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Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by naijaking1: 1:07am On Jul 11, 2010
paddy_lo:

I have asked u before. .If that is the case. .why does Nigeria still attract the largest FDI in Africa
Larger than all those countries on your list?
You have Lekki free trade zone in Lagos with a chinese consortium. . u have NNPC signing Refinery agreements worth $8billion last week with more to come
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and even some Foreign Banks are jostling to Bring in expertise and FDI to purchase some of the banks
see bloomberg link. . . .below
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I didn't say these companies are not in Nigeria, I mentioned Coca-cola as an example. This company has so mch asset overseas, but has a few pitiful bottling companies in Nigeria. Chinese and South African companies vying for business in Nigeria----are you kidding me? America/British/German companies vie for business in undeveloped China and we're just so excited because China is the only business suitor we can attract despite our enormous human and material resources
I beg it reminds me of our president going to seek medical attention in Saudi Arabia while Saudi royalty go to US for their own medical attention. Everything we have now from China could have been x10 better if the environment is made to attract western countries.

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Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by paddylo1(m): 1:30am On Jul 11, 2010
[size=14pt]CBN Governor Misquoted on Banks’[/size]
By Festus Akanbi, 07.11.2010
Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) has dismissed a media report in some national newspapers where its governor, Mallam Lamido Sanusi was quoted as describing Nigerian banks as gambling houses.

A statement signed by the bank’s head of corporate communications, Mohammed Abdullahi yesterday said the CBN Governor, who spoke at the first Distinguished Lecture of Professor Sylvester Monye Foundation in Asaba on Friday, did not make such a statement.
http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=177997

Sanusi Already recanting on banks.  . .sigh
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by naijaking1: 1:53am On Jul 11, 2010
Alleluyiah shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by Ibime(m): 2:15am On Jul 11, 2010
Sensational nonsense. . . . . Sanusi was describing the free for all mago mago in the banks that caused the crisis, thats all.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by naijaking1: 2:42am On Jul 11, 2010
The last sentence of Sanusi's rebutal read:

The statement therefore appealed to the media to de-emphasize sensationalism in their reportage of such sensitive issues that might send wrong signals to the market with negative repercussions on the economy.

I shout Allyluiah again, again, and again.
Unfortunately, Sanusi has not rebuted any of his numerous briefings that show his hostility towards capitalism, and penchant for cheap populism. From shooting CEOs that have not been convicted, to calling them "criminals", to making anti-economic policies for our nation, to flouting his heritage over and above all others, to castigating other ethnic groups, this mallam has never rebutted any of his unguraded statments when Yar'dua was alive, and Sanusi had free reign on running our economy to the ground. Now at least somebody taps him on the shoulder and he returns to press the next day for a rebutal. I say praise God, Allyluiah grin

If you're still blindly supporting every action Sanusi has taken since coming into office, because of this rebutal, be rest assured that as a pathological self-promoting performer, Sanusi will return to make even more embarrasing statements about our economy.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by danidon: 6:27am On Jul 11, 2010
One good attribute of a good leader is to watch whatever comes out from his mouth as a speech. This man was in First Bank as head Risk management and FBN had over N50b bad loans. What is Sanusi talking about self. Whoever or whatever is giving him this power should call him to order. Sanusi cannot analyse the economy or the banks much more than most of us replying to his tantrums. How did he arrive at such a damaging conclusion.
Anyway, its only the halfbaked that will listen to him. Its like he is not yet done with the 8banks he has technically liquidated. Pls join me in asking Sanusi, whose agenda he is acting
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by TMemos: 8:07am On Jul 11, 2010
naijaking1:

The last sentence of Sanusi's rebutal read:

The statement therefore appealed to the media to de-emphasize sensationalism in their reportage of such sensitive issues that might send wrong signals to the market with negative repercussions on the economy.

I shout Allyluiah again, again, and again.
Unfortunately, Sanusi has not rebuted any of his numerous briefings that show his hostility towards capitalism, and penchant for cheap populism. From shooting CEOs that have not been convicted, to calling them "criminals", to making anti-economic policies for our nation, to flouting his heritage over and above all others, to castigating other ethnic groups, this mallam has never rebutted any of his unguraded statments when Yar'dua was alive, and Sanusi had free reign on running our economy to the ground. Now at least somebody taps him on the shoulder and he returns to press the next day for a rebutal. I say praise God, Allyluiah grin

If you're still blindly supporting every action Sanusi has taken since coming into office, because of this rebutal, be rest assured that as a pathological self-promoting performer, Sanusi will return to make even more embarrasing statements about our economy.

The rebuttal of a major statement should not be as simple as this. All the several newspapers that reported the news should rise and defend the integrity of their report. Was the statement by Sanusi not recorded or all of them simply (mis)quoted him? We should know who to (dis)trust going forward: public officials (in this case Sanusi) who retract their statements on sensing public outrage or newspaper houses that just look away when their reports are questioned.

On another note, those who love Sanusi should advise him to seal his lips permanently. I know it's difficult for him to achieve because he loves to hear his own voice (even in places where he had worked before his nickname was 'talk first, think later') but it is possible. i don't know of any office, private or public, where the head of the organisation may choose to talk carelessly, recklessly, and thoughtlessly.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by member479760: 8:47am On Jul 11, 2010
It's only educated Nigerians believe that banking system will work out fine in a country of 150 million people living without electricity. I guess the professor from the bank of England is doing good job.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by Nobody: 9:47am On Jul 11, 2010
Sanusi again?
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by Nobody: 10:13am On Jul 11, 2010
Anybody have idea on what will happen to intercontinental bank ?
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by naijaking1: 4:03pm On Jul 11, 2010
~Bluetooth:

Anybody have idea on what will happen to intercontinental bank ?
The fair action will be to return the bank to the owners, and give then an updated rules and regulations if you will. Our government should not be in the habit of stealing people's business, properties, and concerns, no matter what.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by Ltrust(m): 4:23pm On Jul 11, 2010
What he said might be true but he shouldn't have said to the public in that manner. Does he not know the power of words. This particular statement will surely move the stock market in such a way that certain wise investors would reap some good profit. People interest in Nigerian stock market will wane drastically. He should have sorted these with appropiate authorities.
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Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by adedayoone: 6:03pm On Jul 11, 2010
Erm it seems like everybody thinks we should kill sanusi ?

For identifying that banks were paying their workers more than they could afford

Were giving out loans outside CBN regulations

For pointing out the fact that banks were misinforming their customers and giving them a false sense of security ,

Common whatelse do you want him to do , lets remove sentiments NIGERIAN banking sector was pants before he came in and Soludo just turned a blind eye cos the guy just wanted to make enough money to run for governor .

Yeah FBN had 50bn bad debt, did they make provision for the bad debt from their profit (YES) and am they also followed due diligence when giving out these loans .

Ok maybe the equating to casino seemed a bit overbearing, but honestly how do you classify me waking and realising my stock value is how a third of what it was yesterday.

PS : Foreign nationals come to nigeria not because its stable but because things can easily manipulated and they can get away with just about anything

just my tots
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by olafolarin(m): 6:58pm On Jul 11, 2010
I still don't support foreign take-over of the "troubled" banks because it will end up in capital flight and increase the depression of the local economy.Virgin Nigeria is a good example.
The banks should be allowed to increase their liquidity,pay up their debts and get rid of toxic Loans in their books.if after these,they're still "gasping",strong local banks can be encouraged to completely buy them over.
This will enforce cut-throat competition in the industry as weak banks will be easily consumed by the stronger ones and the
banking public/economy will be better for it.
Since capital injection some banks have done so well with increased liquidity and rosy balance sheet.Such banks should be left off the hook.Unless Sanusi has ulterior motives which will detrimental to the economy.
His unguided and outrageous comments is not good for the healing economy.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by 080Nigeria(m): 9:18pm On Jul 11, 2010
Sanusi keeps getting me annoooooooooyed. His policies are totally anti-capitalism and seem to be directed more towards popularizing him than making a change. He should just shut up! tongue embarassed lipsrsealed undecided
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by HIROSHI: 11:28pm On Jul 11, 2010
The biggest problem of this Sanusi guy is his mouth. His mouth is faster than his brain! That is why he would talk, regret it and issue a rebuttal.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by rethink: 11:46pm On Jul 11, 2010
@post

You know it is very funny when we see people jump on the throats of our leaders, when our leader make statements that are factual. In our civil psychology we are made to believe that some people are born to squander our monies and given awards for doing so.

Bank managers have so much power and blatantly misuse the trust of the populace when discovered it should be covered because of investors confidence? It is like your son fails an exam and you pay money for him to be moved to the next class because you dont want him to feel shamed.

You know we can all lie about the banking industry in Nigeria and deceive the world to invest in Nigeria but when the investors come back for their money the truth will come, then the hard line Mr Sanusi is taken would be a small fry compared to what would happen.

I will give you a little history, back in the 80s when we were supposed to invest massively power sector we failed to do so. People did not pay light bills, we were eating the power cake then about 20 years later we are reaping the benefits of our sins. What we would have used 10 billion dollars to do we now have to spend 30 billion dollars. If Ghana or S.Africa was in Darkness you think SOME Nigerians would care?

To build trust and repentance the truth must be told publicly.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by AjanleKoko: 12:27am On Jul 12, 2010
CBN in today's punch put out an advertorial on this, denying Sanusi ever said so, and claiming the man was quoted out of context. undecided

Unfortunately it's not online, being an advertorial. But I have the print. Maybe I'll scan later today and post online.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by naijaking1: 12:28am On Jul 12, 2010
rethink:

@post

You know it is very funny when we see people jump on the throats of our leaders, when our leader make statements that are factual. In our civil psychology we are made to believe that some people are born to squander our monies and given awards for doing so.

Bank managers have so much power and blatantly misuse the trust of the populace when discovered it should be covered because of investors confidence? It is like your son fails an exam and you pay money for him to be moved to the next class because you dont want him to feel shamed.

You know we can all lie about the banking industry in Nigeria and deceive the world to invest in Nigeria but when the investors come back for their money the truth will come, then the hard line Mr Sanusi is taken would be a small fry compared to what would happen.

I will give you a little history, back in the 80s when we were supposed to invest massively power sector we failed to do so. People did not pay light bills, we were eating the power cake then about 20 years later we are reaping the benefits of our sins. What we would have used 10 billion dollars to do we now have to spend 30 billion dollars. If Ghana or S.Africa was in Darkness you think SOME Nigerians would care?

To build trust and repentance the truth must be told publicly.

I was going to ask, 'what's your point', then I noticed that your so-called class in psychology forgot to teach you that TRUTH IS RELATIVE. What seems true to Sanusi may not be true to other economists and bankers.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by bidemi12(m): 12:34am On Jul 12, 2010
A few years back a friend of mine described the nigerian stock exchange in the exact words that sanusi just did. most nigerians have wallowed in corruption for too long to realize the damage that the stock exchange has done. i dont think most posters even read what he said about the stock exchange. it is so easy for a group of people to pull resources together set up a dummy company convince a bank to back them, (which is easy considering that an individual owns 40-50% of the bank) find a stooge in the stock exchange, go on air and advertise for the sale of shares to gullible nigerians claiming millions in return. After a few months post ridiculous profits with nothing paid out as dividend and after a while announce the company has gone under meanwhile boys don chop. Funny thing is what i have described has happened time and time again but nigerians with their amnesia cannot and will never remember. NIGERIANS I HAIL THEE.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by smooooooth: 12:37am On Jul 12, 2010
only in 9ja will someone make a statement like this and still be the governor of the CBN.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by paddylo1(m): 1:38am On Jul 12, 2010
A few years back a friend of mine described the nigerian stock exchange in the exact words that sanusi just did. most nigerians have wallowed in corruption for too long to realize the damage that the stock exchange has done. i dont think most posters even read what he said about the stock exchange. it is so easy for a group of people to pull resources together set up a dummy company convince a bank to back them, (which is easy considering that an individual owns 40-50% of the bank) find a stooge in the stock exchange, go on air and advertise for the sale of shares to gullible nigerians claiming millions in return. After a few months post ridiculous profits with nothing paid out as dividend and after a while announce the company has gone under meanwhile boys don chop. Funny thing is what i have described has happened time and time again but nigerians with their amnesia cannot and will never remember. NIGERIANS I HAIL THEE.

Its your responsibility as an investor to do your due diligence before you invest your money. . .

If u refuse to invest in blue chip companies like JULIUS BERGER,GUINESS,DANGOTE CEMENT,OANDO,NESTLE,NIGERIAN BREWERIES,GTB and so on

then u deserve to loose all your money

After all on the NYSE there are plenty penny stocks

some even backed by your uncle sam(America),have gone bankrupt and had to be de-listed. . ie fanny mae and freddy mac
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by paddylo1(m): 1:44am On Jul 12, 2010
only in 9ja will someone make a statement like this and still be the governor of the CBN.

Not necessarily,In most developed/developing country the CBN is independent and sometimes the Governors do make statements that are not favorable to the GOVT in power. .
For example one of the heads of the FED in America last week criticized OBAMA and congress for bringing uncertainty into the american economy with their legislative agenda

Now in Nigeria Obasanjos reforms made the CBN independent,with the CBN act

It is very difficult to remove a CBN Governor(it needs 2/3rds of congress and so on)

It is actually a good thing as it helps to stop GOVT interference with the CBN

Its just that the person nominated to the post this time is just too eager to shoot his trap and play to the gallery. .

Like someone said earlier perhaps he is filling that his prayer kettle with hard liquor instead of water. . . cool
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by bidemi12(m): 2:40am On Jul 12, 2010
paddy_lo:

[b]Its your responsibility as an investor to do your due diligence before you invest your money. . .

If u refuse to invest in blue chip companies like JULIUS BERGER,GUINESS,DANGOTE CEMENT,OANDO,NESTLE,NIGERIAN BREWERIES,GTB and so on

then u deserve to loose all your money

After all on the NYSE there are plenty penny stocks

some even backed by your uncle sam(America),have gone bankrupt and had to be de-listed. . ie fanny mae and freddy mac[/b]



With no technical analysis at our disposal (charts and graphs) or fundamental analysis (news), how in God’s name can we “do due diligence” before we invest?. Like is said I do not think people are actually comprehending all that sanusi is saying.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by paddylo1(m): 2:46am On Jul 12, 2010
With no technical analysis at our disposal (charts and graphs) or fundamental analysis (news), how in God’s name can we “do due diligence” before we invest?. Like is said I do not think people are actually comprehending all that sanusi is saying.

I dont know where u reside but there is fundamental /Technical analysis for most Nigerian blue chip companies if u do your research well

I am in the USA but i follow company news on CNBC Africa and businessdayonline.com
and i get charts of specific companys from various websites e.ghttp://www.proshareng.com/news/index.php?id=8154

Again its your money,if u dont take care of it well,dont go blaming others
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by bidemi12(m): 3:00am On Jul 12, 2010
paddy_lo:

I dont know where u reside but there is fundamental /Technical analysis for most Nigerian blue chip companies if u do your research well

I am in the USA but i follow company news on CNBC Africa and businessdayonline.com
and i get charts of specific companys from various websites e.ghttp://www.proshareng.com/news/index.php?id=8154

Again its your money,if u dont take care of it well,dont go blaming others


Bros I have just checked out the site that you posted? Where is the technicals to back the fundamentals there? And don’t tell me that the yeye graphs shown there can help you make a decision on what to invest in. You cannot have one without the other. That is impossible. What you have there is what sanusi is talking about; a group of people/organisation posting what could be true as well as untrue with no way to filter out either one. I do not invest in any company in Nigeria nor ever will. I am not a gambler. I am okay with my[b] TSP’S[/b]
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by paddylo1(m): 3:52am On Jul 12, 2010
Bros I have just checked out the site that you posted? Where is the technicals to back the fundamentals there? And don’t tell me that the yeye graphs shown there can help you make a decision on what to invest in. You cannot have one without the other. That is impossible. What you have there is what sanusi is talking about; a group of people/organisation posting what could be true as well as untrue with no way to filter out either one. I do not invest in any company in Nigeria nor ever will. I am not a gambler. I am okay with my TSP’S

where do u do your technical analysis on in america. . .do u do them on public websites?

Do u know how to use a bloomberg terminal?. . .Import charts and do your own home work?

Dont u know u need special software if u are a serious trader?

I know there is yahoo finance and all that but no serious trader does TA on public websites pls. . .

In Nigeria there are hedge funds,Finance companies that do detailed research u can pay for

There are analysts that follow all these companies

stop talking about something u know little about. . .Keep your money no one is begging u to invest

Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by paddylo1(m): 3:57am On Jul 12, 2010
@Bidemi12

Heres the Nigerian all share index on bloomberg u can do a little more with it. . .bottom line get yourself a bloomberg terminal. . import your charts and do your DD
No one gives out detailed free info anymore

[url]http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/cbuilder?ticker1=NGSEINDX%3AIND[/url]
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by bidemi12(m): 4:10am On Jul 12, 2010
paddy_lo:

@Bidemi12

Heres the Nigerian all share index on bloomberg u can do a little more with it. . .bottom line get yourself a bloomberg terminal. . import your charts and do your DD
No one gives out detailed free info anymore

[url]http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/cbuilder?ticker1=NGSEINDX%3AIND[/url]

If only you knew. wink
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by rethink: 7:44am On Jul 12, 2010
@Naijaking


This is not an academic work. Peoples lives are affected by very criminal decision the managers make. Should because we want FDI tell the whole world lies? Yes we lied a lot to ourselves and we failed in the areas we did.

I know we can lie about everything under the earth to seem it good but We have conscience and our children to pass on this lie to. The "rich" of Nigeria want to seem untouchable.

Touch a senior Soldier selling arms to the enemies of Nigeria , he is off the hook
Touch a governor that stole money, goes to Court and seeks a Perpetual injuction
Touch the Children of wealthy , They will reward their kids by Foolishly sending them abroad to study "Nothinglogy"
Touch the Bank Manager , They will go on medical treatment in Dubai or be chilling with girls with private peoples money
Touch the Bank officials, They bring news on the newspaper about the Authority that is trying to correct the wrong.
Touch the Ex Army Generals, They will begin to recruit civlians into small groups(militants) that they use for bunkering and later oil well aquisition.

The children of the poor live in a place called the truth. Their imagination is limited because those that God appointed to give them hope are squandering the monies and opportunities.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by naijaking1: 8:04am On Jul 12, 2010
^^^
Please understand one thing clearly: I don't support corruption or criminal behaviours in public or even private company officers, and certainly not among bankers.
Wouldn't it be a tragedy of great dimension if at the end these accused bank CEOs are found innocent of crimes as alleged by Sanusi. The only reasonable thing I make is "don't execute anybody before you convict them, prosecute them, investigate them"

For more than one year now all we've heard is from Sanusi, and how some people have looted the banks, how the banks are unsafe, and how the heaven would have crashed if he had not been appointed just on time. We have never heard the other side of the story from the accused bank CEOs. These are populist messages that only go so far, we need realistic messages to correct the mess in our financial industry.

When Sanusi started, he said the CEOs were the problems, then he fired the directors too, then the shareholders who invested their last kobo in these institutions became to blame for putting their money into the risky Nigerian stock market, then the minimium wage bank workers were blamed and laid off for working in banks bloated by excess manpower.

If you care about our children and their future, you should be very worried about where Sanusi's personal, religious, and ethnic philosophies are leading our economy.
Re: Sanusi Hits Banks Again: Calls Them 'Gambling Centers' by odedele: 8:17am On Jul 12, 2010
When cadbury had problems few years ago and was declared insolvent, the regulatory agency in the foods and beverages sector did not think ackwardly like Sanusi is now thinking towards forcefully taking over this company. Neither was any form of forced loan given as a bait which under an aggrement decided by CBN and its self imposed management was converted covertiously into equity stakes in these banks.
I bought intercontinental banks IPO at #13:50k, BPHP at #17:00k, Oceanic bank at >#14;00 and it would be cheating of the greatest order if CBN forcefuly spoils business for shareholders of all these companies only to acquire the shares at between #0:50k – #1:00k.
This is called cheating, lunacy and madness from infidels who are bent on not retracting their steps.
I urge all shareholders of all these banks to begin to file a law suit against the regulatory agencies suing heavily for damages for compounding the woes of these companies pending the preposition of rights issues.
In the first place, CBN and NDIC should have given the shareholders of these banks the opportunity to remove the managements and re-capitalize their institution before thinking of this unjust aggressive takeover. The way and manner the regulatory bodies CBN and NDIC has managed this issue is a good sign of unprofessionalism, evil agenda plan among other biased and selfishly connoted reasons.

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