dalass:


Useless government mtcheeeeweww!

tell me about it.

BMC crews are the worst

Openbusiness:
your federal government are the biggest scammers in this country

Federal government doesn't use God's name to scam.....I can see that the only people opposing this bill are the one man Church (business centers) they want to continue in their scamming business but FG big pass them.

Nigerians are lunatics, government that couldn't manage there huge resources now wants to be controlling religious finance

Fighting the church indeed!

The black man and his hatred for anything which resembles accountability. If I'm not into fraud, why exactly should I be bothered about transparency?

If govt asks religious organisations to declare financial status, I'm totally lost at how that amounts to "fighting the church".... I'd be glad if someone knowledgeable can explain to me why exactly I should be worried about this as a Christian.

Or is 'hiding of financial status' one of the cardinal mandates given by Christ to the church?

Why is it that we the Christians are the one complaining?
You want government to provide you with security, light,water, road, you register your church with the government but you don't want the same govt to regulate your organization. Why? If those criminals pastors like oyedepo have nothing to hide why are they against CAMA?

TimeTraveler369:
I am sure Church goers and tithers will like to know how their offerings are being expended.

Am I right or am I right ?

You are very wrong. You don't understand church settings.

Tithes and offering are not even expected from Unbeliever church goers and they eventually payed, they should go and check what tithes and offerings are and how they are managed.

My church account is audited every year and presented to us member. Why must it be revealed to an unbeliever who is not even a member of the congregation?

Every secret agenda of anyone against the church cannot stand.

It would have been a good idea if it wasn't going to be weaponised against Christians. Just watch how they sack the board of trustees for any church that wants to build a university or new 2k+ auditorium

Thereishel:


It's Satanic and islamic agenda. In most countries western countries included apart from islamic nations there are always separation of church from state. What is business of terrorist administration/government with churches. We never see this before in Nigeria. God would deliver us from this anti-Christ government IJN

Not true

Nigerian churches have been investigated and sanctioned in the UK many many times for financial impropriety
KICC
Christ Embassy and Redeemed to name a few

Those investigations proceeded without sentiment

i wish this government can just ban religion

TonyeBarcanista:
Those against CAMA Amendment are either ill-informed or mischievous.

In sane societies like USA, South Africa, UK, Europe, Australia etc, there are agencies that regulate religious organisations, CSOs and NGOs. Why should Nigeria's be different?

Some people said it is a fight against the church, and I ask, which Church?

If the Bible is right, the Church is the congregation of believers. It is not a building or religious organisation. And believers don't need any formal nomenclature or organisation to worship. The Bible says where two or three are gathered, CHRIST is present. The Bible never said people should establish organisations, neither did the early Christians establish organisations.

Now let's look this....

A man wakes up on a faithful morning, he approaches CAC (Government) to register his organisation, which he names XYZ Church

He lists himself, his wife, Kids or associates as Trustees

He gets certificate from the government to operate...

Yet, he argues with the government that they have no right to regulate the activities of the same organisation that he went to government to register.

He shouts persecution, war against the church and God.

Meanwhile, he is the final authority and CEO in the religious organisation, and won't hesitate to show the exit door to anyone that questions his authority.

The irony is that he abides to similar laws abroad...


As much as I'm not a fan of this administration, I support this CAMA... Although Nigeria politicians are useless

FACT:

FG or any other government cannot regulate the "Church" (congregation of believers). Even the Roman government couldn't regulate the Church.

However, government can only regulate religious organisations (formal organizations) that are registered with the government in line with the constitutional mandate.

The rule is simple, don't register your organisation with government if you don't want to be regulated... Same way you don't register your business and NGO with government if you don't want their regulation...

very correct.

spiralwedge:


With all the taxes you've paid, what did you gain? I'm sure you are paddling on a canoe to work whenever it rains in your area and sleep in blackout.

Your civil financial obligations are being mismanaged before your eyes, you did nothing, but to go out in the sun to vote in another thief.

But a voluntary fundraising organisation is where your bones are strong and your mouth sharp. Have you asked them to go enact same law on Ikoyi Club or IBB golf club or your old students association?

You better go check up your brain. It's drifting left.

you are saying trash .why Initial registration under the agency you are not ready to disclose your financial activities for? Is this law not be in active on the religious and other NGOs in those western countries where religious was imported to African countries ? You blame government for lack of good development bcs you pay tax but celebrating those that collecting your hard earn resources without providing a single road for you but virtual promise.

Goke7:


Most nigerian churches do not want to be accountable even to their members parting away with their hard earned resources. Everything is covered using the name of God.

The govt just want these churches to be more accountable

Why?

TonyeBarcanista:
Those against CAMA Amendment are either ill-informed or mischievous.

In sane societies like USA, South Africa, UK, Europe, Australia etc, there are agencies that regulate religious organisations, CSOs and NGOs. Why should Nigeria's be different?

Some people said it is a fight against the church, and I ask, which Church?

Is Nigeria a sane society?

If the Bible is right, the Church is the congregation of believers. It is not a building or religious organisation. And believers don't need any formal nomenclature or organisation to worship. The Bible says where two or three are gathered, CHRIST is present. The Bible never said people should establish organisations, neither did the early Christians establish organisations.

Now let's look this....

A man wakes up on a faithful morning, he approaches CAC (Government) to register his organisation, which he names XYZ Church

He lists himself, his wife, Kids or associates as Trustees

He gets certificate from the government to operate...

Yet, he argues with the government that they have no right to regulate the activities of the same organisation that he went to government to register.

He shouts persecution, war against the church and God.

Meanwhile, he is the final authority and CEO in the religious organisation, and won't hesitate to show the exit door to anyone that questions his authority.

The irony is that he abides to similar laws abroad...


As much as I'm not a fan of this administration, I support this CAMA... Although Nigeria politicians are useless

FACT:

FG or any other government cannot regulate the "Church" (congregation of believers). Even the Roman government couldn't regulate the Church.

However, government can only regulate religious organisations (formal organizations) that are registered with the government in line with the constitutional mandate.

The rule is simple, don't register your organisation with government if you don't want to be regulated... Same way you don't register your business and NGO with government if you don't want their regulation...

Is Nigeria a sane society?

post=93102418:
I really do not understand this government o.. are you saying God should give you his financial records.. I know some dumb dumb would come and attack me now ..
Anyway come and buy kids Educational Tablets for your your children to help them stay ahead of their peers view my profile now

Buy educational tablet from one who believes God needs his money. Are you sure you are educated?

Igbochief001:

it's the job of the federal government to protect it's citizens from scammers

And who is protecting you from fg scam?

athaboi:
FG should first manage their finance before looking for who to help

Mumu, pay tax you will be paying tithes.

obailala:
Fighting the church indeed!

If govt asks religious organisations to declare financial status, I'm totally lost at how that amounts to "fighting the church".... Why exactly should I be worried about this as a Christian? Or maybe I dont really understand what the term 'church' really means.

The black man' and his epic hatred for anything which resembles accountability. If I'm not into fraud, why exactly should I be bothered about transparency?

It's because they don't want FG or people to know that they've been scamming them in Church/God's.....
FG want to open their yash so they want to fight it by all means

Afolabimills:
This evil govt have just dug it's own grave

please tell us how?
govt is a god,u must obey.
there nothing wrong in the new policy.
quote me if u are against it.

Criminal G.Os, your end of impunity just got cast

chriskosherbal:
The church will always WIN.

why are u concentrating on churches? did govt say the policy are for churches alone?

asamaigho:


this is a clear attach on the church under d guise of regulations.
a govt dat cant manage the country affair, all of sudden wants to manage d church.

No the law is simple why Registered under an Agency you don't want to disclose you financial activities to? If you don't want to be accountable by any agency Don't Register.

wisest10:
Why will you ask religious bodies to submit their finances..it uncalled for..
CAN should take a law suit against this nonsense called bill.
I wonder what the Senate were thinking when passing this bill..
Nobody should quote me,if you dont like my comment ask federal government to revoke this law

the law has come to stay, if they are not hiding something why are they against the regulations?
Ask oyedepo if his church in US or UK is not regulated by the government.
When ever they travel abroad they will obey every law but if they come back to Nigeria they will be feeling like they are above the law.

Charmingrascal:
I blame the Senate for passing such outlandish law.

This will only lead to religion tension, watch out.

After all said and done, the tension will settle!

You don't want to buy joor go away

Basher8583:


Buy educational tablet from one who believes God needs his money. Are you sure you are educated?

Does God spend money?

I really do not understand this government o.. are you saying God should give you his financial records.. I know some dumb dumb would come and attack me now ..
Anyway come and buy kids Educational Tablets for your your children to help them stay ahead of their peers view my profile now[/quote]

muykem:
There are some aspects that make sense in the law. I will not like a situation where people will formed NGO include churches and turn it to family business also. However government should understand that spiritual issues is different from physical issues. I therefore suggest that government should not intervene in church affairs except the church is going contrary to its own constitution.

why should govt not be involve?
tell me what is wrong in it?

the gullible ones will oppose this move why the wise one will accept this bill.....top 10 richest pastors in the world 5 Nigerian pastors made top 10...now tell me who re we fooling

So who protects the citizens from the government scammerers?

Igbochief001:

it's the job of the federal government to protect it's citizens from scammers

IamWonderful:
The rubbish bill cannot be passed, Buhari is writing his doom

it has already been passed.

Is it possible to regulate it?

tope777:
Only the dead sign a devilish bill against God.

...do the math.

please explain how is it devilish and against GOD

post=93102418:
I really do not understand this government o.. are you saying God should give you his financial records.. I know some dumb dumb would come and attack me now ..
Anyway come and buy kids Educational Tablets for your your children to help them stay ahead of their peers view my profile now

brainwashed.