nateevs:

Bloody lilly-livered Bottom who uses the press to release info about how he loves Barca yet cannot hand in a transfer request.
He wants to play for Barca sooo bad but he can't do what he has to do. I just hope he moves because it favours Chelsea.
Arsenal get weaker and Thiago Alcantara will move to Chelsea. Everyone's happy!

Lateef think say na Championship Manager

nateevs:

Yeah yeah. If na Chelsea, you go dey shout.
Now you remember the word speculation.

Calm down ogbeni.
What makes you believe they will pay Young £120, 000 a week? Even if sef, why are you surprised? Its not like the club cant afford it.

chamotex:

Lateef think say na Championship Manager

Calm down ogbeni.
What makes you believe they will pay Young £120, 000 a week? Even if sef, why are you surprised? Its not like the club cant afford it.

Oniranu. You think I am plucking sh.it from thin air.
Chelsea are in talks with him. Dude wants to stay at Barca but will move if Fab is brought in.
And he fancies Chelsea. Happy?


The club can afford it eh? Lemme see you on the other side talking trash about how much Chelsea spent with that rubbish coming from your keyboard. Ashley Young may never play for England again yet he's about to earn 120,000 a week.
Ashley Young at this moment should not earn more than Kalou.

nateevs:

Oniranu. You think I am plucking sh.it from thin air.
Chelsea are in talks with him. Dude wants to stay at Barca but will move if Fab is brought in.
And he fancies Chelsea. Happy?

Hehehe . . . why your blood come dey hot now
Still . . . all na speculation.
There is a new manager coming in now . . . do you know whether he'll fancy Alcantara . . . Oh I forgot, we're talking about Chelsea here.

nateevs:

The club can afford it eh? Lemme see you on the other side talking trash about how much Chelsea spent with that rubbish coming from your keyboard. Ashley Young may never play for England again yet he's about to earn 120,000 a week.

Give me one reason why Young MAY never play for England again? Is he going to die any time soon?
He is about to earn 120K? Give me a credible source abeg
We are not even sure how much he's going for yet . . . some say 15m, some are saying it's even more.

nateevs:

Ashley Young at this moment should not earn more than Kalou.

On what basis?
In the last 5 years, only Fab has made more assists than Young in the premiership.

nateevs:

The club can afford it eh? Lemme see you on the other side talking trash about how much Chelsea spent with that rubbish coming from your keyboard. Ashley Young may never play for England again yet he's about to earn 120,000 a week.
Ashley Young at this moment should not earn more than Kalou.

where do you get these figures from? abeg, run back to your chelsea thread where information are bandied by drunkards. . . .

nipping ashley young for £15million is a steal. . . . .if you now add the fact he signed a 5-yr contract, then it's a day-light robbery. that works out as £3m per annum which is about £60k a week. i dunno where you got your £120k from. . . .(maybe add-ons from image rights and other tv nonsense).

From: Twitter

From 07/08-10/11, Ashley Young has provided 30 dead ball league assists: 7.5 per year. #MUFC's best Nani has averaged 4.25.

Young's dead ball assist rate from last 4 years of 7.5 per season is better than Beckham - who averaged 4.77 per season in his #MUFC career.

47% of Ashley Young's career league goals have come away from home, compared to Valencia's 31% and Nani's 25%. #MUFC

Ashley Young has scored 32 goals in the Premier League - 100% on his right foot, 34.4% from outside the box, 37.5% from dead balls. #MUFC

Ashley Young is 7th on the PL assist rate list with 0.46 assists per game, behind Giggs, Bergkamp, Cantona, Fabregas, Henry & Beckham. #MUFC

5 – Ashley Young won more penalties than any other player in the 2010/11 Premier League season, winning 5 of Villa’s 6 spot kicks. Tricky.

44 – Since the start of the 2006/07 season, only Cesc Fabregas (60) has made more PL assists than Ashley Young (44). Creator

Ashley Young already plays for England regularly, but he may never play for England again after moving to the biggest club in the country? Nateevs must have banged his head somewhere. If anything he's going to play more regularly now.

120k p/w? That can't be true.

I cant deny Im a little underwhelmed by the Young signing. I really hope it works out and he turns out to be a fantastic signing for us.

I wouldnt mind so much if we had the elusive midfielder (or midfielders) we need already signed. And here's me assuming the De Gea signing is all a formality.

ritchboy:

Ashley Young already plays for England regularly, but he may never play for England again after moving to the biggest club in the country? Nateevs must have banged his head somewhere. If anything he's going to play "more regularly now".

120k p/w? That can't be true.

Chei!!!! See logic. Can someone please tell this dude about a player called Michael Carrick?
Witchboy don surface again.

nateevs:

Oniranu. You think I am plucking sh.it from thin air.
Chelsea are in talks with him. Dude wants to stay at Barca but will move if Fab is brought in.
And he fancies Chelsea. Happy?

He will move to Arsenal if Fab is brought in alright, because with the club being so broke, they'll never be able to pay Arsenal's price without throwing in a player.

So in essence, if Fab leaves, there's little or no chance of you getting Alcantara because he will be the makeweight to Arsenal.

nateevs:


Chei!!!! See logic. Can someone please tell this dude about a player called Michael Carrick?
Witchboy don surface again.

Carrick had to contend with a midfield that already had Lampard and Gerrard as clear, established favorites. . . . .who can you say is currently giving Young a run for England's RH midfield/RW place!?

Hehehe . . . why your blood come dey hot now
Still . . . all na speculation.
There is a new manager coming in now . . . do you know whether he'll fancy Alcantara . . . Oh I forgot, we're talking about Chelsea here.

Unless we appoint Sam Allardyce or Alex McLeish, every manager will fancy Alcantara.

He is about to earn 120K? Give me a credible source abeg
We are not even sure how much he's going for yet . . . some say 15m, some are saying it's even more.

The telegraph for you.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8592719/Manchester-United-close-to-signing-Aston-Villa-winger-Ashley-Young.html

Give me one reason why Young MAY never play for England again? Is he going to die any time soon?
On what basis?
In the last 5 years, only Fab has made more assists than Young in the premiership.

If he fails to live up to expectations. You are not saying that's not possible are you?

debosky:

He will move to Arsenal if Fab is brought in alright, because with the club being so broke, they'll never be able to pay Arsenal's price without throwing in a player.

So in essence, if Fab leaves, there's little or no chance of you getting Alcantara because he will be the makeweight to Arsenal.

Thiago, his agent and Dad already stated they will not agree to being a makeweight in the Fab transfer.
You think Barca are going to bind him to a bed and ship him off to Arsenal?
If he says no. . . . Then it's no. Plus you never know, Barca may still offer cash for Fab.

nateevs:

Thiago, his agent and Dad already stated they will not agree to being a makeweight in the Fab transfer.
You think Barca are going to bind him to a bed and ship him off to Arsenal?
If he says no. . . . Then it's no. Plus you never know, Barca may still offer cash for Fab.

Glad you said if - players say all sorts of things and then turn around later. Saying he won't be a makeweight now is fine and dandy, reality might be something else.

Secondly, Barca offering cash for Fab? I laugh in Catalunya.

That brokeass club is simply keeping the flame alive so Cesc doesn't sign another long deal and then they can sign him cheaply in 2 seasons. They can't afford Cesc, not even with their entire transfer pot for this season.

debosky:

Glad you said if - players say all sorts of things and then turn around later. Saying he won't be a makeweight now is fine and dandy, reality might be something else.

Secondly, Barca offering cash for Fab? I laugh in Catalunya.

That brokeass club is simply keeping the flame alive so Cesc doesn't sign another long deal and then they can sign him cheaply in 2 seasons. They can't afford Cesc, not even with their entire transfer pot for this season.

A make-weight decision is dependent on three important issues.
The club wanting the new player, the other club agreeing to the transfer terms and the make-weight agreeing to go the other way. Can you give me one good reason why Thiago should go to Arsenal from Barca?
The ecstatic feeling of celebrating a trophy is still fresh on his mind.



Barca only said they have a budget. They did not say they didn't have money to sign Fab.
I am guessing two things are crucial here.

1. They obviously do not value Fab at the figures Arsenal is quoting.
2. They are "perhaps" holding out to see if what will happen. They do not "need" him. Why should they pay that much?

nateevs:

A make-weight decision is dependent on three important issues.
The club wanting the new player, the other club agreeing to the transfer terms and the make-weight agreeing to go the other way. Can you give me one good reason why Thiago should go to Arsenal from Barca?
The ecstatic feeling of celebrating a trophy is still fresh on his mind.

Because he'll get more playing time and more exposure now. Why should a young player go to Chelski when other young players are bench warming or being sent on loan?

How many young players have gone to Chelski and become established in the first team?

Barca only said they have a budget. They did not say they didn't have money to sign Fab.
I am guessing two things are crucial here.

1. They obviously do not value Fab at the figures Arsenal is quoting.
2. They are "perhaps" holding out to see if what will happen. They do not "need" him. Why should they pay that much?

Good points - the most crucial point is absent though, Arsenal will not sell if Barca fail to meet their valuation.

it's not like barcelona cannot afford cesc. . . .they actually think fab has depreciated after having a stinker last season.

Chei!!!! See logic. Can someone please tell this dude about a player called Michael Carrick?

I never said playing for United guarantees him playing more for England, i said it can only help his cause. I'm pretty sure Carrick played more regularly for England at United than at Spurs.

If he fails to live up to expectations. You are not saying that's not possible are you?

Now this is the kind of logic that should be greeted with "Chei!!!" It is incredibly daft even by your pitiful standards.

He's not going to fail to live up to expectations overnight, surely he must have played for England again before he's deemed a failure at United. Walcott failed to live up to expectations for years at Arsenal but still started games for England.

coogar:

it's not like barcelona cannot afford cesc. . . .they actually think fab has depreciated after having a stinker last season.

They can't afford him because he is a luxury - if they pay the fee Arsenal is asking for and he has to sit on the bench, that doesn't make sense.

Xavi is still at the peak of his powers and Cesc will always be a sub compared to him, so paying over 40m for a bench warmer is madness, even for Barca.

Even with the so called stinker of last, he made 14 assists. He's still young, still getting better and still has 4 seasons on his contract. The rubbish about depreciation is only being peddled in the hope that Arsenal would accept a lower fee. Better chance of Arsene signing Remi Garde again than accepting a reduced valuation on Cesc.

debosky:

They can't afford him because he is a luxury - if they pay the fee Arsenal is asking for and he has to sit on the bench, that doesn't make sense.

they can afford him. . . . .they just don't value him that much. . . .there's nothing wrong with a £40m player sitting on the bench for big teams. . . kaka does for real madrid, berbatov does for man utd, etc. barcelona are a big team with the smallest squad size ever - they need cesc and they will rotate with xavi/iniesta.

Xavi is still at the peak of his powers and Cesc will always be a sub compared to him, so paying over 40m for a bench warmer is madness, even for Barca.

xavi won't start all the 50 games in one season. xavi is getting old too. barcelona would be thinking of playing him in the big games only and cesc can come on in the insignificant games to keep xavi fresh for the top games.

Even with the so called stinker of last, he made 14 assists. He's still young, still getting better and still has 4 seasons on his contract. The rubbish about depreciation is only being peddled in the hope that Arsenal would accept a lower fee. Better chance of Arsene signing Remi Garde again than accepting a reduced valuation on Cesc.

so you don't think cesc had a better season 12 months ago than last season?

I think Pedro will be the one sitting on the bench if Cesc goes to Barca.

they can even sell pedro to inter milan or do a part-exchange with arsenal to snap cesc.

ritchboy:

I think Pedro will be the one sitting on the bench if Cesc goes to Barca.

You are still trolling hard ?

coogar:

they can afford him. . . . .they just don't value him that much. . . .there's nothing wrong with a £40m player sitting on the bench for big teams. . . kaka does for real madrid, berbatov does for man utd, etc. barcelona are a big team with the smallest squad size ever - they need cesc and they will rotate with xavi/iniesta.

Barca doesn't put £40m players on the bench, it's not their style. Secondly, it is a bit daft to be chasing a bench warmer season after season in the press. In my view, it is simply a reminder to Cesc not to sign another deal, so that when they want him they'll get him cheap.

xavi won't start all the 50 games in one season. xavi is getting old too. barcelona would be thinking of playing him in the big games only and cesc can come on in the insignificant games to keep xavi fresh for the top games.

So you pay £40m for a player to play insignificant games?? Why not play Alcantara instead?

so you don't think cesc had a better season 12 months ago than last season?

Obviously not, but it was more down to injury than anything else. Cesc hasn't had a summer off for years and the toll eventually showed last season.

Cesc will be back to his sterling best in August after getting a proper summer break.

ritchboy:

I think Pedro will be the one sitting on the bench if Cesc goes to Barca.

Witchboy? Can you explain how you came about this s.t.upid?
Pedro had 22 goals and 10 assists in 54 apps. Last season.
122 apps, 45 goals, 14 assists all time for Barca.

Are you smoking your shishin again?

debosky:

Barca doesn't put £40m players on the bench, it's not their style. Secondly, it is a bit daft to be chasing a bench warmer season after season in the press. In my view, it is simply a reminder to Cesc not to sign another deal, so that when they want him they'll get him cheap.

So you pay £40m for a player to play insignificant games?? Why not play Alcantara instead?

How much was paid for Chrygynsky and Mascherano never mind a club who has spend over 100m on a striking position in 24months A position which wasnt even problematic.

Barca has the money to pay only that they dont think Cesc deserves that much. They flung 65m at Zlatan, 40 at Villa, 22 at Chrygynsky etc

Obviously not, but it was more down to injury than anything else. Cesc hasn't had a summer off for years and the toll eventually showed last season.

Pls what has he been doing in the summer that Xavi, Villa, Iniesta and co havent been doing? Well sitting on the bench must be tiring these days.

Was Zlatan or Villa bought to bench warm?

The really expensive players are bought to start.

dayokanu:


Pls what has he been doing in the summer that Xavi, Villa, Iniesta and co havent been doing? Well sitting on the bench must be tiring these days.

Cesc was playing regularly at a younger age than those players you mentioned. He needs a proper break to recuperate and return to form.

coogar:

Ashley Young has scored 32 goals in the Premier League - 100% on his right foot, 34.4% from outside the box, 37.5% from dead balls. #MUFC

This is my main if not only concern. Young is  not really a genuinely 2-footed player. He is a predominately right footed winger, who plays well from d left. I would prefer a genuine left footer.

^^ So your worry is the foot he used, not that he doesn't score?

debosky:

Was Zlatan or Villa bought to bench warm?
The really expensive players are bought to start.

like chrygynsky?

Cesc was playing regularly at a younger age than those players you mentioned. He needs a proper break to recuperate and return to form.

what has playing regularly at a younger age gotta do with this? messi started playing regularly at a younger age and he averages 50 games a season. his form has never been in question. barcelona don't rate cesc enough. . . .if they want him that desperately, they will match arsenal's valuation.

they made more than £100m in prize money after last season's campaign. . . . .

Witchboy? Can you explain how you came about this s.t.upid?
Pedro had 22 goals and 10 assists in 54 apps. Last season.
177 apps, 62 goals, 14 assists all time for Barca.

Are you smoking your shishin again?

You are a phat phool!!! 62 goals form where? I count 45. Oh, I see you went to his Wikipedia page and foolishly added the goals he scored for the B team, DUNCE!!

45 goals and 14 assists in 122 appearances for a Barcelona forward is nothing to ring home about.

Pedro cannot lace Cesc's boots. He will only play ahead of him if Pep wants an extra forward.

Of course there will be some rotation but i guess this is how they'll line up more often than not.

         Busquets

        Xavi    Cesc

      Messi   Iniesta
     
              Villa

debosky:

Was Zlatan or Villa bought to bench warm?

The really expensive players are bought to start.

The point is that Barca dont have a money problem, Banks in Spain would always bail them out They bought Mascherano and Chrygynsky when they were not going to be starters.

They bought Zlatan and flung him 12 months later for a fraction. They would have no money spending 40m for Fab to sit on the bench

Cesc was playing regularly at a younger age than those players you mentioned. He needs a proper break to recuperate and return to form.

Younger age? Fab is 24, and he barely play in those competition. Its just like pepe reina complaining of fatigue from Spains summer

ritchboy:

You are a phat phool!!! 62 goals form where? I count 45. Oh, I see you went to his Wikipedia page and foolishly added the goals he scored for the B team, DUNCE!!

45 goals and 14 assists in 122 appearances for a Barcelona forward is nothing to ring home about.

Pedro cannot lace Cesc's boots. He will only play ahead of him if Pep wants an extra forward.

Of course there will be some rotation but i guess this is how they'll line up more often than not.

Busquets

Xavi Cesc

Messi Iniesta

Villa

Dont bother your self, Barcelona would never play that formation, Only 2 of those are genuine scorers Messi and Villa.

Busquet is the DM and would always play ahead of Fabregas

Cesc isnt as creative as Xavi or Iniesta so cant bench any of them

Neither does he score as well as pedro, Messi.

So he would always sit on the bench as long as Xavi and Iniesta are fit enough or the Game isnt an important one.

ritchboy:

45 goals and 14 assists in 122 appearances for a Barcelona forward is nothing to ring home about.

how so? he started from the bench more times than starts. . . .i think pedro is an excellent player. . .he has done more at barcelona than cesc has done for arsenal in everyone's opinion.

Pedro cannot lace Cesc's boots. He will only play ahead of him if Pep wants an extra forward.

how did you come up with this comparison? cesc is a central midfielder, pedro is a wing forward. pedro copped more minutes at the world cup than cesc!

Of course there will be some rotation but i guess this is how they'll line up more often than not.

         Busquets

        Xavi    Cesc

      Messi   Iniesta
     
              Villa

messi will play in the middle, villa will move to the flanks.