amingafar:

no most igalas have connection with north or south depending on religion and background

there areigalas in edo state who relate more with bini eshans there are igalas in enugu who relate more with ibos, there are iglas in niger kwara who relate more to nupe yoruba fulani,

as you can see some knuckle heads say NC mainly chrsitian wile most muslims say North

as i said earlier, it has to do with affinity.

jason12345:

so basically, you support the decision made by ohanaeze even though it might create a marginalisation atmosphere of Ndigbo in Nigerian politics. remember, there is cause and effect. anyway, i still want the SW to follow and endorse GJ even though i doubt that would happen since they might support ACN

It is not just me supporting the endorsement, 80% of Ndigbo supports the endorsement. Am in touch with most Igbo organisations here in the U.K and in Nigeria and I know their views.

jason12345:

as i said earlier, it has to do with affinity.

i think igalas in the south that are Christians should go with the southern nigeria, i think if they are called north central like kwara it would only bring violents to the north,,,,,, or what do u think

@Amingafar: Please show some respect by typing Igbo. This may be off topic but your continous use of ibo is annoying.

Andre Uweh:

It is not just me supporting the endorsement, 80% of Ndigbo supports the endorsement. Am in touch with most Igbo organisations here in the U.K and in Nigeria and I know their views.

was thought given to the wider implications when deciding who to support since you are in touch with the organisation?(with all due respect). do they believe it would pave a way for Ndigbo 2015? did they take into account that any deal made might be jettisoned?

alj harem:

i think igalas in the south that are Christians should go with the southern nigeria, i think if they are called north central like kwara it would only bring violents to the north,,,,,, or what do u think

i personally think if there is any violence, the igalas (south), okun and the kwarans would join the yorubas thus the agitation for the creation of oya state.

jason12345:

i personally think if there is any violence, the igalas (south), okun and the kwarans would join the yorubas thus the agitation for the creation of oya state.

what makes u thing the igala will join yorubas?

jason12345:

i personally think if there is any violence, the igalas (south), okun and the kwarans would join the yorubas thus the agitation for the creation of oya state.

better

chyz:

what makes u thing the igala will join yorubas?

maybe, if not then it does not really matter. the emphasis would be on what supports their interest.

jason12345:

was thought given to the wider implications when deciding who to support since you are in touch with the organisation?(with all due respect). do they believe it would pave a way for Ndigbo 2015? did they take into account that any deal made might be jettisoned?

In as much as I disagree with Ohaneze on its mingling in politics,I believe what Igbos want is not 2015 presidency but their interests.GEJ is an Igbo man anyway.I think Otueke has its roots somewhere in Abia.

jason12345:

was thought given to the wider implications when deciding who to support since you are in touch with the organisation?(with all due respect). do they believe it would pave a way for Ndigbo 2015? did they take into account that any deal made might be jettisoned?

Prior to the Igbo coming to a conclusion, there were some other issues that were put under consideration not just 2015.
If by 2015, there is an Igbo president, that will be lovely, but if that does not happen, life goes on. But Ndigbo at the moment needs, states, infrastructures, elevation in positions, security and so on.
What would it profit an Igbo to have a president who caters for interest of others ahead Ndigbo. For example, during the tenure of Soludo, as CBN governor, a close friend of mine from London (Igbo) went for a position in central bank. Despite the fact he was more qualified and experienced than the other contestant from Bauchi, but Soludo gave it to the chap from Bauchi and till date, has not explained the rationale for his choice.

Abagworo:

In as much as I disagree with Ohaneze on its mingling in politics,I believe what Igbos want is not 2015 presidency but their interests.GEJ is an Igbo man anyway.I think Otueke has its roots somewhere in Abia.

you have to be very careful with that statement, it might just be a political bargaining point for GJ to sweep Ndigbo votes ( i speak as a neutral here).

Andre Uweh:

Prior to the Igbo coming to a conclusion, there were some other issues that were put under consideration not just 2015.
If by 2015, there is an Igbo president, that will be lovely, but if that does not happen, life goes on. But Ndigbo at the moment needs, states, infrastructures, elevation in positions, security and so on.
What would it profit an Igbo to have a president who caters for interest of others ahead Ndigbo. For example, during the tenure of Soludo, as CBN governor, a close friend of mine from London (Igbo) went for a position in central bank. Despite the fact he was more qualified and experienced than the other contestant from Bauchi, but Soludo gave it to the chap from Bauchi and till date, has not explained the rationale for his choice.

i believe he would do the infrastructure bit but the states? ? ? ? ? i seriously doubt that. the northern representatives at the national assembly would prevent that. their argument might be that igbo land is small compared to theirs.

Andre Uweh:

Prior to the Igbo coming to a conclusion, there were some other issues that were put under consideration not just 2015.
If by 2015, there is an Igbo president, that will be lovely, but if that does not happen, life goes on. But Ndigbo at the moment needs, states, infrastructures, elevation in positions, security and so on.
What would it profit an Igbo to have a president who caters for interest of others ahead Ndigbo. For example, during the tenure of Soludo, as CBN governor, a close friend of mine from London (Igbo) went for a position in central bank. Despite the fact he was more qualified and experienced than the other contestant from Bauchi, but Soludo gave it to the chap from Bauchi and till date, has not explained the rationale for his choice.

it guarantees political relevance like what the ijaws have now. also the soludo incident might just be a one off

Andre Uweh:

It is not just me supporting the endorsement, 80% of Ndigbo supports the endorsement. Am in touch with most Igbo organisations here in the U.K and in Nigeria and I know their views.

Please how did you arrive at that number?

You people keep throwing statistics up on down. Its amazing that you arived at 80% of Ndigbo by creating a sample space based in London.

@Jason: Landmass has not been a determinant in state creations.

Andre Uweh:

@Jason: Landmass has not been a determinant in state creations.

then what is? political power or relevance?

mikeansy:

Please how did you arrive at that number?

You people keep throwing statistics up on down. Its amazing that you arived at 80% of Ndigbo by creating a sample space based in London.

. i hope you don't mind me asking, are you igbo?

mikeansy:

Please how did you arrive at that number?

You people keep throwing statistics up on down. Its amazing that you arived at 80% of Ndigbo by creating a sample space based in London.

Very easy. Make a compilation of Igbo organisations home and abroad and start speaking or writing to their heads for opinions. You may arrive at an answer higher than my 80%. Do you have the time for that?.

jason12345:

then what is? political power or relevance?

The need for parity.
Population.
Cultural, social and historical contiguity of the area demanding for a state.
Consent of the people in demand of the state.

jason12345:

. i hope you don't mind me asking, are you igbo?

Why do you think I am not? lol

Full blooded Igbo. Both parents are Igbo. The Parents of my Parents are all Igbo.

Andre Uweh:

The need for parity.
Population.
Cultural, social and historical contiguity of the area demanding for a state.
Consent of the people in demand of the state.

Okay i understand and support the parity bit.

population? .

when forming the new state would it be from the existing ones(igbo states) or partly from other neighbouring states?.

if a new state is formed, i think the demand for oya state would be even stronger.

mikeansy:

Why do you think I am not? lol

i'll assume you have igbo origin then. the reason i asked is that i did not want some one from another ethnic group to disrespect the decision of ohanaeze. my bad.

mikeansy:

Why do you think I am not? lol

Full blooded Igbo. Both parents are Igbo. The Parents of my Parents are all Igbo.

Because you sound incongruous to him.   . No offense intended.

Onlytruth:

Because you sound incongruous to him.   . No offense intended.

take time ooo!

its not because he sounded incongruous

jason12345:

take time ooo!

Any Igbo should not have his/her position on these issues questioned. I personally don't like complex positions because they create room for perfidy and "jipiti".

ohaneze took the right step bc is clear that GEJ has more chances of winning afterall he is our closest brother among all the contestant.

Andrew Uweh

There are 20 - 30 million Igbos on Earth. if not more

The credibility of your statistics depends on how close to this number your sample space is, how diversed it is and how many people from different locations and different political persuations participated in your poll.

If you interview 50 or 100 people who think like you and arrive at 40or 80 of them giving you a favourable answer, then you will certainly arrive at 80% statistics of Ndigbo favouring your ideas. But the question is what is the credibility of your sample space?

I do not think I even need to go into poll making to know that nothing can be further from reality.

There is almost mutiny in Ohaneze Ndigbo because of this decision. At least 3 senior Ohaneze officials have spoken out strongly against this decision including a National Vice President of Ohaneze Ndigbo.
The Idea that a decision which enjoys 80% of Igbo support somehow has some of our finest politicians opposing it is simply ridiculous. Somehow Ekwueme, Soludo, Ken Nnamani, ABC Nwosu, to name just a few are pursuing an agenda that has only 20% support in Igbo land?

Believe me you plucked your 80% from thin air.

Onlytruth:

Because you sound incongruous to him. . No offense intended.

I certainly sound incongrous to the views of Uwechue and I make no appologies for agreeing with Ekwueme, Soludo and Ken Nnamani instead of Uwechue.

Onlytruth:

Any Igbo should not have their position on these issues questioned. I personally don't like complex positions because they create room for perfidy and "jipiti".

why not? that is dictatorship. even the arewa youth did not support ciroma. people are individuals.

Chimanet:

ohaneze took the right step bc is clear that GEJ has more chances of winning afterall he is our closest brother among all the contestant.

i seriously doubt that except he rigs it (with all due respect). if what i have been reading on the papers is correct then he will not win SW or the North and that would not give him enough states to win the election (pls beaf this is just my opinion ). but i support the brotherly bit. so yes, i think that was a good decision (you have to stick to your brother no matter what happens), but i still don't think it was the best since it did not take into account the interest of the region  first (from a political point of view) and i am sure some of my igbo brothers would agree with me.

mikeansy:

I certainly sound incongrous to the views of Uwechue and I make no appologies for agreeing with Ekwueme, Soludo and Ken Nnamani instead of Uwechue.

i think the bolded people above actually understand the politics in nigeria. remember, 2015 would be free for all if GJ wins the pdp primaries. every one would go back to their tent

jason12345:

i think the bolded people above actually understand the politics in nigeria. remember, 2015 would be free for all if GJ wins the pdp primaries. every one would go back to their tent

Taking advice from Uwechue on political issues is like taking Chemistry lectures from your history teacher.

This is not Uwechue's territory, he should stick to what he knows best.

What if Jonathan looses? what face will Uwechue use to lead Ndigbo to demand their rights from whoever gets elected?

mikeansy:

Taking advice from Uwechue on political issues is like taking Chemistry lectures from your history teacher.

This is not Uwechue's territory, he should stick to what he knows best.

What if Jonathan loses? what face will Uwechue use to lead Ndigbo to demand their rights from whoever gets elected?

@ bolded GBAM!!! i think he should have been patient