement.

It is expected that at the end of the self ban, Nigerian football would have improved. Hopefully too, FIFA should have cleansed itself of interference, through negligence, of Nigerian football.

Threats of expulsion from FIFA should not stop the Federal Government from rescuing Nigerians from the vice grip of a football administration that is so soaked in incompetence that it gleefully led Nigeria to its worst Nations Cup performance in 26 at the 2008 edition in Ghana and while it was at it, its Chairman ensured that his posters were pasted in Kumasi.

Nigerians surely deserve better standards of football administration than the mediocrity that FIFRA supported over the years with Decree 101.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by cantell(m): 3:50pm On Jul 03, 2010
@PrinceK12,
If the Nigerian government can probe lulu and his cohorts,why use a ban instead?
This shows that those guys in NFF are unstoppable and the only thing that can get to them is a ban from the govt.
If EFCC investigates them, fifa will still see it as an interference.
They are just like ambassadors with unlimited immunity.
Any probe from the Nigerian govt can still result to a ban from fifa.
So this is a lose-lose situation.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by Princek12(m): 4:03pm On Jul 03, 2010
cantell:

@PrinceK12,
If the Nigerian government can probe lulu and his cohorts,why use a ban instead?
This shows that those guys in NFF are unstoppable and the only thing that can get to them is a ban from the govt.
If EFCC investigates them, fifa will still see it as an interference.
They are just like ambassadors with unlimited immunity.
Any probe from the Nigerian govt can still result to a ban from fifa.
So this is a lose-lose situation.

The right thing to do would have been to start by probing Lulu, for that would have put the world on notice of the corruption, and the whole world would have seen that Nigeria is attempting to clean itself but for FIFA's intervention; it is safe to say that Jonathan is the one jumping the gun, and he banned Nigeria before FIFA banned us, a clear interference. Also you have not shown me any situation in history where FIFA has said investigating football officials who stole money by the appropriate authority (not the president) is interference. Please show me, don't tell me.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by Iceugwa(m): 4:31pm On Jul 03, 2010
FIFA you have no right to ban us. cos we love the ban on the national team
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by neuro: 5:33pm On Jul 03, 2010
1. It is the inalienable right of FIFA to administer world football as dictated by its rules which are ratified by all members including Nigeria.
2. It is the inalienable right of Nigeria to take whatever steps she thinks would better position her football. The step may be right or wrong.
3. In the context of FIFA rules, the decision of NIgeria may be seen as an offence. That does not make FIFA a vilain, mafia, or demigod. Rules are rules. You cannot disobey rules EVEN when you think or know you have good intentions
4. If Nigeria thinks FIFA rules are unreasonable, then she is free to opt out. Not all the countries of the world belong to FIFA
5. In any case, flouting FIFA rules is seen as an indirect notice of withdrawal from the body, hence the suspension till a country comes back.
6. If you have a problem, then all country members of FIFA should change FIFA rules, not kill Sepp Blatter and his guys who only enforce the rules made by country reps in FIFA
7. If we are sure that the FG's decision is s right one, AND sure also that FIFA ban would not be detrimental, why not? FIFA suspension might just be the sacrifice to pay for progress. BUT if we are not sure, then something might go wrong, very very wrong
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by blueflame1: 5:36pm On Jul 03, 2010
neuro:

1. It is the inalienable right of FIFA to administer world football as dictated by its rules which are ratified by all members including Nigeria.
2. It is the inalienable right of Nigeria to take whatever steps she thinks would better position her football. The step may be right or wrong.
3. In the context of FIFA rules, the decision of NIgeria may be seen as an offence. That does not make FIFA a vilain, mafia, or demigod. Rules are rules. You cannot disobey rules EVEN when you think or know you have good intentions
4. If Nigeria thinks FIFA rules are unreasonable, then she is free to opt out. Not all the countries of the world belong to FIFA
5. In any case, flouting FIFA rules is seen as an indirect notice of withdrawal from the body, hence the suspension till a country comes back.
6. If you have a problem, then all country members of FIFA should change FIFA rules, not kill Sepp Blatter and his guys who only enforce the rules made by country reps in FIFA
7. If we are sure that the FG's decision is s right one, AND sure also that FIFA ban would not be detrimental, why not? FIFA suspension might just be the sacrifice to pay for progress. BUT if we are not sure, then something might go wrong, very very wrong

Nice one.

On point 2, i am still genuinely beging for an explanation on how self banning would better position our football?
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by Princek12(m): 6:33pm On Jul 03, 2010
nateevs:

Prince




Maybe u want to have a discussion. This could be lengthy but we'll get somewhere.
Since u think the decision is wrong, what do u propose?
No long statements, let's take the issues one after another.

What should GJ have done?


First of all, Jonathan should not have directly involved himself with sports, anyway. He should be focusing on solving our electricity and infrastructure problems
1) Jonathanshould have asked the ministry of sports to set up a committee to investigate the alleged corruption, citing the exact amounts stolen by NFF officials. The committee also should table how the upcoming election will be transparent and how other candidates can run.
2) The ministry of sports should table the result of that investigation to FIFA
3) If there is evidence of alleged corruption, due process should follow.
4) The ministry of sports should make sure the next election NFF election should be transparent.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by nateevs(m): 6:35pm On Jul 03, 2010
No one on the other side really has explained how we could achieve the cleansing of NFF without a radical change.
Instead they've all asked how banning ourselves will lead to improvement.

Maintaining the status quo is destructive. Confirmed.
I'm all up for the ban.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by blueflame1: 6:46pm On Jul 03, 2010
nateevs:

No one on the other side really has explained how we could achieve the cleansing of NFF without a radical change.
Instead they've all asked how banning ourselves will lead to improvement.

Maintaining the status quo is destructive. Confirmed.
I'm all up for it.

No one says u should maintain the status quo, what we r saying is don't ban the national team which would have consequences for our entire football teams including nigerian club football.

We propose prosecution of the entire NFF board members, the presidency has said as much that they have enough evidence.

Is it not worrisome that refusing to prosecute the board members and rather banning the team sounds like there is something to hide? Probably NFF board members singing and implicating those people who r playing saint and singing ban the team?

When they wanted ogbulafor out of the way, they knew how to go about it, he was arrested by the ICPC which led to his resignation, now in the case of the NFF board members what makes it so difficult to arrest them with the EFCC and ICPC

Banning the team actually doesn't even address the problem; ie the NFF board
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by nateevs(m): 7:00pm On Jul 03, 2010
First of all, Jonathan should not have directly involved himself with sports, anyway. He should be focusing on solving our electricity and infrastructure problems


Many presidents have directly involved themselves with sports. It is an issue of national pride. While you may argue that there are more pressing issues, you can't say he is wrong to directly involve himself. Sport is not just a way of entertainment, it is a channel for solving problems of unemployment. Try imagine how many people not directly playing on the pitch could probably be employed if we get it right. Doctors, Physicians, Physiotherapists, Designers, Business men, Administrators, Football agents, Builders, Physical trainers, TV-presenters, Cameramen, Sports Journalists. . . . Need I go on. . . ?

Do you still think Jonathan should not be directly involved?



1) Jonathanshould have asked the ministry of sports to set up a committee to investigate the alleged corruption, citing the exact amounts stolen by NFF officials. The committee also should table how the upcoming election will be transparent and how other candidates can run.

Good idea. What then happens when the proposals are rejected by NFF officials and the status quo is maintained?
Solution.





2) The ministry of sports should table the result of that investigation to FIFA

Great. What action in your opinion do you think FIFA will then take?



3) If there is evidence of alleged corruption, due process should follow.

What is due process? How about the structure of NFF? Who changes that?


4) The ministry of sports should make sure the next election NFF election should be transparent.

The MOS cannot do that. . . . according to FIFA, it's called interference.





Can you see none of your solutions has worked? At least for me. . . How about the dogged fellas in the glass house determined not to relinquish power?

More solutions please.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by blueflame1: 7:11pm On Jul 03, 2010
nateevs:

First of all, Jonathan should not have directly involved himself with sports, anyway. He should be focusing on solving our electricity and infrastructure problems


Many presidents have directly involved themselves with sports. It is an issue of national pride. While you may argue that there are more pressing issues, you can't say he is wrong to directly involve himself. Sport is not just a way of entertainment, it is a channel for solving problems of unemployment. Try imagine how many people not directly playing on the pitch could probably be employed if we get it right. Doctors, Physicians, Physiotherapists, Designers, Business men, Administrators, Football agents, Builders, Physical trainers, TV-presenters, Cameramen, Sports Journalists. . . . Need I go on. . . ?

Do you still think Jonathan should not be directly involved?






1) Jonathanshould have asked the ministry of sports to set up a committee to investigate the alleged corruption, citing the exact amounts stolen by NFF officials. The committee also should table how the upcoming election will be transparent and how other candidates can run.

Good idea. What then happens when the proposals are rejected by NFF officials and the status quo is maintained?
Solution.





2) The ministry of sports should table the result of that investigation to FIFA

Great. What action in your opinion do you think FIFA will then take?



3) If there is evidence of alleged corruption, due process should follow.

What is due process? How about the structure of NFF? Who changes that?


4) The ministry of sports should make sure the next election NFF election should be transparent.

The MOS cannot do that. . . . according to FIFA, it's called interference.





Can you see none of your solutions has worked? At least for me. . . How about the dogged fellas in the glass house determined not to relinquish power?

More solutions please.


Concerning this point u raised

Many presidents have directly involved themselves with sports. It is an issue of national pride. While you may argue that there are more pressing issues, you can't say he is wrong to directly involve himself. Sport is not just a way of entertainment, it is a channel for solving problems of unemployment. Try imagine how many people not directly playing on the pitch could probably be employed if we get it right. Doctors, Physicians, Physiotherapists, Designers, Business men, Administrators, Football agents, Builders, Physical trainers, TV-presenters, Cameramen, Sports Journalists. . . . Need I go on. . . ?

Do you still think Jonathan should not be directly involved?


***********

So in ur wisdom banning the national team and incurring a further fifa ban on all our footballing team would provide jobs for Doctors, Physicians, Physiotherapist, Designers, Business men, Administrators, Football agents, Builders, Physical trainers, TV-presenters, Cameramen, Sports Journalists.

Hmm naija sure has thinkers!
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by nateevs(m): 7:29pm On Jul 03, 2010
blueflame1:

So in your wisdom banning the national team and incurring a further fifa ban on all our footballing team would provide jobs for Doctors, Physicians, Physiotherapist, Designers, Business men, Administrators, Football agents, Builders, Physical trainers, TV-presenters, Cameramen, Sports Journalists.

Hmm naija sure has thinkers!


Emotions running high prevents you lot from seeing the obvious.
The aim is not to ban the national team. The aim is to restructure NFF. . . but you can't touch NFF because of the fear of FIFA's wrath. We will get banned. Why don't we just announce it ourselves and then go ahead and restructure?

Your stance is taking the defensive. I have suggested why JG should interfere.
I dare you to provide a fool proof solution to these problem bearing in mind the obstacles invloved.

You can't come up with any.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by blueflame1: 7:44pm On Jul 03, 2010
nateevs:


Emotions running high prevents you lot from seeing the obvious.
The aim is not to ban the national team. The aim is to restructure NFF. . . but you can't touch NFF because of the fear of FIFA's wrath. We will get banned. Why don't we just announce it ourselves and then go ahead and restructure?

Your stance is taking the defensive. I have suggested why JG should interfere.
I dare you to provide a fool proof solution to these problem bearing in mind the obstacles invloved.

You can't come up with any.

So the only way to restructure the NFF is by banning the national team? Why don't u proponents of restructuring google restructured FA's and learn how numerous countries have successful restructured their FA's in the past. May I add none has done it by banning their national team
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by nateevs(m): 8:03pm On Jul 03, 2010
blueflame1:

So the only way to restructure the NFF is by banning the national team? Why don't u proponents of restructuring google restructured FA's and learn how numerous countries have successful restructured their FA's in the past. May I add none has done it by banning their national team


You still have not offered anything constructive.
You are obviously an arm-chair analyst.
Will you find "How to restructure a football association IN NIGERIA" on google?

You have no clue and have no answers.
Please tell us how you think this can be achieved without banning football.
Just one idea.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by dTouch: 8:26pm On Jul 03, 2010
The amount of people who have supported this ban shows that Nigeria's problem is its people, and not just the leaders. Majority of the people think just like the leaders: they have a good intent for a change but lack don't take the proper steps in effectuating that change, and don't think about the repercussions of the proposed steps. Jonathan as clearly shown he has no regard for the rule of law, and all these people are supporting him because it appears to be seemingly in their favor.

When this same Jonathan now bans the internet and cable TV and cell phone from cos from operating because there is some corruption somewhere, or when he starts to act like Abacha by arresting and killing people without following the rule of law, then you guys will start crying. Jonathan is showing the qualities of a dictator like Abacha and Babangida.

Pray what is "the rule of law" doing here? Nigeria has the unfettered right to or not to play football forever. Nigeria is acting within her rights here. Or can someone educate me on the methods or means by which a nation can tell FiFA it wants to leave the association. Vuvuzelaaaahh, where are you? I need to blow for Germany.
Re: Fifa Give Nigeria 48 Hours Ultimatum To Reverse Ban. by dTouch: 8:48pm On Jul 03, 2010
Dear Nateevs, I have 5 vuvuzelas all playing for you. Most of the "posters" simply have concluded that GJ just woke up one morning and gave the Presidential directive. They also seem incapable of reading the intricacies behind the decision. Can someone please tell me what rule forbids Nigeria from leaving FIFA?

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