Myer:


I get your point albeit religiously tainted as it is.

You're against the concept of Cross-over.
But whether it is termed cross-over or not, every Muslim prays into the new year.

So calling it a Bidah is just like Boko Haram giving western education a name when Islam actually promotes education (western or not).

louqas:


After reading through the post again i also went to your comment i quoted which is

"This is a funny post of the year on Nairaland, you Muslims don't want to celebrate Christmas but you can perform tahaajud today 31st December, 2021 to welcome the New year 01/01/2022 should we Christians be telling you what first day of the year means and stand for?"

The bolded part clearly means you are saying the opposite of what the original post said. It was clearly stated there that muslims are not allowed to perform tahjud on 31st...its innovation thats clearly forbidden.... so only you know where you got the impression that muslims are allowed to do any tahjud on 31st

Now go back and read everthing over again and this time around slowly

Myer:


Isnt a true Muslim meant to pray every day?
So why should the last day of the year (aka cross-over) be excluded?

The grouse here seems to be that Cross-over prayers is a Christian phenomenon. But actually it's a human phenomenon.
Most people regardless of religion or creed simply pray into the new year. Whether there is a cross-over service or not.

Yes, Muslims are meant to pray every day even the tahajuud (vigil) every every night if it’s convenient for you and it’s a sunnah (habit of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and most of the prophets before him (may peace be upon them all) and it’s also a command from Almighty Allah the most merciful that we should pray in some times of our nights.
The saying here was that TODAY'S NIGHT SHOULDN'T BE SPECIALISE FROM EVERY OTHER NIGHT as a Muslim if you used to engaged in vigil other night back.
And the choice is yours to believe or do whatever you wishes be you're not aswerable to anyone based on that except your Lord.

My Lord knows the best and everything.

Don't be blinded by the hatred for other religions.

RightChannel:
Those that will perform tahaajud tonight to Usher in the New year are not Muslims right but fake and pagans isn't it? When looking for the best example for confusion, Islam is the best word for this

SharonLoveth:


The bolded part is very clear and understood but if you have problem with simple sentence I will advice you to go back to primary school..

The op said can Muslims perform bla bla bla.. I took it up from December 25th which is slated as Christmas day to December 31st New Year Eve upto January 1st the first day of the year which I see is giving you Muslims big problem..

Now back to what I said earlier, Many mosques now are open for New year eve but condemning them means your religion (islam) needs total reformation. You Muslims don't want to celebrate Christmas but always open your mosques on December 31st to welcome a new year is that not a confusion at the highest order?? From December 25th to January 1st is how many days?? I gave Luke 2:21 to help you guys but still you find it difficult to comprehend. Ushering in January 1st which majority of you Muslims will do tonight means you're directly remembering the day of circumcision of Jesus Christ

Luke 2:21

And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.

Had it been your fake prophet Muhammad was circumcised you won't be argue blindly.

SharonLoveth:



Just like I did to your fellow Muslim, i will do the same for you too

After reading this short post, I am very sure you will gain something...

The Bible offers few clues on the birth of Jesus Christ. Celebrations of Jesus’ Nativity are not mentioned in the Gospels or Acts; the date is not given, not even the time of year. The Biblical reference to shepherds tending their flocks at night when they hear the news of Jesus’ birth ( Luke 2 : 8 ) might suggest the spring lambing season; in the cold month of December, on the other hand, sheep might well have been pen.


This stands in sharp contrast to the very early traditions surrounding Jesus’ last days. Each of the Four Gospels provides detailed information about the time of Jesus’ death. According to John, Jesus is crucified just as the Passover lambs are being sacrificed. This would have occurred on the 14th of the Hebrew month of Nisan, just before the Jewish holiday began at sundown (considered the beginning of the 15th day because in the Hebrew calendar, days begin at sundown). In Matthew, Mark and Luke, however, the Last Supper is held after sundown, on the beginning of the 15th. Jesus is crucified the next morning—still, the 15th.

There is another way to account for the origins of Christmas on December 25: Strange as it may seem, the key to dating Jesus’ birth may lie in the dating of Jesus’ death at Passover.

Around 200 C.E. Tertullian of Carthage reported the calculation that the 14th of Nisan (the day of the crucifixion according to the Gospel of John) in the year Jesus died was equivalent to March 25 in the Roman (solar) calendar.9 March 25 is, of course, nine months before December 25; it was later recognized as the Feast of the Annunciation—the commemoration of Jesus’ conception. Thus, Jesus was believed to have been conceived and crucified on the same day of the year. Exactly nine months later, Jesus was born, on December 25.


This is how New year arose;

since you agreed with me that your prophet Muhammad was not circumcised no how you will know that a Circumcision is after EIGHT DAYS.. From December 25th to January 1st is how many days??

Luke 2:21

And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.








But Muslims are celebrating Mawlid al-Nabi, is it not man made Holiday?? All you need is to apply common sense that is not common before responding to people's post

SharonLoveth:


Please do you have sight problem?? Read that short post again, forget about what your imams or alfas has told you.. Read the post again if winter was mentioned




There are many pagan holidays associated on the very date your prophet Muhammad was born, so what are you now insinuating?

gaskiyamagana:

Some muslims should not forget that Christianity is religion modified by Roman with different Roman gods and,as Roman kings modified their religion and worship so they want the same for weak muslims. Christians and Christianity are yet to recover from damages of Roman kings,yet they want other muslims to join them. Impossible.

gaskiyamagana:

motayoayinde:


SALAAM BRO.

LONG TIME OFF HERE.

Lukuluku69:


They are ushering in Janus Birthday: The Roman god of beginning which the month January represents.

Do you celebrate with Muslims when they end Ramadan? Do you?

eburuu:
of curse they are Muslim...but the fact is that its bediya
...and again you said islam is the real definition of confusion ...maybe true ...only few people like truth ..cristenity is an overlook scam organization they accept fornication. Gaynisim. Lesbianism. Adutry. They even went far to be fool and believe in a picture of an actor claim to be Jesus....islam is the only religion orders are scam and they will soon realize that I promise you just give a time .....peace be upon you mumin allah

RightChannel:


So Jesus Christ is now Janus ehm, who do you guys like this?

What are you celebrating during ramadhan, 1-0-1 is that one fasting?

Lukuluku69:


No Jesus is not Janus you Numbskull. Janus is a the Roman god of beginning and appropriately the first month of the Roman year which you people inherited was named after him. That is what we don't celebrate.

You get it now? As for Ramadan, please use Google to know all that it entails because if I tell you, your hatred for my kind won't let you believe.

RightChannel:


Why involving Jesus Christ to your stupidity then? Sense has eluded you I think you know?? We are celebrating Jesus Christ and not Roman god.. Meanwhile the calendar you are condemning is use to pay your salary if at all you are a working class, so why giving yourself unnecessary damage control since you are still under the same calendar?

I don't have to use Google before telling you that your ramadhan is a useless and a waste of time.. What is the essence of fasting in day that you've taken breakfast and dinner, you only missed launch, is that one fasting?

Lukuluku69:


Please go back to where I made my comment on this particular thread and show me where I made mention of Jesus and point it out to me.

As for Ramadan and what it entails, you can go jump into the Lagoon for all I care, whatever you believe of is your business.

As for your Roman Calendar that you claimed I am under, that shouldn't be an issue should it? The fact that many celebrate it doesn't make it right does it?

I know Your Jesus never reckon time the way present day followers of his do or do they?

He was a Jew and they have their own way of keeping time and I can tell you that January was never a month name in Jewry.

RightChannel:


We are celebrating Jesus Christ and not a Roman gods while the January 1st which marks the begining of another year is the eight days from December 25th to January 1st as the remembrance day of circumcision. Had it been your fake prophet was circumcised, you'll understand this more better


On the other hand, what is the essence of fasting in a day that you've taken breakfast meal 1-0-1 na fast!!!

Lukuluku69:


You are a total waste of valuable time. So, December 31st was the day you set aside for the Circumsicion of your man-god?

This one don lost tey tey.

As for Ramadan, you can go jump in the Lagoon.

RightChannel:


Is your sight organ working properly? Read my posts again.. NOTE: Be calm and read them slowly and gently

Lukuluku69:


Are you brain Cells working properly? Read my post again. NOTE: Be calm and read them slowly and gently Dumbo!

RightChannel:


Are you frustrated? Read my post again and point out where I mentioned December 31st as the remembrance day of circumcision

Lukuluku69:


Odeh, read the Topic of this thread again slowly and try use some brain power. It is free

Myer:


Isnt a true Muslim meant to pray every day?
So why should the last day of the year (aka cross-over) be excluded?

The grouse here seems to be that Cross-over prayers is a Christian phenomenon. But actually it's a human phenomenon.
Most people regardless of religion or creed simply pray into the new year. Whether there is a cross-over service or not.

Don't be blinded by the hatred for other religions.

Rashduct4luv:


Read the OP you will understand. We pray Salah and Supplicate everyday as prescribed in our texts. Celebrating New year does not exists in Islam. The Calendar came from the pagans!



How do you define most people? Do you even know Muslims have the Lunar 12 months Calendar of which the Muslims fasting and Hajj is based? Once again New year is not in Islam.



How does urging Muslims to mind their business translate to hatred?
And how is this paining you?

RightChannel:


I can see you've been frustrated already if you have opportunity to come down here, I am very sure you'll blow up this my office for me with this your anger sorry bro

Lukuluku69:


Dumbo, no one is blowing up your sorry state of existence. It is no use

You said January 1st is when you Dolts celebrate Jesus Circumcision, so what date do you celebrate his naming ceremony?

Odeh.

Bimpe29:


Answers to your question:

1. There was no direction or obligation for Muslims to observe Tahajud during 31st December but there's such verse to always observe Tahajud every night as provided for in Surat Israi ''Establish Prayer from the declining of the sun to the darkness of the night; and hold fast to the recitation of the Qur'an at dawn, for the recitation of the Qur'an at dawn is witnessed.''

2. The five times of Prayer are not explicitly written in the Quran, although they're certainly implied.

For example, the Surah 11 Hud, Ayat 114-114 reads, "And establish the Prayer at the two ends of the day and in the first hours of the night. Indeed the good deeds drive away the evil deeds. This is a Reminder to those who are mindful of Allah."

This seems to refer to Salat al-fajr, Salat al-maghrib and Salat al-'isha.

Surah 50 Qaf Ayat 39 goes, "Therefore, O Prophet (saws), bear with patience whatever they say, and keep up glorifying your Lord with his praise, before sunrise and before sunset. And glorify Him again in the night and also when are free from prostrations."

This seems to refer to Salat al-fajr, Salat al-asr and Salat al-'isha.

Surah 30 Rum Ayat 17-18 states, "So, glorify Allah in the evening and in the morning; all praise is for Him in the heavens and the earth- as well as in the afternoon and at noon."

This seems to refer to Salat al-fajr, Salat al-zuhr, Salat al-asr and Salat al-magrib.

If you take them together, they point to the Salat needing to be prayed five times a day.

3. Meanwhile, Muslims must not for any reason marry more than 4 wives as directed in Surat Nisai ''If you fear you cannot act fairly towards the orphans—then marry the women you like—two, or three, or four. But if you fear you will not be fair, then one, or what you already have. That makes it more likely that you avoid bias.''

Myer:


While I understand your point, can you prove this is not because of your hatred for Christianity?

Cos obviously like you acknowledged, a Muslim is expected to pray every day of the year.

It doesn't matter whose calendar you follow.

Rashduct4luv:


You will have to prove that Muslims hates Christian! You can celebrate as you like whether its in your Books or not.
But in Islam, we don't do that. Yearly celebrations are just two in Islam.


Prayer is the Salah that is obligatory on Muslims at least 5 times daily. This prayer is different from supplication which can be said anytime!

Our Prayer or supplication is not attached to year end or year beginning!

So in essence, no one preaches hatred against Christians.
Islam does not innovate new forms of worship as the Prophet of Islam has completed the ways to worship our Lord for us.

RightChannel:
Hope you are now okay? How far your eye