NOETHNICITY:
If isreali membership helps the continent then african countries would have been the ones clamouring for isreali membership. But the reverse is th e case this time around

The way African politics is run makes it difficult for African states to assert themselves. African presidents only parrot the views of their western handlers. You can see how ECOWAS states are basically fighting Mali to entrench french interests..

TjoBATHONG:
All hail mighty SA and Algeria - while the rest of the continent tried to sell out. Next SA and Algeria must oust Morocco Apartheid won't be tolerated.

Didn't Nigeria support Israel?

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free your brain and not palestine. Terrorist

Righteousness2:
These are the End of Endtimes and GOD is making Israel the Center of World politics because HE wants Deal with the Nations and make them understand that the GOD OF ISRAEL is the one that Runs the earth.

It will be very Foolish of African leaders to put themselves in any form against Israel because of some disgruntled elements.

You Grant Isreal Observer status or Not is Irrelevant.

Israel is a special Nation that the whole Earth will bow and Submit to. You like it or you don't is irrelevant.
Israel is GOD ALMIGHTY Personal project! She is a Covenant Nation. It is through Isreal that all the Nations in the world are Blessed.
Putting yourself against them in the name of this or that is putting yourself against GOD ALMIGHTY. It is Disaters and Disatrous!

By the time GOD is through with Nations, those alive will run and Embrace the GOD of Israel

Watch yourself! You are proving to be an antichrist and you are oozing illiteracy.
It's the ancient Israel that was an israel of God. They knew God, built a temple for him, had the ark of the convenant and had kings that "sat on the throne of Jehovah."
This present israel doesn't serve God...they have invented a religion called Judaism that is totally different from the religion moses gave them. What more? They don't even recognize the chief messenger of salvation, Jesus christ. They persecute Christians even. They are just mixtures of people that can't really trace their genealogy. In Ancient israel one could tell the tribe he came from and even trace down his roots.
Didn't you hear clearly where Jesus told them he has left them to there house, that he wont gather them again. They killed the chief servant of God! Jesus said he has given their rights to other people. These things are in the bible. Why are you always blabbing out of ignorance?! Where are you allowing sentiments to cloud your mind?!
Who are this new people that have the rights now? They are the new israel of God. The Christians. This are Gods people now. They recognise and associate with his Son. And they are not limited to just one location but are in every nations and cant even be counted like God promised abraham. Glory.
Are we related to Abraham by blood, may be not. But we have been adopted by the shedding of the blood of the lamb. We have been grafted to the tree. The original branch (israel in the flesh) that wasn't bringing forth good fruits has been cut off.
Read your bible really bro. Spread accurate knowledge of God. All these things I said are clearly in the bible..u should know. Let me quote one bible again. Its says; "God is not partial but anybody in any nation fearing him he gives approval."
You anger me sometime but I will always love u.

compton11:
Come and see how our naija christian brothers will turn this to religious stuff.

It's irritating and the craziest part about it is that the Israelis are not even Christian

Rugaria:
Why should Israel be denied such status if there are any benefits for Africa? Must we tie the whole continent down to The Arab/Palestinian/Israeli debacle? Is this continent the property of the Arabs? Even the gulf states are fast joining Israel in all kinds of collaborations and these North African countries are busy stoking age long feuds.. The important thing there to note is whether the Israeli membership helps the continent. If yes, ahead ahead! There're no permanent friends or enemies in international relations..

Why do you want Israel to be an observer you religious piece of shit, I'm sure this won't be your stand of it were to be Iran or Saudi Arabia
And what stupid benefit do you think in your head would there possibly be

Righteousness2:
These are the End of Endtimes and GOD is making Israel the Center of World politics because HE wants Deal with the Nations and make them understand that the GOD OF ISRAEL is the one that Runs the earth.

It will be very Foolish of African leaders to put themselves in any form against Israel because of some disgruntled elements.

You Grant Isreal Observer status or Not is Irrelevant.

Israel is a special Nation that the whole Earth will bow and Submit to. You like it or you don't is irrelevant.
Israel is GOD ALMIGHTY Personal project! She is a Covenant Nation. It is through Isreal that all the Nations in the world are Blessed.
Putting yourself against them in the name of this or that is putting yourself against GOD ALMIGHTY. It is Disaters and Disatrous!

By the time GOD is through with Nations, those alive will run and Embrace the GOD of Israel

Lol so your sky daddy has a preference, Israel is a "special nation", I thought he created and loves all of us, I thought we were all his children?

The God of Israel is a Jew .

The only reasons million of Jews exist today was because Hitler carried his werey to neighbouring countries. Left to his 'Christian' neighbors, they wouldn't have cared if maimed all the Jews.

Righteousness2:
These are the End of Endtimes and GOD is making Israel the Center of World politics because HE wants Deal with the Nations and make them understand that the GOD OF ISRAEL is the one that Runs the earth.

It will be very Foolish of African leaders to put themselves in any form against Israel because of some disgruntled elements.

You Grant Isreal Observer status or Not is Irrelevant.

Israel is a special Nation that the whole Earth will bow and Submit to. You like it or you don't is irrelevant.
Israel is GOD ALMIGHTY Personal project! She is a Covenant Nation. It is through Isreal that all the Nations in the world are Blessed.
Putting yourself against them in the name of this or that is putting yourself against GOD ALMIGHTY. It is Disaters and Disatrous!

By the time GOD is through with Nations, those alive will run and Embrace the GOD of Israel

Righteousness2:
These are the End of Endtimes and GOD is making Israel the Center of World politics because HE wants Deal with the Nations and make them understand that the GOD OF ISRAEL is the one that Runs the earth.

It will be very Foolish of African leaders to put themselves in any form against Israel because of some disgruntled elements.

You Grant Isreal Observer status or Not is Irrelevant.

Israel is a special Nation that the whole Earth will bow and Submit to. You like it or you don't is irrelevant.
Israel is GOD ALMIGHTY Personal project! She is a Covenant Nation. It is through Isreal that all the Nations in the world are Blessed.
Putting yourself against them in the name of this or that is putting yourself against GOD ALMIGHTY. It is Disaters and Disatrous!

By the time GOD is through with Nations, those alive will run and Embrace the GOD of Israel

Ok. But arabic is the most popular language in Africa. And buhari is president so, there!

[quote author=Righteousness2 post=110008821][i]These are the End of Endtimes and GOD is making Israel the Center of World politics because HE wants Deal with the Nations and make them understand that the GOD OF ISRAEL is the one that Runs the earth.

It will be very Foolish of African leaders to put themselves in any form against Israel because of some disgruntled elements.

You Grant Isreal Observer status or Not is Irrelevant.

Israel is a special Nation that the whole Earth will bow and Submit to. You like it or you don't is irrelevant.
Israel is GOD ALMIGHTY Personal project! She is a Covenant Nation. It is through Isreal that all the Nations in the world are Blessed.
Putting yourself against them in the name of this or that is putting yourself against GOD ALMIGHTY. It is Disaters and Disatrous!

By the time GOD is through with Nations, those alive will run and Embrace the GOD of Israel
Obviously u're one of those religious fanatics. So cos Israel is so called God's country that makes it right to practice apartheid against the Palestinians, Humiliate & kill both young & old on daily basis ? I thought God created humans in His own image. I guess it's one of those contractions in the Bible.

U dey craze na only Isreali your god love, we are all slave of that your Isreali

Righteousness2:
These are the End of Endtimes and GOD is making Israel the Center of World politics because HE wants Deal with the Nations and make them understand that the GOD OF ISRAEL is the one that Runs the earth.

It will be very Foolish of African leaders to put themselves in any form against Israel because of some disgruntled elements.

You Grant Isreal Observer status or Not is Irrelevant.

Israel is a special Nation that the whole Earth will bow and Submit to. You like it or you don't is irrelevant.
Israel is GOD ALMIGHTY Personal project! She is a Covenant Nation. It is through Isreal that all the Nations in the world are Blessed.
Putting yourself against them in the name of this or that is putting yourself against GOD ALMIGHTY. It is Disaters and Disatrous!

By the time GOD is through with Nations, those alive will run and Embrace the GOD of Israel

CXLVII:



Another uninformed lot!

Who told you Israel is a Christian nation?

Are you aware Christians are also being victimized by Jews in Israel?

And do you know their are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?

Same Nation deporting black American and African Jews? You Lords Chosen members have been poorly informed from time immemorial.

This thing about Israel is not based on what you see with your naked eyes. It's not about "rational thinking". It transcends all that. But you, my friend, will not understand.

ono:


This thing about Israel is not based on what you see with your naked eyes. It's not about "rational thinking". It transcends all that. But you, my friend, will not understand.

Transcends what? That Christians are less than 3% in Israel and Muslims over 17%. That Jews are very proud of Judaism and see every other religion as inferiors?

What needs a microscope? That Ethiopian and black American Jews were once facing deportation?

Or that Jews don’t even believe in Jesus and believe The Messiah is yet to come?

Tell me what needs a binoculars to know. I work in a multi racial environment and I know more about Jews. If it might even interest you, Jews and Arab even share similar culture, diet and tradition, than any others culture in the world. Why you here some people say they are just brothers fighting.

So what needs a stethoscope in all have stated?

South Africa a country that's it's citizens hates other Africans is talking against Isreal ..... Algeria with terrorist pacifist is also having a say against Isreal. Who is more Apartheid amongst the two than Isreal ??

Righteousness2:
These are the End of Endtimes and GOD is making Israel the Center of World politics because HE wants Deal with the Nations and make them understand that the GOD OF ISRAEL is the one that Runs the earth.

It will be very Foolish of African leaders to put themselves in any form against Israel because of some disgruntled elements.

You Grant Isreal Observer status or Not is Irrelevant.

Israel is a special Nation that the whole Earth will bow and Submit to. You like it or you don't is irrelevant.
Israel is GOD ALMIGHTY Personal project! She is a Covenant Nation. It is through Isreal that all the Nations in the world are Blessed.
Putting yourself against them in the name of this or that is putting yourself against GOD ALMIGHTY. It is Disaters and Disatrous!

By the time GOD is through with Nations, those alive will run and Embrace the GOD of Israel

Is Israel practicing Judaism or Christianity?

thinkmoney:

Watch yourself! You are proving to be an antichrist and you are oozing illiteracy.
It's the ancient Israel that was an israel of God. They knew God, built a temple for him, had the ark of the convenant and had kings that "sat on the throne of Jehovah."
This present israel doesn't serve God...they have invented a religion called Judaism that is totally different from the religion moses gave them. What more? They don't even recognize the chief messenger of salvation, Jesus christ. They persecute Christians even. They are just mixtures of people that can't really trace their genealogy. In Ancient israel one could tell the tribe he came from and even trace down his roots.
Didn't you hear clearly where Jesus told them he has left them to there house, that he wont gather them again. They killed the chief servant of God! Jesus said he has given their rights to other people. These things are in the bible. Why are you always blabbing out of ignorance?! Where are you allowing sentiments to cloud your mind?!
Who are this new people that have the rights now? They are the new israel of God. The Christians. This are Gods people now. They recognise and associate with his Son. And they are not limited to just one location but are in every nations and cant even be counted like God promised abraham. Glory.
Are we related to Abraham by blood, may be not. But we have been adopted by the shedding of the blood of the lamb. We have been grafted to the tree. The original branch (israel in the flesh) that wasn't bringing forth good fruits has been cut off.
Read your bible really bro. Spread accurate knowledge of God. All these things I said are clearly in the bible..u should know. Let me quote one bible again. Its says; "God is not partial but anybody in any nation fearing him he gives approval."
You anger me sometime but I will always love u.

go back to your bible and correct your misinformation. The apostle Paul wrote that the Israelites had to reject the gospel of Christ for it to reach other nations (Romans chapter 11 emphasis on verse 25).
He admonished the gentiles not to think themselves superior based on the fact that the Israelites rejected the goodnews- he said it was all plans of Jehovah.He made a prophecy about there acceptance during the end times.

God's blessing to Abraham and his offsprings where forever and bases on no condition.Go back to the books of Revelation

Note again the discussion between Jesus and the Samarian woman at the well, how he claimed he won't give food meant for children to dogs and the woman replied about the scraps falling from the table. It simply means that the children had to reject the meal so that outsider's can now partake of it.

There are other examples even in the old testament. From the prophecies of Isaiah and many more-speaking to events of today.

it spoke of the restoration of the Jews to there homeland, the destruction of the abomination sitting on the temple site,the gathering of world powers at a site Armageddon to challenge Gods superiority,it spoke about the last great power that will pitch his war tents in the middle of the great oceans, it spoke of the great false prophet that has lead many away and many more. We think most of those prophecies haven't happened ,bit it has already occured. The ancient christian cities of Antioch, Ephesus and many more have been lead astray and the world left with an European version of the faith .

And by the way, Judaism isn't a modern invention,it still keeps strictly in line as much as possible with the ancient practices of Jews of old-correct that your fallacy.

ken6488:

I swear Africa mentality eeh

They will only land themselves into trouble. When the west find time to look into their case, Lawrence gbagbo, Gadaffi, Tunisia, Morsi (Egypt's) cases will be a child's play.

MangekyoAlt:


SOURCE

Fake news, the news said the report has not been confirmed yet but the headline says another thing.

Fake news as usual.

TjoBATHONG:


Dude, are u certain about this news? My source says the decision has been delayed for a year, and a panel will be set up to discuss this (according to Israeli news outlets).

It is a fake news.

From the report you can see it says the report from Algerian source has not been confirmed.

compton11:
nigga direct your frustration to the same Israel that nailed your Messiah on tree.

Taco , Israel didn't nail any Messiah, a Jewess sex slave of mohammed rather poisoned the Paedophile to death - Sahih Bukhari 4428 , if that's the reason mohammed and yourself hated Jews , direct your hatred to Rome/ Italian Government

MangekyoAlt:
according to aljazeera, the Palestinian president called for the AU to revoke isreals observer status.

Moments later, Buhari visited the same Palestinian president

Abeg what did buhari go there to discus with this man?

The children of Belial and their hatred of the tiny country, Israel bigger than them all. A proof of the existence of the true YHWH God.

hashtagged:
Even if we are Christians, we should not be blind to the fact that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is worse than apartheid south Africa and we cannot let that western backed monster to be observers of our great continent. All live matter be it Muslim, Christian, atheist or Hindus acknowledging this is the first step towards peaceful coexistence

Even if we are Christians.



All these pedophile prophet worshippers pretending to be Christians on Nairaland.

eduj:


go back to your bible and correct your misinformation. The apostle Paul wrote that the Israelites had to reject the gospel of Christ for it to reach other nations (Romans chapter 11 emphasis on verse 25).
He admonished the gentiles not to think themselves superior based on the fact that the Israelites rejected the goodnews- he said it was all plans of Jehovah.He made a prophecy about there acceptance during the end times.

God's blessing to Abraham and his offsprings where forever and bases on no condition.Go back to the books of Revelation

Note again the discussion between Jesus and the Samarian woman at the well, how he claimed he won't give food meant for children to dogs and the woman replied about the scraps falling from the table. It simply means that the children had to reject the meal so that outsider's can now partake of it.

There are other examples even in the old testament. From the prophecies of Isaiah and many more-speaking to events of today.

it spoke of the restoration of the Jews to there homeland, the destruction of the abomination sitting on the temple site,the gathering of world powers at a site Armageddon to challenge Gods superiority,it spoke about the last great power that will pitch his war tents in the middle of the great oceans, it spoke of the great false prophet that has lead many away and many more. We think most of those prophecies haven't happened ,bit it has already occured. The ancient christian cities of Antioch, Ephesus and many more have been lead astray and the world left with an European version of the faith .

And by the way, Judaism isn't a modern invention,it still keeps strictly in line as much as possible with the ancient practices of Jews of old-correct that your fallacy.

First I have a feeling that its Righteousness speaking here with me with another moniker or an associate of his.
We have to agree to conform only to the bible. You haven't conformed at all and I will show you out.
Romans 11 explained very well the situation with the jews. The jews were people constituted to be a blessing to the whole world. They have achieved that in the sense that the messiah has come through them. But like that Romans 11 clearly states; they have denied this messiah and the old way has given way to the new--christianity. There aren't 2 ways again. There can't be! Jesus is The way the truth...salvation now is only through him. There is no preference to the jews like I early quoted from the bible, "in every nation, a man doing the will of God is approved".
Furthermore, Roman's 11, made us know there will be a remnant like the remnant during Elijah's time when he told God that his people, the jews have killed all the prophets, but those remnants can only now be saved if they are regrafted back to the tree Roman's 11:23.
Being a jew is no longer by works or following of some traditions and rituals, like Judaism. Roman's 11:6. Who are now the jews? "But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code. That person’s praise comes from God, not from people."
Romans 2:29. This are the Israelites now! The new Jerusalem! Will there be reason for a new Jerusalem if the old was still there?
And stop being either a liar or an ignorant by saying the promise of God to Israel was not based on a condition. Let me show you here a the condition; At Exodus 19:5, 6, God promised them: “If you will obey Me faithfully and keep My covenant, . . . you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.” Thus, the Israelites would become a ‘chosen people’ (THE REAL CHOSEN) to serve God’s purposes. However, the fulfillment of the covenant promises was subject to the condition “If you will obey.”
Like you pointed out, God said he will gather them and bring them back to their homeland. Yes, God fulfilled this promise several time. From the captivity in Egypt and the mass exiles during the time of Assyria and Babylon. However, Jesus said eventually that he will stop gathering them like an hen gathers her young. That he has left their house to them but now opened the chance for some new people. This is the situation of the present day political israel. The Christian organisation is the one fulfilling the role of Gods israel now. It's the one being a blessing to every nation. If people from the modern day nation of Israel (infact there have been many) accepts christ and become Christians, they will form the remnants and be regrafted. Simple! There is no two provisions to salvation.
Now, I suspect you are short of knowledge. I will help you describe the modern Judaism. Put in mind that soon when God constituted the ancient nation of israel, he gave them some totem to signify his acceptance of them and presence with them. Chief among these was the ark of the convenant which was first in the terbanacle then in the two subsequent temples. True to God abandoning them, they don't have this ark again and no temple or terbanacle. But new ark (Jesus) and temple (Christians) have been raised up to God now. Now to describing the modern Judaism; JUDAISM (Juʹda·ism). The Jewish religious system. (Ga 1:13, 14) In the first century C.E., Judaism in its various forms was not based exclusively on the Hebrew Scriptures. One of the most prominent divisions of Judaism, that of the Sadducees, rejected the Scriptural teaching of the resurrection and denied the existence of angels. (Mr 12:18-27; Ac 23: Although the Pharisees, who formed yet another important branch of Judaism, sharply disagreed with the Sadducees on this (Ac 23:6-9), they were guilty of making God’s Word invalid because of their many unscriptural traditions. (Mt 15:1-11) Not the Law, which was actually a tutor leading to Christ (Ga 3:24), but these unscriptural traditions made it difficult for many to accept Christ. The Law itself was good and holy (Ro 7:12), but the traditions of men served to enslave the Jews. (Col 2: It was an ardent zeal for ‘the traditions of his fathers’ that caused Saul (Paul) to be a vicious persecutor of Christians.—Ga 1:13, 14, 23;
Judaism has over the years gone beyond the Torah which is the word of God and formulated some talmund, which involves inventions and fables, coupled with hedonistic philosophy and Hinduism believes. Many don't believe in resurrection but believe in reincarnation. They think the soul survives in some animals. All claims in stark difference to the Judaism moses introduced. What more? They don't believe in the messiahship of Jesus or are even still expecting any messiah. They have given up!
Think. Why would Jesus need to preach to them and introduced and try bring them back if their religion was still acceptable? Think. Would there have been need for Paul's conversion from Judaism (he was a dutiful zealots, seeking to please God in the supposed way if his fathers, remember) to christian if God still look favourably to that Judaism?
I will continue by introducing to you one other moses from the 12 century ad that has influenced to a very large extent the modern day Judaism; Moses Maimonides writes: “Can there be a greater stumbling block than [Christianity]? All the prophets spoke of the Messiah as the redeemer of Israel and its savior . . . [By contrast, Christianity] caused the Jews to be slain by the sword, their remnants to be scattered and humbled, the Torah to be altered, and the majority of the world to err and serve a god other than the Lord.”​—Mishneh Torah, “The Laws of Kings and Their Wars,” chapter 11. This man thinks christianity is actually something causing harm to Judaism. Some jews blame and hate Christians for the holocaust.
I know this things because I take time to study and make researches myself like the Beroens. I don't just take what some daddy G.Os or church founders says. Go and study too.
You also mentioned the samaritan woman, good! Jesus explicitly told her that no one will need to go to some mountains or temple (in consequence, no one have to be a jew. Because that woman was saying the jews discriminates against them) to offer God an acceptable service, but one that must worship God must worship him in spirit and in truth.
There can't be 2 Israel of God or 2 Jerusalems. Jesus is the only way. He is the heir of David, hence he is the King of this new Israel of God and Jerusalem. Everybody can join this Israel, even the people now in Palestine.
Study my brother, study! And be courageous to change and uproot old but wrong beliefs. Let all men even GOs be found a liar but God true. I hope you will be humble and responsible enough to read this through and respond. I have only responded to you by the bible. The one authority over our shared faith.

MangekyoAlt:
according to aljazeera, the Palestinian president called for the AU to revoke isreals observer status.

Moments later, Buhari visited the same Palestinian president

Abeg what did buhari go there to discus with this man?

Righteousness2:
These are the End of Endtimes and GOD is making Israel the Center of World politics because HE wants Deal with the Nations and make them understand that the GOD OF ISRAEL is the one that Runs the earth.

It will be very Foolish of African leaders to put themselves in any form against Israel because of some disgruntled elements.

You Grant Isreal Observer status or Not is Irrelevant.

Israel is a special Nation that the whole Earth will bow and Submit to. You like it or you don't is irrelevant.
Israel is GOD ALMIGHTY Personal project! She is a Covenant Nation. It is through Isreal that all the Nations in the world are Blessed.
Putting yourself against them in the name of this or that is putting yourself against GOD ALMIGHTY. It is Disaters and Disatrous!

By the time GOD is through with Nations, those alive will run and Embrace the GOD of Israel

An average black man is brainwashed to stupor, isreal does not give a shit about you or any Nigerian, if you go to isreal isreali will not hesitate to treat you like slave or black shit. The rest of the world thinks an average black man is below them, yet we sing there praises. This rubbish you just type about isreal, you will never hear an isreali give same compliment to you or Nigeria. Why Because we don't have self worth, we prefer to lick other countries ass in the name of religion isreal, Saudi Arabia, UK.

PaedophileProph:


Taco , Israel didn't nail any Messiah, a Jewess sex slave of mohammed rather poisoned the Paedophile to death - Sahih Bukhari 4428 , if that's the reason mohammed and yourself hated Jews , direct your hatred to Rome/ Italian Government

then who nailed him ?

Wasn't his people that sold him out.


Now back to the allegation of poison,how can u be poison and still be living after that?

The prophet died your years after the poison incident

Even if the prophet was poisoned and died immediately,he won't be only one killed by people cos they (prophets) were human like us not angels or jinn.


Prophet John the Baptist was beheaded according to Bible and that didn't make him less a prophet.



Jesus was nailed naked like a theif according to y'all belief,that is even worst that that of poison.


Prophet Jeremiah was stoned to death.


And so on,so what is your dumb ass trying to prove.


Don't forget this same Jews called Mary a 'LovePeddler' is their Talmud,so Christian man, direct your anger to your Israel master.

owagbeba:


What is divine about Israel? Could you please stop this parody?

No apologies I won't, everything must not acceptable to everyone.

lebron7:

Why do you want Israel to be an observer you religious piece of shit, I'm sure this won't be your stand of it were to be Iran or Saudi Arabia
And what stupid benefit do you think in your head would there possibly be

Atleast, with good diplomatic agreements, you stand a chance of getting greater access to big international financing, transfer of technologies and high grade educational exchanges with the state of Israel. Tell me what we have gotten from your wahabbi wreck called Saudi Arabia for over half a century of interfering in Nigeria and Africas politics? Alshabab, Alqaeda, ISIS and Boko Haram?

Rugaria:

Atleast, with good diplomatic agreements, you stand a chance of getting greater access to big international financing, transfer of technologies and high grade educational exchanges with the state of Israel. Tell me what we have gotten from your wahabbi wreck called Saudi Arabia for over half a century of interfering in Nigeria and Africas politics? Alshabab, Alqaeda, ISIS and Boko Haram?

Lol
So America that supports Nigeria, are they in AU?
Or did the prime minister of Israel tell you that is the condition for them to help us?