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Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 8:56pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Thanks for calling me a Pig and a Dog , no problem . Never think for one second that I am angry with you or anyone here for that matter, why you should imagine such a bizarre thing is truly baffling and shows your state of mind. That's what too much brainwashing in deeperlife has done to you ! Anyway , back to my point , can you kindly help me with the questions asked : 1. how many Faces do we have here 2. how many Backs do we have here 3. how many Hands do we have here |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:14am On Sep 28, 2012 |
frosbel: Na you talk am o. If Jesus Christ said it and you claimed it then the problem is yours. frosbel: Are you really saying that you are a pig that gets angry when taught how to sing? frosbel: Back to the point I made earlier. The Words of our Lord Jesus Christ is fresher than tomorrow's newspaper: "Give not that which is holy to the dogs, neither cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." -- Matthew 7:6 1 Like |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 10:20am On Sep 28, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: And this is your response , lol. It shows the spirit behind your Christianity, does not resemble that of Christ. Like David said you are a Pharisee hypocrite and I am here to make sure you do not sell you wicked brand of Christianity. |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:43am On Sep 28, 2012 |
Three-in-Oneness in the Godhead: Scriptures indicate there is three-in-oneness in the godhead. In Matthew 28:19, the bodily resurrected Jesus instructed the disciples, Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19). The word name is singular in Greek,thereby indicating God’s oneness. However,the definite articles in front of Father, Son and Holy Spirit (in the original Greek) indicate they are distinct personalities, even though there is just one God. These distinct personalities relate to each other. The Father and the Son, for example, know each other (Matthew 11:27), love each other (John 3:35), speak to each other (John 11:41-42). The Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus at His baptism (Luke 3:22), He is called another comforter or helper (John 14:16), He was sent by the Father and Jesus (John 15:26), and He seeks to glorify Jesus (John 16:13-14). A Simple Analogy A helpful analogy of the Godhead is that God is like a triangle that is one figure yet has three different sides (or corners) at the same time. So there is a simultaneous threeness and oneness. Of course, no analogy is perfect since in every analogy there is a similarity and a difference. The difference here is that "sides" or "corners" are not persons. Nonetheless, the triangle does illustrate how there can be threeness and oneness at the same time. While there is one God, there are three persons within the One God. QED . |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:53pm On Oct 05, 2012 |
Daily Manna 04.10.12 A Perfect Unity TEXT: JOHN 5:17-31 "Then Jesus answered and said to them, Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner" (John 5:19). It is common knowledge that most people believe in the existence of God. They differ however in the mode of fellowship with Him. While some worship inanimate objects, others commune with either angels or notable old testament characters. But the scripture is clear in that God gave His only begotten Son (Jesus). Our text reveals a deep truth in the relationship between God and Jesus Christ. The divine Father - Son relationship is a perfect model of unity in plurality of persons. Jesus claims equality with God in works, resurrection power, judgment, honour, giving eternal life, self-existence, deed and power over death and destiny. As God has made all things including the Sabbath, so is Jesus the Lord of the Sabbath. God has committed all things into the hands of Jesus. Why then would men confess the power of God and yet deny Christ, His Son? The Scriptures say unto Him belong all power; authority and dominion. It would not be logical to confess the power of God and at the same time disregard the Lordship of Christ, who is the power of God unto salvation. God has given us His Son Jesus, that all things may be done and fulfilled through Him. He manifests the mercy, love, righteousness, justice and nature of God. Our aspirations can then be fulfilled in Him because the Father "sheweth Him all things that Himself doeth . . ." (vs. 20). The spiritually dead in sin can receive life because Christ has life to give. Those who hear His voice and receive Him are translated from the depth of sin to the life of righteousness. They face no more condemnation but everlasting life. Let us live to honour Christ and not despise Him. We are called to keep His commandment and do His will. To despise Him is to reject God. The Psalmist affirms in Psalm 9:17 "The wicked shall be turned into hell and all the nations that forget God." It is time to accept Him as the Son of God. Thought for the day: "Knowing God is believing in Christ Jesus" For Details . . . 1 Like |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by ijawkid(m): 6:07pm On Oct 05, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: . While there is one God, there are three persons within the One God. QED . Now that's confusion @ its peak...... Ola how far....how u dey?? |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:09pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
ijawkid: It may be confusing to you because you have closed your mind to the reality of the truth, but God has revealed Himself in His creation so that you will have no reason to plea ignorance to His divine nature. "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20). |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:43pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
The Raging Seas October 6, 2012. "Thou rulest the raging of the sea: when the waves thereof arise, thou stillest them." (Psalm 89:9). There are few things in nature more fearsome or more uncontrollable by man than a mighty storm at sea. Only the One who created the waters of the sea can really control them. But He can! "For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof . . . . He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still" (Psalm 107:25, 29). One of the most striking demonstrations of the deity of Christ was in a storm on the Sea of Galilee when "he arose, and rebuked the wind and the raging of the water: and they ceased, and there was a calm" (Luke 8:24). Note also the experience of the mariners sailing to Tarshish when they realized that the storm that was about to destroy them had been sent by the God of heaven because of Jonah. "So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea: and the sea ceased from her raging" (Jonah 1:15). The Scriptures also compare opponents of the gospel to a raging sea. "The wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt" (Isaiah 57:20). Similarly, Jude says that apostate teachers are like "raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame" (Jude 13). Christ used this same figure to prophesy the turmoil of the ungodly nations of the world in the last days. "There shall be . . . upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring" (Luke 21:25). But just as God the Creator can calm the raging waves of the ocean, so God our Saviour can speak peace to the nations and calm each troubled soul. As our text assures us, He rules the ragings of every sea and stills them when the waves arise. HMM For more . . . . |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 10:25am On Oct 08, 2012 |
The Unknowable God The Trinity Doctrine is impossible to understand, yet understanding our relationship to God is central in gaining salvation and understanding many other gospel doctrines. In fact the Bible tells us that our very eternal life depends on knowing HIM. John 17: 3 - And this is life eternal, that they might KNOW thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Bottom line, the 3-in-one monster conjured up by the Trinity is an unknowable being. The Trinity is confusion, and that is NOT of God, but of the devil.(See 1 Cor. 14: 33) Honest theologians and priests will even admit that there is no way to "understand" the Trinity. They will argue that the mortal mind cannot grasp it but only "comprehend" some of it, but even that is a stretch when the scripture states that our very eternal life depends on KNOWING Him. I also believe that if there was one doctrine that we should fully understand, it SHOULD be the one about the character and nature of God, and that he'd be a mean son of a gun to give us no way of understanding this very basic and important aspect of the gospel. If you know anything about the history of the Nicean council, you also know that the framers of this gibberish themselves actually knew that what they were outlining was incomprehensible. That leads you to another problematic question... If the theologian/writers of the Trinity KNEW it was beyond the understanding of men. Then, as MEN, how do they know that they got it right in the first place? That leads us to the final part of the argument. The lack of spiritual evidence that this doctrine is accepted by God. As I have argued, this is a key doctrine that is pivotal to understand which touches most if not all other gospel principals and doctrines, yet there is no evidence of spiritual manifestations, or any kind of confirmation by the spirit for the conclusion of Nicea. Again, anyone who takes time to read and study the history of the Nicean Creed will be struck by the strictly political atmosphere of the whole event--thats it. If you take your examples from the Bible you will notice that most all of the major events in scripture were attended by angels, had manifestations of the Holy Spirit, or miraculous happenings of some sort or another. Yet at Nicea, none of the attendants reported angels appearing, cloven tongues of fire, or even a simple voice from heaven. Everything went off like a session of congress with everybody trying to please the Roman Emperor. If this IS a pivotal doctrine, why wouldn't there be SOME record of a miraculous occurance that could be pointed to as acceptance by God? So there you have it. I think these common sense reasons are valid and very strong against the Trinity being a true doctrine. I believe that most Christian Churches of the day have accepted it simply because it is a tradition. If you can argue against any of this, I'd love to hear it. |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:40am On Oct 08, 2012 |
They are without excuse. |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:23am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Jesus Has the Names of God Jesus Christ is God, not with inverted commas, but the very God of the very God. His name is Yahweh. |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 11:36am On Oct 08, 2012 |
frosbel: The Unknowable God No sensible person would waste their time arguing against excuses. |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:43pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: Remember the adage by John Paul Getty who said: "Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 12:46pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
God's word clearly says he is ONE. You and the Catholics have divided him into three, this is heresy. Let me show you some little glimpse into the catholic church's thought on this matter , direct from the Vatican web site. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p2.htm 234 The mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is the mystery of God in himself. It is therefore the source of all the other mysteries of faith, the light that enlightens them. It is the most fundamental and essential teaching in the "hierarchy of the truths of faith".56 The whole history of salvation is identical with the history of the way and the means by which the one true God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, reveals himself to men "and reconciles and unites with himself those who turn away from sin".57 [size=13pt]This is the catholic trash you want us to believe in.[/size] |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:58pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
frosbel: "You believe that there is one God; you do well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" (James 2:19). If you claim to have faith but refuse to believe in God's revealed Word even when He reveals it through His Creation you faith is dead. frosbel: I'm not here to defend Roman Catholic doctrine. The doctrine of the Bible which can be clearly seen by those who believe speaks for itself. The Trinity In Creation |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 1:04pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
^^^ You are a catholic , trust me. |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:02pm On Oct 09, 2012 |
frosbel: ^^^ Of course I am catholic - the universal Church, the Body of Christ. |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:30pm On Oct 11, 2012 |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:49pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:58pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 6:03pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:10pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:02pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Objection 4. |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:41pm On Oct 23, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:56pm On Oct 23, 2012 |
Jesus Has the Names of God OLAADEGBU: |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:39pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Jesus Has the Names of God OLAADEGBU: |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:28pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Jesus Has the Names of God OLAADEGBU: |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Boomark(m): 7:10pm On Jan 31, 2013 |
Ola, this will help you understand the meaning of "Godhead," so that you stop drawing triangle for us to describe it. Boomark: Godhead |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:10pm On Apr 12, 2013 |
Jesus Possesses the Attributes of God Jesus possesses attributes that belong only to God. |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:17am On May 08, 2013 |
Greater Than Jesus? "If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28) Three times previously in this chapter, the Lord had affirmed His equality with God the Father. The first occurred in verse one: "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me." No man could utter these words, but the Lord Jesus is the God-man. He was and is on a full equality with God the Father. And then, "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" (v.9). Seeing the Lord Jesus is seeing the Father. Finally, Jesus said (v.23), "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." The "we" in this verse places Jesus on an equality with His Father. What, then, does our text mean? How can the Father both be "greater than" Jesus and also on an equality with Him? How are we to understand this truth? At this time, Christ’s state of humiliation for us was one of utter humiliation. He would soon be ridiculed, nailed to a cross, left hanging on it—naked, and forsaken by God. His Father, therefore, was indeed "greater than" Jesus at that time because He, the Father, was in heaven’s glory. Jesus, God’s divine Son, by way of contrast, was on earth—soon to become glory. After the resurrection, however, the Father gave to His Son the name "which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow. . . . And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" (Philippians 2:10,11). The "greater than" issue ended when Jesus returned to be with His Father in heaven’s glory. PGH For more . . . . |
Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Sunglow: 5:20am On Jun 30, 2013 |
kola oloye: All these your analysis A=C is your own conclusion.Jesus never called himself God. All your quotations from the book of Colossians is just like what you are trying to proof that if A=B and B=C then A=C. The writers statement was not confirmed either by Jesus or any of the Apostles. You can see the confirmation of what I was telling you by the Lord himself . He,Jesus, referred to God as my father in heaven.Jesus is not the Jehovah. Nobody can kill the Almighty God.He cannot be crucified for the sins of the people he created. Before we proceed kindly give me the scripture in the entire Bible where Jesus called or confirmed himself as Jehovah.Jesus is God,4 he said i and my father are one.He who have seen me have seen d father.wen u get 2 heaven who do u think u wil see sitting on d throne?Jesus off course! |
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