raumdeuter:


Marcelo himself said it was a penalty. And Marcelo is a footballer who was on the field and can give us a more reliable account than those sitting in supersport

elrony:


Is Marcelo a certified referee?

Why not blame the stadium for your loss too

raumdeuter:


Marcelo was the one on the field who handled the ball, He is a pro football and confessed it was a penalty

Skimpledawg:

I'm waiting on you

raumdeuter:


This is the translation from reddit

Translation of what he says:

Journalist: At one point it looks like the ball hits your hand.

Marcelo: Yeah, it does, it hits my hand.

Journalist: So it's a penalty, then?

Marcelo: Well, if it hits my hand, I think so, but - right, you know that for a long time I haven't spoken about referees. Many times, referees have made mistakes against us... and now, I can't just come and talk about the referee again, because... when the referee makes a mistake in our favour, I'm not going to talk. I could see it coming [a bit unclear to me what he means here: either the question, that he'd be asked about it, or the referee making a mistake in their favour] - that's right.

brief cut in the interview and then he continues

It is what it is. The referee - it's hard, right, 'cause there's lots of players in front of him and so on, well - if I tell you it didn't touch my hand, I'm a liar.

Nihilstjnr:


like I said

"I think so" is not the same as "it's a definite pen"

ball to hand bro

A40:
Nihilist and Elrony are just trolling. They know better

See the penalty Liverpool just conceded at the death. Was it ball to yansh? Marcelo's offense was far more grevious but a sensible ref knows ball to hand can also be PKs especially in Marcelo's case

usbcable:

Roma was denied a more clear penalty call than the one given.

Eruditor:


Roma knocked out Barca but is it 2011 Barca or 2015 Barca they knocked out? Are they all the same?

That RM team beat Barca in the CDL final. Competed for the league till the last game of the season then won the UCL beating ATM 4-1. The last year's RM won the league and UCL. This RM gave up on the league since, crashed out of the cups since and decided to give EVERYTHING to the UCL.

Summarily, in their waning days, with 2 managers we heard will beat them, RM still knocked out Bayern.

Ibime:


You talk as if Bayern of 2018 is anything remotely close to Bayern of 2014. Bayern of 2014 were arguably the best team in the world. Half that team won 2014 World Cup, they were back-to-back UCL finalists, defending UCL Champions and the most dominant UCL team with a peak Robbery, Muller, Kroos and the world's best 2 fullbacks at the time.

If Pep can disgrace Bayern of 2014 and Heynckes can play so well with Bayern of 2018, then we should all know who the fraud is.

A40:
That's besides the point. Strictly speaking this foul was not as egregious as Marcelo's and any ref that could not see it from that range has no business officiating games of that magnitude.

A40:
Mueller was a low key wasteman in this tie. He used to be our X-Factor in ties like this but these days he's just an X and a no-factor.

They should just give Kimmich the armband till Neuer returns. That boy is a lion! He and James are the only guys I really felt bad for in this tie

Ibime:


You talk as if Bayern of 2018 is anything remotely close to Bayern of 2014. Bayern of 2014 were arguably the best team in the world. Half that team won 2014 World Cup, they were back-to-back UCL finalists, defending UCL Champions and the most dominant UCL team with a peak Robbery, Muller, Kroos and the world's best 2 fullbacks at the time.

If Pep can disgrace Bayern of 2014 and Heynckes can play so well with Bayern of 2018, then we should all know who the fraud is.

Lordave:
A40 once said there was a time Alaba used to be better than Marcelo but someone disagreed.

Lordave:
A40 once said there was a time Alaba used to be better than Marcelo but someone disagreed.

Ibime:


He probably still is. Marcelo is only good going forward.

Lordave:
I think Tolisso and Thiago deserve some credit too, they worked their ass off, many interceptions.

We would have won the match only if Ribery knew when to pass the ball.

monerozi5590:
Ibime, Why is Mercelo always on the FIFA FIFpro World11 if Alaba is probably still better than him just like you said?

Ibime:


He deserves it as Madrid keep winning UCL and Marcelo has produced some fantastic attacking returns in those victories. If Bayern were winning UCL, Alaba would be the one recognised

However as a coach, I would never pick Marcelo over Alaba because Alaba attacking is also good but they are not mates in defending.

You can ask Brazil coaches more about that.

Ibime:


He deserves it as Madrid keep winning UCL and Marcelo has produced some fantastic attacking returns in those victories. If Bayern were winning UCL, Alaba would be the one recognised

However as a coach, I would never pick Marcelo over Alaba because Alaba attacking is also good but they are not mates in defending.

You can ask Brazil coaches more about that.

monerozi5590:




Iniesta, Alves, Neymar are all in FIFA FIFpro in 2017 eleven. None won the UCL. Why is Alaba case different?

Eruditor:


Marcelo is only a casualty in the grand scheme of things. Who he is really trying to call out is Pep. Whenever Pep loses, he had the best players and lost. Whenever he wins, he had the best players and won. So don’t be offended.

Everybody who breathes knows Marcelo is out and out the best LB in the world.

Eruditor:


Marcelo is only a casualty in the grand scheme of things. Who he is really trying to call out is Pep. Whenever Pep loses, he had the best players and lost. Whenever he wins, he had the best players and won. So don’t be offended.

Eruditor:


Marcelo is only a casualty in the grand scheme of things. Who he is really trying to call out is Pep. Whenever Pep loses, he had the best players and lost. Whenever he wins, he had the best players and won. So don’t be offended.

Everybody who breathes knows Marcelo is out and out the best LB in the world.

raumdeuter:


You really get am, Alaba that has been pants for almost 5 seasons now is suddenly better than Marcelo.

In a few years time he will tell us Sane and Sterling were better than Martial and Alexis before they got to Pep

You no see last night suddenly the ibime who claimed Pep is now playing with team on the same level is now crying that by adding Walker and Ederson to his first 11, Pep has a much better team than those who added Matic Lukaku Sanchez, Aubameyang-Lacazette-Miktaryan, Morata-Rudiger-Christensen-Bakayoko

I am a Bayern fan, give me Marcelo today and I will give you Alaba plus 40M

Ibime:


How does what you typed here even make sense vis-a-vis Alaba and Marcelo?

sinizia:


I don't think Pep had anything to do with Ibime's choice of Alaba over Marcelo. You're just reading way too much meaning into a debate.

I agree with Ibime and as a coach also, I'll pick Alaba over Marcelo any day, any time. I'm not saying Marcelo is not good, but defensive wise, Alaba is better for me. Marcelo is very attack minded (attacks more than Alaba for me), but defensively, not so much. Madrid don't have the best defence, there main saviour is their attack and midfield.

With Alaba, I'm getting the best of both worlds - attacking and defending.

With Marcelo, I'm getting the best of one world - attacking.