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Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 3:39pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
If Wike like he should demolish all the mosque in Rivers, that is their own cup of tea. Both the North and the SE/SS are bird of a feather. Both have no religion tolerance and are both guilty of the same sin. If Hausa/Fulani like they should demolish all churches while the SS/SE should do the same. Who religion even epp self. I just know those kind of things will not happen in the SW, and even if it happens it will not generate any rancor as this coz people will understand the motive behind it (Maybe road expansion or other reasons). As a muslim in the SW, I take no offense in what Wike did, coz the Northerners can also do the same so its do me I do you. 1 Like |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by APCHaram: 3:41pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Iblad0994: And you wonder why the north calls you kafirs fake Muslims. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by TorukMakto: 3:45pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Seetto: You're a zombie if you're from the South, People like you never question the evil the Northerners are doing, you blindly support them. People like you support RUGA and try to sell it to us. Useless Muhammedian using taqiyaah to deny his faith. You people have evil plan. I'm not a religious person, I don't even accept the idea of God, I support Wike. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 3:47pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
APCHaram: I don't bleeping care what the North calls us. No SW muslim has ever been accused of killing other people for the sake of religion No SW muslim has ever been a terrorist blowing people up SW muslim have learnt to live and intermarry with the SW christains It is Yoruba first. The North can call us Kafir if they want coz the last time I read the Koran, Mohammed (SAW) is not from the North and God did not place the Quran in the hands of a northerner. 1 Like |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by APCHaram: 3:53pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Iblad0994: Yoruba Moslems teamed up with Fulani jihadist from Sokoto to pillage old Oyo Ile. Ilorin is forever lost to the north because of Yoruba Moslem treachery. Don't preach about Yoruba Moslem tolerance because I do know for a fact that Islamic fanaticism is spreading like wild fire among Yoruba Muslim students in tertiary institutions. The MSS branch of the University of Ife was proscribed and banned by the university authority for displaying "fanatical and intolerant views". The only consolation I can extend to you is that you are more of a nuisance than a threat to anybody now that we know that the Yoruba Moslem will always worship Sokoto. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 4:03pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
APCHaram: You are saying nonsense, Ilorin is an imperial outpost of the Oyo empire as at then and the issue of Alimi and Afonja (1789 to 1796) has to do with the notion of belief over traditional means. The Fulani were able to achieve that feat because they hid under religion, which explains why the white misssionaries were also able to propagate christainity against our traditional faith. The Fulanis were defeated when they tried advancing towards the Oyo empire at present day Osun State and they were blocked by the ever gallant Yoruba forces. If you like you can wail from now till eternity, that does not stop the fact that the Yorubas have learnt to conquer hatred borne out of religion differences. My mom is a christain and my dad is a muslim, you will also see these kind of settings in other Yoruba families. I can deduce from your comment that you really wish your people can have the tolerance as the Yorubas coz you hate what you can't have. There is no difference between the SE & the North in terms of religious toxicity, the only difference is that while the North is stupidly bold to kill other people with different religion, the SE haven't done that yet and they only attack other religion by noise and online disturbances. Both you and the north are religion savages. 1 Like |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by GreyLaw(m): 4:04pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
APCHaram: You know quite some history. Impressive. Christianity is tolerant to a fault and people of the other faith exploit this. Same thing was happening in the US before Trump and you can see them cursing him everyday. The man doesn't give a hoot. Below is a text culled from the letter written by Russian Orthodox Christian organisation to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia in 2008 when he offered to build a large mosque in Moscow: “You often say that Islam is a religion of justice. However, if Saudi Arabia builds mosques in dozens of Christian countries, isn’t it just to build a church for Christians living in Your Kingdom! It would be just to create the same conditions for Saudi Christians as Muslims have in Russia … It is the only way to make interreligious dialogue honest and just.” Talk about when it's easy to dish it out and not want to receive same. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by APCHaram: 4:05pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
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Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by APCHaram: 4:08pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
GreyLaw: A mosque is akin to a barracks. Allowing a mosque to be built in your land is the first wave of victory for Muslims. Idiots like Okorocha and Urji Kalu that used state resources to build mosques in their state did not pause to ask if any northern state governor has ever done same for Christians in their states. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by TooMuchStuff: 4:18pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
APCHaram:The two animals mentioned above are actually practicing Muslims hidden in the cloak of Christianity deployed by Caliphate to the East to protect the interest of Islam. That's why they were empowered with huge cash reserve stolen by the Fulanis Cabal from ND oil Money. 1 Like |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by TorukMakto: 4:27pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Iblad0994: Here is Muslim community celebrating Boko Haram terrorists and waving boko haram flag, most of you see Boko Haram terrorists as heroes, Boko Haram won't exist without your support. Boko Haram is muslim agenda just like Fulani jihadist herdsmen, in the Middle Belt, Fulani jihadist herdsmen are sacking villagers and renaming their villages. Moderate Muslims celebrating Boko Haram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8irkbY77PFI Fulani Jihadists importing foreign Fulanis to occupy christian communities in Southern Kaduna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0CeMHeoejw How Sharia law started in Nigeria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aHag7aRTI Islamists riots in Nigeria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2zbsEesKx8 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by APCHaram: 4:28pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
TooMuchStuff: The title they conferred on Kalu by the Emir of Daura actually means "son born of a sex slave " Roachas mother is believed to have conceived him in an adulterous affair to one ab0ki 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 4:31pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
TorukMakto: What is my own with all these rubbish video, did I tell you I am from the north? If the North like they can wave to Boko Haram or romance them, how does that concerns the SW? Show me a video where any SW'ner is supporting Boko Haram or keep shut forever. |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by TorukMakto: 4:36pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Iblad0994: Stop pretending it doesn't affect you, it's your Yoruba Muslim brother that raised alert that Wike destroyed none existing mosque, when we talk of religious issues, its the Yoruba people that have most religious problems, from education to church, to politics etc. Both Christians, traditionalists and Muslims attack each others in the South West, 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 4:43pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
TorukMakto: Haha really @the bolded? While you are confusing MURIC advocacy as an issue of intolerance among the Yorubas, its just a normal thing to do by the relevant bodies to defend religion online and both CAN and MURIC always does that. The issue here is about religious tolerance among people, the SW'ners have learnt to coexist peacefully devoid of religious sentiments or animosity. You will see churches and mosque located almost everywhere while Christians and Muslims intermarry without much rancor. For you to also understand the magnitude of the tolerance, Five (5) of the SW governors are christian and you don't see people fighting or abusing each other on the street daily like it used to happen in other part of Nigeria. Let me ask you a direct question and please answer in all sincerity: Which region between SW , SS, NE, NW, and NC has shown the highest level of religious tolerance in Nigeria? I'm waiting patiently for your response. |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by HopeAtHand: 4:50pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
I've had discussions with some cross-section of my immediate environment in Port Harcourt and many seem really pleased with Wike's demolition of the mosque. They even wished he can demolish even more. Wike is actually aware of the overwhelming, if not total, christian Riverian population and is subtly activating their religious tendencies. But to what end is what I haven't really come to terms with. Well they say in time everything becomes clearer, Wike's action today may define his future political permutations. Let's watch and see. |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by TooMuchStuff: 5:11pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Iblad0994:Yoruba so called religious tolerance is a just a noisy hoax. Most of the male products of chris-muslim marriages are usually Muslims especially if the husband is Muslim. The whole thing is embedded on minority status of Muslims in all Yorubaland except kwara state. This would change in future as more political and economical power gets to yoruba Muslims with the assistance of Hausafulani Muslims of the north. Most female products of the marriages are fully primed with hijabs to scare the Christians away from 'having' them. It's gradual. It will eventually come around like the core Northern terrorists. Na time. Why was Dangote refinery hijacked from ondo to lagos? 3 Likes |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 5:21pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
TooMuchStuff: Thank you for indirectly accepting the fact that the Yoruba are the most religious tolerant ethnic group in Nigeria. How do you guage the minority status of the muslims in Yoruba land? Who conducted the census? which statistics backs up your claim? Hausa/Fulani muslims in the North can NOT lay terms for the Yorubas, why do you guys keep attributing too much importance to the North? @the bolded, are you kidding me? You mean the refinery was relocated from Ondo to Lagos because of religion? I give up |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by APCHaram: 5:25pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Iblad0994: can a Yoruba Muslim woman be wedded to a Christian Yoruba man? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by TooMuchStuff: 5:26pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Iblad0994:It's just a simple question to u. Ondo got the nod by GEJ but Tinubu felt it should not be in Ondo despite the crude feeds are all in Ondo fields. Why...? |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 5:28pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
APCHaram: Yes, I have seen it countless times. What other question do you want to ask? Before it was that Yorubas are not united in religion, now you changed it to if a muslim woman can marry a christain man and I debunked that too. What other question will you ask? I'm waiting |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 5:32pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
TooMuchStuff: Let me educate you. Just read this link to know why the refinery was relocated. After reading this come back to apologize for even dragging Tinubu to this or blaming it on religion. https://thetracenewsmagazine./2015/06/01/how-odsg-lost-9bn-dangotes-refinery/ |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by APCHaram: 5:34pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Then you are not real muslims Iblad0994: |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by TooMuchStuff: 5:35pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Iblad0994: Me apologise to a Yoruba Muslim?? Tuehh....! I am not different much from U sir. We neighbours! |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 5:37pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
APCHaram: How do you measure real muslim? What yardstick do you use to guage a muslim? Killing and intolerance of other people? Do I need to behave like some bigots in the North to be a true muslim? I read the Quran at the arabic house, I read the translation (Itumo) of the Quran. What do you mean by real muslim? |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 5:38pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
TooMuchStuff: What do you mean by we are neighbors? Where you from first coz you sound like a SE'ner. At least we learn everyday, you have been schooled about why the refinery was relocated, hence next time you won't mention that kind of false narratives on a public forum ever again. The SE'ners are the only set of people that create lies and believe their lies. How will someone even think that Dangote refinery was relocated coz of religion? Nawa o Peace bro |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by APCHaram: 5:40pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Although Muslims are encouraged to marry/abduct Christian women/girls they are forbidden to give out their own women in marriage to non Muslims This is one of several reasons the north does not count you as real muslims Iblad0994: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by Nobody: 5:44pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
APCHaram: Bro you are missing the fact together here. Stop trying to make it seems like we need validation from the North before we can pronounce ourselves muslim in the SW. Was the Quran given to the North? Is Mohammed from the North? Is Mecca in the North? I'm even tired of explaining. The Yorubas do not care whether the North accept us as true muslim or not. If blowing up churches and mosques, killing other religious folks, and toxicity towards other faith is what you mean by real muslim with regards to some part of the north, then sorry is your case. |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by APCHaram: 5:46pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
It is from Islamic injunction that forbids Muslim women being wedded to non Muslims that I am referring to Your so-called tolerance is not in tandem to Islamic doctrine. Iblad0994: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by rummmy: 6:43pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Seetto:what has your sultan done to better you life 4 Likes |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by TooMuchStuff: 10:29pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
rummmy: Fixed 3 Likes |
Re: The Christianization Of Rivers And Why The North Is Very Afriad by myobjective: 11:41pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Iblad0994: I keep telling people that the core north and the SE/SS are very similar in their extreme view towards religion, they are both religious extremist that lack tolerance for other people's faith. The only difference between these two groups is that Islam is more of a political ideology that can make uneducated people do stupid things, Christianity, on the other hand, focus much on the worldly things. These two groups are very extreme and normally take actions without reasoning, an average Yoruba Muslim is more educated, more tolerant and has more diversity in family and among friends that is the difference between us Yoruba and the core northerner. Some progressive, educated core northerners are even more tolerant than an Igbos. In this age and time, it baffles me that people are still arguing about which state is a Christian or Muslim state when we have a myriad of problem ranging from poverty, illiteracy, unemployment etc. 3 Likes |
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