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Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by LordReed(m): 7:15pm On Jan 29, 2019
If the god HATES child sacrifice?

Deuteronomy 12:30-31 New International Version (NIV)
30 and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.” 31 You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.

So it decides that the best way to test its loyal servant is to ask him to do something the god hates to see if its loyal servant will obey a thing the god hates? And then rewards the servant for attempting to do the thing the god hates? How does this make sense?

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by frankman365(m): 7:24pm On Jan 29, 2019
You wanna know why? Almost everything is in the Bible, just read very carefully

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CreepyBlackpool: 7:35pm On Jan 29, 2019
The bible has always been contradictory, especially the old testament.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by Nobody: 7:44pm On Jan 29, 2019
Because he's a manipulative sociopath.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by malvisguy212: 8:04pm On Jan 29, 2019
LordReed:
If the god HATES child sacrifice?

Deuteronomy 12:30-31 New International Version (NIV)
30 and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.” 31 You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.

So it decides that the best way to test its loyal servant is to ask him to do something the god hates to see if its loyal servant will obey a thing the god hates? And then rewards the servant for attempting to do the thing the god hates? How does this make sense?
let me ask you this. if Abraham decided to sacrifice Issac on his own. will God accept his sacrifice ?
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 8:05pm On Jan 29, 2019
God tests and doesn't tempt. He proved Abraham was a faithful servant. It is the devil who tempts by leaving or allowing them to do the actual killing.
James 1:13-14. God tempts no one but all are tempted by their desires.

There is a saying : a man with no opportunity yet calls himself an honest man. God presents an opportunity for man to act out his real subconscious plans without hurting anyone and see man's reaction.

God could have allowed Abraham to go ahead with the killing to prove Abraham was loyal but only tested him far enough to see his choice ( obedience or disobedience ). on the contrary, devil is totally out to make as many parents slaughter their bright children and doesn't say no except when God exempts the victim.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by malvisguy212: 8:09pm On Jan 29, 2019
James 2:21-23 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 8:14pm On Jan 29, 2019
malvisguy212:
let me ask you this. if Abraham decided to sacrifice Issac on his own. will God accept his sacrifice ?
No.
As a matter of fact no man will sacrifice his son ordinarily out of reverence or as voluntary unprovoked worship for a supernatural being. That's the last thing a man will do and those who do it, do it for power, money, or something they desperately want from dark sources. God tests and doesnt tempt. James 1:13-14.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jan 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:
No.
As a matter of fact no man will sacrifice his son ordinarily out of reverence or as voluntary unprovoked worship for a supernatural being. That's the last thing a man will do and those who do it, do it for power, money, or something they desperately want from dark sources. God tests and doesnt tempt. James 1:13-14.
And God was testing him to prove what exactly? Why does God need to "test" if he already knows the outcome?

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 8:24pm On Jan 29, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
Because he's a manipulative sociopath.
Open a thread with account A and reply with account B.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 8:27pm On Jan 29, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:

And God was testing him to prove what exactly? Why does God need to "test" if he already knows the outcome?
1.) Faithfulness.
2.) He tested him to prove it and recorded it in His word ( bible ) for you and I.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by tintingz(m): 8:32pm On Jan 29, 2019
Because he's a confused maniac.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by LordReed(m): 8:40pm On Jan 29, 2019
malvisguy212:
let me ask you this. if Abraham decided to sacrifice Issac on his own. will God accept his sacrifice ?

I imagine that the god that says it hates child sacrifice would not.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by Nobody: 8:57pm On Jan 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:

1.) Faithfulness.
2.) He tested him to prove it and recorded it in His word ( bible ) for you and I.
Makes no sense. When we hear "God", we know what it means. God has nothing to prove that we don't know already
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by LordReed(m): 8:58pm On Jan 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:
God tests and doesn't tempt. He proved Abraham was a faithful servant. It is the devil who tempts by leaving or allowing them to do the actual killing.
James 1:13-14. God tempts no one but all are tempted by their desires.

There is a saying : a man with no opportunity yet calls himself an honest man. God presents an opportunity for man to act out his real subconscious plans without hurting anyone and see man's reaction.

God could have allowed Abraham to go ahead with the killing to prove Abraham was loyal but only tested him far enough to see his choice ( obedience or disobedience ). on the contrary, devil is totally out to make as many parents slaughter their bright children and doesn't say no except when God exempts the victim.


So to you it makes sense to test Abraham with a practice the god declares it hates? And the god expected Abraham to comply?

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MJBOLT: 9:00pm On Jan 29, 2019
why would an omniscient being test someone?

CodeTemplar:

1.) Faithfulness.
2.) He tested him to prove it and recorded it in His word ( bible ) for you and I.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 9:03pm On Jan 29, 2019
LordReed:



So to you it makes sense to test Abraham with a practice the god declares it hates? And the god expected Abraham to comply?
It makes perfect sense.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by sonmvayina(m): 9:06pm On Jan 29, 2019
It is not an actual story or a literal one.. It is to reach us the fact that God does not accept human sacrifice only animal..... That why he provided the ram...
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 9:09pm On Jan 29, 2019
MJBOLT:
why would an omniscient being test someone?

To test and prove that person faithful. God still test men till this day but in less dramatic ways to prove them wrong. A brother who has never handled large money in church may say he can never be tempted to steal. but God knowing him more than him may present a brief opportunity for him to handle money and show him he is capable of such. That doesn't mean God tempted him but he tested him and he failed. Remember He is the moulder and able to mould one vessel to honour and another to dishonour.
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by Nobody: 9:20pm On Jan 29, 2019
How an all-knowing God will test someone still baffles me. Don't he already know the outcome?

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by LordReed(m): 9:31pm On Jan 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:
It makes perfect sense.

How?
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 9:35pm On Jan 29, 2019
LordReed:


How?
It shows Abraham was willing to be the first man to obey God on a new instruction. It is all about faith and obedience.
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by LordReed(m): 9:38pm On Jan 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:

1.) Faithfulness.
2.) He tested him to prove it and recorded it in His word ( bible ) for you and I.

Recorded it more than 400years after the fact?
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by LordReed(m): 9:41pm On Jan 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:
It shows Abraham was willing to be the first man to obey God on a new instruction. It is all about faith and obedience.

That doesn't answer the question of how the god giving an instruction to do something it hates and expecting compliance makes sense.
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 9:52pm On Jan 29, 2019
LordReed:


That doesn't answer the question of how the god giving an instruction to do something it hates and expecting compliance makes sense.
You appear to lack comprehension either on purpose or out of lack of capacity. I have answered you to the best I can and if I think of a better way to put it, I will do just that.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 9:54pm On Jan 29, 2019
LordReed:


Recorded it more than 400years after the fact?
Yes. That proves it was a deliberate demonstration meant to reprove and correct those the book ( Bible ) was addressed to - mankind.
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by LordReed(m): 10:00pm On Jan 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:
You appear to lack comprehension either on purpose or out of lack of capacity. I have answered you to the best can and if I think of a better way to put, I will do just that.

And you lack the capacity to reason yourself out of a wet paper bag. Go, think then come and answer when you've engaged enough braincells.
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by LordReed(m): 10:03pm On Jan 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:
Yes. That proves it was a deliberate demonstration meant to reprove and correct those the book ( Bible ) was addressed to - mankind.

You don't even have record of your progenitors going back 100 years yet you believe the account of someone written down what apparently took place 400years before he was born? LMFAO!

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by malvisguy212: 10:53pm On Jan 29, 2019
LordReed:


I imagine that the god that says it hates child sacrifice would not.

" they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as
sacrifices to their gods."

surly God hate child sacrifice . Abraham was only doing the RIGHT thing.
malvisguy212:
James 2:21-23
Was not our father Abraham considered
righteous for what he did when he offered
his son Isaac on the altar? You see that's
his faith and his actions were working
together, and his faith was made complete
by what he did. And the scripture was
fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God,
and it was credited to him as
righteousness,” and he was called God’s
friend.
LordReed:


I imagine that the god that says it hates child sacrifice would not.

" they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as
sacrifices to their gods."

surly God hate child sacrifice . Abraham was only doing the RIGHT thing.

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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CreepyBlackpool: 11:38pm On Jan 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:
To test and prove that person faithful. God still test men till this day but in less dramatic ways to prove them wrong. A brother who has never handled large money in church may say he can never be tempted to steal. but God knowing him more than him may present a brief opportunity for him to handle money and show him he is capable of such. That doesn't mean God tempted him but he tested him and he failed. Remember He is the moulder and able to mould one vessel to honour and another to dishonour.

Prove to whom exactly
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 3:06am On Jan 30, 2019
LordReed:
If the god HATES child sacrifice?

Deuteronomy 12:30-31 New International Version (NIV)
30 and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.”
31 You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.

So it decides that the best way to test its loyal servant is to ask him to do something the god hates to see if its loyal servant will obey a thing the god hates? And then rewards the servant for attempting to do the thing the god hates? How does this make sense?
"2Joshua said to all the people, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says:
‘Long ago your ancestors, including Terah the father of Abraham and Nahor, lived beyond the Euphrates River and worshiped other gods.
3But I took your father Abraham from the land beyond the Euphrates and led him throughout Canaan and gave him many descendants. I gave him Isaac
"
- Joshua 24:2-3

Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child?

Before answering the question, let's acknowledge and get a few things into perspective first
1/ Abram, before becoming Abraham, was a worshipper of idols, an idolater, in short.
2/ Child sacrificing to these idols was a common and prevailing practice then and Abram was accustomed to it
3/ Deuteronomy 12:30-31 was formalized 400 years plus after the historic Abraham's near-sacrifice of his son Isaac
4/ It is a well known historical and documentated fact that Abram tithed in line with the prevailing Mesopotamia custom to tithe
Artifacts shows and testifies to heathens practice of tithing. Like few other things, tithing was a status quo, same as child sacrifices and/or ritualistic killing of children with Abraham then.

People then and even to date, are doing detestable things God hates and they really, are things, deserving intense dislikes. They are, things like, people believing that by performing child sacrifices and/or carrying out ritualistic killing of children they are pleasing or appeasing the god(s). Off track, another is, performing ritual sex acts, allegedly to get blessings, where males offer themselves as temple prostitutes to patrons for sacred sexual rituals purpose(s) believing they will receive divine blessing, favour, power etcetera at the end or back of it. Anyway back on track, from the slight diversion, so the reason why God told Abraham to sacrifice his child, funnily and ultimately enough, is to end the disgusting, foolish and senseless child human sacrifice practice.

A new Sheriff is in town, a new Person has come to power, the new Person has come into Abraham's life and is going to make changes. This new authority figure in Abraham's life, is taking charge, laying down the rules and letting Abraham know that the line on child sacrifice(s) is drawn. Sure Abraham was tested, to see, if he will carry out the command but fact is, God, from the word, go, and on principle, disagrees with the practice and so, we have it that, ultimately did not allow the sacrifice to happen and so the experience, presented Abraham with the knowledge, the understanding and the discernment that God is not into the business of child sacrifices nor into ritualistic killing of children, done supposedly by those looking for wealth, riches, fame and power or done to curry divine favour from these wicked and cruel acts

Many wont see the wood for the trees, as "test loyal servant... ask him to do something the god hates" is a red herring. It doesnt have to make sense to mortals, God is more sensible than the most sensible ever lived or living man

HenryDion:
How an all-knowing God will test someone still baffles me. Don't He already know the outcome
He does already know the outcome HenryDion, but does the testee know?

Self-discovery, is finding oneself, its taking the journey within, discovering who you truly are and finding out all the mystries that lies within you. Abraham, from that experience, got to know and learned many lessons that day.

"A wise man, can learn more from a foolish question, than a fool, can learn from a wise answer."
- Bruce Lee
cc CodeTemplar, tintingz,

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