NikAustine:
I don't wish. my ex Gf is Delta but she agrees she is Igbo and calls herself Delta Igbo. so does is ha family.
Have seen others who claim Igbos and are from Delta. what then do you say to that?
No, you can't use the Swiss and Austrian Theory here because it no same.
in your deluded mind, you can't be from Delta and still be igbo. is that not ignorance?
See Bros leave that thing. I don't know about the Ikwerres alot but you see delta Igbos ba, I know them wella. I have alot of them as friends. it only here I come and it surprises me when you say you're not Igbos. How come?
Why is your brothers Igbos but you're not? Think bro think.

Na wa o... Na by force. She just wanted to please you o. Go and tell the onichaugbo people and the agbor people and okpanam people that they are ibos and get the insulin of your life.


Look. I gave you an example with the Austrians. Now you say they aren't the same. How? Why not tell the people of Dahomey (present day Benin Republic) that they are Yorubas?


There's no thinking about anything. Read and reason. We both have a different tradition of origin and aren't Igbos. Please we aren't Igbos.

wildikeman:



Na wa o... Na by force. She just wanted to please you o. Go and tell the onichaugbo people and the agbor people and okpanam people that they are ibos and get the insulin of your life.


Look. I gave you an example with the Austrians. Now you say they aren't the same. How? Why not tell the people of Dahomey (present day Benin Republic) that they are Yorubas?


There's no thinking about anything. Read and reason. We both have a different tradition of origin and aren't Igbos. Please we aren't Igbos.

Different Traditions how? when your Cultures and every thing, your market days, kingship etc are same?
Why will she want to please me I'm I Igbo? I'm from Akwa ibom for your information.
Yes, your origin.. some trace your origin to Benin and even few who are Anambarians trace theirs to Benin to doesn't mean they're not Igbos.
You talk about the Agbo and the Okpanam people and you forget about others fa. you forget about the Obigbos, That anioma of delta etc that always agree and accept they're Igbos.
Why your Austrian and Swiss analogy wasn't accepted was because it has no basis.
Austrian don't have identity crisis like you lot. on one side you're saying you're not Igbo while others also from your state, Communities, n local govts are confessing to be igbo.
It like this, 70% of your people confess they're Igbos even your celebrities, your influential people confess to be Igbos but a few of you, the rest 30% says you're not Igbos...howare they the same?

We can see how united you are by mining your brothers skull. Skull mining is a sign of love and unity in ur place

NikAustine:
Different Traditions how? when your Cultures and every thing, your market days, kingship etc are same?
Why will she want to please me I'm I Igbo? I'm from Akwa ibom for your information.
Yes, your origin.. some trace your origin to Benin and even few who are Anambarians trace theirs to Benin to doesn't mean they're not Igbos.
You talk about the Agbo and the Okpanam people and you forget about others fa. you forget about the Obigbos, That anioma of delta etc that always agree and accept they're Igbos.
Why your Austrian and Swiss analogy wasn't accepted was because it has no basis.
Austrian don't have identity crisis like you lot. on one side you're saying you're not Igbo while others also from your state, Communities, n local govts are confessing to be igbo.
It like this, 70% of your people confess they're Igbos even your celebrities, your influential people confess to be Igbos but a few of you, the rest 30% says you're not Igbos...howare they the same?

Do you see where the problem is.. The international Scene that believes the Austrian theory is being debunked by you. You see.. Everyone is saying one thing you say they are wrong.

Even if we share a certain culture, it still doesn't count. The tradition of origin of origin of a certain people has been set. People who call themselves Igbos in anioma are too lazy to do reaseraches. It will be detrimental to them when the day comes and they chose Igbos Instaef of self identity. They will rue that day. They should be careful. And think whose side they are on and where they really came from.

wildikeman:




Do you see where the problem is.. The international Scene that believes the Austrian theory is being debunked by you. You see.. Everyone is saying one thing you say they are wrong.

Even if we share a certain culture, it still doesn't count. The tradition of origin of origin of a certain people has been set. People who call themselves Igbos in anioma are too lazy to do reaseraches. It will be detrimental to them when the day comes and they chose Igbos Instaef of self identity. They will rue that day. They should be careful. And think whose side they are on and where they really came from.

Well then I guess Okonjo iweala etc are quite lazy to do researches and you're not lazy.
see no one people come from a particular origin. even the Jews with no their ancestor Abraham wasn't Jewish or what have you
So I do agree with you that they're certain Igbo groups that have ties with Benin or others part of Nigeria but I will say they're mix up with those also that have ties with the east
it just like 3 people coming together, one coming from benin, the other from the Eastern Igbo land and the other from far way and then settle in a land where they are many other Igbo speaking groups, mixup, intermarried together and Den form one ethnic group, anioma
it doesn't mean those people doesn't have connections with the Benins but also they still do have connections with the Igbo of the East.
so you see, how then do you differentiate them?
I want to ask you, won't you rather be in a country where you speak one language, understand one language then a country where even if BIAFRA leaves we will always see you guys as Igbos since you speak, dress and have their cultures and traditions and also name your children Igbo names. no body then will believe you not Igbo.
and me an Akwa Ibomite, I won't consider you part of the Niger delta because to me you're igbo and there is no how I will let you be President in a Niger delta Republic. you can't have your own country and still rule mine, mba

NikAustine:
Well then I guess Okonjo iweala etc are quite lazy to do researches and you're not lazy.
see no one people come from a particular origin. even the Jews with no their ancestor Abraham wasn't Jewish or what have you
So I do agree with you that they're certain Igbo groups that have ties with Benin or others part of Nigeria but I will say they're mix up with those also that have ties with the east
it just like 3 people coming together, one coming from benin, the other from the Eastern Igbo land and the other from far way and then settle in a land where they are many other Igbo speaking groups, mixup, intermarried together and Den form one ethnic group, anioma
it doesn't mean those people doesn't have connections with the Benins but also they still do have connections with the Igbo of the East.
so you see, how then do you differentiate them?
I want to ask you, won't you rather be in a country where you speak one language, understand one language then a country where even if BIAFRA leaves we will always see you guys as Igbos since you speak, dress and have their cultures and traditions and also name your children Igbo names. no body then will believe you not Igbo.
and me an Akwa Ibomite, I won't consider you part of the Niger delta because to me you're igbo and there is no how I will let you be President in a Niger delta Republic. you can't have your own country and still rule mine, mba

Okonjo Iweala might say she is an Igbo.. All good for her. But you see the Igbos from the east. They treat Deltans worse than any other tribe in Nigeria. Imagine the discrimination the people of ebony face in the East.

Moreover they have resulted to calling us fake Igbos as if we told them that we are Igbos.

If we split, we would rather be called a country than Marge with the Igbos. They are too discriminatory and should not be our leaders.

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Acidiously:

Oga go and sit down. South south is BIAFRA land not alaIgbo. Why are you guys so wicked and hatred oriented? Do you know how it feels when you'd go to Agbor and see someone speaking fluent Igbo that you can comprehend, has a full Igbo name, but at that same instance deny being Igbo because of what he's been reading on the news about Igbo.
At the very beginning it felt really bad but when we realized they wouldn't renege on what they believed, we accepted it.
If we told you before now that; Don jazzy, Tonto Dike, Linda Ikeji, emefiele, Jim ovia, Peter Odili, Duncan mighty were Igbos, you'd nearly curse us to death. Instead of you to tell us what tribe they are, you'd rather prefer to tell us their states of origin. You guys are so wicked!!!!

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The Igbo false dimension


I know I am treading on a dangerous path that may precipitate my crucifixion by my own kinsmen. As the saying goes, conscience is an open wound and only truth can heal it. I am Igbo, but I will not shield my people of any malfeasance. The Igbo race just needs to come to grips with the painful reality of issues concerning it. The locus of this piece is not to join the racial debate which seems to have reached a parabolic diminuendo between the Igbo and the Yoruba, but to throw up some issues of which gravitas cannot be wished away.

It is an indubitable fact, that an unenviable percentage of crimes committed in Nigeria are committed by people of the Igbo mould. I know, this is disappointing coming from an Igbo person. But it is the truth. Our crime records show that some unscrupulous Igbo constitute the majority in the denizens of criminals in Nigeria. It is saddening, but this is a reality we the Igbo have to accept and deal with. Consequently, the Igbo I hate are those Igbo people who know the truth regarding Igbo criminality in Nigeria, but suppress it in the name of Igbo nationalism. Instead of adding their voices to the war against crime, and devising intelligent schemas to curb the menace of armed robbery and kidnapping in the South East and Nigeria in general, they go on a campaign of diatribes and vicious aspersions smearing the purveyor of truth and his message. It is just unfortunate that we the Igbo have chosen to ignore the dastardly acts and crimes committed by our Igbo brothers and sisters in Nigeria.

Concomitantly, it is an incontrovertible fact that ninety per cent of the purveyors of fake drugs in Nigeria are Igbo. This is a truth that we the Igbo try to brush aside as false or as another cryptic criminal profiling of the Igbo by other nationalities in Nigeria. It is sickening that the Igbo despise any of their own who goes all out to stop the criminality of their money “mongering” ilk. The same fate applies to any Igbo person who dares to take a different and unpopular stand in a matter at the provenance of Igbo existence. Professor Dora Akunyili comes to mind. When she embarked on that glorious war to rid Nigeria of fake drugs she knew the culprits were her own people. This informed her descending on the purveyors of death at Bridge Head Onitsha which was a constellation portal for big time fake drug merchants. What did she get for it? She lost the senatorial election! Not that her crackdown on Igbo death merchants was the sole reason she lost the election, but it was a seminal factor in determining her electoral fate. Suffice it to say that when she was battling with fake drug merchants, some Igbo people opined that she was nursing a vendetta while some posited she was pursuing a Yoruba agenda to cripple Igbo businesses. Again, some Igbo people quipped that after doing all her “gra-gra” she would come home and meet them. That they would be waiting for her. As stated earlier, this partly underscores the deal she got at the senatorial election. And also the assassination attempt on her. She did not get the accolades of her own people! In that vein, the Igbo I hate are those Igbo people, who for the sake of filthy lucre turn a blind eye to criminal Igbo businesses; who believe that any business is kosher as long as you can get enough money from it to build an “Akpu-la-Akpu” (an imposing edifice that shows your status as wealthy) in your village.

There is no doubt that inordinate hankering for wealth by the Igbo is at the heart of Igbo criminality. The baby factories are all an invention of some bad elements in the Igbo fold. Also many Nigerians languishing in jails abroad, most especially in Malaysia, China, Thailand and a host of other foreign countries are majorly of the Igbo extraction. The documentary “Nigerians Jailed in China” by Channels TV adds verisimilitude to this claim. This is grievous and opprobrious enough for the Igbo to ratiocinate and cogitate on how to stem the drift of Igbo youths into crime instead of cutting down anyone who speaks unkindly of the Igbo in this vista. The mad craving for making money at all cost which seems now to be endorsed by the Igbo culture should be pooh-poohed. More credence and goodwill should be given to those who work hard for their money, and to those who do not have much, but have sterling academic credentials and knowledge on which the race can build and grow.

Finally, the Igbo I hate are those Igbo people who cry for Biafra at the drop of a hat when there is a matter of national consequence. They are the huge miscellany of Igbo people whose investments are in other parts of Nigeria. Ninety per cent of them (the investments)! And who when you ask them to move their businesses to their homeland, they tell you that it (the South East) is not viable or good for business. Yet at every given time they cry for Biafra. What hypocrisy!

We the Igbo need to come down to earth with our problems of which criminality is the most daunting. As said earlier, we must transmogrify the culture of money “mongering” and condemn criminality in all forms for we seem to be topping the list of criminals in Nigeria. After all said and done, I remain a bonafide Igbo man for truth.

Fredrick Nwabufo is a writer and a poet. Email: fredricknwabufo@yahoo.com 08167992075

Nigercity:
The truth is
The Delta ibos except some few communites in Ika
And the numerous Igbos like etche, omuma,oyibo e.t c (excluding ikwerre) have never denied there igboness even here on Nairaland
The people who always shout there are no Igbos in South/south are the ikwerres and the ijaws (with the other minorities tribe in SS) especially the ijaws who feels so much insecured about Igbos in ss (maybe becose of the Niger Delta republic dream which the wants to create with the same Igbos in SS)
And the are just the loudest, check anyone who says the are no Igbos in SS it must definitely be an ijaw man or something an ikwerre man,
Go to there Facebook group, infact everywhere the Only thing the discuss is anti Igbo,

The Igbos Rivers aside ikwerre and the ones in Delta aside Ika are very pro Igbo even here on Nairaland
Check out cjrane and co, even the other woman from Delta
So Igbos from SE should stop generalizing Igbo denials to all Igbos in SS
I could remember some years Igbo the current Delta state governor promised to make Igbo language compulsory in all school across Delta North (Delta Igbo).
Infact onistha and Asaba speaks the same language and are the same people, just separate by state creation..

So Igbos in South south are always pro Igbos
The online trolls mostly comes from other minorities tribe in SS who are insecured about there region
The yoruba people who also says there are no Igbos in SS are just ignorant or just doing for trolls