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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by cooltola(m): 3:38am On Jul 15, 2021
The North does not own Nigeria and the South do not own Nigeria. Both have a lot to play in Nigeria. I do not get this North vs the South online war going on. Because when it comes to looting and corruption, the political elites are very united regardless who is from the North or from the south. Individual accomplishments from people from Southern Nigeria do not mean jack when the poverty rate is increasing. The South can have 200 noble price winners and if poverty rates does not go down,, it means nothing.. the North have 50 billionaires, it doesn't mean jack when poverty and insecurity is the order of the day. A region where Boko Haram and insurgency is roaming unchecked should be a cause of concern from any government. Last time I checked terrorism and insurgency in Northern states is a bad as Iraq, Pakistan or Afghanistan. The North need to take care of insecurity or else, the North will become the next Afghanistan. Kudos to the Nigeria army who are fighting and do not get enough support and I pray the western nation get involved against terrorist attack and the fulani herdsmen attack. For the South, kidnapping should be dealt seriously. Security should be a priority subject for next election

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by onuman: 3:51am On Jul 15, 2021
Rossinkipp:


There is an ongoing 3 billion dollar Port Harcourt - Maiduguri line under construction right now as we speak, which connects every city of the south east.

You are the contractor, abi? Rebuilding of old narrow gauge tracks is what you are talking about, not standard gauge tracks.

Narrow gauge rail lines are outmoded.
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by mfm04622: 3:59am On Jul 15, 2021
mrvitalis:

It makes really no Sense from an economic point of view for a broke country with Nigeria

Spending billions for a rail that would contribute less than $100 million a year to our GDP

But investing $4 billion dollars to our transmission line that's controlled by the federal government would push our transmission capability to around 12,000MW and since we already have that installed capacity ...power generation n production would average around 10,000mw this would double our current state

Benefits millions far more than rail

Contribute over $50 billion to our GDP
So who said we are not investing on the transmission line? All is being done!
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by mfm04622: 4:01am On Jul 15, 2021
onuman:


You are the contractor, abi? Rebuilding of old narrow gauge tracks is what you are talking about, not standard gauge tracks.

Narrow gauge rail lines are outmoded.

Yes, they are outmoded. Yet, even US and Uk still have them! Nothing wrong if we repair and use till we have money for a new standard gauge
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by chaloskyx: 4:28am On Jul 15, 2021
Feel the rail way to where exactly Niger? how many people actually need to go there or conduct businesses there?
Asquare84:


Of all the billions that have been pumped into our electricity since 1999 what has been the benefit till date ! Darkness!! At least we can feel the rail way.
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by stepaside2: 4:46am On Jul 15, 2021
cooltola:
The North does not own Nigeria and the South do not own Nigeria. Both have a lot to play in Nigeria. I do not get this North vs the South online war going on. Because when it comes to looting and corruption, the political elites are very united regardless who is from the North or from the south. Individual accomplishments from people from Southern Nigeria do not mean jack when the poverty rate is increasing. The South can have 200 noble price winners and if poverty rates does not go down,, it means nothing.. the North have 50 billionaires, it doesn't mean jack when poverty and insecurity is the order of the day. A region where Boko Haram and insurgency is roaming unchecked should be a cause of concern from any government. Last time I checked terrorism and insurgency in Northern states is a bad as Iraq, Pakistan or Afghanistan. The North need to take care of insecurity or else, the North will become the next Afghanistan. Kudos to the Nigeria army who are fighting and do not get enough support and I pray the western nation get involved against terrorist attack and the fulani herdsmen attack. For the South, kidnapping should be dealt seriously. Security should be a priority subject for next election
Excellent and balanced commentary. If we all have this mindset, we will be 100 times better than we are currently. Let us live and work for one another, eschewing individualistic behaviours - I am better than the next person type of mentality is the cause of our stunted growth as a people

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by BARISTAMandela(m): 4:56am On Jul 15, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
The North is far bigger in land mass & population than the South.
It has the highest number of states & local governments.
The North has some of the most powerful governors, senators, federal appointees, politicians both serving & retired in Nigeria.
The North also has the richest men & biggest captains of industry in Nigeria.
It has the highest number of military Generals both serving & retired.
The North equally has its fair share of reknown & accomplished academics in Nigeria & abroad in foreign universities.
It has reknown religious scholars & fiery clerics as well as its fair share of unrepentant religious fundamentalists, radicals, hoodlums, criminals & terrorists.
Inspite of all these, watch that whatever positions are zoned to them come 2023, they will choose, present & support their candidate seamlessly with less or no friction, rancour, dirty fight in public or the pages of newspapers & without assassinating each other. They understand politics & leadership. It's no coincidence therefore, that they have what they have. Islam is what regulates them and make them peaceful and never care to address the dirty lies, slander and insults from southerners online.
But you see this presidency of Nigeria Southerners are threatening everybody that they must have come 2023;
this 2023 presidency useless Southern governors & politicians are galivanting up & down insisting they must have -- governors & politicians whose only idea of governance is to issue press statements every month on Fulani herdsmen, cattle grazing & 2023 presidency to distract their gullible state citizens from the resources & allocations of their states they have stolen with nothing to show for it;
you will see how these Southern governors & greedy power drunk Southern politicians will kill & destroy each other just to pick & present one presidential candidate.
Watch how they will burn down the South with insecurity on the eve of 2023 as all these militias, unknown gunmen, Amotekun, Ebube Agu, ESN, OPC, Cult gangs, the various states police & vigilantes in the South will get new sponsors in these Southern governors & politicians as well as new sophisticated weapons from them as they jostle to eliminate each other & weaken the political base of their opponents to be able to pick the presidential ticket for themselves.
The sad shame however is that after destroying themselves, The Southern homeland, wasting the resources of Southern states & the lives of Southern misguided youths just to pick a presidential ticket, they will still turn back & blame the North for the destruction their unbridled greed for power for selfish ends brought on the South.
You see this Southern presidential agitations...
Well, enough said already!

You made no valid point. All you did was postulate without premises and valid conclusion. Your evil vision for a segment of your country will consume you before 2023, just watch and see. Evil genus.
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by fredoooooo: 4:58am On Jul 15, 2021
Buhari
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by okoroemeka(m): 5:10am On Jul 15, 2021
Asquare84:


Thank you Mr garba shehu, may God bless our president for us.
it is sychophants like you are contributing to the problems of this country,in that write up did you see a single southeast or South south city mentioned that will be linked with a railline ,is it a planned deliberate oversight?onitsha is the biggest market in Africa,aba is the hub of local manufacturing and fabrication,nnewi is an emerging maufacturing hub with gdp bigger than a whole northern region,portharcourt is the headquarters of oil and gas,onne,sapaele,warri,all are sea ports that are begging for a railline,yet this government in it's most nepotic and tribalistic choose to build a rail line in the desert to no were,

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by Anambra1stSon(m): 5:18am On Jul 15, 2021
sematec:
all the railway will be connected to dry ports in the north.
northern economy will soon boom than the south
all the northen govs are working very hard to achieve this. southern are still sleeping

Not today the start giving projects advantage to the North at the end same result, tell me what Kaduna has benefited since connecting Abuja to KD by rail during Goodluck tenure

Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by KILLTHECOWS(f): 5:24am On Jul 15, 2021
Niger delta money at work.
No economic value of any kind is in Kano and kaduna ...can any good thing come out of barren land and desert?
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by Jlow2: 5:43am On Jul 15, 2021
Nepotic govt, is nigeria only from lagos-kano-katsina-niger?

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by Doyou2019: 6:19am On Jul 15, 2021
mrvitalis:

It makes really no Sense from an economic point of view for a broke country with Nigeria

Spending billions for a rail that would contribute less than $100 million a year to our GDP

But investing $4 billion dollars to our transmission line that's controlled by the federal government would push our transmission capability to around 12,000MW and since we already have that installed capacity ...power generation n production would average around 10,000mw this would double our current state

Benefits millions far more than rail

Contribute over $50 billion to our GDP

South Africa aims to generate 77,834
megawatts to add to her power, and they are not even half our population.

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by Doyou2019: 6:21am On Jul 15, 2021
Mikecold:
It's always Epistles to justify themselves when they waste our patrimony in the north

You have not secured your region yet you think it's trade that is your priority

Is it not the same trains that keep breaking down across the north in transit

Would this not be food for terrorists and bandits when they just have to wait for a breakdown or Target the rail lines


They want development, but they wouldn't fight insecurity first. Talk about putting the cart before the horse.
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by Doyou2019: 6:24am On Jul 15, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
The North is far bigger in land mass & population than the South
It has the highest number of states & local governments.
The North has some of the most powerful governors, senators, federal appointees, politicians both serving & retired in Nigeria.
The North also has the richest men & biggest captains of industry in Nigeria.
It has the highest number of military Generals both serving & retired.
The North equally has its fair share of reknown & accomplished academics in Nigeria & abroad in foreign universities.
It has reknown religious scholars & fiery clerics as well as its fair share of unrepentant religious fundamentalists, radicals, hoodlums, criminals & terrorists.
Inspite of all these, watch that whatever positions are zoned to them come 2023, they will choose, present & support their candidate seamlessly with less or no friction, rancour, dirty fight in public or the pages of newspapers & without assassinating each other. They understand politics & leadership. It's no coincidence therefore, that they have what they have. Islam is what regulates them and make them peaceful and never care to address the dirty lies, slander and insults from southerners online.
But you see this presidency of Nigeria Southerners are threatening everybody that they must have come 2023;
this 2023 presidency useless Southern governors & politicians are galivanting up & down insisting they must have -- governors & politicians whose only idea of governance is to issue press statements every month on Fulani herdsmen, cattle grazing & 2023 presidency to distract their gullible state citizens from the resources & allocations of their states they have stolen with nothing to show for it;
you will see how these Southern governors & greedy power drunk Southern politicians will kill & destroy each other just to pick & present one presidential candidate.
Watch how they will burn down the South with insecurity on the eve of 2023 as all these militias, unknown gunmen, Amotekun, Ebube Agu, ESN, OPC, Cult gangs, the various states police & vigilantes in the South will get new sponsors in these Southern governors & politicians as well as new sophisticated weapons from them as they jostle to eliminate each other & weaken the political base of their opponents to be able to pick the presidential ticket for themselves.
The sad shame however is that after destroying themselves, The Southern homeland, wasting the resources of Southern states & the lives of Southern misguided youths just to pick a presidential ticket, they will still turn back & blame the North for the destruction their unbridled greed for power for selfish ends brought on the South.
You see this Southern presidential agitations...
Well, enough said already!

You could tell this lie again and again; it would never make it true.
Deluded slowpoke.

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by nograv: 6:39am On Jul 15, 2021
Flairoqy:

Making impacts in Europe or Building wealth in Asia or rendering civil services to US does not affect the economy of Nigeria, Reread that.

The point is at least Yoruba and Igbo can be competent and make a difference elsewhere.

Had Northerners not run the Nigerian economy into the ground, those folks would have been here helping to build up our economy..

Instead due to the lifeless one Buhari, we are replacing well educated hardworking professionals like software engineers with herdsmen..
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by Successlane: 6:41am On Jul 15, 2021
Asquare84:


Of all the billions that have been pumped into our electricity since 1999 what has been the benefit till date ! Darkness!! At least we can feel the rail way.

EPIC !!!
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by DTeekay(m): 6:56am On Jul 15, 2021
Asquare84:


Thank you Mr garba shehu, may God bless our president for us.
Borrow money from China to pay a Chinese company for projects, we will still pay China back the loan. Wow...
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by StreetFight: 7:07am On Jul 15, 2021
Railway to bring Fulani herdsmen, Boko Haram and Fulani Bandits en mass to Yoruba land. We are waiting for you. If you come in peace, you will be served food and drink, if you come with war, we will give you sorrow, tears and blood. It will be flesh for flesh, blood for blood.

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by Topmaike007(m): 7:08am On Jul 15, 2021
ignis:
This government na mouth dem dey use do project
so the rail way for south west na mouth, 2nd Niger bridge na mouth?

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by Myde4naija(m): 7:20am On Jul 15, 2021
mrvitalis:

It makes really no Sense from an economic point of view for a broke country with Nigeria

Spending billions for a rail that would contribute less than $100 million a year to our GDP

But investing $4 billion dollars to our transmission line that's controlled by the federal government would push our transmission capability to around 12,000MW and since we already have that installed capacity ...power generation n production would average around 10,000mw this would double our current state

Benefits millions far more than rail

Contribute over $50 billion to our GDP
Nigeria has don't so well in term of power generation and private sector are encouraged to generate their own power supply off grid, this is a milestones achievement and will drive development in the area of industrialization and job creation, but the huge problem we have today is our bad roads which is caused by heavy duties plying those roads, it only make sense to create an alternative mean transportation that is very durable and has the ability to carry out all the heavy duty freight services.

As far as I'm concern and with our present situation we need this rail more.

It will definitly save our roads from incessant damage we often experience over the years.

It is cheaper compare to other means of transport, to move goods and services across our country.

It will enhanced small and medium enterprises and channel them toward growth.

As for me we need it alot

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by mrvitalis(m): 7:47am On Jul 15, 2021
mfm04622:

So who said we are not investing on the transmission line? All is being done!
We are not
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by mrvitalis(m): 7:48am On Jul 15, 2021
Rossinkipp:


[b]You're wrong and your stats are way off mark.

The surest path to national prosperity is to reduce the cost of doing business.

Mass rail transit is the universally acknowledged way to do this.

It provides a far cheaper and more efficient means of transporting goods and people around the country.

The national railway masterplan is a 20 year plan to connect EVERY Nigerian state capital by rail.

It will be Africa's biggest and most comprehensive national rail network.

It will also connect ultimately with other West African and African nations' networks.

The railway expansion programme is an African thing, not just a Nigerian thing. Others are building impressive rail projects too. The ultimate aim is to connect ALL Africa by high-speed rail.

The United States became the world's biggest economy after it was transformed by the building of thousands of kilometres of railroad across the country in the early 20th century. It greatly reduced the cost of doing business there. The rest is history.
Rail way for goods fine but not this Fancy high speed rail ...it's more expensive than airline in Europe even
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by mrvitalis(m): 7:49am On Jul 15, 2021
Ovamboland:


There's ongoing investment into expanding not just the transmission network but also distribution network to deliver 7000mw in the 1st phase by end of 2021, 11000mw by 2023 and 25,000mw by 2025.
The rail link between Apapa port and Kano to Maradi Niger will also be ready by 2025.
Electricity is more than just light in people's homes, it is industry and production which is dependent on cheap efficient logistics. Who says we can't have both ready, or we lack the economic capacity to finance both sectors?
Rail transport will make movement of food from producing region cheaper and faster, reduce farm waste and make cheap food available in urban areas. Also raw materials for processing will be more readily available to industry which needs electricity to run.

You can't get good results by neglecting one for the other.

Niger GDP is less than that of imo state ...the transportation value of that route alone would take 201 years to repay that loan ...if we don't pay staff and maintain the rail and get free fuel

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by mrvitalis(m): 7:51am On Jul 15, 2021
Patrioticman007:


The $ 16 billions of dollars that was invested by the government of PDP when Obj was in power has yielded minus $ 100 million dollars to our GDP. That's why we have - 6000 mw of electricity, wailing wailer. Too much knowledge will not kill you Issac newton of arochukwu village.
That god you guys have graduated from Gej the clueless one started it, to acknowledging the fact GMB took loans to start & complete it.
Obasanjo didn't invest such amount oga stop believing fake news
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by mrvitalis(m): 7:53am On Jul 15, 2021
Timmi:


What doesn’t make sense is when your governor builds airport as edifices spending billions of Naira without any commiserate air traffic. The Kano-Kaduna line will even generate more traffic than the Kaduna-Abuja line which currently is always full of riders thereby providing needed mode of transportation while generating revenue
How much does Abuja kaduna rail generate per month , whats the maintenance cost ?
How long would it take to pay back it's loan

Abuja kaduna rail is not even breaking even not to talk of making profit
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by mrvitalis(m): 7:53am On Jul 15, 2021
lequama10:
my brother, power sector matter is a complicated one, if TCN like and produce 500k mega watts, if the discos don't buy it's a wasted effort, infact with the 6000mega watts, only like 3mw is been purchased by the discos...God help us sha...
Discos are not the problem transmission is the problem ...we can easily replace discos
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by boogietrends: 7:59am On Jul 15, 2021
mrvitalis:

It makes really no Sense from an economic point of view for a broke country with Nigeria

Spending billions for a rail that would contribute less than $100 million a year to our GDP

But investing $4 billion dollars to our transmission line that's controlled by the federal government would push our transmission capability to around 12,000MW and since we already have that installed capacity ...power generation n production would average around 10,000mw this would double our current state

Benefits millions far more than rail

Contribute over $50 billion to our GDP

A $6.5 billion contract for the upgrade of electric power transmission that will push the wheeling capacity to 25,000MW is currently ongoing, in fact some DISCOs are currently distributing free pre paid meters as part of the project... More details in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85O20T1QSj0

You can follow this thread for huge multibillion $$ projects going on in Nigeria. https://www.nairaland.com/6647342/thread-huge-projects-going-nigeria#103635360

Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by klax(m): 7:59am On Jul 15, 2021
mrvitalis:

It makes really no Sense from an economic point of view for a broke country with Nigeria

Spending billions for a rail that would contribute less than $100 million a year to our GDP

But investing $4 billion dollars to our transmission line that's controlled by the federal government would push our transmission capability to around 12,000MW and since we already have that installed capacity ...power generation n production would average around 10,000mw this would double our current state

Benefits millions far more than rail

Contribute over $50 billion to our GDP

No bother yourself bro. Try to understand advising someone with a standstill brain it's like wasting your time. Pls to what important is that train to Nigeria economical problem right now? Pls to what usefulness is that train to security challenges in the county? Now the next you will hear is Buhari has applied for $30billion loan from Afghanistan.

Imagine a country with abundant natural resources and abundant human resources called Nigeria under one lifeless human using 70% of the country total GDP to service debt and a president is sitting relaxing about it. Pls is that not madness
Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by thomasjoe(m): 8:14am On Jul 15, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
The North is far bigger in land mass & population than the South.
It has the highest number of states & local governments.
The North has some of the most powerful governors, senators, federal appointees, politicians both serving & retired in Nigeria.
The North also has the richest men & biggest captains of industry in Nigeria.
It has the highest number of military Generals both serving & retired.
The North equally has its fair share of reknown & accomplished academics in Nigeria & abroad in foreign universities.
It has reknown religious scholars & fiery clerics as well as its fair share of unrepentant religious fundamentalists, radicals, hoodlums, criminals & terrorists.
Inspite of all these, watch that whatever positions are zoned to them come 2023, they will choose, present & support their candidate seamlessly with less or no friction, rancour, dirty fight in public or the pages of newspapers & without assassinating each other. They understand politics & leadership. It's no coincidence therefore, that they have what they have. Islam is what regulates them and make them peaceful and never care to address the dirty lies, slander and insults from southerners online.
But you see this presidency of Nigeria Southerners are threatening everybody that they must have come 2023;
this 2023 presidency useless Southern governors & politicians are galivanting up & down insisting they must have -- governors & politicians whose only idea of governance is to issue press statements every month on Fulani herdsmen, cattle grazing & 2023 presidency to distract their gullible state citizens from the resources & allocations of their states they have stolen with nothing to show for it;
you will see how these Southern governors & greedy power drunk Southern politicians will kill & destroy each other just to pick & present one presidential candidate.
Watch how they will burn down the South with insecurity on the eve of 2023 as all these militias, unknown gunmen, Amotekun, Ebube Agu, ESN, OPC, Cult gangs, the various states police & vigilantes in the South will get new sponsors in these Southern governors & politicians as well as new sophisticated weapons from them as they jostle to eliminate each other & weaken the political base of their opponents to be able to pick the presidential ticket for themselves.
The sad shame however is that after destroying themselves, The Southern homeland, wasting the resources of Southern states & the lives of Southern misguided youths just to pick a presidential ticket, they will still turn back & blame the North for the destruction their unbridled greed for power for selfish ends brought on the South.
You see this Southern presidential agitations...
Well, enough said already!
In landmass the north is bigger but in Population it is not ! Neither is it richer in resources (Human / Capital / or Natural resources )
The south has a more dense population ...wake up and stop innocently falling for the lies about the population ....
Besides my personal opinion, think about this "IS THERE ANY PART OF THE WORLD WHERE THE ARID DESERT REGION IS MORE POPULATED THAN THE COSTAL LUSH RAINFOREST REGION FLOWING WITH MORE ADAPABILITY FOR LIFE ? EVEN INSECTS AND BIRDS ARE MIGRATING DOWN TO THE SOUTH GLOBALLY"


I RECOMMED YOU CARRY OUT YOUR INDEPENDENT RESEARCH ON THE TRRUTH ABOUT THE NIGERIAN POLULATION....

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Re: The Coming Of Kano-Kaduna Modern Railway & Its Social & Economic Significance by Imolastborn99: 8:19am On Jul 15, 2021
Ovamboland:


Yet your people are crying and going mad that Fulani excluded them from rail projects. Same projects their brother Jonathan feels they are too inferior to have. He was rather sharing money to pastors, emergency businessmen and fronts to buy private jets. GEJ even boasted that sign of his economic success story is the number of private jets parked at the airport. Imagine his biggest achievement is excessive empowerment of less than 500 people close to him.
Most of them have since sold the jets off at giveaway prices within 3 years of been cut off from free money.
But see this railway, it will serve a number of generations for the next 100 years. Which one is the smart investment?
Your papa shaa

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