AlexBells:

Nobody is asking Nigeria to work as an entity the constituent can work independently, you can't think that the Fulani can over run Nigeria, if there is any Nigerian nation which have such capacity it is the Igbos abd the last time I checked we are not enslaving by nature.

I'm not saying that Nigeria should stay for a thousand years before getting it right, I'm only saying a thousand years is possible if you don't use the right approach, if you want Biafra it is fine but only the majority would decide that and you and I knows that the day the conduct a free and fair referendum in Nigeria, Biafra would loose

You know why, that they Nigeria would be confident enough to conduct a referendum it means that Nigeria had become great and majority would not want to leave a great Nigeria for the unkown that's my logic let's unify AlaIgbo and let those who want to make Nigeria a failed state continue, Biafrans are not the problem here once Nigeria fails we consolidate our own Republic but get involved in the fight and some terror would be inherited.

You are deluded if you think Nigeria will win a referendum in Igboland.
You need help. As you are so out of touch with reality.
NIGERIA is not and has never been a nation. Maybe you need to recheck Oxford dictionary for the meaning of a NATION.

NIGERIA will not get it right even for 1 billion years,there is no solid base to build a Nigerian unity on,as the constituent units are divergent and there is no outright majority culture/group to build the unity on.

Idiko1:


I shall take you for what you have written about yourself. However in Igbo culture and tradition, Ndigbo believed in the stance to fight off the external aggressors and then turn inward to discipline the wayward.

But when external aggressors use insiders by exploiting our preferences isn't better we find a Middle ground and unify ourselves first otherwise it won't be simple, we can't keep calling some of us saboteurs then forgetting that Nigeria was our country and Biafra too is an option..

When you call some Igbos saboteurs becuase they believe in Nigeria you inevitable behaves like a cancer which assumes its presence is more important than other peoples choice and not choosing exactly what the other chose makes you the bad guys irrespective of your reasons it is only transparent minds like u
Ours of this generation that can actually ensure a confident referendum

Idiko1:


You should ask if the so-called Nigeria have ever tried to build a good society. Good leaders do not fall from the sky. A society produces a good. In the the above crap, you buttressed the stream of thought only known to Nigerians. The problem is Nigeria.

Nigeria has produced many good leaders Okpara,Akintola,Awolowo,Azikiwe, Kano, Fanwhenheimi ( Don't know how to spell his name ), Mailafiah and many others to say Nigeria has failed to produce good leaders and stupid to say the least. It is the people who have failed to vote in the right leaders out of the hundreds that have contested in elections just watch in this election how Soludo or Ubah win instead of Maduka or Nwankpo our problem isn't the existence of Nigeria but the stupidity of the citizens

Igboid:


You are deluded if you think Nigeria will win a referendum in Igboland.
You need help. As you are so out of touch with reality.
NIGERIA is not and has never been a nation. Maybe you need to recheck Oxford dictionary for the meaning of a NATION.

NIGERIA will not get it right even for 1 billion years,there is no solid base to build a Nigerian unity on,as the constituent units are divergent and there is no outright majority culture/group to build the unity on.

This is where you get it wrong you can't be a judge in your own case, as a matter of fact I'm Nuetral and whatever majority chose we go with it, you can't be this over confident and assume that the referendum would be free

By your own idea you had already assumed that Biafrans are the majority then why do you still need a referendum, just declare your country, this is undecided a lot of people are angry with the leaders not Nigeria as country people are angry with nepotism not Nigeria and in all spheres of Nigeria there is wanton corruption Abaribe had not given any scholarship, Abia is in decay those are Biafra land,

So if you must ask for a referendum don't make the mistake of being the judge, people are free to own their choices

Igboid:


You are deluded if you think Nigeria will win a referendum in Igboland.
You need help. As you are so out of touch with reality.
NIGERIA is not and has never been a nation. Maybe you need to recheck Oxford dictionary for the meaning of a NATION.

NIGERIA will not get it right even for 1 billion years,there is no solid base to build a Nigerian unity on,as the constituent units are divergent and there is no outright majority culture/group to build the unity on.

You don't need a majority culture to build the nation upon and even if you did Nigeria already has one if you observe the religions of all of the ethnic groups in Nigeria and even up to Ghana they're basically identical between the Yoruba, Igbo, Edo, Urhobo, Nupe, Igala, Jukun, Ijaw and even groups in the hausa there's a clear link especially in the name of the divination systems Ifa, Afa, Efa, Fa, Epha, etc so there's already a sort of cultural and religious unity between different ethnic groups in Nigeria and what Nigeria needs is to develop a Nigerian identity that is key to the progress of our nation unfortunately that cannot be achieved if Nigerians keep on voting by ethnicity and not by merit or competency

Creating ethnic states won't magically give people the ability to vote good leaders

Abohboy:


If Igboland is peaceful then so will the inhabitants be peaceful the Aro still count as Igbos and conquered other lands and you still made no mention of why there would be Abam warriors extremely well trained fighters in existence if they were peaceful

This conversation is about Igbos you're the group canvassing the most for disintegration of Nigeria and yes most other places in modern day Nigeria weren't united until Nigeria was created but you tried to make the points that the Igbos were united which is false so why bring in other ethnic groups in Nigeria as if we don't already know that they weren't all united before Nigeria cane.

And in terms of Europe they became united over 400-500 years ago so that isn;t the same as in Africa stop trying to use that as an example

Igbo say "Mgbe onye ji teta bụ ụtụtụ ya"

Ndigbo face no serious external threat and as such saw no reason to have a centralised unity based on our distinct democracy (don't give your self the idea of monarchy like you Nigerians always do when unity is mentioned)

And as an automous place, each reserves the right to carry out any personal expedition she sits fit.

Didn't Oyo invade, displace and subjugate 80% of what is modern Yorubas in Nigeria?
80% of what was independent and autonomous people with many not even claiming Yoruba today?

Or Wessex doing their thing in England?
Or Paris holding theirs in Frankia?
Or the Pope doing his own personal wonders in Europe?
Or Naples in Italy?
Or Prussia in Germany?

Until the rise of the Ottomans and external aggressors, most of these people didn't see any need for a united Italy, France or England.

So now, there is a need for a united Igbo nation because of the threats and that is what any reasonable Igbo man should be working towards. The first step is to leave Nigeria

BKayy:

Isn't the emboldened what everybody including IPOB is asking for?
Why not support it instead of confusing yourself.

Secondly, I don't use only British account or colonial accounts if you really follow me.

That aside, Ikwerre that you people like using as an example existed and still exist as a fragmented towns with different ancestral theories. Ask anybody from that place

Back to your Onitsha problem. British never gave anybody the Igbo as Umbrella. They followed the directive of indigenes of Ubani who told them that the hinterland is made up of by fellow Ndigbo. They couldn't even get the pronunciation right and referred to us as Eboe, then Ibo before they left. It was our people that corrected it to the original form "Igbo"

PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS PART,
As for why I always use British map. Tell me any ancient paper map by any group in Africa that is more clear than those of British and Portuguese?
So me using it does not undermine our ancient peoples way of drawing the boundaries of Ndigbo.
Take your Google map and put in the names below.
Odenigbo
Umuigbo
Igbo Akiri (Changed to Igbanke by Samuel Ogbemudia in around 1971 or 2)
Igbidu (Igbo idụ)
Amaigbo.
These five Igbo towns lie at North, South, East, West and centre of Igboland showing our ancient peoples way of defining their map and boundary

If you look at those towns with Igbo suffix and prefix, you will notice that at approaching them, you will meet more of Igbo - suffix/prefix towns like Igbo Uzor for Igbo akiri or Obigbo for Ụmụ Igbo showing that as they expand, they put the beacon Igbo to the next town before moving over.

This is classical map of designing your map or placing your beacon into the people and land. Mind you, this hundreds of centuries before Nri, Aro confederacy etc talkless of Britain of yesterday.

Yes while I agree to the impact of the Igbo suffix you seem to forget that disconnected from the empires Bonny is the Arochukwu, the Aro confederacy had to fight intense war with the British,

in fact there is no AroIgbo, while the Igbo suffix impact can not be overlooked you need to understand that other earlier connected Igbos was had no Igbo suffix, the merchant stage of Bonny and Opobo was a later day reality

Onitcha had earlier been contacted and there Is no Igbo suffix to it, same is applicable to Aniocha, so as a matter of fact Arochukwu, Anioma and Onitsha most likely was contacted before Bonny,

There is also the impact of the Igbaukwu don't know if that's the correct spelling even if you had come across the work of Olauda the Igbo slave, he said he was from the Eboe area of the kingdom of Benin and as such I think he referring to Ika or Igbanke so what we are talking about is the Unification not the origin of the names

AlexBells:

But when external aggressors use insiders by exploiting our preferences isn't better we find a Middle ground and unify ourselves first otherwise it won't be simple, we can't keep calling some of us saboteurs then forgetting that Nigeria was our country and Biafra too is an option..

When you call some Igbos saboteurs becuase they believe in Nigeria you inevitable behaves like a cancer which assumes its presence is more important than other peoples choice and not choosing exactly what the other chose makes you the bad guys irrespective of your reasons it is only transparent minds like u
Ours of this generation that can actually ensure a confident referendum

The bolded is called distraction. A red-blooded Igbo person is always focused on the big picture. In this case of our discussion, the big picture is centered on the actualization of Republic of Igboland or Republic of Biafra. Any Igbo person who believed in Nigeria should not be allowed to site in a closed-door meetings among Igbo peeps. The unbelievers on Igboland are not only saboteurs, they do not deserve pint of air in Igboland.

BKayy:

Igbo say "Mgbe onye ji teta bụ ụtụtụ ya"

Ndigbo face no serious external threat and as such saw no reason to have a centralised unity based on our distinct democracy (don't give your self the idea of monarchy like you Nigerians always do when unity is mentioned)

And as an automous place, each reserves the right to carry out any personal expedition she sits fit.

Didn't Oyo invade, displace and subjugate 80% of what is modern Yorubas in Nigeria?
80% of what was independent and autonomous people with many not even claiming Yoruba today?

Or Wessex doing their thing in England?
Or Paris holding theirs in Frankia?
Or the Pope doing his own personal wonders in Europe?
Or Naples in Italy?
Or Prussia in Germany?

Until the rise of the Ottomans and external aggressors, most of these people didn't see any need for a united Italy, France or England.

So now, there is a need for a united Igbo nation because of the threats and that is what any reasonable Igbo man should be working towards. The first step is to leave Nigeria

If you leave Nigeria without Unification yoy would either get unified through a war or treaty at which Time war may be the only viable option so let's unify first

Abohboy:


You don't need a majority culture to build the nation upon and even if you did Nigeria already has one if you observe the religions of all of the ethnic groups in Nigeria and even up to Ghana they're basically identical between the Yoruba, Igbo, Edo, Urhobo, Nupe, Igala, Jukun, Ijaw and even groups in the hausa there's a clear link especially in the name of the divination systems Ifa, Afa, Efa, Fa, Epha, etc so there's already a sort of cultural and religious unity between different ethnic groups in Nigeria and what Nigeria needs is to develop a Nigerian identity that is key to the progress of our nation unfortunately that cannot be achieved if Nigerians keep on voting by ethnicity and not by merit or competency

Creating ethnic states won't magically give people the ability to vote good leaders

You need a uniting ideology usually belonging to the most dominant (populated) group to build a stable nation on.
India has myriads of ethnicities, but is build on dominant Hindi culture.
China is built on Han culture.

This is usually how it is. Even an anomaly like USA( built on a conquered territory of indigenous Ameridian tribes) was built on a strong Anglo-Saxon-Christiianity-Masonic foundation which everyone else coming there must fit into.
There are millions of Muslims in USA, but when you think USA, you think Christianity/Masonic.

Nigeria has none.

Afa of Ndiigbo has nothing to do with Ifa of Yorubas.
We are a distinct people from Yorubas both in our world outlook and even appearance.

We are nationally extreme capitalists while Yorubas favour socialism. We are predominantly Christians, while Yorubas are ambivalent between Islam and Xtianity.

The Igbo are a Yes or No people. Yorubas hold unto their "grey answers" tightly and rebrand it as "suffersticated".

We are Democratic and egalitarian in nature, Yorubas are Monarchical and hierarchical in nature.
None of those characteristics are bad as they serve groups who possesses them well, they are just not miscible.

And I have not even started talking about the Hausa-Fulanis.
These are extremities of social behaviors that can never be reconciled within same geographical expression. Not even Zik, Awo or Balewa could do that when it was still a bit less complex.
Insanity is repeating same mistakes over and over and expecting different results

Idiko1:


The bolded is called distraction. A red-blooded Igbo person is always focused on the big picture. In this case of our discussion, the big picture is centered on the actualization of Republic of Igboland or Republic of Biafra. Any Igbo person who believed in Nigeria should not be allowed to seat in a closed-door meetings among Igbo peeps. The unbelievers on Igboland are not only saboteurs, they do not deserve pint of air in Igboland.

Forget about the Republic of Biafra or Nigeria for the main time, not quite different from Nigeria still not homogenous unless an Igbo only Biafra, and I ask isn't same thing we are saying if the option is about Biafra and Nigeria why automatically think that majority would chose Biafra over Nigeria isn't that why we need a credible referendum and both Biafrans and Niferians are overtly corrupt in their methods of representing the peoples signals

AlexBells:

Yes while I agree to the impact of the Igbo suffix you seem to forget that disconnected from the empires Bonny is the Arochukwu, the Aro confederacy had to fight intense war with the British,

in fact there is no AroIgbo, while the Igbo suffix impact can not be overlooked you need to understand that other earlier connected Igbos was had no Igbo suffix, the merchant stage of Bonny and Opobo was a later day reality

Onitcha had earlier been contacted and there Is no Igbo suffix to it, same is applicable to Aniocha, so as a matter of fact Arochukwu, Anioma and Onitsha most likely was contacted before Bonny,

There is also the impact of the Igbaukwu don't know if that's the correct spelling even if you had come across the work of Olauda the Igbo slave, he said he was from the Eboe area of the kingdom of Benin and as such I think he referring to Ika or Igbanke so what we are talking about is the Unification not the origin of the names

I said at the Cardinal points not every town.
Ask anybody from Onitsha to list the names of town in Onitsha and allow you to tell us how "none Igbo sounding they are"
If you want to see the tickest igbo name for a town, look inside Onitsha.

As for Arochukwu, the name speaks for her. No need confusing yourself. It's foundation is well known in Igboland.

Ubani already have recorded testaments from the people, neighbours etc.

As for Olauda Equiano, he wrote what the British saw as a beacon at that time. When he wrote his book, the British consider everything in the South as part of Benin kingdom until their expedition into Igboland where they were forced to reconsider on the battle field. Most notably at the Igbo part of Delta were they learnt the truth the hard way

Idiko1:


The bolded is called distraction. A red-blooded Igbo person is always focused on the big picture. In this case of our discussion, the big picture is centered on the actualization of Republic of Igboland or Republic of Biafra. Any Igbo person who believed in Nigeria should not be allowed to site in a closed-door meetings among Igbo peeps. The unbelievers on Igboland are not only saboteurs, they do not deserve pint of air in Igboland.

And who told you that you are representing the intention of the majority of the Igbos by mentioning Biafra then why do you ask for a referendum when it is clear that those who don't associate with you would be tagged saboteurs,

I guess now you see why you are not progressing and only few people would tell you the truth for the fear of that tag you are not really asking for a referendum you already have your results and that's not the Igbo way of doing things

Igboid:


You need a uniting ideology usually belonging to the most dominant (populated) group to build a stable nation on.
India has myriads of ethnicities, but is build on dominant Hindi culture.
China is built on Han culture.

This is usually how it is. Even an anomaly like USA( built on a conquered territory of indigenous Ameridian tribes) was built on a strong Anglo-Saxon-Christiianity-Masonic foundation which everyone else coming there must fit into.
There are millions of Muslims in USA, but when you think USA, you think Christianity/Masonic.

Nigeria has none.

Afa of Ndiigbo has nothing to do with Ifa of Yorubas.
We are a distinct people from Yorubas both in our world outlook and even appearance.

We are nationally extreme capitalists while Yorubas favour socialism. We are predominantly Christians, while Yorubas are ambivalent between Islam and Xtianity.

The Igbo are a Yes or No people. Yorubas hold unto their "grey answers" tightly and rebrand it as "suffersticated".

We are Democratic and egalitarian in nature, Yorubas are Monarchical and hierarchical in nature.
None of those characteristics are bad, they are just not miscible.

And I have not even started talking about the Hausa-Fulanis.
These are extremities of social behaviors that can never be reconciled within same geographical expression. Not even Zik, Awo or Balewa could do that when it was still a bit less complex.
Insanity is repeating same mistakes over and over and expecting different results

The guy is trying to trigger a ripple into igbo unity so as to bring the fragmented Igbo that will result into the fake "Nigeria". While at it, he maintains the balance in Yoruba and Hausa part.
This shows his hypocrisy and hate for Igboland.
He prefers an Apocalypse of Igboland to herd into Nigeria. This man represents the Nigerian hate for the Igbo nation.
Go through all his posts

AlexBells:

If you leave Nigeria without Unification yoy would either get unified through a war or treaty at which Time war may be the only viable option so let's unify first

Leaving Nigeria signifies the unification.
The Romans said this to the Poles. That their revolutionaries are herding them to a choas where they will eat each other whole until Polish freedom.
Today look at Poland.
Just like expulsion of Romans from Poland and Germania signifies and resulted in the unification of Germania and Poland, Ndigbo leaving Nigeria will signify the emergence of Igboland/Alaigbo.

BKayy:

Igbo say "Mgbe onye ji teta bụ ụtụtụ ya"

Ndigbo face no serious external threat and as such saw no reason to have a centralised unity based on our distinct democracy (don't give your self the idea of monarchy like you Nigerians always do when unity is mentioned)

And as an automous place, each reserves the right to carry out any personal expedition she sits fit.

Didn't Oyo invade, displace and subjugate 80% of what is modern Yorubas in Nigeria?
80% of what was independent and autonomous people with many not even claiming Yoruba today?

Or Wessex doing their thing in England?
Or Paris holding theirs in Frankia?
Or the Pope doing his own personal wonders in Europe?
Or Naples in Italy?
Or Prussia in Germany?

Until the rise of the Ottomans and external aggressors, most of these people didn't see any need for a united Italy, France or England.

So now, there is a need for a united Igbo nation because of the threats and that is what any reasonable Igbo man should be working towards. The first step is to leave Nigeria

What are you talking about? England existed as one as far back as 1000AD before the battle of hastings with France and the Vikings even began so what is this external aggresors theory you're trying to make?

There's no valid reason to leave Nigeria unless the country doesn't work until we actially deal with the fundamental problems nothing will change no matter how much we divide ourselves the problem is bad leadership and stupid voters unless a concerted effort is made to solve both problems nothing will change even in Biafra unless we vote the right leaders we cannot suddenly claim that division will solve that problem


Now answer this question i've already asked 5 times

How does secession into different nations magically give people the ability to vote in the right leaders if they weren't able to do it in Nigeria before?

BKayy:

I said at the Cardinal points not every town.
Ask anybody from Onitsha to list the names of town in Onitsha and allow you to tell us how "none Igbo sounding they are"
If you want to see the tickest igbo name for a town, look inside Onitsha.

As for Arochukwu, the name speaks for her. No need confusing yourself. It's foundation is well known in Igboland.

Ubani already have recorded testaments from the people, neighbours etc.

As for Olauda Equiano, he wrote what the British saw as a beacon at that time. When he wrote his book, the British consider everything in the South as part of Benin kingdom until their expedition into Igboland where they were forced to reconsider on the battle field. Most notably at the Igbo part of Delta were they learnt the truth the hard way

You are confusing yourself, I'm not saying that names like Idemmili is not Igbo, or Arochukwu, I'm responding to your Igbo suffix logic why is Arochukwu not AroIgbo, why is Onitsha not Onigbo, why is Ikwerre not IkweIgbo, why is Orlu not OluIgbo, as a matter of fact the Imo River was always called the Imo River

Afikpo is Afikpo, so how did the suffix impact not show in Onitsha, Anioma, Mbaise, you would figure out that once they (British) figured out the Igbo stuff they would move to identify everyone else who has similar culture under that umbrella and thats how a unified AlaIgbo emerged otherwise there was no prior business between Ngwa Igbos and Onitsha Igbos

AlexBells:

And who told you that you are representing the intention of the majority of the Igbos by mentioning Biafra then why do you ask for a referendum when it is clear that those who don't associate with you would be tagged saboteurs,

I guess now you see why you are not progressing and only few people would tell you the truth for the fear of that tag you are not really asking for a referendum you already have your results and that's not the Igbo way of doing things

You prefer they conquer Nigeria like Eritrea did to Ethiopia before UN did the referendum which saw the independence of Eritrea.

When I look at Nigeria, I see Ethiopia. Only the discussions here serves as a template to how things are in Igboland. It is obvious that anybody against Nigeria is most probably an Igbo man while those against Nigeria are most probably non-igbo.

AlexBells:

Forget about the Republic of Biafra or Nigeria for the main time, not quite different from Nigeria still not homogenous unless an Igbo only Biafra, and I ask isn't same thing we are saying if the option is about Biafra and Nigeria why automatically think that majority would chose Biafra over Nigeria isn't that why we need a credible referendum and both Biafrans and Niferians are overtly corrupt in their methods of representing the peoples signals

Presently Biafrans do not actually exist because there no country called Biafra as of today. Please limit your references on Nigerians. I cannot follow you on this argument if we tend to digress. The societal demeanor among Nigerians of today is the creation of Nigeria. If Nigerians will visit US or UK and readily abide by the laws, Ndigbo or Biafrans will readily abide by the new laws found in Republic of Igboland or Biafra.

BKayy:

Leaving Nigeria signifies the unification.
The Romans said this to the Poles. That their revolutionaries are herding them to a choas where they will eat each other whole until Polish freedom.
Today look at Poland.
Just like expulsion of Romans from Poland and Germania signifies and resulted in the unification of Germania and Poland, Ndigbo leaving Nigeria will signify the emergence of Igboland/Alaigbo.

You are saying exactly what I'm saying how can you leave without justice, you can't tag people saboteurs when they could represent the majority and expect that they would fight for this exist, so unity first then what happens after would be the story for another day

BKayy:

Leaving Nigeria signifies the unification.
The Romans said this to the Poles. That their revolutionaries are herding them to a choas where they will eat each other whole until Polish freedom.
Today look at Poland.
Just like expulsion of Romans from Poland and Germania signifies and resulted in the unification of Germania and Poland, Ndigbo leaving Nigeria will signify the emergence of Igboland/Alaigbo.

This is so ahistorical that it's funny but continue

The fact of the matter is Nigeria dividing won't ensure good leadership or progress only thing that will is the people actually opening their eyes and voting in the right people if that isn't done then there's no hope for progress whatsoever

And the benefits of One Nigeria far outweight the benefits of Biafra a progressive Nigeria could signal the end of all dictatorships in Africa, signal an end to oppression and denigration of black people across the world and give us Africans a voice on the larger world platform you really think they can negate a superpower from having a voice?

Nigeria has everything it needs for massive growth and development all it lacks is good leadership

AlexBells:

You are confusing yourself, I'm not saying that names like Idemmili is not Igbo, or Arochukwu, I'm responding to your Igbo suffix logic why is Arochukwu not AroIgbo, why is Onitsha not Onigbo, why is Ikwerre not IkweIgbo, why is Orlu not OluIgbo, as a matter of fact the Imo River was always called the Imo River

Afikpo is Afikpo, so how did the suffix impact not show in Onitsha, Anioma, Mbaise, you would figure out that once they (British) figured out the Igbo stuff they would move to identify everyone else who has similar culture under that umbrella and thats how a unified AlaIgbo emerged otherwise there was no prior business between Ngwa Igbos and Onitsha Igbos

How do you pass exams?
I said a beacon. If you've bought land before, does the surveyor place beacons everywhere in the land?
Did I say that every town in Igboland must have Igbo attached to it?
I said toward the extreme of the Cardinal points.
For example, Igbo akiri is sharing borders with Bini

Umu-Igbo is in Ikwerre (Rivers state) further south of Arochukwu by the way.

Idiko1:


Presently Biafrans do not actually exist because there no country called Biafra as of today. Please limit your references on Nigerians. I cannot follow you on this argument if we tend to digress. The societal demeanor among Nigerians of today is the creation of Nigeria. If Nigerians will visit US or UK and readily abide by the laws, Ndigbo or Biafrans will readily abide by the new laws found in Republic of Igboland or Biafra.

Biafra existed between 1966 and 1967 and during those times, there was very limited transparency in the government of Biafra, we had no weapons yet no one knew the exact reality on ground and if not for the RAP team coming up with the Ogbunigwe there was nothing obviously on ground

Abohboy:


This is so ahistorical that it's funny but continue

The fact of the matter is Nigeria dividing won't ensure good leadership or progress only thing that will is the people actually opening their eyes and voting in the right people if that isn't done then there's no hope for progress whatsoever

And the benefits of One Nigeria far outweight the benefits of Biafra a progressive Nigeria could signal the end of all dictatorships in Africa, signal an end to oppression and denigration of black people across the world and give us Africans a voice on the larger world platform you really think they can negate a superpower from having a voice?

Nigeria has everything it needs for massive growth and development all it lacks is good leadership

There is no single benefit of Nigeria for Ndigbo.

Tell me one and I will tell you 5k bad side of Biafra.
It is a challenge

BKayy:

How do you pass exams?
I said a beacon. If you've bought land before, does the surveyor place beacons everywhere in the land?
Did I say that every town in Igboland must have Igbo attached to it?
I said toward the extreme of the Cardinal points.
For example, Igbo akiri is sharing borders with Bini

Umu-Igbo is in Ikwerre (Rivers state) further south of Arochukwu by the way.

You are not answering the question, don't avoid it, how did this beacon get adopted by the majority, was it not through the British by first introducing an encompassing language?

AlexBells:

Biafra existed between 1966 and 1967 and during those times, there was very limited transparency in the government of Biafra, we had no weapons yet no one knew the exact reality on ground and if not for the RAP team coming up with the Ogbunigwe there was nothing obviously on ground

Biafra existed as a response to ongoing genocide so which rule of government are you talking of when all through her existence was wartime

BKayy:

The guy is trying to trigger a ripple into igbo unity so as to bring the fragmented Igbo that will result into the fake "Nigeria". While at it, he maintains the balance in Yoruba and Hausa part.
This shows his hypocrisy and hate for Igboland.
He prefers an Apocalypse of Igboland to herd into Nigeria. This man represents the Nigerian hate for the Igbo nation.
Go through all his posts

Of course, the unity of Nigeria requires Igbo disunity to continue.
Every One NIGERIANIST whether Igbo or none Igbo will have to work hard on chipping away at the foundations of Igbo unity. It's the deal breaker.

AlexBells:

You are not answering the question, don't avoid it, how did this beacon get adopted by the majority, was it not through the British by first introducing an encompassing language?

Wait oh? Are you saying Britain made igbo language.
Like we were barking like dogs before Britain came and taught us how to speak?

My dear, those towns were existing thousands of years before Britain started existing.
Your question have been answered since.

Search for the meaning of the word "beacon"

BKayy:

How do you pass exams?
I said a beacon. If you've bought land before, does the surveyor place beacons everywhere in the land?
Did I say that every town in Igboland must have Igbo attached to it?
I said toward the extreme of the Cardinal points.
For example, Igbo akiri is sharing borders with Bini

Umu-Igbo is in Ikwerre (Rivers state) further south of Arochukwu by the way.

Don't forget Igbo-Etche too.

AlexBells:

And who told you that you are representing the intention of the majority of the Igbos by mentioning Biafra then why do you ask for a referendum when it is clear that those who don't associate with you would be tagged saboteurs,

I guess now you see why you are not progressing and only few people would tell you the truth for the fear of that tag you are not really asking for a referendum you already have your results and that's not the Igbo way of doing things

The bolded is the figment of imagination created by British. Who gives a ratass about referendum when IPOB's sit-at-home is very trendy? I had wanted those of you who had embraced the silly One-Nigeria to come out of the closet and publicly oppose the express train known as IPOB and the ideology of self-determination among Ndigbo.

BKayy:

You prefer they conquer Nigeria like Eritrea did to Ethiopia before UN did the referendum which saw the independence of Eritrea.

When I look at Nigeria, I see Ethiopia. Only the discussions here serves as a template to how things are in Igboland. It is obvious that anybody against Nigeria is most probably an Igbo man while those against Nigeria are most probably non-igbo.

What I just want people to understand is, first of all understand that not all Igbos are truthfully in preference of Biafra and people can only accept your referendum when you won't Prejudice them into a terrible tag of saboteurs just becuase the prefer to associate with a different ideology,

Igboid:


You need a uniting ideology usually belonging to the most dominant (populated) group to build a stable nation on.
India has myriads of ethnicities, but is build on dominant Hindi culture.
China is built on Han culture.

This is usually how it is. Even an anomaly like USA( built on a conquered territory of indigenous Ameridian tribes) was built on a strong Anglo-Saxon-Christiianity-Masonic foundation which everyone else coming there must fit into.
There are millions of Muslims in USA, but when you think USA, you think Christianity/Masonic.

Nigeria has none.

Afa of Ndiigbo has nothing to do with Ifa of Yorubas.
We are a distinct people from Yorubas both in our world outlook and even appearance.

We are nationally extreme capitalists while Yorubas favour socialism. We are predominantly Christians, while Yorubas are ambivalent between Islam and Xtianity.

The Igbo are a Yes or No people. Yorubas hold unto their "grey answers" tightly and rebrand it as "suffersticated".

We are Democratic and egalitarian in nature, Yorubas are Monarchical and hierarchical in nature.
None of those characteristics are bad, they are just not miscible.

And I have not even started talking about the Hausa-Fulanis.
These are extremities of social behaviors that can never be reconciled within same geographical expression. Not even Zik, Awo or Balewa could do that when it was still a bit less complex.
Insanity is repeating same mistakes over and over and expecting different results

Afa of the Igbo and Ifa of the Yoruba are very similar although cultural and social views vary ultimately they're both part of the Niger-Congo family group, they both share common words and practices ( Yam festival, masquerades etc. ) and the forms of religion are very similar we both use divination processes and we both use cowrie shells or kola nuts in these divination processes we both believe that direct contact with the supreme God, Olodumare or Chukwu isn't possible we both have a range of intermediary spirits Orisha or Alusi we both use music, chant, song, dance, incantation and divinations to invoke said spirits to help us but essentially the fact of the matter is that both groups share similarities and the same applies for the Edo, Jukun, Igala, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Nupe and even the Hausa to a certain degree there is the possibility to build a base upon our traditional religion and cultures which are all similar in fashion to each other

All it needs is a uniting figure to bring all these cultures under a singular Nigerian cultural and religious theme to make as a base and for the most part the Yoruba aren't Muslim it is about 10-20% which still leaves the vast majority there as Christians and traditionalists but Igbos do still have a few muslims among them and that fact cannot be denied although not as large as the Yoruba population i'd estimate up to 1-3% of the Igbo population are muslims but you get the point there is a clear unifying cultural and religious theme across Nigeria and even if we are to divide it should be that we secede from the north as in north proper Kano, Bauchi, Sokoto those places but retain Taraba, Kogi, Benue, parts of Niger you know the middle belt because we're all similar and united in that sense