IronGalaxy:
the Czech Republic is not exactly a developing country

They aren't but they are suffering economically plus they are racist as well.

Think of them in Russian contexts.

Naija's aren't really bothering them. They just hate the site of dark skin.

morpheus24:


They aren't but they are suffering economically plus they are racist as well.

Think of them in Russian contexts.

Naija's aren't really bothering them. They just hate the site of dark skin.

ok

Tumbulum:
I believe that the southern part of the country can live together and succeed. They could form their own country and be successful. Even though Yoruba's and Igbo's seems not to like themselves which stems from our political differences, these two groups hardly fight themselves. These two groups can reach an agreement and adhere to it. These two most importantly believes in negotiations. They share similar values,believes in education, values humans lives and are generally peaceful. Cut off the North from the south and see an accelerated development of the south.

The Yoruba and Igbo are just as unrelated as with the Hausa. Remember the problem is not really the Hausa but the Fulani. The problem is not just Islam but political Islamic ideology being driven from the Fulani caliphate. The Fulani control the Hausas and Northerners with extreme Islam whose values is at variance with those of development. The Fulani aspirations of islamic conquest contradicts the development needs of the Hausas and aspirations of the other Nigerians.

You need to understand how religious hegemony works. You will always have willing tools who see being used as religious obligation. Therefore the Fulani controls the north and the country by extention and do everything they want, at the same time not officially held accountable for them. With this they can even sabotage and destroy the country when the interest of the people doesn't accord with their conquest agenda. This is the problem. Theoretically, if the north wants to end 70% of its problem, they need a revolution that will disband the caliphate, the emirate and Fulani Sunni extremism. Enthrone moderate Islam and Hausa traditional system.

Like I said if that is done you would see the Hausa is just as different as the Yoruba to an Igbo. The Hausa is also peaceful and doesn't kill, they love to learn, they love to see foreigners live and build their land. This was what Fulani took advantage of to conquer them and destroy their land. The Hausas can only fear the so called Igbo domination but they neither hate nor jealous the Igbo the way Yoruba's do.

Igbos envy no one but Yoruba's envy the Igbos. Envy is a dangerous thing and Yoruba's have it. a Yoruba may not have the liver to kill physically but can incite killings out of envy. They need Igbos in their land but still envy and hate them. This is a situation which defies logic. This is why Yoruba's are the only people that want the republic of southern Nigeria and not their own independent homeland. This is for those who dare to support separation as most of them prefer a united Nigeria no matter the odds.

Everyone knows Biafra is the political aspiration of Igbos. Nigeria is breaking into Three.

morpheus24:


1.The Fulani's brought Islam into the country which added to the already strong cultural differences between the North and the South, creating a much more conservative religious way of life in the North compared with the much more liberal and progressive society in the South.

2. Nigeria has two many ethnic groups concentrated in one area that never had the opportunity to merge naturally into smaller less ethnic- diverse states. South Africa on the other hand emanate from the more or less the same founder populations and are therefore more linguistically and culturally similar to one another, coupled with facing a similar enemy mitigated the issue of Tribalism.


3. I do believe Nigeria needs to separate between North and South amicably as the South has a more better chance of integration with its varying groups as they have done naturally through the centuries. Its not a definite that the South will survive but the odds are far better.

The Fulani didn't bring Islam into the North, they brought radical Islam. moderate Islam had been in existence in the north centuries before the Dan fodio conquest. It was brought by individual Hausa merchants. There were Hausa Islamic scholars before Dan fidio conquest. Dan fodio only used radical Sunni Islam as a religious back up tool for Fulani conquest.

Noneroone:
The Fulani didn't bring Islam into the North, they brought radical Islam. moderate Islam had been in existence in the north centuries before the Dan fodio conquest. It was brought by individual Hausa merchants. There were Hausa Islamic scholars before Dan fidio conquest. Dan fodio only used radical Sunni Islam as a religious back up tool for Fulani conquest.

The style in which Islam that was brought into Northern Nigeria is no different to the style used when brought into the magreb Caliphate style so whether there were lonely merchants who transversed the sahel and the sahara, learnt about Islam and came back to Hausa lands is not really relevant. The Population in the north were majority Pagans.

morpheus24:


Illogical argument.

Premise 1. Nigerians are Killed in Nigeria.

Premise 2. Nigerians are Killed in South Africa

Conclusion; Because Nigerians are killed in Nigeria, therefore there is nothing wrong with them being killed in South Africa.


Please try again!

The fact of the matter is that what is happening in South Africa is just drop on the ocean compared to what is happening in Nigeria.

morpheus24:


Not the whole world, just developing countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, India and South Africa who are unfortunate to get the lower stock of Nigerians.

Developed countries no send us, in fact they don't have time for us at all. We are practically invisible because of their large economy and potentials to absorb immigrants.

But why can't Nigerian sit at Nigeria and stop bothering other countries.

Noneroone:
The Yoruba and Igbo are just as unrelated as with the Hausa. Remember the problem is not really the Hausa but the Fulani. The problem is not just Islam but political Islamic ideology being driven from the Fulani caliphate. The Fulani control the Hausas and Northerners with extreme Islam whose values is at variance with those of development. The Fulani aspirations of islamic conquest contradicts the development needs of the Hausas and aspirations of the other Nigerians.

You need to understand how religious hegemony works. You will always have willing tools who see being used as religious obligation. Therefore the Fulani controls the north and the country by extention and do everything they want, at the same time not officially held accountable for them. With this they can even sabotage and destroy the country when the interest of the people doesn't accord with their conquest agenda. This is the problem. Theoretically, if the north wants to end 70% of its problem, they need a revolution that will disband the caliphate, the emirate and Fulani Sunni extremism. Enthrone moderate Islam and Hausa traditional system.

Like I said if that is done you would see the Hausa is just as different as the Yoruba to an Igbo. The Hausa is also peaceful and doesn't kill, they love to learn, they love to see foreigners live and build their land. This was what Fulani took advantage of to conquer them and destroy their land. The Hausas can only fear the so called Igbo domination but they neither hate nor jealous the Igbo the way Yoruba's do.

Igbos envy no one but Yoruba's envy the Igbos. Envy is a dangerous thing and Yoruba's have it. a Yoruba may not have the liver to kill physically but can incite killings out of envy. They need Igbos in their land but still envy and hate them. This is a situation which defies logic. This is why Yoruba's are the only people that want the republic of southern Nigeria and not their own independent homeland. This is for those who dare to support separation as most of them prefer a united Nigeria no matter the odds.

Everyone knows Biafra is the political aspiration of Igbos. Nigeria is breaking into Three.

Big problems in Nigeria.

Noneroone:
The Yoruba and Igbo are just as unrelated as with the Hausa.

I do not agree. The Yoruba, Benin, Igbo, Kalabari and Efik/Ibibio peoples all migrated very likely from central Africa in their spaces right now, linguistics, genetics and cultural similarities attest to this as compared to Sahelian peoples who would include the Hausa, Chadic, Sudanic peoples who have a more distinct genetic material and culture.

Noneroone:

Remember the problem is not really the Hausa but the Fulani. The problem is not just Islam but political Islamic ideology being driven from the Fulani caliphate. The Fulani control the Hausas and Northerners with extreme Islam whose values is at variance with those of development. The Fulani aspirations of islamic conquest contradicts the development needs of the Hausas and aspirations of the other Nigerians.

I don't different between political Islamic ideology and the practice of Islam. They are one and the same.

Noneroone:

You need to understand how religious hegemony works. You will always have willing tools who see being used as religious obligation. Therefore the Fulani controls the north and the country by extention and do everything they want, at the same time not officially held accountable for them. With this they can even sabotage and destroy the country when the interest of the people doesn't accord with their conquest agenda. This is the problem. Theoretically, if the north wants to end 70% of its problem, they need a revolution that will disband the caliphate, the emirate and Fulani Sunni extremism. Enthrone moderate Islam and Hausa traditional system.

I would contend that this is impossible at this time in history. The North is entrenched with Islamic ideology be it moderate or extreme. The Yoruba's are muslims as well but far more progressive in their practice of the religion. As always they have found a way to marry their cultural traditions seamlessly with the Islamic faith. Some will say they are not real Muslims, well that's their opinion. I call them Progressive muslims.

Noneroone:

Like I said if that is done you would see the Hausa is just as different as the Yoruba to an Igbo. The Hausa is also peaceful and doesn't kill, they love to learn, they love to see foreigners live and build their land. This was what Fulani took advantage of to conquer them and destroy their land. The Hausas can only fear the so called Igbo domination but they neither hate nor jealous the Igbo the way Yoruba's do.

There is more of a contempt for Igbos in the North than a fear as you put it, viewed as a radical and less cultured people if you ask me. In fact I tend to believe it extends to all Southerners in general. Yoruba's trust Igbo's much less because of their relentless drive for wealth to the detriment of developing a progressive culture if you ask me and the other minority tribes in the South fear them because of the potential to dominate.

Noneroone:

Igbos envy no one but Yoruba's envy the Igbos. Envy is a dangerous thing and Yoruba's have it. a Yoruba may not have the liver to kill physically but can incite killings out of envy. They need Igbos in their land but still envy and hate them. This is a situation which defies logic. This is why Yoruba's are the only people that want the republic of southern Nigeria and not their own independent homeland. This is for those who dare to support separation as most of them prefer a united Nigeria no matter the odds.

Everyone knows Biafra is the political aspiration of Igbos. Nigeria is breaking into Three.

Igbo's have an insatiable appetite for wealth, which is not necessarily a bad thing but when the quest for this is taken to the extreme where one's morality and ethics are undermined it becomes a problem for any and everyone in close proximity. The individual is glorified in Igbo culture and in Yoruba culture the community is more valued. These values amongst the two groups are in contradiction but are more manageable as against the Hausa/Igbo relationship.

In terms of Nigeria breaking up into three pieces, this is fallacy and for the following reasons.

1. The Igbo cannot create a third region without a consensus of the minority tribes in that area.

2. The middle belt are in a conundrum because they constitute groups that sit in between all three regions. Where will their allegiance lay?


The so called Biafra is not that simple in reality.

zhike:


The fact of the matter is that what is happening in South Africa is just drop on the ocean compared to what is happening in Nigeria.

You are comparing apples with oranges.

If you look across the region of West Africa in general, there are no issues in Nigeria that are unique to Nigeria. The politics of the Western region is very removed from Southern African politics so they are not to be compared.

A much better comparison would be Ghana and Nigeria.

zhike:


But why can't Nigerian sit at Nigeria and stop bothering other countries.

I don't know what you mean by this.

1.Are Nigerians the only economic migrants in South Africa or other countries for that matter?

2. Are you talking about the illicit activities conducted by Nigerians in other countries?

3. If your answer is the affirmative to question 2 why do you not emphasis the contributions of Nigerians which is "far more" extensive compared to the illicit activities you mostly hear about. Bad news is far more entertaining than good news and you fall for the same media trick.

Case in point:

Nigerian population: approximately 200 million

Population of Nigerian diasporans: approximately 20 million ( 10% of entire population).

Population of Nigerians in South Africa: 1 million ( 5% of Diasporan population).

Population of male Nigerians in South Africa : 500,000 ( 50% of Nigerians in South Africa)

Population of males over the age of 18: 375,000 ( 75% of male Nigerians in South Africa)

Population of employed Nigerians in South Africa with work permits, professionals, students, diplomats, etc = 187,500( 50% of males over 18)

Population of potential miscreants = 187,500


This potentials are concentrated in major cities, Johannesburg, Cape town and Durban as compared to 49 million peoples in South Africa.

You see how ridiculous the statement a majority of Nigerians are criminals is??

morpheus24:


I do not agree. The Yoruba, Benin, Igbo, Kalabari and Efik/Ibibio peoples all migrated very likely from central Africa in their spaces right now, linguistics, genetics and cultural similarities attest to this as compared to Sahelian peoples who would include the Hausa, Chadic, Sudanic peoples who have a more distinct genetic material and culture.




I don't different between political Islamic ideology and the practice of Islam. They are one and the same

I would contend that this is impossible at this time in history. The North is entrenched with Islamic ideology be it moderate or extreme. The Yoruba's are muslims as well but far more progressive in their practice of the religion. As always they have found a way to marry their cultural traditions seamlessly with the Islamic faith. Some will say they are not real Muslims, well that's their opinion. I call them Progressive muslims.



There is more of a contempt for Igbos in the North than a fear as you put it, viewed as a radical and less cultured people if you ask me. In fact I tend to believe it extends to all Southerners in general. Yoruba's trust Igbo's much less because of their relentless drive for wealth to the detriment of developing a progressive culture if you ask me and the other minority tribes in the South fear them because of the potential to dominate.



Igbo's have an insatiable appetite for wealth, which is not necessarily a bad thing but when the quest for this is taken to the extreme where one's morality and ethics are undermined it becomes a problem for any and everyone in close proximity. The individual is glorified in Igbo culture and in Yoruba culture the community is more valued. These values amongst the two groups are in contradiction but are more manageable as against the Hausa/Igbo relationship.

In terms of Nigeria breaking up into three pieces, this is fallacy and for the following reasons.

1. The Igbo cannot create a third region without a consensus of the minority tribes in that area.

2. The middle belt are in a conundrum because they constitute groups that sit in between all three regions. Where will their allegiance lay?


The so called Biafra is not that simple in reality.

You sound rather hysterical and insecure instead of reasonable. Your opinion about Igbo's confirm my earlier submission about the notorious jealousy of Yoruba's towards Igbos and how they can't be in the same country.

Your claim that Igbos, Yoruba Efik etc all came from one place "likely" central Africa is not only stupid but show how far you guys can go in giving your ruthless determination to attach to the people you "trust less" a fake historical backing. The question is why doing this for a people you don't trust? Igbo had historical relations with every group in the south except Yoruba. They shared a kingdom with Edo, Isoko, Urhobo. In fact some Isoko communities have Igbo origins. Igbos and Efik Ibibio are almost one. They share most cultures and even in appearance. Most ijaws have Igbo blood in them. Many of them speak Igbo as well as ijaw. In fact, opobo and bonny almost speak only Igbo. The Igbos and eastern cousins are inseparable for Igbo is the uniting force in the eastern region. The truth is there was never any sort of precolonial relations between Igbo and yoruba. Even a foreigner can spot an average Igbo in the midst of Yoruba's for being fairer. So carry your recent genetic fabrications elsewhere Mr genetic expert.

I repeat, whatever you think doesn't matter. The fact remains no ethnic group trust Yoruba. Mid west was the only state created in Nigeria where Yorubas were rejected in a referendum. Yoruba's envy Igbos in every thing not just economic prosperity.

As for your usual rants on Biafra. You must fight to win true independence and Biafran movement is the only movement fighting for independence, not southern Nigeria or oodua. You usual rant about eastern minorities will remain a wish or at least, just a rant.

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I don't know what you mean by this.

1.Are Nigerians the only economic migrants in South Africa or other countries for that matter?

2. Are you talking about the illicit activities conducted by Nigerians in other countries?

3. If your answer is the affirmative to question 2 why do you not emphasis the contributions of Nigerians which is "far more" extensive compared to the illicit activities you mostly hear about. Bad news is far more entertaining than good news and you fall for the same media trick.

Case in point:

Nigerian population: approximately 200 million

Population of Nigerian diasporans: approximately 20 million ( 10% of entire population).

Population of Nigerians in South Africa: 1 million ( 5% of Diasporan population).

Population of male Nigerians in South Africa : 500,000 ( 50% of Nigerians in South Africa)

Population of males over the age of 18: 375,000 ( 75% of male Nigerians in South Africa)

Population of employed Nigerians in South Africa with work permits, professionals, students, diplomats, etc = 187,500( 50% of males over 18)

Population of potential miscreants = 187,500


This potentials are concentrated in major cities, Johannesburg, Cape town and Durban as compared to 49 million peoples in South Africa.

You see how ridiculous the statement a majority of Nigerians are criminals is??

No one really knows without a doubt how many Nigerians are in SA because from my experience with South Africans abroad, for good and or bad reasons, not everyone is interested in registering with the embassy or consulate. Some people don't want to be bothered by fellow countrymen or their country's authorities when they are having a good time or when they are busy breaking the law but they all remember their compatriots and government when things are bad or threaten to go bad.
My own estimate which some Nigerians I interact with believe is a good guess, is that there's a maximum of 2 million Nigerians in this country.
However, I do agree that Nigerians who're involved in crime are few. The challenge is that very little is known about good people. Most of the time, our people hear or read about the evil things that Nigerians have done, partly because of criminals who use Christianity to disguise their evil deeds.
Apart fron that, some people may not even know the difference between Nigerians and any other African immigrant. So, for them "Nigerian" could easilly be a synonym for "foreigner."

Noneroone:
You sound rather hysterical and insecure instead of reasonable. Your opinion about Igbo's confirm my earlier submission about the notorious jealousy of Yoruba's towards Igbos and how they can't be in the same country.

for the record I am not Yoruba so I don't know what jealousy you are referring to. It is quite ignorant for a Nigerian to not realize that the person he maybe conversing with is from one of the multiplicities of languages/ethnic groups in their own country only to assume or narrow down feuds to between three groups.

Noneroone:

Your claim that Igbos, Yoruba Efik etc all came from one place "likely" central Africa is not only stupid but show how far you guys can go in giving your ruthless determination to attach to the people you "trust less" a fake historical backing.

If this is not the case where do Igbo's come from and how can you authenticate this history outside of folktales?

Noneroone:

The question is why doing this for a people you don't trust? Igbo had historical relations with every group in the south except Yoruba. They shared a kingdom with Edo, Isoko, Urhobo. In fact some Isoko communities have Igbo origins. Igbos and Efik Ibibio are almost one. They share most cultures and even in appearance.

Most ijaws have Igbo blood in them. Many of them speak Igbo as well as ijaw. In fact, opobo and bonny almost speak only Igbo.

I do not contend this point but this has nothing to do with my earlier statement about a central African for Yoruba peoples

Noneroone:


The Igbos and eastern cousins are inseparable for Igbo is the uniting force in the eastern region.

This is just your view point I don't know how much this resonates with other groups from the region. What is true is the Igbo are the largest ethnic group but that does not translate to anything more than that.

Noneroone:

The truth is there was never any sort of precolonial relations between Igbo and yoruba. Even a foreigner can spot an average Igbo in the midst of Yoruba's for being fairer. So carry your recent genetic fabrications elsewhere Mr genetic expert.

The Kwa languages are linked to the Gbe languages of the west. The Yoruba language falls in between these two language phylums. The Kwa language extends back into the camerouns which lends credence to the strong theory that migratory patterns likely occurred from there for speakers of this Language. Another possible route would be "West central" Africa placing the Yoruba and Igbo migrations coming in from what is today known as the the central African republic.

Your problem is that you are stuck in a simplistic identification of people and cannot comprehend that there were proto speakers of certain languages that existed in the past and diverged. I will not argue this with you because it is obvious you do not understand any ot if.

Genetically speaking Yoruba's and every other group to their east are quite similar and related as compared to Sahel and Savannah dwelling peoples and their lineages likely emanate from Proto-Bantu groups that spread across Africa. If you don't understand this please go and read, educate your mind.

The light skin gene variant common in the Igbo and some other groups in Africa is an ancient variation of the SL42a45 gene that gives most non Africans their skin tone. There is nothing special about that and this gene is present in other groups but only more pronounced in Igbos. This is a silly way of pointing out Igbos as they come in many color variants similar to their counter parts in other parts of Africa.

Noneroone:

I repeat, whatever you think doesn't matter. The fact remains no ethnic group trust Yoruba. Mid west was the only state created in Nigeria where Yorubas were rejected in a referendum. Yoruba's envy Igbos in every thing not just economic prosperity.

As for your usual rants on Biafra. You must fight to win true independence and Biafran movement is the only movement fighting for independence, not southern Nigeria or oodua. You usual rant about eastern minorities will remain a wish or at least, just a rant.

There is nothing Yoruba's need to be jealous about Igbo's. They excel in pretty much every endeavor that is managed by Igbos with the slight difference being Igbos are more industrious while Yorubas concentrate on education to advance their progression.

Good luck with your Biafra, when you get it let's see what you become, until then all na mouth

Miaraka:
No one really knows without a doubt how many Nigerians are in SA because from my experience with South Africans abroad, for good and or bad reasons, not everyone is interested in registering with the embassy or consulate. Some people don't want to be bothered by fellow countrymen or their country's authorities when they are having a good time or when they are busy breaking the law but they all remember their compatriots and government when things are bad or threaten to go bad.
My own estimate which some Nigerians I interact with believe is a good guess, is that there's a maximum of 2 million Nigerians in this country.

Even at that estimate which I doubt is realist putting them at a 10% rate of all Diasporan's would still mean you simply double the numbers I presented to you of potential criminals. Do that and still make the comparison.

Miaraka:

However, I do agree that Nigerians who're involved in crime are few. The challenge is that very little is known about good people. Most of the time, our people hear or read about the evil things that Nigerians have done, partly because of criminals who use Christianity to disguise their evil deeds.
Apart fron that, some people may not even know the difference between Nigerians and any other African immigrant. So, for them "Nigerian" could easilly be a synonym for "foreigner."

1.Your people do know the differences between Nigerians and other "foreigners' quite well.

2.The heaviest concentration of Nigerians are within certain cities making it seem like they are a whole bunch of them.

3. Your media sensationalizes these Nigerians and do not show the majority who do not do these things. Bad news is entertaining.

4. I am not a religious person so I would advise anybody to stay away from Nigerian churches or anything religious that concerns Nigerians. It is breeding ground for expert manipulators.

morpheus24:


for the record I am not Yoruba so I don't know what jealousy you are referring to. It is quite ignorant for a Nigerian to not realize that the person he maybe conversing with is from one of the multiplicities of languages/ethnic groups in their own country only to assume or narrow down feuds to between three groups.



If this is not the case where do Igbo's come from and how can you authenticate this history outside of folktales?



I do not contend this point but this has nothing to do with my earlier statement about a central African for Yoruba peoples


This is just your view point I don't know how much this resonates with other groups from the region. What is true is the Igbo are the largest ethnic group but that does not translate to anything more than that.



The Kwa languages are linked to the Gbe languages of the west. The Yoruba language falls in between these two language phylums. The Kwa language extends back into the camerouns which lends credence to the strong theory that migratory patterns likely occurred from there for speakers of this Language. Another possible route would be "West central" Africa placing the Yoruba and Igbo migrations coming in from what is today known as the the central African republic.

Your problem is that you are stuck in a simplistic identification of people and cannot comprehend that there were proto speakers of certain languages that existed in the past and diverged. I will not argue this with you because it is obvious you do not understand any ot if.

Genetically speaking Yoruba's and every other group to their east are quite similar and related as compared to Sahel and Savannah dwelling peoples and their lineages likely emanate from Proto-Bantu groups that spread across Africa. If you don't understand this please go and read, educate your mind.

The light skin gene variant common in the Igbo and some other groups in Africa is an ancient variation of the SL42a45 gene that gives most non Africans their skin tone. There is nothing special about that and this gene is present in other groups but only more pronounced in Igbos. This is a silly way of pointing out Igbos as they come in many color variants similar to their counter parts in other parts of Africa.



There is nothing Yoruba's need to be jealous about Igbo's. They excel in pretty much every endeavor that is managed by Igbos with the slight difference being Igbos are more industrious while Yorubas concentrate on education to advance their progression.

Good luck with your Biafra, when you get it let's see what you become, until then all na mouth

Well I didn't exactly call you Yoruba and you shouldnt think I did if you weren't just assuming their place.
Yoruba and Igbo are not related and you have not proven otherwise except your fraudulent recourse to a non existent genetic test. The only ethnic group that has close similarity to Igbos in Nigeria in terms colour, culture, delicacy etc is those From Akwa cross. All other ethnic groups are as dark as they can get. Hey! You cant wish away the place of colour in determining racial differences and similarities and the fair skin tone of the Igbo cannot be downplayed however hard you try. It might interest you to know that some of those other Africans you mentioned also claim South east Nigerian as a place of origin.

Again stop using genetics cos gene changes with time. We are all humans with a common source but can't hold together. The English and Germans can't hold together yet they Germanic ancestry. The Jews and Arabs are from Abraham yet they are cat and dog. Genetics does answer a question of whether people can live together culture and compatibility do. We are living in present not past and you have not really stated what connects an Igbo to Yoruba in culture and history.

Yes! Yoruba's envy Igbos. That nothing warrants such jealousy is your opinion but the envy is a FACT.

Noneroone:
Well I didn't exactly call you Yoruba and you shouldnt think I did if you weren't just assuming their place.
Yoruba and Igbo are not related and you have not proven otherwise except your fraudulent recourse to a non existent genetic test. The only ethnic group that has close similarity to Igbos in Nigeria in terms colour, culture, delicacy etc is those From Akwa cross. All other ethnic groups are as dark as they can get. Hey! You cant wish away the place of colour in determining racial differences and similarities and the fair skin tone of the Igbo cannot be downplayed however hard you try. It might interest you to know that some of those other Africans you mentioned also claim South east Nigerian as a place of origin.

Childish I tell you.

Source:

https://www.nairaland.com/4194514/yoruba-99-genetically-identical-igbos/1

Noneroone:

Again stop using genetics cos gene changes with time. We are all humans with a common source but can't hold together. The English and Germans can't hold together yet they Germanic ancestry. The Jews and Arabs are from Abraham yet they are cat and dog. Genetics does answer a question of whether people can live together culture and compatibility do. We are living in present not past and you have not really stated what connects an Igbo to Yoruba in culture and history.

Yes! Yoruba's envy Igbos. That nothing warrants such jealousy is your opinion but the envy is a FACT.

More Childishness

https://www.nairaland.com/2616350/igbos-vs-yorubas-similarities-diversity/2

morpheus24:


Childish I tell you.

Source:

https://www.nairaland.com/4194514/yoruba-99-genetically-identical-igbos/1




More Childishness

https://www.nairaland.com/2616350/igbos-vs-yorubas-similarities-diversity/2

Nairaland sources? I am sure you already know the childish one.

Noneroone:
Nairaland sources? I am sure you already know the childish one.

Did you read through the sources actually attached in each of the posts or you want me to repost it for you here to show how you are incapable of actually taking the time to look at the information.

if you had looked carefully you would have seen that I also commented on that thread and this is 4 years ago.

I am not sure why some people are so adamant to be set in their way of thinking instead of actually expanding their knowledge base. It bewilders me?

SMH!

morpheus24:


Did you read through the sources actually attached in each of the posts or you want me to repost it for you here to show how you are incapable of actually taking the time to look at the information.

if you had looked carefully you would have seen that I also commented on that thread and this is 4 years ago.

I am not sure why some people are so adamant to be set in their way of thinking instead of actually expanding their knowledge base. It bewilders me?

SMH!

morpheus24:


Did you read through the sources actually attached in each of the posts or you want me to repost it for you here to show how you are incapable of actually taking the time to look at the information.

if you had looked carefully you would have seen that I also commented on that thread and this is 4 years ago.

I am not sure why some people are so adamant to be set in their way of thinking instead of actually expanding their knowledge base. It bewilders me?

SMH!

yup! I saw the source and it was a blog isn't it? the blog and the DNA examination were probably managed by you. That was how arrived at the conclusion that Igbo and Yoruba are related.

Igbo and Yoruba are one and the same in everything! can you now stop hurting and feel accepted?

We are Fools in Nigeria.

Noneroone:
yup! I saw the source and it was a blog isn't it? the blog and the DNA examination were probably managed by you. That was how arrived at the conclusion that Igbo and Yoruba are related.

Igbo and Yoruba are one and the same in everything! can you now stop hurting and feel accepted?

Learn and move on. Education is freedom, propaganda degenerates the mind.

IronGalaxy:
yep!

But yet both of you morons are the bottom of the barrel scum of South African society. Doing nothing productive but wasting away your days obsessing over Nigerians. Pathetic but I expected nothing less from druggies

But yet both of you morons are the bottom of the barrel scum of South African society. Doing nothing productive but wasting away your days obsessing over Nigerians. Pathetic but I expected nothing less from druggies

doing nothing productive? Ha ha ha

Here is the reason each of this countries are not 95% Muslims placed side by side with Christian

They have common thinking and understanding

Same with tradition.... They are cousins joined together as a country


UNLIKE NIGERIA