BKayy:

Join or maintain an arm/mole in it?

I know you've heard of Hezbollah right? The military wing is designed as International terrorists while the political arm is designed as an international political organisation and they make deals with other countries.
I believe you now understand what I am saying. Without a state scaled resources, Hezbollah won't have the resources to be the most funded unofficial government paramilitary arm in the whole world with Ammunitions, logistics etc surpassing most countries in the world.

Listen. What obtains in Lebanon, can not be obtained in Biafraland. Different places, different problems. Nigeria's politics is something else compared to Lebanon's politics. Igbo people are different from Shitte Lebanese populace that is of Hizbula. In Igboland, there are lots of saboteurs that are ready to take bribe money from the dungeon's government to work for them to infiltrate any party that IPOB may float and work underground to make sure that such party does not succeed and in the process IPOB will become history.

We saw it happen to APGA where Okoroawusa did the saboteur job by infiltrating APGA, won the election under APGA, and then switched to APC, leaving APGA to be destroyed by other remaining saboteur moles within. IPOB are no fools to thread the same route. Use your brain when dealing with nigeria where there is no rule of law and laws are not respected. Stop comparing nigeria to Lebanon.

AlexBells:


When you don't understand things ask question the United state(s) is called united state(s) and not one state, get the different that's not a one state it is different states that agreed to come together they can as well agree to part, before Nigeria can break we must first be united and pursue it when we understand the plights of everyone otherwise welcome to the big table ignorance is not an excuse to the law

Please leave US out of this your idiotic shenanigan. United in the United States of America indicated independent states which came together to form a union. The unity which existed among individuals in US is rooted in patriotism. New York or California does not want the port of foreign contacts to exist only in the two states. Nigeria has done nothing to promote unity in country. The dumbass Muhammadu Buhari thinks only people who could occupy bureaucratic positions in Nigeria are people of his ethnic stock. Nigeria is already united without the consent of independent ethnic nationalities.

Dear Alexbell and Abohboy..... I have a question for you two, because I have been taking good note of you guys stand on the politics of igboland and Nigeria.

1. You two prefers "United Nigeria" to "one Nigeria"........ Can you guys clearly state the difference between this two, is it not the greatest confusion trying to make out meaning out of shits??. As a one Nigeria....
We are divided. As a United Nigeria..... The division will still be there, so what's clearly the difference. United-divided huh??

2. On the case of going contrary to the secession course.... My question to you two.
Do you not sometimes in your sober state think about the fate of your fellow Igbo brethren in the civil war, in subsequent years, and in recent happening. So according to you guys assumption the blood of these fallen heroes should go in vain...... Just to be a gentlemen of United-divided.......... Gentlemen my ass.

You said IPOB should mobilise the use of domination of politics of the state.
Is the Era of domination not gone??......... Understand that the stage at which IPOB is now, a step they lose, is a gain to Nigeria government. And even if IPOB try to let go every chaos, Nigeria government will not just count it as a win but will also try to eliminate every individual that has served for the IPOB (I. e IPOB DOC.).
Please you guys should clear me in your own view, the right direction and the implications of the steps you guys are trying to adopt.

One Henry one's Said, "is life so dear or so sweet to be bought with the price of chains on the neck??, Forbid it o Lord, I know not the course others may follow, but as for me...... Give me freedom or nothing"

Bkayy, idioki........ I love you guys view.
Thanks a lot

AlexBells:

How can he support the referendum did you ask for it, is it by asking for referendum in the street and sending misrepresentatives apparently the wrong people are asking for referendum and honestly I don't know whose interest they are truly protecting

They are protecting the interests of those that can't show any symbol of their national identity in public like what we saw in the case of Chinwetalu Agu.

By abhoring the symbol of a particular nation in the shambles of fake Country everyday life, how can someone with pro nationalistic attitude of such a nation survive in the politics of such country?
How can he enter in the first place if he sticks to his nationalistic attitude?
For example, If Peter Obi wore Rising sun in any of his campaign or tour in Nigeria would he be a free man today of inside the prison?

Both of us know the answer to the question above. So for a country that brutally suppress all form of national identity of a particular group like Ndigbo, What IPOB is doing is expected.
It is an open secret that IPOB will only succeed by defeating Nigeria openly in battle field like the Eritreans did to Ethiopia for Ndigbo to be free. It can't be negotiated because Nigeria made it so.

BKayy:

First of all, Opobo and Ubani will be settled in the Court if the ijaws have time to waste because it is a lost cause for them.

Second of all, Lugard is the number one problem of what is happening to everybody trapped inside Nigeria because before they created your "West, East, North" nonsense, there were nations and many established and defended their boundaries perfectly. So it is obvious that messing up with such delicate thing gave rise to the existing conflicts we see today. For example, Boko Haram won't have existed if Kanuri was not part of Nigeria because Shehu of Borno perfectly defeated the Uthman Dan Fodio Fulani forces in 19th century.
Herdsmen won't have existed because Tiv successfully expelled the same Fulani.
The Yorubas would have perfectly united themselves or follow the template of the British is the British maintained their lines post paper colonialism. What would have remained is decision on Ilorin Emirate either by arms or by paper.
Ndigbo would have perfectly reformed and embraced their distinct democracy following the abolition of the British imposed monarchy by the same British.
The Bini would have retained their Monarchy.
Ijaw would have enjoyed their peace in which ever way they want. And please this Bonny and Opobo brouhaha started after 1971, prior to that they were proudly Igbo and go with the tag in Pre colonial Nigeria, both politics and otherwise and registered it in the first census, Ijaw land starts and end with most of what Adaka Boro gave in his map for Niger Delta Republic (that is present Bayelsa state).

So you see, Lugard is the problem. If there was no Amalgamation, there won't be need for 7 million people to die in the name of Nigeria.

This is the self denial and self exoneration of typical African, the Yorubas could have United themselves really, let me remind you that the Yoruba kingdoms were fighting a 16 years war between themselves that ended with a British treaty.

You talk about Opobo and Bomny young man Opobo is an independent city state founded by king Jaja of Opobo they agreed to be a British protectorate so don't even think an AlaIgbo Republic or Ijaw Republic would just add Opobo in their maps.

You really believed the Tivs defeated Fulanis you mean if British did not stop them, you think what's going on today is same as the war Fulanis waged before, man this is terrorism and we need to up our games in counter terrorism,

Do you know about the Igala/Benin war, what you don't get is that Nigeria gave us some stability for a while, even the Igbo identity we all parade today was given to us by the British an umbrella Igbo nation did not exist before

You seem to forget that marry Slessor and Ko were British let's stop these things, I know britain did a lot of horrible things here but let also not forget the stability and nationalism that came with it, if they were not uniting nations, maybe what you could have had today is Nsukka, Obitsha, Ikwerre, Nnewi, Orlu and so on so you can't condemn them for uniting Nigeria and then not appreciate them for uniting AlaIgbo

DeadCountry:

Listen. What obtains in Lebanon, can not be obtained in Biafraland. Different places, different problems. Nigeria's politics is something else compared to Lebanon's politics. Igbo people are different from Shitte Lebanese populace that is of Hizbula. In Igboland, there are lots of saboteurs that are ready to take bribe money from the dungeon's government to work for them to infiltrate any party that IPOB may float and work underground to make sure that such party does not succeed and in the process IPOB will become history.

We saw it happen to APGA where Okoroawusa did the saboteur job by infiltrating APGA, won the election under APGA, and then switched to APC, leaving APGA to be destroyed by other remaining saboteur moles within. IPOB are no fools to thread the same route. Use your brain when dealing with nigeria where there is no rule of law and laws are not respected. Stop comparing nigeria to Lebanon.

The Lebanese didn't follow a template but improvised such. So IPOB should find a way to get over funding issues and recruit people with brain not shouters.
What IPOB is doing is a just cause irrespective of their " Jewish shameful historical appropriation". Should they fail tomorrow, another group will rise within the next 30 years

BKayy:

They are protecting the interests of those that can't show any symbol of their national identity in public like what we saw in the case of Chinwetalu Agu.

By abhoring the symbol of a particular nation in the shambles of fake Country everyday life, how can someone with pro nationalistic attitude of such a nation survive in the politics of such country?
How can he enter in the first place if he sticks to his nationalistic attitude?
For example, If Peter Obi wore Rising sun in any of his campaign or tour in Nigeria would he be a free man today of inside the prison?

Both of us know the answer to the question above. So for a country that brutally suppress all form of national identity of a particular group like Ndigbo, What IPOB is doing is expected.
It is an open secret that IPOB will only succeed by defeating Nigeria openly in battle field like the Eritreans did to Ethiopia for Ndigbo to be free. It can't be negotiated because Nigeria made it so.

You are putting the horse before the cart, the constitution recognise immunity for some offices get your people in those damn position if you have the number get a fucken governor, Abaribe is an example, politics should be an ideological

Idiko1:


Please leave US out of this your idiotic shenanigan. United in the United States of America indicated independent states which came together to form a union. The unity which existed among individuals in US is rooted in patriotism. New York or California does not want the port of foreign contacts to exist only in the two states. Nigeria has done nothing to promote unity in country. The dumbass Muhammadu Buhari thinks only people who could occupy bureaucratic positions in Nigeria are people of his ethnic stock. Nigeria is already united without the consent of independent ethnic nationalities.

Now you are making a case much better so first you arrest that a United Nigeria is possible by first respecting our difference and then giving everyone a sense of belonging now you have a case, why not try to put this your thought into a constitutional approach and argue for this genuine inclusion and respect, and Buhari is swim in nepotism we all know

The question is now you realised your country is hijacked then you want a separate county, which is great, you had articulated your reason how do you want to go about seeking justice okay, leaving the union is an option but if you left becuase of a nepotistic individual did you solve the problem no, nepotism is individualistic and even your aspiring new country would have nepotist in it, how have Biafran/Eastern states been run?

BKayy:

The Lebanese didn't follow a template but improvised such. So IPOB should find a way to get over funding issues and recruit people with brain not shouters.
What IPOB is doing is a just cause irrespective of their " Jewish shameful historical appropriation". Should they fail tomorrow, another group will rise within the next 30 years

You are daft. IPOB has been improvising templates that will lead to freedom which are different from joining your dungeon's politics. Your dumb brain is the reason why you think that joining your dungeon's politics will lead IPOB anywhere. Baning politics in Igboland which IPOB has instituted is a template as well as the impending ban on fulani cows which is economic strangulation of the enemies as a route towards freedom. You are not seeing the advantages of those templates because you are aft and dump. Joining your dungeon's politics is not the only way of getting freedom. Sit down and watch how brainy people does things and stop shouting everywhere like a mad market woman.

AlexBells:

This is the self denial and self exoneration of typical African, the Yorubas could have United themselves really, let me remind you that the Yoruba kingdoms were fighting a 16 years war between themselves that ended with a British treaty.

You talk about Opobo and Bomny young man Opobo is an independent city state founded by king Jaja of Opobo they agreed to be a British protectorate so don't even think an AlaIgbo Republic or Ijaw Republic would just add Opobo in their maps.

You really believed the Tivs defeated Fulanis you mean if British did not stop them, you think what's going on today is same as the war Fulanis waged before, man this is terrorism and we need to up our games in counter terrorism,

Do you know about the Igala/Benin war, what you don't get is that Nigeria gave us some stability for a while, even the Igbo identity we all parade today was given to us by the British an umbrella Igbo nation did not exist before

You seem to forget that marry Slessor and Ko were British let's stop these things, I know britain did a lot of horrible things here but let also not forget the stability and nationalism that came with it, if they were not uniting nations, maybe what you could have had today is Nsukka, Obitsha, Ikwerre, Nnewi, Orlu and so on so you can't condemn them for uniting Nigeria and then not appreciate them for uniting AlaIgbo

Mtcheww.. Your view is very funny.

Germania was a battle field of severely fragmented tribal chiefs with non identifying as German until the roman Invasion and colonialisation.

What happened after they expelled the Romans?
Did someone from Hamburg maintain his hamburg identity or embrace the larger German Identity?
And by the way, before Jaja stepped foot into Opobo, Ndigbo were there. It was called "Igwe Nga" by the natives or how do you explain 14 families Jaja brought with him from Ubani giving birth to up to 30 thousand People of Opobo under 100 years like we have today. Except they give birth to 900 children per family which is impossible. Jaja only renamed it.

That one was for your Igbo misconception, now to the Yorubas. Need I remind you that the Persian empire and other great empires in the world including USA came out as a result of serious civil war within the nation which later gave rise to a union of a new country bonded by similar ideology and pain.

AlexBells:

You are putting the horse before the cart, the constitution recognise immunity for some offices get your people in those damn position if you have the number get a fucken governor, Abaribe is an example, politics should be an ideological

Mumu brain, Ojukwu as popular as he is couldn't even win his senatorial election in your dungeon, it's Abaribe that will win governorship election in your dungeon. Where is Ihedioh today and who is the current governor of Imo state and how did he get there? Nama brain, think for once in your miserable life. You sound too dumb.

DeadCountry:

You are daft. IPOB has been improvising templates that will lead to freedom which are different from joining your dungeon's politics. Your dumb brain is the reason why you think that joining your dungeon's politics will lead IPOB anywhere. Baning politics in Igboland which IPOB has instituted is a template as well as the impending ban on fulani cows which is economic strangulation of the enemies as a route towards freedom. You are not seeing the advantages of those templates because you are aft and dump. Joining your dungeon's politics is not the only way of getting freedom. Sit down and watch how brainy people does things and stop shouting everywhere like a mad market woman.

Read to understand.
Dont be a slave to your emotions. Read my post again and realise how off you reply is

AlexBells:

You are putting the horse before the cart, the constitution recognise immunity for some offices get your people in those damn position if you have the number get a fucken governor, Abaribe is an example, politics should be an ideological

You are the one putting the cart before the horse.
Is it humans that make constitution or constitutions that make humans?

This answers your questions.

Did the British people wait for constitution to fight Romans?
Did the Germans elect their people into Roman army or wait for their tribal prince's in the Roman army to present to the Emperor before revolting against the Roman Empire?

The humans are first before any constitution that is why constitutions are adjusted to suit the immediate human need in the country at the time.

I did not do political science or sociology but I know this one.

AlexBells:

Your paranoia is what's keeping everyone in Nigeria and I tell you what you can't break Nigeria with this attitude, come off it you can't keep insulting everyone's sensibilities and right those professors you address in that way knows what they seen,

My dear the truth is that the only thing keeping Nigeria together is Biafra, breaking Nigeria is very simple but we are going about it the wrong way and the people who always had the power to break Nigeria is a lot reserved when considering that option but try and read the history of Nigeria see who is going to be like Russia if Nigeria breaks,

Contrary to your figment of imagination, I am not paranoid. However I am sick and tired of Africans who still cling to inferior mentality planted by the colonial goons. Why must we kill each other for the simple fact a certain group wants to leave the union called Nigeria? Czech and Slovakia did not fire a shot in anger when they went their separate ways. Why are Africans so dumb?

Abetterperson:
I really want to know if people still believe in one Nigeria because from want am hearing on the streets, I fear for the unity of Nigeria

I used to but not anymore.

Idiko1:


Are you okay? No wonder you enjoyed posting craps on this forum. Currently, Nigeria is united because the union of ethnic nationalities is still intact. Unity has nothing to do with united or union.

We are not United .pls stop insulting our sensibility.Mr Born to rule .

AlexBells:

Now you are making a case much better so first you arrest that a United Nigeria is possible by first respecting our difference and then giving everyone a sense of belonging now you have a case, why not try to put this your thought into a constitutional approach and argue for this genuine inclusion and respect, and Buhari is swim in nepotism we all know

The question is now you realised your country is hijacked then you want a separate county, which is great, you had articulated your reason how do you want to go about seeking justice okay, leaving the union is an option but if you left becuase of a nepotistic individual did you solve the problem no, nepotism is individualistic and even your aspiring new country would have nepotist in it, how have Biafran/Eastern states been run?

I had better raised a young child than repaired a broken grown adult. Nigeria must be disintegrated to usher new vibrant beginning for new nation states.

BKayy:

Mtcheww.. Your view is very funny.

Germania was a battle field of severely fragmented tribal chiefs with non identifying as German until the roman Invasion and colonialisation.

What happened after they expelled the Romans?
Did someone from Hamburg maintain his hamburg identity or embrace the larger German Identity?
And by the way, before Jaja stepped foot into Opobo, Ndigbo were there. It was called "Igwe Nga" by the natives or how do you explain 14 families Jaja brought with him from Ubani giving birth to up to 30 thousand People of Opobo under 100 years like we have today. Except they give birth to 900 children per family which is impossible. Jaja only renamed it.

That one was for your Igbo misconception, now to the Yorubas. Need I remind you that the Persian empire and other great empires in the world including USA came out as a result of serious civil war within the nation which later gave rise to a union of a new country bonded by similar ideology and pain.

There is documentation and there is assumptions, the fact remains that as much as documents are the issue Opobo is an dependent city state no one is asking whether the Inhabitants are Igbos or not, the fact is that the inhabitants had recognised the Jaja family or dynasty as their leader so that's a minor issue they can chose where they stay of which I know the odds are in favour of Igbos

Then we all understand the impact of Unification, yes I remember the greek city states where anthens and Spartans where the most influential, Alexander the great had to unify but what about the cost of all the wars between the city states, that's exactly what the British helped us navigate and some of these Unification process naturally can take about a 100 years at least so what are you saying

If the British did not come, there could be war in yoruba land today and we don't forget that Aro Aro Confederacy was on the rise but all these war of Unification is costly, and the fact is that if the british did not comes, Nigeria could have come in the quite distance future becuase the more you conquered in the quest for unification the more you find out there are lots more to conquer

Let's approach this issue with caution, eventually the Igbos whover leads it post Nigeria would have some few wars like, Unifying Ikwerre, Opobo, Anioma and Bonny these people if they are not appealed to in the terms they understand can work with other willing tribe to ensure their independence and before you know we are all engulfed

Idiko1:


I had better raised a young child than repaired a broken grown adult. Nigeria must be disintegrated to usher new vibrant beginning for new nation states.

Before you give birth to a child two adult needs to be united and then the future of this child need to be considered otherwise you end up with a broken adult in the long run again

omoharry:
We are not United .pls stop insulting our sensibility.Mr Born to rule .

United and Union are different from unity. Together is united while unity is the feel and very intangible. Nigeria's system of education leaves much to be desired.

Idiko1:


Contrary to your figment of imagination, I am not paranoid. However I am sick and tired of Africans who still cling to inferior mentality planted by the colonial goons. Why must we kill each other for the simple fact a certain group wants to leave the union called Nigeria? Czech and Slovakia did not fire a shot in anger when they went their separate ways. Why are Africans so dumb?

The East was not the first to leave Nigeria, rember the Ambazonia was part of Nigeria, they asked to leave, their representatives asked to leave what you people don't get is that no one is holding Biafra back, Ojukwu was an appointed military officer during the time he asked to leave it was a Military government and popularity is about fire power

If MI Okpara or Zik asked to leave it could not have been a Military option but political approach but things happened too fast and the government was dissolved but today we have a democracy and then we are still going the Military option instead of politics, IPOB should sponsor a candidate secretly to vie for governorship in the seven Igbo State of Delta, Rivers, Enugu, Ebonyi, Anambra, Imo and Abia if they play their card well they could get one governor for a start

AlexBells:

Before you give birth to a child two adult needs to be united and then the future of this child need to be considered otherwise you end up with a broken adult in the long run again

In case of Nigeria, it was only the colonial stiffs. Are you in any form of illusion why Nigeria is a broken adult at 61?

Sergio101:
Dear Alexbell and Abohboy..... I have a question for you two, because I have been taking good note of you guys stand on the politics of igboland and Nigeria.

1. You two prefers "United Nigeria" to "one Nigeria"........ Can you guys clearly state the difference between this two, is it not the greatest confusion trying to make out meaning out of shits??. As a one Nigeria....
We are divided. As a United Nigeria..... The division will still be there, so what's clearly the difference. United-divided huh??

2. On the case of going contrary to the secession course.... My question to you two.
Do you not sometimes in your sober state think about the fate of your fellow Igbo brethren in the civil war, in subsequent years, and in recent happening. So according to you guys assumption the blood of these fallen heroes should go in vain...... Just to be a gentlemen of United-divided.......... Gentlemen my ass.

You said IPOB should mobilise the use of domination of politics of the state.
Is the Era of domination not gone??......... Understand that the stage at which IPOB is now, a step they lose, is a gain to Nigeria government. And even if IPOB try to let go every chaos, Nigeria government will not just count it as a win but will also try to eliminate every individual that has served for the IPOB (I. e IPOB DOC.).
Please you guys should clear me in your own view, the right direction and the implications of the steps you guys are trying to adopt.

One Henry one's Said, "is life so dear or so sweet to be bought with the price of chains on the neck??, Forbid it o Lord, I know not the course others may follow, but as for me...... Give me freedom or nothing"

Bkayy, idioki........ I love you guys view.
Thanks a lot

1. I never made any statement on a united Nigeria and I only use the term One Nigeria because it is the general term used today

2. On secession i've said very clearly until we make a united concerted push to put a good leader and a good government into power across the board I cannot support secession I must first see if Nigeria can truly work under said reforms before I can simply up and claim that secession is the right path Nigeria has every single ingredient needed to become a superpower
Large population
Large educated class
Hard working people
Natural Resources ( Oil, Coal, Gas, Tantalum, Gold, Iron, Tin, Bitumen etc. )
Large diaspora network
And access to the coast
So for such a great nation with such a massive potential to go to waste cannot be possible in my eyes until I see all groups come together and support a party outside of APC and PDP and give power to a good leader whether it be Moghalu, Durotoye, Adesina or just any other Nigerian that is fit to run the country well and not only at presidential level but from bottom to top all Nigerians make an effort to change the system till that day comes I cannot seriously take a stance on secession because we've never actually seen what Nigeria can be.

AlexBells:

There is documentation and there is assumptions, the fact remains that as much as documents are the issue Opobo is an dependent city state no one is asking whether the Inhabitants are Igbos or not, the fact is that the inhabitants had recognised the Jaja family or dynasty as their leader so that's a minor issue they can chose where they stay of which I know the odds are in favour of Igbos

Then we all understand the impact of Unification, yes I remember the greek city states where anthens and Spartans where the most influential, Alexander the great had to unify but what about the cost of all the wars between the city states, that's exactly what the British helped us navigate and some of these Unification process naturally can take about a 100 years at least so what are you saying

If the British did not come, there could be war in yoruba land today and we don't forget that Aro Aro Confederacy was on the rise but all these war of Unification is costly, and the fact is that if the british did not comes, Nigeria could have come in the quite distance future becuase the more you conquered in the quest for unification the more you find out there are lots more to conquer

Let's approach this issue with caution, eventually the Igbos whover leads it post Nigeria would have some few wars like, Unifying Ikwerre, Opobo, Anioma and Bonny these people if they are not appealed to in the terms they understand can work with other willing tribe to ensure their independence and before you know we are all engulfed

This is where you are wrong.
There won't be any war, after all is San Marino not a country in Italy?
You talk as if Igbo survival depend on Opobo or any of the mentioned group.

Igbo Nation "exists as a union of independent autonomous region" same as most reasonable nations in the world so any part of Igboland that doesn't want to join won't be forced except if a particular family or group within want to claim the place as a prize of conquest. That goes to the family you are claiming they were accepted by the people of Opobo. Was there any referendum on whether jaja will represent them?
Or any of such proof of acceptance?

I believe you now understand what I am talking about.
Almost al Nations in the world exist as a union of autonomous similar people including England (a significant amount are even vikings, celts etc)

Hausa, the same.
Yoruba is more visible.
Bini, the same
Ijaw never existed.

On the last part, who did you say "Ndigbo" will struggle with over OPOBO?
That is if Ndigbo was an imaginary alien or Opobo themselves are not one.

The whole documentation you speak of, shows and proves that Opobo and Ubani are not cases. The only ones that no longer tally with contemporary people on ground is Kalabari, Ogoni and Annang
If the later must be part of the new union. There scope and limits will be clearly defined

helinues:


So you mean the politicians holding political post in SE are from Taraba?

Cos as you claimed only Yoruba's are the one still interested in one Nigeria while your politicians are still receiving monthly oyel money

Muslim mugu.

BKayy:

You are the one putting the cart before the horse.
Is it humans that make constitution or constitutions that make humans?

This answers your questions.

Did the British people wait for constitution to fight Romans?
Did the Germans elect their people into Roman army or wait for their tribal prince's in the Roman army to present to the Emperor before revolting against the Roman Empire?

The humans are first before any constitution that is why constitutions are adjusted to suit the immediate human need in the country at the time.

I did not do political science or sociology but I know this one.

You are not considering that the humans are first and in the case of possible abuse the constitution would be prioritised, I'm happy that IPOB is emphasising a referendum becuase you can't tell me in honestly that there is an actual proof that the majority of Igbo people are rooting for Curent Biafra even during the war Biafra did not loose Becuse of Nigeria, Biafra lost because the best brains wanted Nigeria, 1. Zik, 2. Kaduna Nzeogwu 3. Emmanuel Ifeajuna to mention just 3 and I strongly believe even MI Okpara preffered that the war was delayed so if you want us to be fair we have to be transparent

DeadCountry:

Mumu brain, Ojukwu as popular as he is couldn't even win his senatorial election in your dungeon, it's Abaribe that will win governorship election in your dungeon. Where is Ihedioh today and who is the current governor of Imo state and how did he get there? Nama brain, think for once in your miserable life. You sound too dumb.

This is among the important thing some of us fail to understand.
Before you lead a group of people, you have to first of all read them.

Master their own characteristics........ IPOB is trying a little in this aspect. It's a general truth that Igbos and huge participation in politics are parallel. You can't just say that if igbos should channel their energy in politics that they gonna get their wish in a wagon mouth because definitely you know that it ain't possible. The politics of the collosal trivial giant cannot favor us. Igbos can only trive well in a silent politics of no chaos......... But won't work out in this Nigeria.

So,political participation is good but........ At this stage of the course of secession....... It won't work again

AlexBells:

The East was not the first to leave Nigeria, rember the Ambazonia was part of Nigeria, they asked to leave, their representatives asked to leave what you people don't get is that no one is holding Biafra back, Ojukwu was an appointed military officer during the time he asked to leave it was a Military government and popularity is about fire power

If MI Okpara or Zik asked to leave it could not have been a Military option but political approach but things happened too fast and the government was dissolved but today we have a democracy and then we are still going the Military option instead of politics, IPOB should sponsor a candidate secretly to vie for governorship in the seven Igbo State of Delta, Rivers, Enugu, Ebonyi, Anambra, Imo and Abia if they play their card well they could get one governor for a start

I am very happy you do not have monopoly on historical events. The southwestern part of what became Cameroon was joined to eastern part of Nigeria by the British on administrative convenience. It was not an integral part of Nigeria. The shot of who stays or leaves rested on the colonialists. Nigeria, Cameroon, Eastern region of Nigeria and southwestern region of Cameroon did not have a say in the matter. Who are the "They"?

AlexBells:

You are not considering that the humans are first and in the case of possible abuse the constitution would be prioritised, I'm happy that IPOB is emphasising a referendum becuase you can't tell me in honestly that there is an actual proof that the majority of Igbo people are rooting for Curent Biafra even during the war Biafra did not loose Becuse of Nigeria, Biafra lost because the best brains wanted Nigeria, 1. Zik, 2. Kaduna Nzeogwu 3. Emmanuel Ifeajuna to mention just 3 and I strongly believe even MI Okpara preffered that the war was delayed so if you want us to be fair we have to be transparent

Are you sure you've researched about the war at all?
You speak off.
BTW, Looking at Ndigbo, do we look like people that want to waste another second in Nigeria?

BKayy:

This is where you are wrong.
There won't be any war, after all is San Marino not a country in Italy?
You talk as if Igbo survival depend on Opobo or any of the mentioned group.

Igbo Nation "exists as a union of independent autonomous region" same as most reasonable nations in the world so any part of Igboland that doesn't want to join won't be forced except if a particular family or group within want to claim the place as a prize of conquest. That goes to the family you are claiming they were accepted by the people of Opobo. Was there any referendum on whether jaja will represent them?
Or any of such proof of acceptance?

I believe you now understand what I am talking about.
Almost al Nations in the world exist as a union of autonomous similar people including England (a significant amount are even vikings, celts etc)

Hausa, the same.
Yoruba is more visible.
Bini, the same
Ijaw never existed.

On the last part, who did you say "Ndigbo" will struggle with over OPOBO?
That is if Ndigbo was an imaginary alien or Opobo themselves are not one.

I said the odds are high that Opobo would join their Igbo brothers and sister but should they want they can be their own independent city state which was what they were,

And please first attribute the Igbo nation as an entity to the British otherwise by now you would have been fighting the wars of Unification, there could have been no way to navigate through without a war look at the Ikwerre today they are some of the yet to be unified Igboid units, we could have waged Military options against them and we shall if they make that the only option post Nigeria

Nigeria is the very Unification factor for everyone, without Nigeria, I don't think an Onitsha man could have seen himself as one with an Mbaise man even in next 100 years, who could have come up with Igbo Izugbe, you guys takes everything so much for granted becuase you didn't have to ever fight for independence

BKayy:

Are you sure you've researched about the war at all?
You speak off.
BTW, Looking at Ndigbo, do we look like people that want to waste another second in Nigeria?

Stop speaking for all Igbos each of you have different opinions on the state of Nigeria

BKayy:

Are you sure you've researched about the war at all?
You speak off.
BTW, Looking at Ndigbo, do we look like people that want to waste another second in Nigeria?

Conduct a referendum within your family if the respond you will get is not "if Nigeria is good, no one really need Biafra" be sincere about your finding, let's start there,