Thonypadua:
bro stop defending them, there are some MBBS that didn't go for fellow rather to choose academics after there first degree and they can not practice only to teach many of them are not collecting up to the ⅓ of those consultant.

SctDonald:
..Academics is different from clinical practice. What NUC is trying to do is to separate them. If you want to go into academics, then after your MBBS program.. Msc, PhD, and prof.. But if you want to go into clinical practice, then follow the normal path..,and not combining the two.. More so, NUC is trying hinder them from having multiple or at dual jobs in federal institutions.. For instance, a consultant after working for some hours in hospital, will rush to class to lecture....If this is done, it will create room for government to absorbed those that studied courses like pure Anatomy, Physiology,... etc to lecture those courses to medical students....This is what those consultants saw, and decided to embark on strike.. This might affect their salary...

SctDonald:
..Academics is different from clinical practice. What NUC is trying to do is to separate them. If you want to go into academics, then after your MBBS program.. Msc, PhD, and prof.. But if you want to go into clinical practice, then follow the normal path..,and not combining the two.. More so, NUC is trying hinder them from having multiple or at dual jobs in federal institutions.. For instance, a consultant after working for some hours in hospital, will rush to class to lecture....If this is done, it will create room for government to absorbed those that studied courses like pure Anatomy, Physiology,... etc to lecture those courses to medical students....This is what those consultants saw, and decided to embark on strike.. This might affect their salary...

Correcto:
Lol obviously you know nothing. Recruiting Experienced Doctors from India and other Asia countries is quite easy once the government decides to. Just pray state of emergency should not be declared in the health sector, you know nothing. Don't ever think you can blackmail government, if you do they just allowed you.

edoairways:

Really!

NOL2dworld:
Most of this Medical consultants earn good pay but they will still strike to suffer sick innocent citizens.

The solution to their problem is not strike but dialogue.

kowalsky:



Lol many are mad but few are roaming.
Pure courses like anatomy and physiology lecturing obs/gyn.

The hate and envy Nigerians have for doctors will kill all of you one day.

Freddonance:


It's obvious you don't really know what is obtainable yet arguing.
medical undergraduate program is divided into two. 1 Basic medicine
2. clinical medicine.
only Consultants teach medical students in their clinical years. in basic medicine, u can have a combination of anatomist, physiologist, biochemists & doctors who decided to go through Msc, PhD. while Doctors in basic medicine are required to go through the Msc program & PhD, their clinical counterparts are consultants who have met the criteria to be one. What we are saying is that u don't force dis consultants to get PhD cos the residency program they went through is higher than PhD & they have much knowledge then their PhD counterparts in the profession. It is easier to get a PhD than it is to be a consultant.

Correcto:
Lol obviously you know nothing. Recruiting Experienced Doctors from India and other Asia countries is quite easy once the government decides to. Just pray state of emergency should not be declared in the health sector, you know nothing. Don't ever think you can blackmail government, if you do they just allowed you.

SctDonald:
...your problem is that you don't know the true definition of hatred or envy.., if you do,, you wouldn't have typed those words...
In clinical classes, 400 level to 600 level.., you don't need Anatomists or physiologist to lecture them. What you need is a man who have defined his path in any of the branches of medicine.. What NUC is trying to do, is if you want to become O&G lecturer,you should move through that line and become a prof...,but if you want to practice your O&G,follow that path and get to any level you want to but keep to either lecturing or practice... This will help reduce founding, and capture those who have been scamming FG..

emapeteum:
This could be one of the major reasons why we are not doing well in terms of research of international repute in the medical field simply because our medical Professors believe that fellowship is equal to a Ph.D.

Freddonance:


It's obvious you don't really know what is obtainable yet arguing.
medical undergraduate program is divided into two. 1 Basic medicine
2. clinical medicine.
only Consultants teach medical students in their clinical years. in basic medicine, u can have a combination of anatomist, physiologist, biochemists & doctors who decided to go through Msc, PhD. while Doctors in basic medicine are required to go through the Msc program & PhD, their clinical counterparts are consultants who have met the criteria to be one. What we are saying is that u don't force dis consultants to get PhD cos the residency program they went through is higher than PhD & they have much knowledge then their PhD counterparts in the profession. It is easier to get a PhD than it is to be a consultant.

Iretii0511:


You only see things from your perspective probably because you are a medic. I put it to you that if you would be a little more objective with your view, you would understand that the request of nuc is not a bad one. It's definitely geared toward making the profession better.

I'm sure students will gain more from a consultant with a PhD than a consultant without one.

CSTR2:
Doctors in the other parts of the world can design ingenious biomedical systems.
They make huge money from patents which they sell to big biomedical companies.

In Nigeria, you have a consultant of Cardiology that cannot design an artificial heart because they don't have the required doctoral training in research and innovation.

What are you teaching? Copy and paste?

SctDonald:
...The only mistake NUC did is the forcing of the consultants to obtain PhD.. You can't send them back to something that is less than what they have.. I think, what need to be done is to scrutinized the system properly because many or some of them who aren't gotten to that level are lecturing clinical classes..That is what NUC is also trying to purge off from the system..
And don't tell me consultants don't lecture basic medicine courses to medical students.., 60% of my lecturers at UNN, college of medicine are consultants,especially courses like Anatomy, embryology, Histology, Physiology.. And most of them do say it in class that year to us that we have chosen one of the best career path...

SctDonald:
...your problem is that you don't know the true definition of hatred or envy.., if you do,, you wouldn't have typed those words...
In clinical classes, 400 level to 600 level.., you don't need Anatomists or physiologist to lecture them. What you need is a man who have defined his path in any of the branches of medicine.. What NUC is trying to do, is if you want to become O&G lecturer,you should move through that line and become a prof...,but if you want to practice your O&G,follow that path and get to any level you want to but keep to either lecturing or practice... This will help reduce founding, and capture those who have been scamming FG..

CSTR2:

This is why no medical doctor in Nigeria will ever win a Nobel Prize.

The real question NUC is trying to ask is what is your practical contribution to medical science that warrant you a position to teach?

Freddonance:



Since they consider FG irrelevant to their practice, they've withdrawn their services in the university. let's now see how Nigeria will produce doctors from now on they NUC refuse to meet their demands. You think clinical lecturers lecture in the classroom most of the time?
No single lecturer spends more than 2hrs in a lecturer room in the hospital (except he has outstanding lectures). The bulk of the lectures happen in ward rounds (where he can spend 5-8hrs teaching students), in the theater, in the clinics where students can spend as much as 9hrs or even more with him. so what are you saying?

CSTR2:

As an undergraduate student, I was selected to work with a lecturer of mine who was applying for doctorate on a ptdf funded project.

The project was about building a feasible reactor that can covert common sawdust to usable liquid fuel.

It was successful, and the fuel was 90% chemically and physically comparable to common diesel fuel.

That is innovation that only a doctorate will force out of you.

The project is now a property of the federal government.

SctDonald:
...The only mistake NUC did is the forcing of the consultants to obtain PhD.. You can't send them back to something that is less than what they have.. I think, what need to be done is to scrutinized the system properly because many or some of them who aren't gotten to that level are lecturing clinical classes..That is what NUC is also trying to purge off from the system..
And don't tell me consultants don't lecture basic medicine courses to medical students.., 60% of my lecturers at UNN, college of medicine are consultants,especially courses like Anatomy, embryology, Histology, Physiology.. And most of them do say it in class that year to us that we have chosen one of the best career path...

moptop:
Medical Doctors with their arrogance.......
If you must be a lecturer then you should follow the rules of NUC(the regulating body)....
Are they above regulations?

SctDonald:
...your problem is that you don't know the true definition of hatred or envy.., if you do,, you wouldn't have typed those words...
In clinical classes, 400 level to 600 level.., you don't need Anatomists or physiologist to lecture them. What you need is a man who have defined his path in any of the branches of medicine.. What NUC is trying to do, is if you want to become O&G lecturer,you should move through that line and become a prof...,but if you want to practice your O&G,follow that path and get to any level you want to but keep to either lecturing or practice... This will help reduce founding, and capture those who have been scamming FG..

Yankee101:
Opportunity for qualified doctors looking for jobs

Even if they are Indian, bring them in

CSTR2:

lol
Go to PTDF office in Abuja.

Coolcalmcollect:
the doctor shoukd travel out, fighting for these useless nigerian citizens is a waste of time. most of them will support politician dat can afford to travel out for headaches. stupid nigerians

Iretii0511:


At first, I suppose you understand the word 'probably' to mean the same thing it meant to me. If that is correct, my theory still stands.
Second, a graduate or masters degree holder with lots of research is still not in the league of a PhD with a single desertation assuming all other factors remain constant. Do you think a COREN registered engineer with over 20 years of experience will lecture machine design better than a PhD holder?