DeckXavier:
So how are men to be held responsible before and after the pregnancy? I want to know if you've got something to say that sassysure hasn't said.

DeckXavier:
what about men who'll provide for the kid but have nothing to do with the child emotionally?

DeckXavier:
and girls still commit abortion? Lol.

Ariza:
Has it been proven that these ladies abort pregnancy for the fear of what the society will say?

DeckXavier:
lol, okay oo.

pocohantas:
I don’t understand how everyone is saying same thing and somehow not agreeing.

Ariza:
Na ask I ask ooooo. In a country where baby Mama's and prostitutes are very common, I just want to know ni.

People still dey shame?

Hathor5:


Some people are trying to save face.

DeckXavier:
times have changed, but the society hasn't changed much. Let everyone take preventive measures to curb this problem, the consequences are daring especially for women.

Ariza:
This is the point we have been trying to make. It takes everyone's effort to stop this menace not some gender closing legs, knowing their system or keeping tabs on their monthly flows. . Any sane guy that doesn't want to be "pushed" into fatherhood will take precautions too.

It's not that difficult. Haha

pocohantas:


Lol. I am confused o, we all seem to be saying the same thing na. Maybe the OP needs to redefine the thread for us.

Ariza:
This is the point we have been trying to make. It takes everyone's effort to stop this menace not some gender closing legs, knowing their system or keeping tabs on their monthly flows. . Any sane guy that doesn't want to be "pushed" into fatherhood will take precautions too.

It's not that difficult. Haha

Hathor5:


Have we agreed that everyone is responsible for their sexuality now?

I am happy with myself then.

DeckXavier:
I don't think people who had a view contrary to yours meant any harm, they only felt the female gender should take more precautions because they get to bear the brunt, not the man. I subscribe to their views, deny a man sex when he tries to do the stuff without condoms, simple as ABC. Women are gatekeepers of offspring, na she get final say, not the man.

pocohantas:


I never knew this was in contest, hence my surprise.

Hathor5:


Have we agreed that everyone is responsible for their sexuality now?

I am happy with myself then.

JONNYSPUTE:
.....Why are most of you ladies like this?

Sis nobody is competing or saying that the guys should not be blamed but what we are talking about or saying is who bears the consequence more.

Like I asked earlier, which is easier for a lady?

1.. Taking precautions and being careful in order to avoid the irresponsible guys and actualise her full potentials or

2... Trying to compete or being at par with an irresponsible guy just to prove a point and end up wasting her life?

The topic is just an advice and some of you ladies turned it o a gender war.

JONNYSPUTE:
..Nne,you are making this look as if are fighting.

Yes,we all should try our best to teach our children both males and females how to be responsible in life.

The truth of the matter is thst after doing this,some will still go astray.

Let's be honest here,the girl child is still at a disadvantage in our society and ranting here will not solve the problems.

Let's all join together and raise more responsible children.

Finish

Ariza:
Sir your number 2 does not even make sense to me, how is it an option?.

Anyways, you are a guy. I'd be a fool debating this topic with one.

JONNYSPUTE:
.....Why are most of you ladies like this?

Sis nobody is competing or saying that the guys should not be blamed but what we are talking about or saying is who bears the consequence more? .

pocohantas:
I don’t understand how everyone is saying same thing and somehow not agreeing.

BUKATYNE

instead of them to insist the men buckle up and be sexually responsible and/chaste (which means the women also don't get to sleep about aka exercise their sexual liberation), it is to complain how the world is unfair and labeling women with a colourful sexual past

Ariza:
If this is the case then why is no one really investigating on the cause and get to the Root of this. You know I so find Most Nigerians very shallow and hypocritical. If married woman engage in abortion more then how such women can condemn same act in others beats my imagination. Selective morality at work again isn't it?. Are they not endangering their lives too? Aren't they commiting murder too? Aren't they supposed to take responsibility of their sexual lives, calculate their flows, "get educated about their system" to avoid pregnancy like I'm read some ladies instruct on this thread. Lol But then Na single ladies enter trouble for 9ja.

That's not even where I'm going, My issue is why aren't women seeing the need to involve men in birth control. Why do they exclude men or Male child from sex education and taking responsibility? Why are Men not taught how to keep their bodies too?
Now this isn't feminism or equality reasoning it's just how any sane individual will reason. So far with all the morals and fear we all try to instill in the female child look at where it got us. When a society makes a specific gender the moral keeper and allow the other to live freely, then it is only a matter of time before morality is destroyed. It is either the free one corrupt the morally trained one or the latter lose strength or willingness to keep up. We create a fence and also create erosion in the same society and we expect flood free environment. We be jokers ! Bunch of jokers! .

Men should be held responsible for pregnancy just as women. It takes two to tangle, ovary and sperm to for embryo. You can't blame just one gender because she's the carrier. Then sex education and abstainance should be inculcated in both genders.

cococandy:


Like this right?



please isn’t this part of what others have been insisting on and you have been arguing against? Because women are affected most therefore the responsibility should be theirs?
Insisting on men buckling up and being sexually responsible is part of the prevention folks were talking about.

pocohantas:


E weak me. Eye and brain come dey turn me sef.

cococandy:


Like this right?



please isn’t this part of what others have been insisting on and you have been arguing against? Because women are affected most therefore the responsibility should be theirs?
Insisting on men buckling up and being sexually responsible is part of the prevention folks were talking about.

bukatyne:


Please DO NOT twist my posts or lift them out of context to prove a point next time.

You are for sexual liberation which is fine. I have stated my position severally on this thread;

1. Men and women should be sexually chaste. This negates sexual liberation for both parties AND the view point that 'sex is just a physiological' need.

2. Women should take EXTRA precautions because they bear the brunt of sexual encounters gone awry pregnant wise. Some people suggested women study their bodies, others said no condom, no sex etc.

Westernlove:


I applaud you for this master piece even though we do have our differences at times.....

cococandy:


Obviously wasn’t a thread created to help or educate any woman.

pmoye:
Make no mistake, this is 100% about women, in case some start feeling the need to balance the gender here. .