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Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by LagosShia: 4:12pm On Aug 08, 2012
brainpulse:

You know yourself that what you wrote down are untrue and full of lies. If you dont have family members up north then some people are telling you lies. At least you have your media houses too, they report the same inhuman killings of the islamist fundamentalist. And they also come out to say they are killing for Allah, that they were sent by him.

[size=18pt]Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"? [/size]
By Huda, About.com Guide

Question: Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"?
Answer: The Qur'an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle -- i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context.
There are some specific verses that are very often "snipped" out of context, either by critics of Islam discussing "jihadism," or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.


"Slay Them" - If They Attack You First
For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter, But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful, If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back -- but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.


"Fight the Pagans" - If They Break Treaties
A similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 -- which in its snipped, out of context version could read: "fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.
This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them, (as quoted above).

Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, "but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them, for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that "as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous."


Conclusion
Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur'an. Nowhere in the Qur'an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in 'payback' for another people's alleged crimes.
The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Qur'an 60:7-8 ) :
"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."

http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by amunites19(m): 4:16pm On Aug 08, 2012
Propher Muhammad was forced fight and he fougth 2 depends himself; when he started preaching his enemeis were very wicked to him and his followers there was a time he has to send his followers to Africa because they could not show themselves as muslims letter he decided to move to another town but do you known that these people still flow him to again want 2 fight him, so what do you want him to do?
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by skullbaba: 4:17pm On Aug 08, 2012
salam. The problem of muslim all over the world is lack education and proudness. The good part of christianity has been add to islam and the rest is shit. The ulammas are making matter worse because of their ego
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by maclatunji: 4:18pm On Aug 08, 2012
amunites19: Propher Muhammad was forced fight and he fougth 2 depends himself; when he started preaching his enemeis were very wicked to him and his followers there was a time he has to send his followers to Africa because they could not show themselves as muslims letter he decided to move to another town but do you known that these people still flow him to again want 2 fight him, so what do you want him to do?

Fair question.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brainpulse: 4:23pm On Aug 08, 2012
quote author=amunites19Propher Muhammad was forced fight and he fougth 2 depends himself; when he started preaching his enemeis were very wicked to him and his followers there was a time he has to send his followers to Africa because they could not show themselves as muslims letter he decided to move to another town but do you known that these people still flow him to again want 2 fight him, so what do you want him to do?[/quote]


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Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Bella3(f): 4:29pm On Aug 08, 2012
The message of Jesus is nw turned to mockery! Bt seriously, if only muslims did wat u posted in this thread, the world wil be a beta place by 60%

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Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Nobody: 4:32pm On Aug 08, 2012
Ehhh! BOKO HARAM TINZ trendn! am out man
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Adehwale: 4:41pm On Aug 08, 2012
karpentar: @zackson4real



How can you claim to love Jesus (the prince of peace) whilst your Muhammad disbelieves the two great truths of the Bible's Jesus (the prince of peace): Jesus (the prince of peace) is the Son of God and only His atoning sacrifice opens for us the acceptance of God.

The apostles of Jesus (the prince of peace) have written for us the teachings of Jesus (the prince of peace), which are conflicting with the teachings of Muhammad. Who tells the truth? Isn't it easier to trust in the apostles who lived together with Jesus (the prince of peace) than to trust in Muhammad who lived 600 years later? Either Muhammad lies or the Apostles, but the both cannot be the witnesses of the same God.

If you are a Muslim, I urge you to appeal to Jesus (the prince of peace) of the Bible. You can get the forgiveness of your sins only from Him, because only He can pay to God the wages of your sins. If you hold on to the good and give up the bad, one day you will confess that Jesus (the prince of peace) is your Lord. It might just be today. The choice is yours.
What u dont know is, even Islam considers phophet Issah (asw) otherwise known as jesus as one of the most respected and most adored prophet that ever came into existence. But being religiously inclined is far more than that, he came just like any other prophet to preach the word of God to the whole world. But i really did not see any where in the bible where he said you should compare him to the most high (Allah). Christians go as far as saying 'jesus is lord' meaning you can otherwise call him God, which is a big sin to God. Even the first commandment in the bible says 'I am the God, your lord' and to the best of my knowledge i havent seen anywhere in the bible where he stated if there is any other 'lord' except him. And throughout jesus's life he only preached the words of God and never told anyone to serve him. He wasnt to the first prophet neither was he the last. God sent the last prophet. Muhammed (saw) to lead the whole world through the right path as laid down by other prophet that came before him. He came to show the whole world (for those who believe in God) the rights and norms of Allah, show them how to serve and worship him. He came with laid down protocols on how to worship Allah and anyone who believes in the existence of God and the day of judgement, should follow the preaching of prophet muhammed(saw) in respect to all other prophets that came before him.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by buJu234: 4:43pm On Aug 08, 2012
if only muslims did wat u posted in this thread, the world wil be a beta place by 60%

because the Hindus;Jews; Christians etc will all have relative peace
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Nobody: 4:43pm On Aug 08, 2012
LagosShia:

boko haram have killed more muslims and northerners than christians and southerners.

someone is busy cutting himself and you are busy crying from the wound.are you for real?

you only have the right to have fear that they may bring their bloodshed down south and seek ways to stop that.

but as usual,it is all about christian missionary propaganda to win souls against Islam even if that means trading the blood of innocent christians up north who are victims of boko haram terrorism.
in a waY its okay for them to keep killing as long as its their right abi? But they have made it their ambition to kill non muslims and unfortunately muslim caught in the line of fire, doesnt make your first statement true that muslims are killed more. Abi? Thanks for those verses will read them in context to get the idea than just take it out of context to mean what i want them to mean.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Saintparis1: 4:46pm On Aug 08, 2012
psst What are these people talking about? Muhammad killed those that insulted him.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by maclatunji: 4:48pm On Aug 08, 2012
Saint paris: psst What are these people talking about? Muhammad killed those that insulted him.

LOL, learn to separate fact from fiction. There are over a billion Muslims in the world. There wouldn't be much of a world left if we are all killers as you want us to believe.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by emmasege: 4:56pm On Aug 08, 2012
abbey621: I could care less about religion. It's nothing but one group or the other trying to enforce their point of view about the best way to worship God. I have yet to seen anyone that died and came back to reveal that Christianity or Islam is the true religion, and until that happens Christianity is not superior to Islam and Islam is not superior to Christianity. Throughout history it has been one group killing the other, earlier it was Christianity doing most of the killings, with the wicked roman churches and nowadays Islam has grown stronger and dark and evil minded extremists have misinterpreted the religion and taken the law into their own hands. The biggest tragedy of all in regards to Nigeria is that, the issue is not even religion, it's more of a ethnic, political and poverty triggered manipulation of the populace, you ignorant fools are so blind that you celebrate pastors, general overseers, alfas and sultans and put them on a holy pedestal, when most of them are nothing but crooks willing to watch you and your neighbor destroy each other.

Well, i'd like to tell u that ur concern about someone coming from the dead to tell us the right way, was addressed by Jesus while on earth when he told the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. the rich man was in hell after leaving this world and begged that someone be sent to earth to warn his loved ones not to join him in hell. U know what Jesus said- THEY HAVE PROPHETS AMONG THEM. IF THEY WOULD NOT LISTEN TO THE PROPHETS, NEITHER WOULD THEY LISTEN EVEN IF ANYONE ROSE FROM THE DEAD. Furthermore, I recently listened to a man of God (Pastor Abraham) who died and came back to the earth. His testimony is a proof to the eternal truth that JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE (NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THRU HIM). This is not to say that identifying with christianity as a religion is the gateway to heaven, but christianity as a way of life is. We will be well surprised to know also that some people who were not known here as christians may be found in heaven (just like the thief on the cross with Jesus who made a last minute decision for Christ) while the highly celebrated xtians here on earth would be missen.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brainpulse: 4:57pm On Aug 08, 2012
I dont believe my post can be hidden even when it has no word of hate and harm. Whao
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by informatix: 4:58pm On Aug 08, 2012
Thank you. Very Much. Disrespect for other Religion is a sign of lack of respect for your religion.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by aryzgreat: 5:00pm On Aug 08, 2012
For those dat can muster the courage to read the below, pls do and get to know why some of ur muslim members commit terorist act. The brainwashing below materialised into 9/11 attack. happy reading


FOLLOWING IS MOHAMED ATTA’S FINAL INSTRUCTIONS

One of the few - and certainly the most remarkable and troubling - glimpses into the minds and motives of the men who wrought the slaughter of 11 September is a four-page document, written in Arabic, found in the baggage of the suspected ringleader behind the carnage, Mohamed Atta. For 10 translations of these Quranic verses quoted by Atta go to http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/

THE LAST NIGHT



1) Making an oath to die and renew your intentions.

Shave excess hair from the body and wear cologne.

Shower

2) Make sure you know all aspects of the plan well, and expect the response, or a reaction, from the enemy.

3) Read al-Tawba and Anfal [Surahs 8 and 9 -- traditional war chapters from the Qur'an] and reflect on their meanings and remember all of the things God has promised for the martyrs.

4) Remind your soul to listen and obey [all divine orders] and remember that you will face decisive situations that might prevent you from 100 per cent obedience, so tame your soul, purify it, convince it, make it understand, and incite it. God said: 'Obey God and His Messenger, and do not fight amongst yourselves or else you will fail. And be patient, for God is with the patient.'(Surah 8:46)

5) Pray during the night and be persistent in asking God to give you victory, control and conquest, and that He may make your task easier and not expose us.

6) Remember God frequently, and the best way to do it is to read the Holy Qur'an, according to all scholars, as far as I know. It is enough for us that it [the Qur'an] are the words of the Creator of the Earth and the plants, the One that you will meet [on the Day of Judgment].

7) Purify your soul from all unclean things. Completely forget something called 'this world' [or 'this life']. The time for play is over and the serious time is upon us. How much time have we wasted in our lives? Shouldn't we take advantage of these last hours to offer good deeds and obedience?

cool You should feel complete tranquility, because the time between you and your marriage [in heaven] is very short. Afterwards begins the happy life, where God is satisfied with you, and eternal bliss 'in the company of the prophets, the companions, the martyrs and the good people, who are all good company' (Surah 4:69). Ask God for his mercy and be optimistic, because [the Prophet], peace be upon him, used to prefer optimism in all his affairs.

9) Keep in mind that, if you fall into hardship, how will you act and how will you remain steadfast and remember that you will return to God and remember that anything that happens to you could never be avoided, and what did not happen to you could never have happened to you. This test from Almighty God is to raise your level [levels of heaven] and erase your sins. And be sure that it is a matter of moments, which will then pass, God willing, so blessed are those who win the great reward of God. Almighty God said: 'Did you think you could go to heaven before God knows whom amongst you have fought for Him and are patient?'(Surah 3:142)

10) Remember the words of Almighty God: 'You were looking to the battle before you engaged in it, and now you see it with your own two eyes.' (Surah 3:143) Remember: 'How many small groups beat big groups by the will of God.' (Surah 2:249)And His words: 'If God gives you victory, no one can beat you. And if He betrays you, who can give you victory without Him? So the faithful put their trust in God.' (Surah 3:160)

11) Remind yourself of the supplications and of your brethren and ponder their meanings. (The morning and evening supplications, and the supplications of [entering] a town, and the [unclear] supplications, and the supplications said before meeting the enemy.

12) Bless your body with some verses of the Qur'an [done by reading verses into one's hands and then rubbing the hands over whatever is to be blessed], the luggage, clothes, the knife, your personal effects, your ID, passport, and all your papers.

13) Check your weapon before you leave and long before you leave. (You must make your knife sharp and must not discomfort your animal during the slaughter).

14) Tighten your clothes [a reference to making sure his clothes will cover his private parts at all times], since this is the way of the pious generations after the Prophet. They would tighten their clothes before battle. Tighten your shoes well, wear socks so that your feet will be solidly in your shoes. All of these are worldly things [that humans can do to control their fate, although God decrees what will work and what won't] and the rest is left to God, the best One to depend on.

15) Pray the morning prayer in a group and ponder the great rewards of that prayer. Make supplications afterwards, and do not leave your apartment unless you have performed ablution before leaving, because the angels will ask for your forgiveness as long as you are in a state of ablution, and will pray for you. This saying of the Prophet was mentioned by An-Nawawi in his book, The Best of Supplications. Read the words of God: 'Did you think that We created you for no reason...' from the Al-Mu'minun Chapter (Surah 23:115).

THE SECOND STEP

When the taxi takes you to (M) [this initial could stand for matar, airport in Arabic] remember God constantly while in the car. (Remember the supplication for entering a car, for entering a town, the supplication of place and other supplications).

When you have reached (M) and have left the taxi, say a supplication of place ['Oh Lord, I ask you for the best of this place, and ask you to protect me from its evils'], and everywhere you go say that prayer and smile and be calm, for God is with the believers. And the angels protect you without you feeling anything. Say this supplication: 'God is more dear than all of His creation.' And say: 'Oh Lord, protect me from them as You wish.' And say: 'Oh Lord, take your anger out on [the enemy] and we ask You to protect us from their evils.' And say: 'Oh Lord, block their vision from in front of them, so that they may not see.' And say: 'God is all we need, He is the best to rely upon.' Remember God's words: 'Those to whom the people said, "The people have gathered to get you, so fear them," but that only increased their faith and they said, God is all we need, He is the best to rely upon.' (Surah 3:173) After you say that, you will find [unclear] as God promised this to his servants who say this supplicationsadSupplications –du’a – are prayers of submission, many taken from Abu Dawudhadiths.)

1) They will come back [from battle] with God's blessings

2) They were not harmed

3) And God was satisfied with them.

God says: 'They came back with God's blessings, were not harmed, and God was satisfied with them, and God is ever-blessing.'(Surah 3:174)

All of their equipment and gates and technology will not prevent, nor harm, except by God's will. The believers do not fear such things. The only ones that fear it are the allies of Satan, who are the brothers of the devil. They have become their allies, God save us, for fear is a great form of worship, and the only one worthy of it is God. He is the only one who deserves it. He said in the verses: 'This is only the Devil scaring his allies' who are fascinated with Western civilization, and have drank the love [of the West] like they drink water [unclear] and have become afraid of their weak equipment, 'so fear them not, and fear Me, if you are believers.'(Surah 3:175)

Fear is a great worship. The allies of God do not offer such worship except for the one God, who controls everything. [unclear] with total certainty that God will weaken the schemes of non-believers. God said: 'God will weaken the schemes of the non-believers.' (Surah 8:18)

You must remember your brothers with all respect. No one should notice that you are making the supplication, 'There is no God but God,' (Surah 37:35) because if you say it 1,000 times no one will be able to tell whether you are quiet or remember God. And among its miracles is what the Prophet, peace be upon him, said: 'Whoever says, "There is no God but God," with all his heart, goes to heaven.' The prophet, peace be upon him, said: 'If you put all the worlds and universes on one side of the balance, and "No God but God" on the other, "No God but God" will weigh more heavily.' (Sunan al-Tirmidhi hadith number 731) You can repeat these words confidently, and this is just one of the strengths of these words. Whoever thinks deeply about these words will find that they have no dots [in the Arabic letter] and this is just one of its greatnesses, for words that have dots in them carry less weight than those that do not. And it is enough that these are the words of monotheism, which will make you steadfast in battle [unclear] as the prophet, peace be upon him, and his companions, and those who came after them, God willing, until the Day of Judgment.

Do not seem confused or show signs of nervous tension. Be happy, optimistic, calm because you are heading for a deed that God loves and will accept. It will be the day, God willing, you spend with the women of paradise.

[poetry] Smile in the face of hardship young man/For you are heading toward eternal paradise

You must remember to make supplications wherever you go, and anytime you do anything, and God is with his faithful servants, He will protect them and make their tasks easier, and give them success and control, and victory, and everything...

THE THIRD PHASE

When you ride the (T) [probably for tayyara, aeroplane in Arabic], before your foot steps in it, and before you enter it, you make a prayer and supplications. Remember that this is a battle for the sake of God. As the prophet, peace be upon him, said, 'An action for the sake of God is better than all of what is in this world.' (Bukhari hadith Vol. 4, Book 52, Number 53) When you step inside the (T), and sit in your seat, begin with the known supplications that we have mentioned before. Be busy with the constant remembrance of God. God said: 'Oh ye faithful, when you find the enemy be steadfast, and remember God constantly so that you may be successful.' (Surah 8:45)When the (T) moves, even slightly, toward (Q) [unknown reference], say the supplication of travel. Because you are traveling to Almighty God, so be attentive on this trip.

Then [unclear] it takes off. This is the moment that both groups come together. So remember God, as He said in His book: 'Oh Lord, pour your patience upon us and make our feet steadfast and give us victory over the infidels.' (Surah 2:250)And His words: 'And the only thing they said Lord, forgive our sins and excesses and make our feet steadfast and give us victory over the infidels.' (Surah 3:147) And His prophet said: 'Oh Lord, You have revealed the book, You move the clouds, You gave us victory over the enemy, conquer them and give us victory over them.' (Source not found.) Give us victory and make the ground shake under their feet. Pray for yourself and all your brothers that they may be victorious and hit their targets and ask God to grant you martyrdom facing the enemy, not running away from it, and for Him to grant you patience and the feeling that anything that happens to you is for Him.

Then every one of you should prepare to carry out his role in a way that would satisfy God. You should clench your teeth, as the pious early generations did.

When the confrontation begins, strike like champions who do not want to go back to this world. Shout, 'Allahu Akbar,' because this strikes fear in the hearts of the non-believers. God said: 'Strike above the neck, and strike at all of their extremities.' (Surah 8:12) Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, 'Come hither, friend of God.' (Source not found.) They have dressed in their most beautiful clothing.

If God decrees that any of you are to slaughter, dedicate the slaughter to your fathers and [unclear], because you have obligations toward them. Do not disagree, and obey. If you slaughter, do not cause the discomfort of those you are killing, because this is one of the practices of the prophet, peace be upon him. On one condition: that you do not become distracted by [unclear] and neglect what is greater, paying attention to the enemy. That would be treason, and would do more damage than good. If this happens, the deed at hand is more important than doing that, because the deed is an obligation, and [the other thing] is optional. And an obligation has priority over an option.

Do not seek revenge for yourself. Strike for God's sake. One time Ali bin Abi Talib [a companion and close relative of the prophet Muhammad], fought with a non-believer. The non-believer spit on Ali, may God bless him. Ali [unclear] his sword, but did not strike him. When the battle was over, the companions of the prophet asked him why he had not smitten the non-believer. He said, 'After he spat at me, I was afraid I would be striking at him in revenge for myself, so I lifted my sword.' After he renewed his intentions, he went back and killed the man. This means that before you do anything, make sure your soul is prepared to do everything for God only.(This story found in the biography of Imam Ali bin Abu Talib.)

Then implement the way of the prophet in taking prisoners. Take prisoners and kill them. As Almighty God said: 'No prophet should have prisoners until he has soaked the land with blood. You want the bounties of this world [in exchange for prisoners] and God wants the other world [for you], and God is all-powerful, all-wise.' (Surah 8:67)

If everything goes well, every one of you should pat the other on the shoulder in confidence that (M) and (T) number (K). Remind your brothers that this act is for Almighty God. Do not confuse your brothers or distract them. He should give them glad tidings and make them calm, and remind them [of God] and encourage them. How beautiful it is for one to read God's words, such as: 'And those who prefer the afterlife over this world should fight for the sake of God.' (Surah 9:38?) And His words: 'Do not suppose that those who are killed for the sake of God are dead; they are alive... ' (Surah 3:169)And others. Or they should sing songs to boost their morale, as the pious first generations did in the throes of battle, to bring calm, tranquility and joy to the hearts of his brothers.

Do not forget to take a bounty, even if it is a glass of water to quench your thirst or that of your brothers, if possible. When the hour of reality approaches, the zero hour, [unclear] and wholeheartedly welcome death for the sake of God. Always be remembering God. Either end your life while praying, seconds before the target, or make your last words: 'There is no God but God, Muhammad is His messenger'. (Surah 37:35 and Surah 48:29)

Afterwards, we will all meet in the highest heaven, God willing.

If you see the enemy as strong, remember the groups [that had formed a coalition to fight the prophet Muhammad]. They were 10,000. Remember how God gave victory to his faithful servants. He said: 'When the faithful saw the groups, they said, this is what God and the prophet promised, they said the truth. It only increased their faith.' (Surah 3:173)

And may the peace of God be upon the prophet.

• The document was released by the F.B.I. and translated for The New York Times by Capital Communications Group, a Washington-based international consulting firm and by Imad Musa, a translator for the firm.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brainpulse: 5:02pm On Aug 08, 2012
What i said was that we dont have a problem with you saying Jesus is not God but let always try to tolerate each other and not result in killing one another if there are issues of dissagrements. And you deleted the post. This is a display of highest hypocrite.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brainpulse: 5:03pm On Aug 08, 2012
brainpulse: I dont believe my post can be hidden even when it has no word of hate and harm. Whao

What i said was that we dont have a problem with you saying Jesus is not God but let always try to tolerate each other and not result in killing one another if there are issues of dissagrements. And you deleted the post. This is a display of highest hypocrite.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by makizee(m): 5:05pm On Aug 08, 2012
asemota2012: What efforts have you guys made to stop your members from destroying innocent souls and compelling other religions to convert to islam?
What makes the "our members" that some misguided people refer to themselves as muslims does not make them so, sorry put yourself in mu shoes, how would u advice BH( cuz these are the guys am sure u were referring to) because even Imams in the North that have openly condemned their activities get Killed..even if these guys really read their Quran..one of the greatest sin is to kill another soul...I believe i speak for the generality of Muslims by saying BOKO HARAM MEMBERS ARE NOT MUSLIMS...Shikena
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by abbey621(m): 5:21pm On Aug 08, 2012
emmasege:

Well, i'd like to tell u that ur concern about someone coming from the dead to tell us the right way, was addressed by Jesus while on earth when he told the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. the rich man was in hell after leaving this world and begged that someone be sent to earth to warn his loved ones not to join him in hell. U know what Jesus said- THEY HAVE PROPHETS AMONG THEM. IF THEY WOULD NOT LISTEN TO THE PROPHETS, NEITHER WOULD THEY LISTEN EVEN IF ANYONE ROSE FROM THE DEAD. Furthermore, I recently listened to a man of God (Pastor Abraham) who died and came back to the earth. His testimony is a proof to the eternal truth that JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE (NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THRU HIM). This is not to say that identifying with christianity as a religion is the gateway to heaven, but christianity as a way of life is. We will be well surprised to know also that some people who were not known here as christians may be found in heaven (just like the thief on the cross with Jesus who made a last minute decision for Christ) while the highly celebrated xtians here on earth would be missen.


If you are confused, stay confused but don't try to confuse others with your jargon. Your religion is based on words from a group of writers passed down and modified from generation to generation. The original Hebrew bible is so different from the modern English translated bible, unfortunately so has the true meaning of Christianity. Islam may be guilty of being overly aggressive and not being clear enough to people of other religion but Christianity is just as guilty of manipulation and propaganda. Imagine you claiming you listened to pastor Abraham and that shows proof that Christianity is the true religion, I find it hard not to laugh at your gullibility. Here is a fact that no Christian or Muslim can dispute, God works in mysterious ways, and no one is guaranteed heaven or hell, he alone decides that, so spare me the story and stop being slave to religious bigotry.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Yahoo1(m): 5:59pm On Aug 08, 2012
@Op very nice thread,for islams,but must xtian be mentioned b4 u get ur point down?...or u just want 2 start anoda war of words?.....anyway if all muslims are like you,the world wuld be a much better place.
Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Nobody: 6:07pm On Aug 08, 2012
author=LagosShia Holy Quran 22:39-40
Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ...".
[q]in borno and yobe, were they (boko haram) ejected from their house that is why they have refused to stop killing, instead have ejected others. I tot they have closed any avenue for dialogue and went ahead to say all non muslim must "musilinta" else death![/q] HOLY QURAN 5:32:[/b]
whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.[q]they are killing humanity and not saving, therefore before allah they are guilty[/q]

HOLY QURAN 2:190:
Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.[q]to this, was it not yaradua that started killing them first and not christians, but today christians are killed becos of the sin of late yaradua, hmm again, they are condemned by allah[/q]

HOLY QURAN 7:55:
(O mankind!) Call upon your Lord humbly and in secret. Lo! He loveth not aggressors. [q]boko haram are the aggressors, hence allah is against them[/q]

HOLY QURAN 8:61:
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the One that Heareth and Knoweth (all things)."
[q]again they have refused peace, therefore they will end miserably cos allah is against them[/q]
HOLY QURAN 5:2:
" , and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part). Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment."
[q]we are supposed to help each other against corruption and sin in the land, but they have killed christians therefore allah purnishment rest on them amin[/q]
HOLY QURAN 41:34:
"Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!"[q]boko doesnt want to have christians as friends, thus they fail[/q]

HOLY QURAN 4:135:
"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do."
[q]its justice they are not fighting for but forcing which has an element of injustice[/q]
HOLY QURAN 16:90
"God advocates justice, charity, and regarding the relatives. And He forbids evil, vice, and transgression. He enlightens you, that you may take heed."

HOLY QURAN 16:126:
"And if ye do punish them, punish them no worse than they punished you: but if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient."

HOLY QURAN 21:107:
"And we have not sent you but as a mercy for the world"

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