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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by olsmade(m): 2:06pm On Feb 27, 2020
Yankee101:
Opportunity for qualified doctors looking for jobs

Even if they are Indian, bring them in

Qualified doctors with Phds sitting around waiting for uch jobs abi?

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Yankee101: 2:06pm On Feb 27, 2020
Ask for your postgraduate activities rather to be converted to a PHD.

Doctors lecture and attend to hospitals, they don't do both properly. I know of consultants who deliver instructions to senior registrars via phone.

And they don't do call duty, even though their names will be on the roster and they'll get paid

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by eagleeye2: 2:06pm On Feb 27, 2020
Yankee101:
Opportunity for qualified doctors looking for jobs

Even if they are Indian, bring them in
Those trained as doctors are fleeing the country, na Indians you want make dem come suffer?
Do you know how many of your Nigerians that seek treatment in India

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by babesiosis: 2:07pm On Feb 27, 2020
NOL2dworld:
Most of this Medical consultants earn good pay but they will still strike to suffer sick innocent citizens.

The strike should be No work No pay.
What you see as good money is meagre to them. However, to your likes,such money is big. What is the work of Nigerian Senators earning such huge amount?
Can you compare what Nigerian medical practitioner earn with that of their colleagues overseas? That's why most of them are migrating to all these advanced countries where they earn good pay and live a quality life.

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Adelekesaka(m): 2:07pm On Feb 27, 2020
Well sha make i reserve my comment
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by arthorjnr(m): 2:07pm On Feb 27, 2020
lawrenzooo:
I think NUC should give a time frame after which this policy would kick off. Let's say a five year period so those involved could possible start applying for their PHD

The policy is a load of bullsh.

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Kolping: 2:08pm On Feb 27, 2020
NUC Develops Academic Postgraduate Programmes in Medicine
25 June 2018

https://www.nuc.edu.ng/nuc-develops-academic-postgraduate-programmes-in-medicine/

In its bid to meet the academic postgraduate requirements of Nigerian University System, the National Universities Commission (NUC), has developed academic postgraduate programmes in medicine. The programme is designed to award Masters, Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) and Doctor of Medicine (MD).

The Executive Secretary, NUC, Professor Abubakar Adamu Rasheed, mni, MFR, FNAL highlighted the general need to overhaul the medical curricula for both undergraduate and postgraduate programmes.

He said this at a meeting with some Deans of Post Graduate schools and Provosts of Colleges of Medicine of Nigerian Universities last Wednesday in the Commission.

In his address, the Executive Secretary stressed the need to enhance and refresh the medical profession, hence the decision by the Commission to assemble experts in the medical profession to develop the curriculum which include graduates of Medicine and Dentistry who were lecturers currently on their fellowship, could now undertake their PhD concurrently with some concession.

He said it was necessary to re-introduce the option of MD by publication to provide opportunity for many Professors to keep contributing new knowledge for as long as they wanted without the rigors of interfacing with any supervisor.

Professor Rasheed informed the meeting that the PhD was not a replacement of the fellowship training in the medical field but an option to the medical profession as a whole. It would henceforth be a pre-requisite for any medical professional that wanted to pursue the teaching career.

He explained that the said doctorate degree was strictly for the graduates of medicine and not for other science disciplines which could be acquired not only through thesis but also through publications in high impact journals.

He stressed that every scholar shall publish a minimum of 5 articles on the same topic and the publication date must not be earlier than the date of registration for the programme.

The 3 categories of people that would be allowed to get a PhD included:


1. Those that must have enrolled in the fellowship programme of either the national or West African medical schools and successfully passed the part one of either or both and embark on the part 2 without a Masters degree can be allowed to start their part 2 and enroll for a PhD too. The student should be expected to work on the 2 projects at the same time but can be given a very good concession from the National Post Graduate Medical College to serve as incentive.

He added that if a student registered for fellowship in medical college and he/she completed the PhD before he/she submit himself for the final exam in Lagos and had successfully defended the PhD thesis, the medical college could examine him on several other issues but waive the thesis requirement and adopt the PhD thesis in its place.

2. Those Fellows who want to have a PhD in addition to other qualifications could register for the programme without any requirements or course work, but would be required to write a thesis within specified period under the supervision of a very reliable lecturer.

3. And those who were not interested in becoming fellows but have very good MBBS degrees but want an MSc and a PhD.

The Executive Secretary also commended [b]the leadership of MDCN (Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria) [/b]for sheathing their swords and joining in the intense discussions on matters that they were very passionate about and advised that coming together to develop the health sector was more important than being at loggerheads, as NUC and other professional bodies were all geared at championing the same course.

He also informed them that there was need for MDCN and NUC to meet and discuss appropriate undergraduate admission quota for colleges of medicine.

He expressed his gratitude to all of them present on their doggedness at maintaining a very impressive standard in the medical education.

In his speech, the Director, Directorate of Academic Planning, Dr. Gidado B. Kumo, said that the meeting with Deans of Post Graduate schools and Provosts of Colleges of Medicine in Nigerian Universities was very necessary because they were authorities in the matter and had to be kept abreast of any development on issues pertaining to requirements for admission into any degree awarding programme.

He said the Commission needed to discuss with them as stakeholders to arrest any area of difficulty that a student might come across in his university in the pursuit of his PhD and also make them the Commission’s ambassadors when matters arise in their respective university Senates.

The Executive Secretary, Medical Schools for Africa and Provost, University of Ibadan Medical School, Professor E. Oluwabunmi Olapade – Olaopa on behalf of the Deans and Provosts present, thanked the Executive Secretary, NUC for introducing the doctor of medicine MD option into the medical practice in Nigeria. He agreed that medical education was a continuum and therefore a PhD for the medical school was very important in order to reverse the dearth of doctors in the society and keep the system as fresh as possible.

He added that though research was important, of greater importance was establishing a link between the research from the PhDs and the clinical medicine, to know the impact of your research clinically.

He hoped that the standard of the qualification would be of high quality and urged the lecturers to continuously participate in the supervision of the doctorate thesis, regardless of whether they belonged to the clinical field or basic sciences, to promote synergy and continuous training that will ensure the profession boasts of more doctors with research degrees.

Professor Oluwabunmi particularly stressed the need to keep doctors in-country and provide them with the same degrees they go to seek in other countries. While keeping them busy with the PhD and MD degrees, they should be encouraged to write publications and keep adding knowledge and value to the medical field. This, he said would drive the development of effective health systems nationwide.

Present at the meeting were Provosts of some Colleges of Medicine and some Deans of Post Graduate Schools of Nigerian universities. The NUC Team included, Dr. Gidado Bello Kumo, Pharmacist Audu, Mrs. Nwosu and other staff of the Directorate of Academic Planning.



lawrenzooo:
I think NUC should give a time frame after which this policy would kick off. Let's say a five year period so those involved could possible start applying for their PHD
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Kazeem2222(m): 2:08pm On Feb 27, 2020
Ibadan people sha but most of this medical staffs earn more na.. It is well.. Meanwhile I just wanna let you guys know my favorite singer will be dropping his studio album soon.. Kizz Daniel

https://abegabeg.com/kizz-daniel-ready-to-drop-his-3rd-studio-album-titled-king-of-love/
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by 247AMBULANCELAG: 2:09pm On Feb 27, 2020
Haaa

How will they cope?
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by OttHin: 2:09pm On Feb 27, 2020
Issokay
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by AmazingELixir: 2:10pm On Feb 27, 2020
nextLevel things...Buharrrrri

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by moptop: 2:11pm On Feb 27, 2020
Medical Doctors with their arrogance.......
If you must be a lecturer then you should follow the rules of NUC(the regulating body)....
Are they above regulations?
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by nurex01(m): 2:11pm On Feb 27, 2020
Everything crumbling
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by d33types: 2:12pm On Feb 27, 2020
Kolping:
NUC Develops Academic Postgraduate Programmes in Medicine
25 June 2018

https://www.nuc.edu.ng/nuc-develops-academic-postgraduate-programmes-in-medicine/

In its bid to meet the academic postgraduate requirements of Nigerian University System, the National Universities Commission (NUC), has developed academic postgraduate programmes in medicine. The programme is designed to award Masters, Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) and Doctor of Medicine (MD).

The Executive Secretary, NUC, Professor Abubakar Adamu Rasheed, mni, MFR, FNAL highlighted the general need to overhaul the medical curricula for both undergraduate and postgraduate programmes.

He said this at a meeting with some Deans of Post Graduate schools and Provosts of Colleges of Medicine of Nigerian Universities last Wednesday in the Commission.

In his address, the Executive Secretary stressed the need to enhance and refresh the medical profession, hence the decision by the Commission to assemble experts in the medical profession to develop the curriculum which include graduates of Medicine and Dentistry who were lecturers currently on their fellowship, could now undertake their PhD concurrently with some concession.

He said it was necessary to re-introduce the option of MD by publication to provide opportunity for many Professors to keep contributing new knowledge for as long as they wanted without the rigors of interfacing with any supervisor.

Professor Rasheed informed the meeting that the PhD was not a replacement of the fellowship training in the medical field but an option to the medical profession as a whole. It would henceforth be a pre-requisite for any medical professional that wanted to pursue the teaching career.

He explained that the said doctorate degree was strictly for the graduates of medicine and not for other science disciplines which could be acquired not only through thesis but also through publications in high impact journals.

He stressed that every scholar shall publish a minimum of 5 articles on the same topic and the publication date must not be earlier than the date of registration for the programme.

The 3 categories of people that would be allowed to get a PhD included:


1. Those that must have enrolled in the fellowship programme of either the national or West African medical schools and successfully passed the part one of either or both and embark on the part 2 without a Masters degree can be allowed to start their part 2 and enroll for a PhD too. The student should be expected to work on the 2 projects at the same time but can be given a very good concession from the National Post Graduate Medical College to serve as incentive.

He added that if a student registered for fellowship in medical college and he/she completed the PhD before he/she submit himself for the final exam in Lagos and had successfully defended the PhD thesis, the medical college could examine him on several other issues but waive the thesis requirement and adopt the PhD thesis in its place.

2. Those Fellows who want to have a PhD in addition to other qualifications could register for the programme without any requirements or course work, but would be required to write a thesis within specified period under the supervision of a very reliable lecturer.

3. And those who were not interested in becoming fellows but have very good MBBS degrees but want an MSc and a PhD.

The Executive Secretary also commended [b]the leadership of MDCN (Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria) [/b]for sheathing their swords and joining in the intense discussions on matters that they were very passionate about and advised that coming together to develop the health sector was more important than being at loggerheads, as NUC and other professional bodies were all geared at championing the same course.

He also informed them that there was need for MDCN and NUC to meet and discuss appropriate undergraduate admission quota for colleges of medicine.

He expressed his gratitude to all of them present on their doggedness at maintaining a very impressive standard in the medical education.

In his speech, the Director, Directorate of Academic Planning, Dr. Gidado B. Kumo, said that the meeting with Deans of Post Graduate schools and Provosts of Colleges of Medicine in Nigerian Universities was very necessary because they were authorities in the matter and had to be kept abreast of any development on issues pertaining to requirements for admission into any degree awarding programme.

He said the Commission needed to discuss with them as stakeholders to arrest any area of difficulty that a student might come across in his university in the pursuit of his PhD and also make them the Commission’s ambassadors when matters arise in their respective university Senates.

The Executive Secretary, Medical Schools for Africa and Provost, University of Ibadan Medical School, Professor E. Oluwabunmi Olapade – Olaopa on behalf of the Deans and Provosts present, thanked the Executive Secretary, NUC for introducing the doctor of medicine MD option into the medical practice in Nigeria. He agreed that medical education was a continuum and therefore a PhD for the medical school was very important in order to reverse the dearth of doctors in the society and keep the system as fresh as possible.

He added that though research was important, of greater importance was establishing a link between the research from the PhDs and the clinical medicine, to know the impact of your research clinically.

He hoped that the standard of the qualification would be of high quality and urged the lecturers to continuously participate in the supervision of the doctorate thesis, regardless of whether they belonged to the clinical field or basic sciences, to promote synergy and continuous training that will ensure the profession boasts of more doctors with research degrees.

Professor Oluwabunmi particularly stressed the need to keep doctors in-country and provide them with the same degrees they go to seek in other countries. While keeping them busy with the PhD and MD degrees, they should be encouraged to write publications and keep adding knowledge and value to the medical field. This, he said would drive the development of effective health systems nationwide.

Present at the meeting were Provosts of some Colleges of Medicine and some Deans of Post Graduate Schools of Nigerian universities. The NUC Team included, Dr. Gidado Bello Kumo, Pharmacist Audu, Mrs. Nwosu and other staff of the Directorate of Academic Planning.




So NUC is stylishly succumbing. Nonsense people
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Nobody: 2:12pm On Feb 27, 2020
Iretii0511:
It's unfortunate how these people chose to hold authorities to random in order to drive home their point. This is nothing but pure blackmail

Really? When you have strained to attain a professional qualification needed for practice in a field as delicate as medicine, only for them to tell you you need an academic qualification. The medical practice is more comparable to a skill than a profession. Unskilled doctors kill people. Hence, the practice of qualification in clinical environment. Getting the certificate as an academician is subordinate to the requisite skill. The renowned consultant under whom you trained is enough, most times, to get you through job interviews as a doctor.
What do I know, sef? Maybe a PhD holder without the MBBS is on the line to become minister of health in a 'technical' fashion..

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by adeniyisamuel59(m): 2:13pm On Feb 27, 2020
The strike is ego driven, they should comply quickly or else....
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Nobody: 2:13pm On Feb 27, 2020
NOL2dworld:
Most of this Medical consultants earn good pay but they will still strike to suffer sick innocent citizens.

The strike should be No work No pay.

It is not about pay. It is about when one spends 20 years in several higher institutions; and millions of naira; to attain the highest possible qualification in one's field, and then another 20 years post qualification, the government comes out of the blue and tells him that he is not really qualified and needs to go back to school to qualify for the same job he has been doing for half of his life.

I am fully with the medics on this.

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by d33types: 2:15pm On Feb 27, 2020
RisenPhoenix:


It is not about pay. It is about when one spends 20 years in several higher institutions; and millions of naira; to attain the highest possible qualification in one's field, and then another 20 years post qualification, the government comes out of the blue and tells him that he is not really qualified and needs to go back to school to qualify for the same job he has been doing for half of his life.

Aptly captured

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Nobody: 2:15pm On Feb 27, 2020
A consultant in Nigeria receives 1million/month,but they Still don't want to get PhD so that they can automatically be able to work as a consultant and a lecturer which amounts to double salary without the proper qualification. Those mentioning abroad should research well,there is MD-phD programme abroad.

https://students-residents.aamc.org/applying-medical-school/article/mdphd-degree-programs-state/

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by worworbabe: 2:15pm On Feb 27, 2020
This news is old. The issues are already being resolved
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Skyken99(m): 2:17pm On Feb 27, 2020
NUC vs MDCAN . . Like for NUC Share for MDCAN

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Basic123: 2:18pm On Feb 27, 2020
Yankee101:
Ask for your postgraduate activities rather to be converted to a PHD.

Doctors lecture and attend to hospitals, they don't do both properly. I know of consultants who deliver instructions to senior registrars via phone.

And they don't do call duty, even though their names will be on the roster and they'll get paid
Lolz

IGNORANCE!


I know so many Ignorant people will want to contribute.People that know nothing about medical practice.

consultant is the highest rank you can acquire in a medical field....it's like asking the GM of a bank to come be attending to customers over the counter although they still attend to patients,do ward rounds(consultant WR),do surgeries....in addition to this they teach medical students, resident doctors, supervise thesis,conduct researches etc

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Nobody: 2:19pm On Feb 27, 2020
Nigeria! What country!
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by ENIGMATIC2023(m): 2:20pm On Feb 27, 2020
They are deceiving themselves... No PhD no lecturing period

I stand with NUC

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by ENIGMATIC2023(m): 2:21pm On Feb 27, 2020
Plantainman:
Really ? What happened?

Read before you comment
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Basic123: 2:22pm On Feb 27, 2020
moptop:
Medical Doctors with their arrogance.......
If you must be a lecturer then you should follow the rules of NUC(the regulating body)....
Are they above regulations?
You just criticize the demand just because you felt doctors are arrogant.


Do you think you are objective?
just assess your self?

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Iretii0511(m): 2:24pm On Feb 27, 2020
destinie2019:


Really? When you have strained to attain a professional qualification needed for practice in a field as delicate as medicine, only for them to tell you you need an academic qualification. The medical practice is more comparable to a skill than a profession. Unskilled doctors kill people. Hence, the practice of qualification in clinical environment. Getting the certificate as an academician is subordinate to the requisite skill. The renowned consultant under whom you trained is enough, most times, to get you through job interviews as a doctor.
What do I know, sef? Maybe a PhD holder without the MBBS is on the line to become minister of health in a 'technical' fashion..

If you would agree with me, this is more a matter of ego than it is of doing the right thing. Academics as a profession has its requirement the world over. While a graduate mechanical engineer may have worked in the field of engineering for 20 years with a lot of experience, to lecture, he still has to obtain a PhD which qualifies him as an academic.

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Enemyofpeace: 2:24pm On Feb 27, 2020
Herbal medicines to the rescue
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Correcto: 2:25pm On Feb 27, 2020
No work no pay should be effected. This is a useless strike. They should get a PhD to lecture and grow their career in the University.
Islie:
•Consultants protest PhD qualification criteria



https://thenationonlineng.net/over-300-medical-consultants-withdraw-services-from-uch-ui/

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by johnjay4u2u(m): 2:26pm On Feb 27, 2020
some Nigerians just hate doctors for no good reason. See the rubbish many wrote up here.


The rubbish politicians on your streets are there, you will be hailing them.
someone fighting for what's his/her right, then you see mumu everywhere insulting.
Do you know how other countries are welcoming Nigerian doctors.

Make una sit there o.
your eyes go clear soon.

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Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Smooyis(m): 2:27pm On Feb 27, 2020
I better not comment on what I know nothing about shocked shocked shocked
Re: 300 Medical Consultants Withdraw Services From UCH, University Of Ibadan by Nobody: 2:28pm On Feb 27, 2020
Iretii0511:
It's unfortunate how these people chose to hold authorities to ransome in order to drive home their point.
This is nothing but pure blackmail

It is not blackmail. They were told that they cannot teach without Phds, so they are not teaching. Let the NUC people go and teach na. Sebi NUC members have Phds.

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